What's been happening with you since you DIDN'T take the vaccine?

[BADecker]

I mean, don't know if I ever got sick with Covid. If I did, it barely lasted a day. I'm taking my nutrients, including 40,000 or 50,000 units of vitamin D, at least 3 grams of vitamin C + a little zinc, daily. Plus, I take other nutrients.

I eat well, I mean really well. I don't eat fast foods except for once in a while when I know my system is up to taking that crap.

And I'm in the older-than-65 group.

Plus, I read the Bible daily.

If I went to a doctor, I'm pretty sure he would say that I have one or more medical problems. But since he can't cure them, why go? The placebo effect of just listening to him would be worse than not going at all. After all, his mind is made up. So why listen to him?

Having fun. Exercising regularly. Playing with af-newbie in the forum... should be called newbie-forever. What more could I ask for?

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[Poker Player]

Nothing in my case, although I am not in a risk group. I also take vitamin D but not everything can be cured or prevented naturally and through exercise.

I don't mind going to the doctor and I would listen to him if I suspected I had something serious, although I would consult more than one.

[Jet Cash]

I'm 79 next month, and haven't been vaccinated for over 60 years. I don't take any medication, not even antacids or antibiotics. I think I had a Covid infection about a year ago, but recovered overnight. I son't get colds or 'flu. I don't wear a mask unless required to by law, or id I am using an angle grinder that creates dust.

I eat some hedgerow food such as dandelions and nettles, and I'm going to try burdock roots and leaves soon. This is an ancient vegetable, and seems to help with liver and kidney health. I don't wear glasses either, and I try to maintain a balance of minerals to stay that way.

I'll leave to to you to decide if I am going to allow my immune system to be weakened by 20%+ with a vaccine.

[sirazimuth]

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Plus, I read the Bible daily.

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Ah ... that explains a lot. No wonder you are so smart.....

[Gyfts]

40,000 or 50,000 units of vitamin D

Who in the world told you to take 40k IU's of vitamin D? 5k a day is enough.

[suchmoon]

40,000 or 50,000 units of vitamin D

Who in the world told you to take 40k IU's of vitamin D? 5k a day is enough.

Isn't vitamin D toxic at these levels? I know babies can overdose on it, not sure about adults.

[BADecker]

40,000 or 50,000 units of vitamin D

Who in the world told you to take 40k IU's of vitamin D? 5k a day is enough.

Isn't vitamin D toxic at these levels? I know babies can overdose on it, not sure about adults.

In general it is not toxic at 40 to 50 thousand. But everybody should check with their health professional for their own particular use. Check what the various nutritional sites say on the Internet.

Several times I have taken over 200,000 units at once. I don't make it a daily practice.

[franky1]

and theres the kicker..

he doesnt take it as a daily practice

so thank you badecker. for debunking yourself about your original thoughts that high doses are ok to take daily
make sure you emphasise you dont make it a daily practice and not be so over hyping that high doses are ok for daily practice

as for food.
your body can only do so much. you cannot 'superfood' yourself to immortality.
if your body is damaged you cannot just super food it into self curing in many many cases
if your body is aging.. which is natural. you cannot superfood it into being like an 18yo's body

so yea if you are over 65 and your body has NATURALLY aged where your immune system is not as good as it was. no food or no vitamin will reverse that.

however if your body is suffering due to a bad diet and lack of nutriant. then you can change your diet to a balanced diet of variety and in moderation to reclaim the missing nutrients.
bu this is not something that can reverse aging and turn you into an 18yo again.. even if yo do feel like you want to remarry someone 3x less than your age. sorry but your not going to be 18yo again.
accept it

in short. badeckers body is by his own admission already suffering because even with his so called good diet and his so called exercising regularly... he still overdoses on supplements

seems he has not found the right balance.. or not accepted the reality that natural life means aging and natural aging means your never going to be 18 again..

if after a year and a half of promoting supplements he has not been able to regulate his body to not need supplements.. i think its time he realises that he cannot immortally cure himself.. or he would have by now

[franky1]

as for jetcash and his PRETEND herbal hedgerow diet
(sitting in a cafe while writing his daily posts.. not in a field eating hedge)

there is reasons why over thousands of years farmers did not choose dandelions burdock and nettles to farm enmasse
there is reasons why farmers let animals eat the hedgerow and then humans eat the animals.
heck thre is even biological reasons why animals can tolerate the hedgerow diet more than humans

heck even bread. the effort it took the old wheatflour millers to separate out the parts and only use the white flour .. is for good reason. so yea 'whole meal' / wholewheat' bread is a 20th century advertising campaign to save money on processing..
if it was so easy to digest and tolerate the whole wheat.. 16th-18th century millers would have done it. because it was easier for them.
but they put in the extra effort to just get to the white flour for a reason.. avoid stomach issues

brown bread is not healthier because its not a special breed of wheat that has less gluton. but because its been diluted at the factory by not refining it

take neat vodka. vs vodka infused fruity drinks. they use the same vodka. but then dilute it with fruity flavourings to make the drink have less of a punch thus not need to refine the vokda(filter) because the flavours hide the lack of filtering.
and yet some of these flavours and added sugars can cause more issues than the neat filtered vodka can

nettles and dandelions dont have all the essential nutriants and minerals..
so if your planning on following jetcash's roadside diet. realise that he is taking you down the wrong path.
especially when he is actually sat in a cafe while writing his posts.. but pretending to be in the middle of a field eating hedgerows.

