[Boxing]: Josh Taylor vs Jose Ramirez - May 22

[Kasabus]

Hopefully, this is a good fight as both are undefeated. I'm not familiar with these boxers, maybe they are not popular yet but since they are undefeated, I guess I'll give them time to watch this fight. Also, it's good that the odds are already out, other matches do not have early odds like this fight. Maybe I'll go with the underdog, good odds for an upset win.

[FinneysTrueVision]

I really look forward to watching this match. It is not very often that we see fights for an undisputed title. The last one was Loma vs. Lopez but there was some controversy because some people didn't consider the Franchise title a real world title.

This will be a really close fight in my opinion. Ramirez's fights tend to be close because he gets hit a lot but he also throws a lot of punches. Taylor had a really close fight with Regis Prograis and I consider Ramirez to be of a similar skill level as Prograis.

[Kemarit]

I really look forward to watching this match. It is not very often that we see fights for an undisputed title. The last one was Loma vs. Lopez but there was some controversy because some people didn't consider the Franchise title a real world title.

This will be a really close fight in my opinion. Ramirez's fights tend to be close because he gets hit a lot but he also throws a lot of punches. Taylor had a really close fight with Regis Prograis and I consider Ramirez to be of a similar skill level as Prograis.

I agree, this is really going to be a close fight, but Taylor might win base on output, and will land the clearer punch that will stood up to the judges scorecard.

So it's going to be war, each one will have it's moments, but I don't see anyone going down because both of this fighters have a tough chin.

[Baofeng]

Here are the undercards:

Jose Enrique Vivas vs Louie Coria
Robeisy Ramirez vs Juan Tapia
Andres Cortes vs Eduardo “Thunder” Garza
Raymond “Danger” Muratalla vs Jose Luis Gallegos
Javier "Milwaukee Made" Martinez vs Calvin Metcalf

These names are obviously not familiar, but maybe in the future we will hear some of them, either becoming a world champion or fighting for the belt.

https://www.boxingscene.com/josh-taylor-vs-jose-ramirez-undercard-information-22--157567

[Baofeng]

Ok after the Nery vs Figueroa fight, we will have another explosive match next week.

Josh Taylor is still the favourite as per betting odds, Figueroa upsets Nery last night, could we see some upset here again?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tonCEVUBEZ4 - Jose Ramirez vs Josh Taylor - 4 Belts, 1 Undisputed Champion | OFFICIAL TRAILER

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk1KqVKdEQQ - Blood, Sweat and Tears: Ramirez vs Taylor Part 1 | FULL EPISODE

[bisdak40]

Ok after the Nery vs Figueroa fight, we will have another explosive match next week.

Josh Taylor is still the favourite as per betting odds, Figueroa upsets Nery last night, could we see some upset here again?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tonCEVUBEZ4 - Jose Ramirez vs Josh Taylor - 4 Belts, 1 Undisputed Champion | OFFICIAL TRAILER

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk1KqVKdEQQ - Blood, Sweat and Tears: Ramirez vs Taylor Part 1 | FULL EPISODE

Another exciting fight is looming this weekend, fight between two undefeated  . After the Nery vs Figueroa fight, fans expect no less than a very explosive fight between the two in this 140 division as it will be for the rare unification of 4 belts.

Some of the options on how to bet, which do you think is the most attractive?

Draw = 16.0                                              Taylor by KO = 4.60
Ramirez by KO = 8.80                                Taylor by decision = 1.84
Ramirez by decision = 4.40

[Yaunfitda]

To be on the safe side, I would say Taylor by decision @1.84.

It seems that this two fighters are going to be very cautious in the beginning and it's more of a chess match more than the Nery vs Figueroa wherein from the first round, they really engage themselves and it's up to their stamina as to who will be the last man standing or you will get a knock out.

So we might see a lot of actions in the 6th round here and then will go to the judges decision in the end.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

I really look forward to watching this match. It is not very often that we see fights for an undisputed title. The last one was Loma vs. Lopez but there was some controversy because some people didn't consider the Franchise title a real world title.

Right, I do hope that this division will have at least a good name to carry the weight class. And probably with this unification, it can have a good cover from the boxing media.

