⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ COPA America ⚽ Prediction Pool Discussion Thread

[Trofo]

Copa America is starting on 13th June, so about a month for now, actually same day EURO starts. There was some interest about having prediction pool for this competition and I decided to start it. It will be organized same as previous pools run by me so if you were a part of La Liga pool or Serie A pool you know how it works. No need to read further just participate! For new comers go check those pools to see how much fun they are, and how big rewards we are dishing out thanks to BTC price action.

COPA is played in two groups, one in Argentina and one in Colombia, final games will be played in Colombia. 4 teams are progressing from each group so I am expecting a lot of strange results in group stage. Home teams should do well since first 2 teams from each group get to stay in the country while 3rd and 4th are having to move camps.

Sporsbet Sponsorship:
Big thanks to Sportsbet for sponsoring our pool this year, the deal includes:
1. 20 mBTC boost to our pot (over 700$ at the moment)
2. 0.5 mBTC free bet on sportsbet.io for every participant (you have to let me know your sportsbet username and have account on sportsbet to collect)
3. Free bets for our weekly competitions, only for participants of the pool. More on this to come when the tournament starts.

How this pool works
For prediction we will use Superbru page and we will have complementary discussion topic here on the forum for participants only. Superbru has been around for years and they are very good at providing custom pools for all kinds of sports. The idea of the game is to predict correct scores from all the games which gives you max points (3). If you get outcome correct but not the score there is still some points awarded (1-1.5). The winner is the person with most points at the end of the season.

Buy in and prizes
Buy in for the pool is 1 mBTC = 0.001 BTC or little more than 35$ at the moment. A little bit more then usual but more then worth it since you get 0.5 mBTC free bet just for participating.
BTC address to send the funds:
1PUknW57jM21p5WnLCWqFcZw7n1QUUBK63

I will decide on prizes after we know final number of participants but it will be something like:
1. 55% of the pot
2. 30% of the pot
3. 15% of the pot


Paid Participants

Bitcointalk name	|	Superbru name	|	Favorite team
________________	|	________________	|	________________
morvillz7z	|	Hoody Hoo	|	Uruguay
casperBGD	|	casperBGD	|	Uruguay
tomahawk9	|	tomahawk9	|	Uruguay
LTU_btc	|	LTU_btc	|	Uruguay
DIA7	|	DIA7	|	xxxxxx
Harkorede	|	Harkorede	|	Argentina
icopress	|	icopress	|	Brazil
hahay	|	hahay	|	Brazil
vd309	|	MoSala	|	Argentina
Trofo	|	Trofo	|	Brazil
buwaytress	|	Sojourner	|	xxxxxx
cryptofrka	|	cryptofrka	|	Argentina
LFC_Bitcoin	|	LFC_Bitcoin	|	xxxxxx
darxiaomi	|	darbit	|	xxxxxx
jeremypwr	|	PLGuru	|	xxxxxx
Swordsoffreedom	|	SwordsRex	|	xxxxxx

[casperBGD]

could not say that I am thrilled to participate in the pool, but you can count me in if there is at least 10 participants (or nine + me) - presume that you will not organize this one at all without 10 participants, or we could play just for fun in that case

how do you plan to follow scores, did not saw Copa America on Superbru?

[Trofo]

could not say that I am thrilled to participate in the pool, but you can count me in if there is at least 10 participants (or nine + me) - presume that you will not organize this one at all without 10 participants, or we could play just for fun in that case

how do you plan to follow scores, did not saw Copa America on Superbru?

Let's make it to that 10 participants and then we are fine. I would hate it if I had to drop it after securing sponsorship
It is already 3 of us and I expect at least a couple more regulars to join us.

Superbru usually adds stuff about a week before it starts. I am 99.9% sure it will be there. If not we will find some other solution. It was on Superbru last few editions and Superbru is just adding tournaments not removing them.

[morvillz7z]

You can count me in! I might need to secure another monitor or tv, i think we will have matches from Euro overlapping with the some of early Copa America matches, 24 hours of football for about a month. Bring it! 

I'm okay with whatever the entry fee is, hopefully, we get at least 10 to join.

Superbru usually adds stuff about a week before it starts. I am 99.9% sure it will be there. If not we will find some other solution. It was on Superbru last few editions and Superbru is just adding tournaments not removing them.

I took the courtesy to DM them on Twitter and ask them if they are going to have a predictor game for 2021 Copa America, this was their response:

That's the plan! Should be live in the next week or so if we do put something together.

[buwaytress]

Made some good calls in last one and yeah, anything to fill ke in while wallowing in the misery of pre season so count me in.

Suarez and Messi probably still going to give this a go. Uruguay gave quite good value in qualifications maybe a nice outright. Chile probably a decent run. But let's see what the bookies think.

[Harkorede]

I think I participated in the last Copa America pool, but I'm definitely in on this either, It's always terrible for me though, as I'll always back Argentina to go all the way and every time it's just the same old story 😏

Since all leagues will be over, 10 participants should be an easy reach, I suppose.

[tomahawk9]

I'm in!

Copa America 2019 had 10 participants, but the gambling board had a big boost in number of users and predicition pool participants in the last couple of years so hopefully we'll get more than 10+ players 👍

[Trofo]

but the gambling board had a big boost in number of users and predicition pool participants in the last couple of years so hopefully we'll get more than 10+ players 👍

I am expecting about the same as for Serie A and La Liga, maybe we get to 15 players. If we get to 20 I'll be really surprised. If somebody likes to join and buy in is too steep for you, let me know and maybe I'll lower it a bit. I would prefer to have as much as possible participants.