and last year he got sick becasue he bougth near-out-of -date fish at the discount aisle of a supermarket and then didnt have a working fridge to keep it fresh
jetcash's idea's are not about health and wellness.. but about living in poverty by cheapskating everything down to the penny

jetcash does not fear doctors due to health issues. he has admitted that he has a GP that has uptodate records on him.
jetcash's fear is although seeing the doctor is free.. the £1 fuel to get to the doctors is what he fears most.

[Poker Player]

40,000 or 50,000 units of vitamin D

Who in the world told you to take 40k IU's of vitamin D? 5k a day is enough.

Isn't vitamin D toxic at these levels? I know babies can overdose on it, not sure about adults.

Yes it can be toxic. With vitamin D supplements, everyone can potentially overdose, unlike what happens when we sunbathe.

In reality, we should not be talking so much about the amount to be taken, as the blood levels that are reached. In general, it is considered a safe level to have up to 100 ng/ml in the blood, but severe and widespread cases of hypercalcemia start at levels well above that, although there are some cases of people with a level slightly above 100 ng/ml who had several other health conditions and developed hypercalcemia. I have read a lot during the subject for several years, and accordingly I would say:

1) If you take 10,000 IU daily or less, you don't need to get blood work done.
2) If you take between 10,000 and 20,000 IU, I would go once or twice a year for a vitamin D and calcium test. Normally nothing happens with these doses but it is better to be safe.
3) If you take more than 20,000 IU daily, get in the hands of a medical professional.

There are other things that reduce the risk of developing hypercalcemia if you take doses that are considered high according to current guidelines:

1) Take your vitamin D3 with K2. Many supplements have them combined.
2) Drink enough water. 1.5 to 2 liters should be fine.
3) Don't take to much of calcium-rich products, like cheese etc.

Another thing you can do is what I do. In the winter months I take doses of 20,000 IU or sometimes more, in the spring and fall it would be between 10,000 and 20,000 and in the summer I don't usually take vitamin D supplements.

I always take it with K2 and I don't test myself anymore but in the past I did and I know that with this pattern I don't develop any health problems.

[BADecker]

and theres the kicker..

he doesnt take it as a daily practice

so thank you badecker. for debunking yourself about your original thoughts that high doses are ok to take daily
make sure you emphasise you dont make it a daily practice and not be so over hyping that high doses are ok for daily practice

as for food.
your body can only do so much. you cannot 'superfood' yourself to immortality.
if your body is damaged you cannot just super food it into self curing in many many cases
if your body is aging.. which is natural. you cannot superfood it into being like an 18yo's body

so yea if you are over 65 and your body has NATURALLY aged where your immune system is not as good as it was. no food or no vitamin will reverse that.

however if your body is suffering due to a bad diet and lack of nutriant. then you can change your diet to a balanced diet of variety and in moderation to reclaim the missing nutrients.
bu this is not something that can reverse aging and turn you into an 18yo again.. even if yo do feel like you want to remarry someone 3x less than your age. sorry but your not going to be 18yo again.
accept it

in short. badeckers body is by his own admission already suffering because even with his so called good diet and his so called exercising regularly... he still overdoses on supplements

seems he has not found the right balance.. or not accepted the reality that natural life means aging and natural aging means your never going to be 18 again..

if after a year and a half of promoting supplements he has not been able to regulate his body to not need supplements.. i think its time he realises that he cannot immortally cure himself.. or he would have by now

Since there is some evidence that 200,000 units per day might become toxic, why would anybody want to take that much daily? Nobody needs that much, except under certain kinds of stress. You (franky1) seem to always be dimwitted enough to focus on the wrong thing. You really like making a fool out of yourself, right?

As far as living forever because of good nutrition... there is so extremely much we don't know about the way to do that, that nobody can predict the best nutrition to follow. However, there are a few people who became so extremely healthy from following Dr. Max Gerson's diets in his book, "A Cancer Therapy - the Results of Fifty Cases," that their bodies did an amazing thing.

One woman wrote that after a while following the Gerson diet strictly, she noticed all these pink spots at different locations all over her body. What in the world? Then she realized that her body was replacing scar tissue with real tissue. Her body was healing itself as completely as can be done with nutrition alone.

