⚽ Sportsbet.io ⚽ COPA America ⚽ Prediction Pool Discussion Thread

[casperBGD]

Brazil set their place in the final, according to statistics, match was not that bad, although just one goal in the end (haven't watch it)

now, more interesting duel between Argentina and Colombia, my bet is with Colombia, both teams played some mixed football during the competition that was highly "just for fun" up to QF, and Colombia kicked-out Uruguay, in a match that is similar to "what to expect tonight", and there is more value in x2, than Argentina to win

[buwaytress]

Brazil set their place in the final, according to statistics, match was not that bad, although just one goal in the end (haven't watch it)

now, more interesting duel between Argentina and Colombia, my bet is with Colombia, both teams played some mixed football during the competition that was highly "just for fun" up to QF, and Colombia kicked-out Uruguay, in a match that is similar to "what to expect tonight", and there is more value in x2, than Argentina to win

The only bet I was considering (other than my failed Peru upset) was a Brazil win to nil and Neymar to score but the odds were ridiculously low (4/1 with a boost). Glad I didn't take it. Copa is tight af it looks but I guess we will see the Brazil/Argentina dream match up... unless I just jinxed Argentina by saying that;)

Colombia was my pre-tourney pick though, would be cool if they got through too.

Value bet here is agreed. Colombia ML or Argentina -1.5 (haha).

[icopress]

The only bet I was considering (other than my failed Peru upset) was a Brazil win to nil and Neymar to score but the odds were ridiculously low (4/1 with a boost).

I join ... despite the fact that Neymar still scored a couple of three goals in this tournament, the chances that he will score the first goal were really not promising. By the way, does anyone know about the Superbu ranking process? I see that one guy bypassed me, but at the same time he has the same number of points as me. I mean, in the event of a tie, how will the winner be determined?, (I remember Trofo mentioned this but I can't find this post).

[buwaytress]

The only bet I was considering (other than my failed Peru upset) was a Brazil win to nil and Neymar to score but the odds were ridiculously low (4/1 with a boost).

I join ... despite the fact that Neymar still scored a couple of three goals in this tournament, the chances that he will score the first goal were really not promising. By the way, does anyone know about the Superbu ranking process? I see that one guy bypassed me, but at the same time he has the same number of points as me. I mean, in the event of a tie, how will the winner be determined?, (I remember Trofo mentioned this but I can't find this post).

One of the most common questions about SuperBru, and don't worry, easy to find. In any pool, just click on leaderboard and scroll all the way to the bottom, the rules for each specific pool is there (they're generally the same).

In summary, you go head 2 head and rank first on: # correct outcomes, then exact, then close. As I've mentioned before, this system actually doesn't reward exacts, so I should bloody well learn to side with expected outcomes=)

[icopress]

One of the most common questions about SuperBru, and don't worry [...]

Thank you, you reassured me ... in any case, Argentina will play today with a margin of two goals and I will finally stop worrying.

Interesting fact: I am the last in the Euro pool, but I am the first in the COPA America pool.

[...] so I should bloody well learn to side with expected outcomes=)

It seems to me that a bet in favor of the expected result makes sense only at the final stage of the tournament, since if you enter the prize pool you only need to hold your position, (it makes sense to resort to ambiguous forecasts only at the group stage).

[Trofo]

I mean, in the event of a tie, how will the winner be determined?, (I remember Trofo mentioned this but I can't find this post).

One of the most common questions about SuperBru, and don't worry, easy to find. In any pool, just click on leaderboard and scroll all the way to the bottom, the rules for each specific pool is there (they're generally the same).

In summary, you go head 2 head and rank first on: # correct outcomes, then exact, then close. As I've mentioned before, this system actually doesn't reward exacts, so I should bloody well learn to side with expected outcomes=)

No sharing of the prizes*. I just award prizes as per Superbru ranking. There are some tie breakers implemented and buwaytress told you how to check them, but that is why we are using Spuperbru so that I don't have to check all that stuff

This time tie breakers are actually more important then ever since there are a lot of us inside couple of points. As usual, let the luckiest bastard win  

*Prize will be shared only if players are tied for the rank after all tie breakers are implemented. That is shown on Superbru as
1.xxxxx
   yyyy
3.zzzzz

If prizes were paid right now there would be no sharing of the prizes.

[casperBGD]

Colombia had their chances, could even say were better on the pitch, but Argentina booked the ticket for final with Brazil, on a penalty shot-out
it is hard to win it two times in a row, so Colombia used their card with Uruguay

nevertheless, value bet proved to be good, and match came as a draw

Brazil and Argentina in the final, I do not have preference for the winner

[Altryist]

Colombia had their chances, could even say were better on the pitch, but Argentina booked the ticket for final with Brazil, on a penalty shot-out
it is hard to win it two times in a row, so Colombia used their card with Uruguay

nevertheless, value bet proved to be good, and match came as a draw

Brazil and Argentina in the final, I do not have preference for the winner

Nevertheless we will see in the final of the classic confrontation between Brazil and Argentina. Perhaps this is the best option that could happen, it will attract the attention of a large number of people. In this final I see the perk of Brazil, although both teams are of a very high level and each equally deserves to win.

