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April 29, 2021, 04:50:49 PM |
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It's a surprise that you've grown that starting capital of yours into a hefty amount of money. You've just learned it and you have nothing against the casino because you're aware of what has happened. Sometimes, we need to read the TOS in the casino, especially if we want to try on the casino to know if that site is good.
Basically, it's a must when you're about to gamble to a newer casino or to a casino that you want to find out so that you're aware of their rules and, you'll not face any problem during your lucky days.
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April 29, 2021, 05:01:10 PM |
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I decided to try out a new RTG casino and take them up on their first deposit bonus about 400% match no max cashout. I deposited 100$ worth of bitcoin and received the match and started playing $10 spins. After sometime I was up to about 4k and easily finished the 45% playthrough. Ive never done something so stupid i didnt read the terms and conditions that said I cant place bets over $10 and the rules still appy after playthrough is finished and well i kept playing until i was up to about 20k and decided it was time to withdraw and got this message instead of my money ....totally my fault for not reading the terms
This sounds like intentional manipulation by the casino, if you are telling the truth then you should name and shame them. It is very unrealistic for anyone to turn $100, to $4k to $20k based on unskilled random number games across such a long stretch of play. Either a) The games were intentionally set up to allow over-betting, at which point they would use that as an excuse to prevent any kind of withdrawals. b) the Casino is set up in such an incompetent way that it would be leaking money and be unable to survive for more than a few days if word got out. I've never heard of such win ratios on slots, so something seems very fishy about this whole scenario. One key lesson to take from this, if anything, is that you should very carefully read the terms of any betting offer that you have used during registration - as they often set unrealistic targets that only benefit the casino.
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April 29, 2021, 05:52:12 PM |
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You've made a grand total of six posts having started three separate threads and name two and imply there is a third Casino that has ripped you off...
Isn't it time you stepped away from the computer and admit you have a gambling addiction? The very fact you time and time again register, gamble, win (and who deposits $100 then gambles $10 at a time? - That's just ten rolls all up - you couldn't be that lucky!) then are unable to withdraw your winnings means what? You're an idiot for not reading the fine lines when registering?
Proof, or, it never happened.
This is also a part of what I've thought.. the OP seems to be too much onto gambling. Regardless of how his posts is seemed to be true (obviously made with long explanations and stories), his stories still isn't valid. Almost all of the gamblers who've experienced using multiple platforms always reads the t&cs first considering that the OP tried so many platforms with his recent posts. Also, I hate to say this but I guess his stories are somehow an implicit way to promote a platform that is very unknown to us... still sus.
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April 29, 2021, 06:10:25 PM |
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I'm sorry to hear about what happened to you, Op. That's actually the importance of reading the terms and conditions beforehand so you'll know how to get rid of the possible violations that you might commit. Each casino site has its own rules and they aren't uniform so we should be mindful of it. If you're new to the gambling world, it's normal for you to encounter situations like this but take it as a lesson.
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April 29, 2021, 06:40:45 PM |
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Those violations sounds like the excuses that are made up by insurance companies that does not want to payout claims when something happens to you. I hate these types of casinos that are willing to take your money, but when they have to payout your winnings ..then suddenly they have loads of excuses not to pay. People should read the ToS and spot these types of services and avoid dumping a lot of money into these services. Also, Google this ..." Site name + Scam + complaints" ... you will then get a clear picture of the site..before you deposit. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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April 29, 2021, 06:47:01 PM |
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It really sucks on that way but this would really be a lesson learned for you on not to read up their terms because this would most likely happen if you havent read up on what are the rules for said deposit bonus which it would really be have specific games and max bets for you to use.So you should really be mindful with that because if ever you do win up something big then its sad that you cant just make any withdrawals just because of those rules violated or havent followed at all.
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April 29, 2021, 07:07:32 PM |
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I do like this rtg casino because of the instant withdraws which is unheard of with rtg casinos.
I didnt take this loss very hard, its a huge loss but moved on pretty quick.
I did manage to win from a later deposit but only won $200 extra from a $100 deposit.
After this happened i did some reading of the t and c and it was probably the shortest and easiest to follow so i really fub this up the casino is legit its brango casino.
^ I think you did not have a loss because the casino was voided all your winning and reset it and back your initial deposit. You are pretty lucky because that was the decision of the casino and did not void all your fund since you are violating their TOS. I heard that most casinos did not do this, instead, freezing your fund and possibly did not get it anymore. Nevertheless, as a gambler, we should always read TOS in the site that we use as always or even the FAQ that commonly asks. In that way, we can avoid possible violations in the future since we are aware of them. I hope you will be able to have profit again from your initial deposit that they returned.
