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April 28, 2021, 06:06:07 AM
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I just hope that this fight will not end up like the Manny Pacquiao vs Terence Crawford fight. With that one, the main issue was the purse for Pacquaio. He was demanding a guaranteed payment of $40,000,000 but the organizers were offering much less. So what made the difference with this fight? Has Pacquiao agreed for a lower amount, or has the organizers offered him what he wanted? Since the statement came from Arnold Vegafria (Pacquiao's manager), I think this news is closer to reality.
I guess it's because that fight was worth more, compared to this one in their eyes? Hence why Manny agreed, since his price is definitely lower compared to the one with Crawford. I'd agree with the others, a Pacquiao vs Crawford fight seems to be much more interesting and worth much more, but as you said, the organizers for the other side failed in the negotiations hence why it was most likely canceled.

Still, a relatively safe option for the side of Pacquiao. It definitely won't bring as much hype as the Crawford one, but it almost guarantees that Pacquiao has a higher chance of winning than Mikey.

this fight is also unsure yet although this one comes from the person close to the Pacquiao team as Rappler said. if he didn't ask for $40M Crawford would be a good match. he needs $40M else he won't win the presidential race?

there's still covid everywhere even in Dubai so it's really hard to finalize an event where they can get an amount of audience that can pay him $40M these days. Dana White has to mock covid in an attempt to convince people it's okay to watch UFC.









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April 28, 2021, 06:11:34 AM
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Though no official statement from the camp of Pacman but this news is close to reality as it comes from an individual who is close to Manny and that is no other than his business manager Arnold Vegafria.

Many fight fans might be disappointed with this breaking news but this might be the one healthy fight for the Pacman himself as he is not force to bring the best Manny Pacquaio in this fight if push though.

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I am not hearing any news on TV regarding this fight so I definitely have no idea about this. But if this will happen health protocols must be strictly followed. Lot of boxing fans will surely show their support on each of their bets especially if there will be live viewing for limited persons. Of course the health of the boxers is must. They need a healthy body since it is the requirement on the sports that they are playing. Based on my research Dubai is the safest place in the world so I think there will no problem with that.

Source : https://www.arabianbusiness.com/travel-hospitality/460511-dubai-rated-safest-place-in-world-for-business-travellers-new-survey-shows


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April 28, 2021, 10:38:38 AM
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I have not seen this being reported by more mainstream news outlets but it very well could be true. Mikey Garcia was the most obvious choice if the fight with Crawford could not be made.

Yeah, Mikey Garcia's name has been floating for sometime now that Manny will fight. And I think this news has more weight than the Crawford fight. Because if Pacquiao vs Crawford would have to happen, we should have heard a lot of noise already, sadly there's no news outlet at least reporting a positive article about it.

Less money for Pacquiao, but less risk as well. Mikey is also a good gauge for Manny if he still can pull that trigger as Mikey can fight back and he is a good underdog.
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April 28, 2021, 11:01:40 AM
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This seems to be okay, we fans of Manny and Crawford should move on, let's consider this fight as a good one as Mikey Garcia also has a great career in boxing though he is not undefeated. I think this has been rumored already before as I have seen an article discussing this fight.

https://www.oddsshark.com/boxing/pacquiao-vs-garcia-odds-analysis-and-pick

as you can see the betting odds is also interesting.

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April 28, 2021, 11:27:46 AM
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With that odds, I would still take Manny Pacquiao to win this fight, for -120, I need to bet $120 to win $100.. that's okay. However, it's not verified yet until it's already listed in our bookies, and what's more important is the first step which both fighters has to agree,  sign the contract and start training.

No more Crawford vs Pacquiao discussion, that fight is officially off.

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April 28, 2021, 04:55:25 PM
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With that odds, I would still take Manny Pacquiao to win this fight, for -120, I need to bet $120 to win $100.. that's okay. However, it's not verified yet until it's already listed in our bookies, and what's more important is the first step which both fighters has to agree,  sign the contract and start training.
I think we need to see the this announcement to be made public before we can see bookies releasing the odds. But I think Manny will be the favorite here.

No more Crawford vs Pacquiao discussion, that fight is officially off.
Another disappointment but we can't do anything about it but to what if ever this too great fighters will face each other before they retire. It's more of a loss on Crawford's side, financially.

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April 28, 2021, 05:35:43 PM
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With that odds, I would still take Manny Pacquiao to win this fight, for -120, I need to bet $120 to win $100.. that's okay. However, it's not verified yet until it's already listed in our bookies, and what's more important is the first step which both fighters has to agree,  sign the contract and start training.