This will be a really close fight in my opinion. Ramirez's fights tend to be close because he gets hit a lot but he also throws a lot of punches. Taylor had a really close fight with Regis Prograis and I consider Ramirez to be of a similar skill level as Prograis.

I would say that Prograis is above Ramirez at certain point, but Taylor beat him already, So he has a blue print to beat a high pressure fighter like Ramirez.

[Twinkledoe]

To be on the safe side, I would say Taylor by decision @1.84.

It seems that this two fighters are going to be very cautious in the beginning and it's more of a chess match more than the Nery vs Figueroa wherein from the first round, they really engage themselves and it's up to their stamina as to who will be the last man standing or you will get a knock out.

So we might see a lot of actions in the 6th round here and then will go to the judges decision in the end.

Yes, Ramirez is the underdog here and sportbooks are favoring Taylor to win. But since both have great records, this will be a good fight to watch and may go the distance. Now, we are seeing more valuable fights. Better than exhibition fights, in my opinion.

[Questat]

So which boxer you guys think will win?

I didn't know the boxers, but I'm interested now.. I love betting as well and I think this fight is between two great boxers so I will put a little for entertainment. That's why I'm asking though...

I check on my bookie and found their odds.

https://www.playbetr.com/sports

[Yaunfitda]

To be on the safe side, I would say Taylor by decision @1.84.

It seems that this two fighters are going to be very cautious in the beginning and it's more of a chess match more than the Nery vs Figueroa wherein from the first round, they really engage themselves and it's up to their stamina as to who will be the last man standing or you will get a knock out.

So we might see a lot of actions in the 6th round here and then will go to the judges decision in the end.

Yes, Ramirez is the underdog here and sportbooks are favoring Taylor to win. But since both have great records, this will be a good fight to watch and may go the distance. Now, we are seeing more valuable fights. Better than exhibition fights, in my opinion.

Yes, this is unification bout, two champions fighting and only one will win.

Forget about those exhibition fights, that's all for the money and most of them are circus fight. This is a real and solid fight in the 140 lbs and we have seen the another great champion from 135 has move up to this weight. So everyone could have an idea as how this division will turn.

[Baofeng]

Here's the weigh in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLman5tbRa0

Josh Taylor - 139.6 lbs
Jose Ramirez - 139.6 lbs

Current odds: (Stake.com)

[FinneysTrueVision]

Josh Taylor got the win but the fight was closer than it needed to be. In the last three rounds he was just trying to run out the clock and that's why the judges gave each fighter 6 rounds. The difference ended up being the knockdowns which took a lot out of Ramirez.

I think his next fight should be Terence Crawford and then win or lose he should go back to 140 to defend his belts against Teofimo Lopez. I don't think Taylor beats Crawford. He takes too much damage and didn't know how to put Ramirez away. Against Lopez it would be very close. Lopez is desperate to become a big star and make that PPV money. They are both trash talkers and I would expect their fight to be explosive.

[bisdak40]

Josh Taylor got the win but the fight was closer than it needed to be. In the last three rounds he was just trying to run out the clock and that's why the judges gave each fighter 6 rounds. The difference ended up being the knockdowns which took a lot out of Ramirez.

I think his next fight should be Terence Crawford and then win or lose he should go back to 140 to defend his belts against Teofimo Lopez. I don't think Taylor beats Crawford. He takes too much damage and didn't know how to put Ramirez away. Against Lopez it would be very close. Lopez is desperate to become a big star and make that PPV money. They are both trash talkers and I would expect their fight to be explosive.

Ramirez got too over confident and thought he could take the punch of Taylor, that's the biggest mistake that cost him the fight.

Ramirez was the hard hitter between the two, it was just Taylor who had the timing or have the lucky punch that knock Ramirez down.

Good fight though and hope that Taylor will meet Crawford in the 147 lbs division to prove his doubters wrong.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Josh Taylor got the win but the fight was closer than it needed to be. In the last three rounds he was just trying to run out the clock and that's why the judges gave each fighter 6 rounds. The difference ended up being the knockdowns which took a lot out of Ramirez.

The knock down was the difference in the fight, it not, we might see a draw, I reckon.