The reason why nutrition doesn't allow one to live 200 or 300 years is, that kind of living comes from spiritual and energy health combined with nutrition. Chemtrails, pollution, electrical energy, and a host of other man-made things over the developed countries don't allow for that kind of health to happen. Maybe the whole world is blocked from there being a place to get truly healthy any longer.

Medicine is making things worse in most cases.

[Gyfts]

40,000 or 50,000 units of vitamin D

Who in the world told you to take 40k IU's of vitamin D? 5k a day is enough.

Isn't vitamin D toxic at these levels? I know babies can overdose on it, not sure about adults.

In general it is not toxic at 40 to 50 thousand. But everybody should check with their health professional for their own particular use. Check what the various nutritional sites say on the Internet.

Several times I have taken over 200,000 units at once. I don't make it a daily practice.

Even at 50k daily there is a chance that it might be toxic. 50k every now and then is an overkill, 50k a day is probably toxic. You really don't need that much and I don't know why any doctor would advise their patient to take that much. 1k-5k IU's is more than enough if you're vitamin D deficient (daily). Some people get IV's done but vitamin D pills are more convenient and cheaper. I can't imagine how many pills you would be consuming when you consume 200k worth...

[BADecker]

In general it is not toxic at 40 to 50 thousand. But everybody should check with their health professional for their own particular use. Check what the various nutritional sites say on the Internet.

Several times I have taken over 200,000 units at once. I don't make it a daily practice.

Even at 50k daily there is a chance that it might be toxic. 50k every now and then is an overkill, 50k a day is probably toxic. You really don't need that much and I don't know why any doctor would advise their patient to take that much. 1k-5k IU's is more than enough if you're vitamin D deficient (daily). Some people get IV's done but vitamin D pills are more convenient and cheaper. I can't imagine how many pills you would be consuming when you consume 200k worth...

Doctors don't really have anything to do with it, since their nutritional supplementation training is only about one or two hours out of their whole medical schooling. And then, the training is wrong!

[Poker Player]

Even at 50k daily there is a chance that it might be toxic.

I agree. 50k daily over the long them would make an average person, say middle-aged, thin or slightly overweight and with no vitamin D absorption problems, clearly exceed 100 ng/ml. I would never recommend taking those doses without a doctor's supervision. Doctor Coimbra for example, uses high doses like that to treat autoimmune diseases:

Coimbra Protocol

1k-5k IU's is more than enough if you're vitamin D deficient (daily).

Yeah, well, it's more than enough if your target level is at least 30 ng/ml, which is too low in my opinion. If your target level is something like 60-80 ng/ml, a level not considered toxic by any standards, something like 5k-10k would be better for the average person.

[BADecker]

What's been happening with you since you DIDN'T take the vaccine?


Well, I'm not as run down as I was before. 

[Ebede]

Nothing in my case, although I am not in a risk group. I also take vitamin D but not everything can be cured or prevented naturally and through exercise.

I don't mind going to the doctor and I would listen to him if I suspected I had something serious, although I would consult more than one.

I think in life after God it's Doctors, because going to hospital for proper checkup for human health status than taking food molecules that is not directed by doctor, i know that is good to take vitamin most especially food that contains minerals, but all things if somebody stop taking this, so it can lead to early grave or it will lead to easy contamination of any virus?

[Cnut237]

40,000 or 50,000 units of vitamin D

Who in the world told you to take 40k IU's of vitamin D? 5k a day is enough.

Isn't vitamin D toxic at these levels? I know babies can overdose on it, not sure about adults.

We can add this to this list of concerns for BADecker's health. It probably comes in at number two. Miracle Mineral Supplement is I think still top.

[TeddyBear84]

I got covid twice. Both times it was as easy as the flu. But I know people who died from covid

[BADecker]

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Plus, I read the Bible daily.

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Ah ... that explains a lot. No wonder you are so smart.....

We are just now, finding all the 'other' things that the Bible talks about... besides living a good life, and faith in Jesus for salvation from death.

Never before in history has God been revealed to people as He is being revealed within just these last several years. Be a little bit afraid... enough to start looking for the answers yourself. Why? Because, never before has there been round-the-world transportation and communication like there is today. Never before have people become so strong that they fly to the moon and send their communications even outside of the solar system. Things are different, now, than they have ever been.

Matthew 24:36-44:

36“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, f but only the Father. 37As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.

42“Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.

[dongyi17]

well I haven't taken the vaccine yet but what I've seen from those who got vaccinated, they seems to be okayed except for those who are already having a present cases or illness which make them susceptible to the effect of the vaccine, but if you knew you are healthy and nothing is wrong in you I think its best to leave it that way no need to be vaccinated.