No more Crawford vs Pacquiao discussion, that fight is officially off.

Definitely, as Manny's fan, regardless if he is the favourite or not, we're going to throw some money on him. Although others may want to see a Crawford fight, this is a good second choice for Pacquiao. He can still make good money out of this fight (and probably help him financially for the next election if he run for the Presidency). So Manny all the way, by decision or by knockout in later rounds.

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April 28, 2021, 05:59:39 PM
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With that odds, I would still take Manny Pacquiao to win this fight, for -120, I need to bet $120 to win $100.. that's okay. However, it's not verified yet until it's already listed in our bookies, and what's more important is the first step which both fighters has to agree,  sign the contract and start training.

No more Crawford vs Pacquiao discussion, that fight is officially off.

Definitely, as Manny's fan, regardless if he is the favourite or not, we're going to throw some money on him. Although others may want to see a Crawford fight, this is a good second choice for Pacquiao. He can still make good money out of this fight (and probably help him financially for the next election if he run for the Presidency). So Manny all the way, by decision or by knockout in later rounds.

As a fan whoever he'll face it's still good enough to see him inside the ring again. Though Crawford's call is highly anticipated but like what you have said, this also generates interest.

And for this upcoming elections he needed lots of fund for his candidacy, might see him aiming for a higher position not sure though if he'll be running for presidency but the point is clear he needs money to funds not just his campaign but also those good works that he continue to give from those in need.

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April 29, 2021, 11:42:13 AM
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With that odds, I would still take Manny Pacquiao to win this fight, for -120, I need to bet $120 to win $100.. that's okay. However, it's not verified yet until it's already listed in our bookies, and what's more important is the first step which both fighters has to agree,  sign the contract and start training.

That is a very attractive odds but unfortunately it would change as fight night approaches depending on how the training of both camp goes and most of the time, the amount of money that we will win would decrease if we are a Pacman bettors.

But no matter how the odds look like, i will be backing the Pacman here.

I expect this match to be officially announced next month, my fearless forecast.

No more Crawford vs Pacquiao discussion, that fight is officially off.

Yup, officially off as what old Bob said.

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Many news that saying Pacquiao will be in the ring again to fight Spence and after a month its saying conor mcgregor will be next opponent.. Who else, Terence Crawford? Nope he don't want $40m to box against the real king of the ring.  Mikey garcia? Seem this is another fake news.  Bob arum actually said that Terence and Pacquiao match will happen also in dubai but its been years still  no results..  I dont believe on this..
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April 29, 2021, 12:31:38 PM
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Many news that saying Pacquiao will be in the ring again to fight Spence and after a month its saying conor mcgregor will be next opponent.. Who else, Terence Crawford? Nope he don't want $40m to box against the real king of the ring.  Mikey garcia? Seem this is another fake news.  Bob arum actually said that Terence and Pacquiao match will happen also in dubai but its been years still  no results..  I dont believe on this..

I understand how you feel, all of this is just speculation and we will only know if it's real once they sign a contract. This is another speculation but probably closer to the Spence vs Manny which was already cool off due to both parties not agreeing with the money. All is about money, no one would fight without getting the fight share as they expect, but Manny here is a superstar, he attracts a crowd so it's expected that he will get the bigger share.

well, it's been a while, we have been speculating a lot, hopefully, this will turn our a real one.

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April 29, 2021, 12:52:14 PM
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Many news that saying Pacquiao will be in the ring again to fight Spence and after a month its saying conor mcgregor will be next opponent.. Who else, Terence Crawford? Nope he don't want $40m to box against the real king of the ring.  Mikey garcia? Seem this is another fake news.  Bob arum actually said that Terence and Pacquiao match will happen also in dubai but its been years still  no results..  I dont believe on this..

I understand how you feel, all of this is just speculation and we will only know if it's real once they sign a contract. This is another speculation but probably closer to the Spence vs Manny which was already cool off due to both parties not agreeing with the money. All is about money, no one would fight without getting the fight share as they expect, but Manny here is a superstar, he attracts a crowd so it's expected that he will get the bigger share.

well, it's been a while, we have been speculating a lot, hopefully, this will turn our a real one.

I also hope a fight deal will finally be sealed soon. Manny has been inactive for almost 2 years already. If this Pacquiao-Garcia talks will not produce an agreement, it will be another round of negotiation with another fighter. It will again take months before something is finalized.