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April 29, 2021, 07:16:27 PM |
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I decided to try out a new RTG casino and take them up on their first deposit bonus about 400% match no max cashout. I deposited 100$ worth of bitcoin and received the match and started playing $10 spins. After sometime I was up to about 4k and easily finished the 45% playthrough. Ive never done something so stupid i didnt read the terms and conditions that said I cant place bets over $10 and the rules still appy after playthrough is finished and well i kept playing until i was up to about 20k and decided it was time to withdraw and got this message instead of my money ....totally my fault for not reading the terms
This sounds like intentional manipulation by the casino, if you are telling the truth then you should name and shame them. It is very unrealistic for anyone to turn $100, to $4k to $20k based on unskilled random number games across such a long stretch of play. Either a) The games were intentionally set up to allow over-betting, at which point they would use that as an excuse to prevent any kind of withdrawals. b) the Casino is set up in such an incompetent way that it would be leaking money and be unable to survive for more than a few days if word got out. I've never heard of such win ratios on slots, so something seems very fishy about this whole scenario. One key lesson to take from this, if anything, is that you should very carefully read the terms of any betting offer that you have used during registration - as they often set unrealistic targets that only benefit the casino. If all the terms exists before he decided to take the deposit bonus and play with it then we cant call it as manipulation. Betting limit when we are taking deposit bonus is a common thing in almost all casinos that offers deposit bonuses. As players, we should always read anything related to the thing that we are going to deal with so we can avoid this kind of experience. OP is admitting his mistake of not reading the rules/terms so basically he has no intention to blame the casino or call the casino as fishy/suspicious or even a scam. I believe his main idea of creating this thread is to tell us how important to read terms before taking any bonuses on casinos.
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April 29, 2021, 07:17:30 PM |
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I do like this rtg casino because of the instant withdraws which is unheard of with rtg casinos.
I didnt take this loss very hard, its a huge loss but moved on pretty quick.
I did manage to win from a later deposit but only won $200 extra from a $100 deposit.
After this happened i did some reading of the t and c and it was probably the shortest and easiest to follow so i really fub this up the casino is legit its brango casino.
^ I think you did not have a loss because the casino was voided all your winning and reset it and back your initial deposit. You are pretty lucky because that was the decision of the casino and did not void all your fund since you are violating their TOS. I heard that most casinos did not do this, instead, freezing your fund and possibly did not get it anymore. Nevertheless, as a gambler, we should always read TOS in the site that we use as always or even the FAQ that commonly asks. In that way, we can avoid possible violations in the future since we are aware of them. I hope you will be able to have profit again from your initial deposit that they returned. Most likely this would really happen on where they would be locking the account and the funds inside it without tending to credit out the initial deposit but actually this isnt something a major violation since he hadnt just able to play on what are the games needed or should be played out of the said promotion.Its just a minimal one where its just right for the casino on not to be that strict in terms of holding his initial deposit.Its quite generous that they do pay or credit him back 100% of his deposit and still let him do try once again but already in lined with the proper or exact rules. When you do think up about your winning or simply when you do mind on how you did reach it out then it wont be an assurance that you would be walking into the same path.
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April 29, 2021, 07:24:10 PM |
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This is also a part of what I've thought.. the OP seems to be too much onto gambling. Regardless of how his posts is seemed to be true (obviously made with long explanations and stories), his stories still isn't valid.
Valid or not, we can't hide the fact that it happens too for anybody. It's an awareness. The point of the thread is to be aware of reading TOS, especially in a deposit bonus, promotions or events. There is always a term specifically for the deposit bonus, outside the terms of the usual gambling. I admit I'm tired of reading the whole TOS but not on the deposit and withdrawal part.
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April 29, 2021, 08:13:32 PM |
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What i was hoping for was for them to reset my balance to the amount of when i finished the bonis playthrough approx 4k. They didnt want to compromise and i had a few $15 bets on one game before i finished the playthrough.
It caught me off guard that the rules still applied even after the playthrough was finished. i needed to withdraw to have the rules be dropped .
I've been gambling online since 2016 and since then I've only used bonuses with my deposits a few times. I almost always play with a straight cash only balance no bonus.
A lot of casinos will give you a huge match bonus lile deposit 100 play with a total of 500 the thing is the bonus amount isnt cashable ever so say you eventually finish the playthrough and have a balance of $500 the total amount you will get os only 100$
No max cashout match bonuses the way to go if you really want to try out a match bonus , keep in mind its near impossible to finish the playthrough on these bonuses
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April 29, 2021, 08:22:56 PM |
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What i was hoping for was for them to reset my balance to the amount of when i finished the bonis playthrough approx 4k. They didnt want to compromise and i had a few $15 bets on one game before i finished the playthrough.
I don't think they will grant you that since you still continue the game and take advantage of it. If only you have realized to withdraw after the playthrough, the withdrawal will be granted. I know the feeling of not getting that kind of amount. There is a site here before that offers a welcome bonus and I hit their wagering requirement plus big winnings. Because of greed, I created another account, received the bonus and hit that winning again. Since withdrawals are manual, they detect both accounts are owned by me so no withdrawals at the end but to compensate it (multi accounts are not on their rules) instead of banning my account, they give me a chance to used that bonus again but only for 1 account. And that time, it end up losing without even a thrilling win on the way.
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April 29, 2021, 09:21:19 PM |
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This is also a part of what I've thought.. the OP seems to be too much onto gambling. Regardless of how his posts is seemed to be true (obviously made with long explanations and stories), his stories still isn't valid.
