[Table] Withdrawal Fees and Withdrawal Amounts on Crypto Casinos

[Pmalek]

Update:

- I am slowly checking and updating all the casinos in the table. It's still not complete, so there is no need to comment if some of the data and numbers are incorrect.
- Exbet has been removed from the table because they no longer support Bitcoin. They have become an altcoin casino that only accepts USDT over the Ethereum network.

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[Pmalek]

We have just enabled deposits and withdrawals for Bitcoin, BUSD and USDC on the Binance Smart Chain network (BEP20), which means significantly lower fees for all forecasters!!! 

It also means that players aren't withdrawing bitcoin, but a centralized token whose price is currently pegged to BTC. I have added the altcoins you sent to me via PM, and the new withdrawal fee number has also been adjusted.   
Please don't quote my OP in the future. Just make a post or mention my name. Look how unnecessarily big your post is, and it makes the page look ridiculous. In fact, I would appreciate if you could edit the post and remove the quote.

Thanks!

[seoincorporation]

The withdraw fees are a tricky move for some casinos to get some extra money on each withdrawal, I mean, casinos like bethash who change 0.002btc on withdrawal fees don't spend those fees in the transaction, they spend the min and keep the rest for their pockets. I don't like this move at all, it feels like abuse, but is the decision of the users if play on those sites.

[famososMuertos]

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They are old tactics that come as a trick from Fiat casinos.

The same situation are happens the amounts of withdrawals for Fiat Casinos, for example, GG allow minimum deposits of $100 and minimum withdrawals of $1000.

That is why there is no reason for this situation in crypto casinos, unless the user with knowledge of the facts accepts it, but this type of arbitrariness should not be the trend for Crypto casinos.

Fortunately the data collected by OP shows that there is a bit of everything in the options available for the casinos shown.

[Mahdirakib]

and the new withdrawal fee number has also been adjusted.  

Little correction here, they are charging 0.000075 BTC withdrawal fee on BEP20 (Binance Smart Chain) network. The withdrawal fee is still same on the main network of Bitcoin, and it is 0.0004 BTC. Seems like you got confused and updated the BEP20 network withdrawal fee on the table.

Do you have any plan to add dPlay and Club Riches casino in the table. These casinos don't have an ANN thread in the forum, but those are operated by Freebitco.in team. And freebitco PR occasionally gives update about those casinos in Freebitco.in ANN thread.

[Pmalek]

I mean, casinos like bethash who change 0.002btc on withdrawal fees don't spend those fees in the transaction, they spend the min and keep the rest for their pockets.

I seriously doubt they have many players, and not just because of their withdrawal demands. I mean, have you ever heard someone say they gamble on that site or recommend others to do it on this forum?

Little correction here, they are charging 0.000075 BTC withdrawal fee on BEP20 (Binance Smart Chain) network. The withdrawal fee is still same on the main network of Bitcoin, and it is 0.0004 BTC. Seems like you got confused and updated the BEP20 network withdrawal fee on the table.

I guess I made the mistake of trusting the forum representative of this casino who sent me a PM and said they reduced the withdrawal fees 0.000075 BTC. I didn't check myself. Lesson learned and I am never trusting them blindly again. I will check what it says on my end.
Correction: I can't even see anything on my account. I am just going to change it back to what it was before. I am sick and tired of these non-transparent platforms. I keep getting messages that I need to verify my identity. I should remove it altogether. 

Do you have any plan to add dPlay and Club Riches casino in the table.

Never heard of them. I don't plan to add them. I don't really have a good opinion about new casinos anymore.

[Mahdirakib]

Never heard of them. I don't plan to add them. I don't really have a good opinion about new casinos anymore.

Those aren't new casino actually. Club Riches is operating for more than one year and dPlay is almost one and a half years old casino. You haven't heard about these casino as you aren't active in Freebitco ANN thread. dPlay casino is fully connected with Freebitco, and you can transfer your balance between freebitco.in and dPlay casino.

[ryzaadit]

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So, it's under the same management.

I think @Pmalek perspective, he only want to add the most recognize casino in-bitcointalk. At least have some track record experience from the member of this community, I also check the casino you're mentioned (Club Riches & dPlay). They don't have their own bitcointalk thread.

So, it's better to stick put listed the casino only from bitcointalk forum even the casino have some connection with Freebitco. It's just my 2 cent.

[Pmalek]

I think @Pmalek perspective, he only want to add the most recognize casino in-bitcointalk. At least have some track record experience from the member of this community.

Yes, I value the inputs of the community but I also have my own opinions. When I see that a casino is guilty of having scammed a member from the forum, I will remove them no matter if DTs have already tagged them or not. I roam the scam accusations board from time to time. At least two or three casinos were removed from this list based on what I saw in the scam accusations or what other members told me. And one was included in the collection despite having old DT tags after I investigated the issues for myself and concluded that the evidence is either inconclusive or happened a long time ago. There shouldn't, of course, be new issues with the sites.

It's harder to keep track of what is happening it the casinos aren't present and active on this board.

[Pmalek]

Update:

- I have updated the data in the table for all casinos.
- Several crypto casinos added support for new coins and tokens, and I added it to the OP.
- I have removed PlayBetr from the table because they have merged with Betcoin. PlayBetr's old domain now redirects to Betcoin.