Time is not on Manny's favor. If he really wants to make another fight, he should try to hurry up a little. He's not getting younger anymore. His team should just settle with Garcia. Make this fight happen. Garcia is a fair match with Pacquiao.
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April 29, 2021, 01:16:59 PM
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Many news that saying Pacquiao will be in the ring again to fight Spence and after a month its saying conor mcgregor will be next opponent.. Who else, Terence Crawford? Nope he don't want $40m to box against the real king of the ring.  Mikey garcia? Seem this is another fake news.  Bob arum actually said that Terence and Pacquiao match will happen also in dubai but its been years still  no results..  I dont believe on this..

I understand how you feel, all of this is just speculation and we will only know if it's real once they sign a contract. This is another speculation but probably closer to the Spence vs Manny which was already cool off due to both parties not agreeing with the money. All is about money, no one would fight without getting the fight share as they expect, but Manny here is a superstar, he attracts a crowd so it's expected that he will get the bigger share.

well, it's been a while, we have been speculating a lot, hopefully, this will turn our a real one.

I also hope a fight deal will finally be sealed soon. Manny has been inactive for almost 2 years already. If this Pacquiao-Garcia talks will not produce an agreement, it will be another round of negotiation with another fighter. It will again take months before something is finalized.

Time is not on Manny's favor. If he really wants to make another fight, he should try to hurry up a little. He's not getting younger anymore. His team should just settle with Garcia. Make this fight happen. Garcia is a fair match with Pacquiao.

Not an easy opponent for him but we know he usually come up victorious at the end of the fight. Garcia is also looking for a big fight, so its his chance now to fight the legend and at the same time get a good pay check. I'm wondering what would be individual purse on this fight.

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April 29, 2021, 01:32:38 PM
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Many news that saying Pacquiao will be in the ring again to fight Spence and after a month its saying conor mcgregor will be next opponent.. Who else, Terence Crawford? Nope he don't want $40m to box against the real king of the ring.  Mikey garcia? Seem this is another fake news.  Bob arum actually said that Terence and Pacquiao match will happen also in dubai but its been years still  no results..  I dont believe on this..
Conor lost, that's why the Pacquiao fight was scrapped. So they look for the next big options which is Crawford, unfortunately, the fight was cancelled because of money. Probably ego was too big, no one wanted to move an inch about the money. So now it's Mikey Garcia as the next best option for Pacquiao. Probably getting like 70-30 cut, so it's all good.
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April 29, 2021, 01:37:09 PM
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With that odds, I would still take Manny Pacquiao to win this fight, for -120, I need to bet $120 to win $100.. that's okay. However, it's not verified yet until it's already listed in our bookies, and what's more important is the first step which both fighters has to agree,  sign the contract and start training.

That is a very attractive odds but unfortunately it would change as fight night approaches depending on how the training of both camp goes and most of the time, the amount of money that we will win would decrease if we are a Pacman bettors.

But no matter how the odds look like, i will be backing the Pacman here.

I expect this match to be officially announced next month, my fearless forecast.
Nice to see we have a lot of Pacman supporters here, if he will be the underdog, that would be better as that would result to a bigger payout as a bettor.
It's expected that he is the favorite as Garcia is not a champion, unlike Crawford.


. So now it's Mikey Garcia as the next best option for Pacquiao. Probably getting like 70-30 cut, so it's all good.

That's justifiable given how popular Manny is, therefore Garcia should take that and should not long for a higher purse so this fight will be finanlized soon.

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April 29, 2021, 11:00:06 PM
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I have not seen this being reported by more mainstream news outlets but it very well could be true. Mikey Garcia was the most obvious choice if the fight with Crawford could not be made.
It's just rumors yet but Pacquiao fighting more Latinos again is a good surprise for me, it has been a long time coming since he did something like this. If this happens hopefully we can see a bloodbath.
It's not rumour the one speaking is Pacquiao's business manager, the one that knows the real deal there's a huge possibility that this one will push through although we still need 100% confirmation about the deal, Garcia is a small fighter but can stand toe to toe against Pacquiao, I consider him legit to face Pacquiao, he has a style similar to Juan Manual Marquez, Garcia style will compliment Pacquiao style to come out a very good fight, I hope this fight push through.

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April 29, 2021, 11:43:15 PM
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Many news that saying Pacquiao will be in the ring again to fight Spence and after a month its saying conor mcgregor will be next opponent.. Who else, Terence Crawford? Nope he don't want $40m to box against the real king of the ring.  Mikey garcia? Seem this is another fake news.  Bob arum actually said that Terence and Pacquiao match will happen also in dubai but its been years still  no results..  I dont believe on this..