Valid or not, we can't hide the fact that it happens too for anybody. It's an awareness. The point of the thread is to be aware of reading TOS, especially in a deposit bonus, promotions or events. There is always a term specifically for the deposit bonus, outside the terms of the usual gambling. I admit I'm tired of reading the whole TOS but not on the deposit and withdrawal part. it is worth to read the ToS of the gambling site esp if you have considerable amount of deposit money. basically, the OP's thread is to remind gamblers, to give time to read the ToS of the site. each site has their own terms and conditions. so even if you know one particular site, the other site may differ with their rules or requirements. some people will accuse the site of screwing them when their winnings are not released but good thing OP acknowledged his fault on this situation. but for some, they will find a way how to get their winnings to the point of making a scam accusation towards the site.
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April 29, 2021, 09:52:19 PM |
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That's too bad, you've had so many wins and all in vain. But the list of violations is so long, did you not read the terms and conditions like at all? Though most of these violations regard bonuses, one should be careful with that stuff, the casinos won't simply give the money away that easily, there's always some kind of catch, which is why it's extremely important to read what you're dealing with at first.
I guess there 2 important conclusions can be drawn here: 1. Always read ToS 2. Be careful with the bonuses
Hopefully, many of the players already know that. Play safe and don't become an addict.
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April 29, 2021, 10:02:41 PM |
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[snip] I guess there 2 important conclusions can be drawn here: 1. Always read ToS 2. Be careful with the bonuses
Well, additionally not only TOS but also the FAQ --those frequently asked questions are the most important to know before using the site, this must be necessary to read before using the gambling site to avoid possible violating such TOS. Even though not of gambling websites, it is also applicable in all websites that you want to use, reading important details on TOS is worth it to know. However, we should thank the OP for what OP's experienced, perhaps, for now, we know and how to avoid those circumstances ahead and not don't let happen to us.
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April 29, 2021, 10:15:54 PM |
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That's why I hate stupid bonuses. Yeah, most of the casinos make some stupid bonuses with huge bonus deposit but with some insane or stupid wager to be design make you lose on gambling. I rather playing without a bonus at all instance using bonus. There so much we need to do for deposit rules, Just right now read some story there has some limited betting amount I tough we only need to finish wager but without limited bet you are make. Leason learner buddy, no matter how much you complain they win because ToS & Rules. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif)
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April 29, 2021, 10:26:56 PM |
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That's why I hate stupid bonuses. Yeah, most of the casinos make some stupid bonuses with huge bonus deposit but with some insane or stupid wager to be design make you lose on gambling. I rather playing without a bonus at all instance using bonus. There so much we need to do for deposit rules, Just right now read some story there has some limited betting amount I tough we only need to finish wager but without limited bet you are make. Leason learner buddy, no matter how much you complain they win because ToS & Rules. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) Everytime there's a promotion or bonus then thats already an auto ignore for my part because i do really suck on reaching out that wagered requirement and bust all of my balance and based up on my experience i havent managed to make withdrawal since from the beginning and this is why i do really promise to myself on not to deal with these things anymore. I do much prefer on playing directly with my available balance without any strings attached.For OP situation then always read up the rules and its true that you cant do anything but to deal with it since you had gone against with the rules.
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April 29, 2021, 10:29:20 PM |
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This really can be one of the lessons to take every time we are going to play in a game or gambling or casino and whatever the platforms. And this is glad to see that you admitted this fault and can learn what faults that had been done. So, it can make you more careful and also pay more attention before playing. ....totally my fault for not reading the terms Many people may not be kind like this, admitting their faults and then blaming the site because of its own faults. But you did great dude, you can get the point of the faults. As we know, T&C is something very basic and also important to be understood. We must also read the FAQ of the platform before doing some activities there. Sometimes, we have just read the information once we are heading to face trouble. Whereas, the information is already provided in their FAQ. Utilizing any information of the site can minimize us to reduce the careless actions, suspicious activities, winning, and also withdrawal.
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April 29, 2021, 11:06:17 PM |
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I'm sorry to hear about what happened to you, Op. That's actually the importance of reading the terms and conditions beforehand so you'll know how to get rid of the possible violations that you might commit. Each casino site has its own rules and they aren't uniform so we should be mindful of it. If you're new to the gambling world, it's normal for you to encounter situations like this but take it as a lesson.
I understand what does Op went through, and everybody should take this as a reference for future possible errors. Nobody is perfect in the first place, so let's help this guy cope up with the stress that has been happening with him right now. Consider the previous failures as mortal sin, and my advice for him is to avoid ignoring some certain agreement which pertains towards security issues or rules that has been established by online gambling site.
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April 29, 2021, 11:24:49 PM |
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In todays age, I think that most if not all people would actually care to read the terms and conditions of the casino. So many paragraphs that in all honesty, these players don't read the said terms and conditions and just tick the box and continue playing to the site or casino. Play with their hearts content until they realize they won't be able to withdraw the money because of some violations committed by the player.
This is unfortunate but also a good learning experience so that you can avoid this again. Not just in that casino but also on other casino and gambling joints you visit. Online or Offline.
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