I am going to invite the Gosu gang, just thought of that

[hahay]

Count me in.

[LTU_btc]

Great to see many familiar faces . We have 8 players already in less than day - not bad, right?
This year because of Covid there won't be guest teams. But anyway, it was a bit strange to see Japan or Qatar playing in Copa America.

You can count me in! I might need to secure another monitor or tv, i think we will have matches from Euro overlapping with the some of early Copa America matches, 24 hours of football for about a month. Bring it! 

I haven't looked at schedule, but I think that games won't overlap - most Copa America games will start deep in night. Maybe only on weekends there may be some earlier games, but I think schedule is made trying not to conflict with EURO.
Football all day, all night - what can be better?

[morvillz7z]

I haven't looked at schedule, but I think that games won't overlap - most Copa America games will start deep in night. Maybe only on weekends there may be some earlier games, but I think schedule is made trying not to conflict with EURO.

You are right there won't be any overlapping at all, my bad in calculating the time difference between Argentina and Europe.  

When we get to the quarterfinals, semifinals, 3/4th place, and the final, how will the scoring work? Will the scores be graded at the end of regular time or the end of extra time? I suppose penalty shootouts are excluded?

Copa America 2019 had 10 participants

So, bigdaddy won in '19...i swear he is either first or second in every goddamn pool, the most complex player that we've got here. 👍

[Harkorede]

When we get to the quarterfinals, semifinals, 3/4th place, and the final, how will the scoring work? Will the scores be graded at the end of regular time or the end of extra time? I suppose penalty shootouts are excluded?

Since it's going to be on SuperBRU, I think it's graded after extra time, just like in the UCL (Juventus vs Porto being the most recent case) and other knockout competitions, however, I don't know if penalty shootouts are included, I doubt they'll be though.

[DIA7]

I will be your number 9 on your list

When we get to the quarterfinals, semifinals, 3/4th place, and the final, how will the scoring work? Will the scores be graded at the end of regular time or the end of extra time? I suppose penalty shootouts are excluded?

Since it's going to be on SuperBRU, I think it's graded after extra time, just like in the UCL (Juventus vs Porto being the most recent case) and other knockout competitions, however, I don't know if penalty shootouts are included, I doubt they'll be though.

yeah I think they exclude extra time and shoot outs from what I remember from UCL is the predictions work for 90minutes that's why you can predict a tie.

[casperBGD]

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So, bigdaddy won in '19...i swear he is either first or second in every goddamn pool, the most complex player that we've got here. 👍

agree, whatever pool I am in, bigdaddy is near the top, congrats

this will be a short one, so everyone will have chances, few good predictions in the beginning and you are close to slam it, there is a total of 28 matches on the tournament
not sure how Superbru will distribute rounds, but I think that we do not need "best yellow cap" competition, only overall

[Harkorede]

yeah I think they exclude extra time and shoot outs from what I remember from UCL is the predictions work for 90minutes that's why you can predict a tie.

No, they do include extra time, the screenshot attached below was from a champions league match this season, they match end at 2-1 in regular time but both team later scored during the extra time. And it was settled as 3-2 in the pool.

https://i.imgur.com/qHlOZm1.jpg

[Trofo]

agree, whatever pool I am in, bigdaddy is near the top, congrats

So you are saying we should not invite bigdaddy to play

yeah I think they exclude extra time and shoot outs from what I remember from UCL is the predictions work for 90minutes that's why you can predict a tie.

No, they do include extra time, the screenshot attached below was from a champions league match this season, they match end at 2-1 in regular time but both team later scored during the extra time. And it was settled as 3-2 in the pool.

They counted extra time and not penalties in the past, but it doesn't really matter, it will be the same for us all and it is written in the rules of the pool. I'll include that in the OP once the pool is live on Superbru.

[casperBGD]

agree, whatever pool I am in, bigdaddy is near the top, congrats

So you are saying we should not invite bigdaddy to play

would it be more interesting on Copa America without Brasil or Argentina, so that Venezuela could take their first title?

no, I am saying that he is Brasil or Argentina, and for us (we could be Peru and Chile, for example) it is a goal to try and beat Brasil or Argentina (bigdaddy)

but, yeah, it is interesting idea to play without him, will be easier to pick some reward

[morvillz7z]

A friendly bump!

It appears that Colombia won't be hosting any matches:

"2021 Copa America: Colombia will not co-host next month's tournament amid ongoing protests in the country"
source:  https://www.skysports.com/football/news/32506/12312411/2021-copa-america-colombia-will-not-co-host-next-months-tournament-amid-ongoing-protests-in-the-country

Colombia will not co-host next month's Copa America amid ongoing protests in the country, the South American Football Confederation (CONMEBOL) has announced.

The decision was made less than a month before the opening match is due to take place as street protests were held against Colombian president Ivan Duque.

The tournament, which is set to played between June 13 and July 10, would have been the first Copa America to be hosted by two countries with Argentina the other scheduled host.

Apart from that^, the Copa America predictor is now available at Superbru.

[Trofo]

Apart from that^, the Copa America predictor is now available at Superbru.

Great, I'll make our pool and start collecting money as soon as I dish out the rewards for La Liga and Serie A. Provided that we have at least 10 players, less then that and it does not really make much sense. I'll send a couple of PMs during the weekend as well.

Still waiting for confirmation from sponsor so I hope all 3 "obstacles" will be ironed out during next week.

[icopress]

I'm with you ... and while I await the launch of the new season of the Premier League predictions, this is a great idea for me to pass the time!

So maybe later I will ask a few more questions that interest me.

I am going to invite the Gosu gang, just thought of that

Hmm, another gang ... I'm just wondering who's in it.