I think his next fight should be Terence Crawford and then win or lose he should go back to 140 to defend his belts against Teofimo Lopez. I don't think Taylor beats Crawford. He takes too much damage and didn't know how to put Ramirez away. Against Lopez it would be very close. Lopez is desperate to become a big star and make that PPV money. They are both trash talkers and I would expect their fight to be explosive.

Davis is also going to conquer this division as he has a scheduled fight with Barrios already. I'm not sure if Crawford will go back to 140 lbs. He is not getting any younger, nothing to proved in this division. He should stick to 147 lbs and fight other champions for paycheck.

[btc_angela]

Josh Taylor got the win but the fight was closer than it needed to be. In the last three rounds he was just trying to run out the clock and that's why the judges gave each fighter 6 rounds. The difference ended up being the knockdowns which took a lot out of Ramirez.

I think his next fight should be Terence Crawford and then win or lose he should go back to 140 to defend his belts against Teofimo Lopez. I don't think Taylor beats Crawford. He takes too much damage and didn't know how to put Ramirez away. Against Lopez it would be very close. Lopez is desperate to become a big star and make that PPV money. They are both trash talkers and I would expect their fight to be explosive.

Ramirez got too over confident and thought he could take the punch of Taylor, that's the biggest mistake that cost him the fight.

Ramirez was the hard hitter between the two, it was just Taylor who had the timing or have the lucky punch that knock Ramirez down.

Good fight though and hope that Taylor will meet Crawford in the 147 lbs division to prove his doubters wrong.

Regardless if it's 140 or 147 lbs, I don't think that Taylor will win against Crawford. Terrence has a very good boxing IQ and just adjust on Taylor style as the fight progresses. Now we have a unified champion at 140 lbs, Taylor almost clean up this division already.

He might need to fight a few more and win and then wait for Tank Davis for his biggest pay check. Fight some mandatories and keep all the belts at least for some time.

[Silberman]

Josh Taylor got the win but the fight was closer than it needed to be. In the last three rounds he was just trying to run out the clock and that's why the judges gave each fighter 6 rounds. The difference ended up being the knockdowns which took a lot out of Ramirez.

Yes the difference were the knockdowns but there were many instances in which I was wondering what Ramirez was thinking, it is true Taylor has a style that can be a little bit dirty at times but boxers have the instructions to always protect themselves no matter what and Ramirez dropped his guard many times expecting the referee to intervene and he received many punches because of it, he even showed his back to Taylor once which was a huge mistake and I think something similar happened with the second knockdown in which both fighters were in a clinch and Ramirez was expecting the referee to intervene just to receive an uppercut from which it took him many rounds to recover.

[Yaunfitda]

Josh Taylor got the win but the fight was closer than it needed to be. In the last three rounds he was just trying to run out the clock and that's why the judges gave each fighter 6 rounds. The difference ended up being the knockdowns which took a lot out of Ramirez.

Yes the difference were the knockdowns but there were many instances in which I was wondering what Ramirez was thinking, it is true Taylor has a style that can be a little bit dirty at times but boxers have the instructions to always protect themselves no matter what and Ramirez dropped his guard many times expecting the referee to intervene and he received many punches because of it, he even showed his back to Taylor once which was a huge mistake and I think something similar happened with the second knockdown in which both fighters were in a clinch and Ramirez was expecting the referee to intervene just to receive an uppercut from which it took him many rounds to recover.

Yep, that is the difference here, I think Ramirez steals the last 3 rounds, but wasn't enough to overcome that 2 knock downs on him. That's Taylor style though, clinch and then throwing rabbit punches, good though that the referee did call it out. I like though the left hand punches, was short but it has power. Next for Taylor would probably another easy mandatory.

[Baofeng]

One name has been floating around to be the next boxer that the winner will fight as mandatory - Jack Catterall. So I will assume that it will be Taylor vs Jack Catterall next. However, Josh has many options now, he can remain the undisputed champion, or drop or vacant some belts. Then super fight with Crawford since both are under the top rank banner. Then we have Davis or Teofimo Lopez looming move to 140 lbs as well after the George Kambosos fight. Lopez vs Taylor is also gonna be explosive and can easily be made by Top Rank, all in house money for Bob Arum.

And with that said, I will lock this thread and see you around for the next Josh Taylor find and I do hope that you tail my pick in the beginning of the thread.