I understand how you feel, all of this is just speculation and we will only know if it's real once they sign a contract. This is another speculation but probably closer to the Spence vs Manny which was already cool off due to both parties not agreeing with the money. All is about money, no one would fight without getting the fight share as they expect, but Manny here is a superstar, he attracts a crowd so it's expected that he will get the bigger share.

well, it's been a while, we have been speculating a lot, hopefully, this will turn our a real one.

I also hope a fight deal will finally be sealed soon. Manny has been inactive for almost 2 years already. If this Pacquiao-Garcia talks will not produce an agreement, it will be another round of negotiation with another fighter. It will again take months before something is finalized.

Time is not on Manny's favor. If he really wants to make another fight, he should try to hurry up a little. He's not getting younger anymore. His team should just settle with Garcia. Make this fight happen. Garcia is a fair match with Pacquiao.

Since Manny is the A-side in this fight, he can dictate the terms of the fight, and for sure Garcia's camp will be in agreement even if Mikey will just get a small portion of the percentage. But yet, this small percentage could be his biggest payday, so again win-win situation for him and his team.

Probably ironing out small things and then they would announce it. Hope Manny will be the underdog here so that it will give us a good win with small capital. Nevertheless, as I have said, will go with Manny, we just need to bet wisely.  Grin

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April 30, 2021, 07:17:32 AM
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I also hope a fight deal will finally be sealed soon. Manny has been inactive for almost 2 years already. If this Pacquiao-Garcia talks will not produce an agreement, it will be another round of negotiation with another fighter. It will again take months before something is finalized.

Time is not on Manny's favor. If he really wants to make another fight, he should try to hurry up a little. He's not getting younger anymore. His team should just settle with Garcia. Make this fight happen. Garcia is a fair match with Pacquiao.

Time is not on Pacquiao's side right now two years and with a very busy position, it will take a toil to Pacquiao and anyone, if the fight will not push through today, next year there is no way that Pacquiao can fight because it's going to be a busy year for him, but who knows next year he will run for election and he will fight also, and he wins both that will be a big milestone for Pacquiao.

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April 30, 2021, 07:55:17 AM
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I also hope a fight deal will finally be sealed soon. Manny has been inactive for almost 2 years already. If this Pacquiao-Garcia talks will not produce an agreement, it will be another round of negotiation with another fighter. It will again take months before something is finalized.

Time is not on Manny's favor. If he really wants to make another fight, he should try to hurry up a little. He's not getting younger anymore. His team should just settle with Garcia. Make this fight happen. Garcia is a fair match with Pacquiao.

Time is not on Pacquiao's side right now two years and with a very busy position, it will take a toil to Pacquiao and anyone, if the fight will not push through today, next year there is no way that Pacquiao can fight because it's going to be a busy year for him, but who knows next year he will run for election and he will fight also, and he wins both that will be a big milestone for Pacquiao.

Manny might be inactive for almost 2 years, but we all know for sure that he takes care of his health when he is not boxing and probably taking on basketball to keep him fit. Of course, it's a different ball game when he has a scheduled fight, but at least keeping his body fit everyday is a good thing and that it will help him a lot when he is going to fight, like in this case against Mikey Garcia.

So it's no biggie if he is out in 2 years, he already proven himself that he can still train and bang with the young guys trying to get his belt. So this is still doable for Manny and then after the fight goes back to his political career/ambitions.
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April 30, 2021, 09:37:29 AM
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I also hope a fight deal will finally be sealed soon. Manny has been inactive for almost 2 years already. If this Pacquiao-Garcia talks will not produce an agreement, it will be another round of negotiation with another fighter. It will again take months before something is finalized.

Time is not on Manny's favor. If he really wants to make another fight, he should try to hurry up a little. He's not getting younger anymore. His team should just settle with Garcia. Make this fight happen. Garcia is a fair match with Pacquiao.

Time is not on Pacquiao's side right now two years and with a very busy position, it will take a toil to Pacquiao and anyone, if the fight will not push through today, next year there is no way that Pacquiao can fight because it's going to be a busy year for him, but who knows next year he will run for election and he will fight also, and he wins both that will be a big milestone for Pacquiao.

Pacquiao is known for this even if he has a busy schedule still he find a way to his heavy preparation on his fights we already see him became busy especially on election day and he surprise us with his fancy moves and flashy speed, Maybe we can say the time is not on pacquaio by this time but remember his still have solid punch and good posture to fight those young boys in the ring so if this fight will happen maybe we should watch what pacquaio can do since I'm sure he want to prove to the world that he's strong despite of his age.

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