As always, if you notice some mistakes, feel free to bring it to my attention.

[Mahdirakib]

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I haven't visited Playbetr for a while. They closed my account there as I had migrated my Playbetr account to my Betcoin.ag account a few months ago. The website was still working when I updated crypto casinos license and KYC information thread (a few weeks ago). I will also remove them from the list.

BTW, you have provided the wrong price tracking link for FoggyStar casino. Their minimum withdrawal amount is 0.000001 BTC, which is equivalent to ~$0.03. But you have provided the price tracking link of 0.0005 BTC.

[Pmalek]

BTW, you have provided the wrong price tracking link for FoggyStar casino. Their minimum withdrawal amount is 0.000001 BTC, which is equivalent to ~$0.03. But you have provided the price tracking link of 0.0005 BTC.

I forgot to change the code after editing the fees. It was probably 0.0005 BTC before they changed it to 0.000001 BTC. Thanks for checking!

With this new update, they would have a place in the Casinos that have the lowest withdrawal amounts list. But since players also have to count in the withdrawal fees, which are dynamic and depend on the current congestion level, I won't add them. The fees aren't as cheap on the BTC network as they were a few months ago.

[Hispo]

You know, I have seen several services and webpages around the web that focus in Mempool analytics, they usually offer some data on the optimal fee users on Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are supposed to use in order to make any transaction to go through the next block without overpaying. Those rates are updated in real time as well.

It would be awesome if casinos which opt to have a fixed withdrawval fees could partner somehow with those websites, to further optimize the withdravals. I am sure many gamblers would appreciate it, specially those who do not gamble much money. 

One of my favorite webs of this sort is bitaps.

[tusandii]

With this new update, they would have a place in the Casinos that have the lowest withdrawal amounts list. But since players also have to count in the withdrawal fees, which are dynamic and depend on the current congestion level, I won't add them. The fees aren't as cheap on the BTC network as they were a few months ago.

With casinos lowering withdrawal fees can make gamblers save more on budgets for each transaction made, but usually when making withdrawals at low enough fees it will affect the withdrawal process which takes longer than usual.
If we pay attention, the fees will be more expensive when BTC experiences a significant increase in price and vice versa if BTC experiences a decrease, the cost of each transaction will also be cheaper, I have found this several times at the casinos that I use.
For now I prefer to use USDT in every transaction because it has very low fees and the process is quite fast.

[ralle14]

While checking some of the sites in the list I noticed that 777coin has been offline for several months now and is probably good enough to be removed from the table.

And I would like to ask if Punt is old enough to be added to the table, if so then their minimum withdrawal is around .0002 while the fee is around .00007 exactly like Stake and Primedice.

[Pmalek]

While checking some of the sites in the list I noticed that 777coin has been offline for several months now and is probably good enough to be removed from the table.

I remember seeing an error when I wanted to check it but I didn't pay attention to the date the original message was posted. After a second look, it seems it's been dead since July or August 2022. Lightlord has also not visited the forum since October. I would say they are 99% history, but just for the sake of that 1% and the fact that lightlord has had such episodes of disappearing and coming back, I will leave it in the table for the time being. If there is no update the next time I check, I will remove 777coin.
 

And I would like to ask if Punt is old enough to be added to the table...

They have been on Bitcointalk since August 2022, so yeah. I hope I will remember to take a look at them the next time I decide to add some new casinos.

[Coin_trader]

@Pmalek, Fairly already decreased their withdrawal fee to 0.00025BTC in contrary to current 0.001BTC fee listed on the table. This was pointed out to me by @SFR10 on our translated version of this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5449025.msg62147892#msg62147892.

I already verified it on their withdrawal fees table

[Pmalek]

@Pmalek, Fairly already decreased their withdrawal fee to 0.00025BTC in contrary to current 0.001BTC fee listed on the table.

Thanks for the info.

The table shows 0.0005 BTC for the withdrawal fees. The 0.001 BTC you mentioned is the minimum withdrawal amount.
Fairlay is actually one of the casinos where my dummy betting account no longer works. My guess is that they delete or ban players who have never played or had any activity on the casino. A password reset doesn't work either. It's like my account never existed.

Are you sure 0.00025 BTC is the correct fee for accounts of the lowest level? I am asking because your screenshot mentions 'VIP Reduction Level 0' (whatever that means). Could that be the withdrawal fee for an older account that has moved up in some internal ranking system?

[Coin_trader]

VIP Reduction Level 0' (whatever that means). Could that be the withdrawal fee for an older account that has moved up in some internal ranking system?

I’m sure about it, VIP lvl 0 is the standard VIP level when the account is newly registered. The fee reduced whenever the player increased their VIP level as perks on it.

This is the withdrawal fee for VIP level 5+ as reference for their decreasing withdrawal fee per VIP level.



Important note: Fairlay registration is temporarily not available based on the last update of the support on the chat box.

Our registration is currently disabled. We are working on the new version of the site, and once it's released you will be able to apply to be accepted.

[Pmalek]

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OK, I made the necessary corrections in the table.
Since you have an account there and I don't, maybe you can check one more thing? The supported altcoins for withdrawals. According to the info I have from when my account was still working, Fairlay supports Litecoin, Dash, and Bitcoin Cash. Have they added some more alternative coins in the meantime?