[Trofo]

Brazil and Argentina in the final, I do not have preference for the winner

Only final that could have happened. Both Brazil and Argentina showed their quality from the beginning while other favourites like Uruguay played poor. Colombia was ok but they missed so many chances during this competition, a bit strange with the profile of strikers they have.

If you guys have some idea for our final competition, please share. Otherwise I will go with something like corners & cards plus maybe some player markets. Definitely nothing that can give hints towards superbru prediction.

[tomahawk9]

another Clasico in a Copa America final. It's gonna be a legendery match, folks. Argentina - Brazil, Messi vs. Neymar, the conmebol couldn't be happier lol

4th final for Messi. Imagine if he wins his first major trophy with the NT against no other than Brazil in Maracana Stadium...Imagine    are they going to allow ppl into the stadiums? anyone knows?

If you guys have some idea for our final competition, please share. Otherwise I will go with something like corners & cards plus maybe some player markets. Definitely nothing that can give hints towards superbru prediction.

couple of suggestions: '1st team to get X number of corners', 'most shots on target, messi or neymar?'. Btw, there will be extra time in the final, do you want to include it in the last competition?

[buwaytress]

^ I've never really paid attention, but maybe one aspect could be teams with most passes completed? I don't know how quickly or easily Copa stats on individuals can be gained but maybe not a good idea if stats-collecting isn't fast.

But if it's common markets, then we should go for HT FT results, Extra Time yes? Penalties yes? That's 4 options easy to say yes/no to.

Bonus can be Penalty Shootout score prediction (if PK happens).
OOOXO
OOOXX

Boring I know but hey.

[Trofo]

1. ^ I've never really paid attention, but maybe one aspect could be teams with most passes completed? I don't know how quickly or easily Copa stats on individuals can be gained but maybe not a good idea if stats-collecting isn't fast.

2. But if it's common markets, then we should go for HT FT results, Extra Time yes? Penalties yes? That's 4 options easy to say yes/no to.

3. Bonus can be Penalty Shootout score prediction (if PK happens).
OOOXO
OOOXX

Boring I know but hey.

Your first 2 ideas are a bust mate  Passes completed is something I am not sure where to check so I am skipping it. I will stick to markets that are easy to check. Your second idea must be avoided since it is a last game and our pool is really close. Every point is important and those choices would give up way too much data to competition

Your third idea looks like fun, I just don't know how to implement it but will think about it and try to include it in some form.

couple of suggestions: '1st team to get X number of corners', 'most shots on target, messi or neymar?'. Btw, there will be extra time in the final, do you want to include it in the last competition?

These are easy to implement so they will be part of competition most likely.


Messi taking a major national trophy on Maracana in Brazil, that would be something for sure and something which will motivate Brazilians even more. Not that they need extra motivation when playing Copa final against Argentina  

[LTU_btc]

4th final for Messi. Imagine if he wins his first major trophy with the NT against no other than Brazil in Maracana Stadium...Imagine    are they going to allow ppl into the stadiums? anyone knows?

I doubt that they will allow spectators to attend game. It's sad because they would make this final even more epic. Imagine Brazil - Argentina in full Maracana.
It's a bit sad that game will be played so late on Sunday - it's not best time for us in Europe. But I think it's not big deal to sacrifice sleep for such game.
Personally, I hope that Messi finally will win trophy with national team. If he will lose again, it would be huge hit for him.

[Trofo]

Hey guys, i have some great news. Sportsbet has allocated me significant boost for the last mini competition. We are talking 10 mBTC cash plus another 10 mBTC free bets. There will be 2 competitions, one as usual and one Argentina flavoured since Steve is a big supporter. I am open to ideas. For now I intend to have 2 or 3 winners per competition. Today is the day for brainstorming and competition will be live tomorrow morning.

@tomahawk9, counting on at least you to give some feedback but hope to hear from the others as well. We have  to be careful to avoid 1x2, under/over goals and correct score markets because of our pool.

Be sure to check the other thread tomorrow.

[casperBGD]

Hey guys, i have some great news. Sportsbet has allocated me significant boost for the last mini competition. We are talking 10 mBTC cash plus another 10 mBTC free bets. There will be 2 competitions, one as usual and one Argentina flavoured since Steve is a big supporter. I am open to ideas. For now I intend to have 2 or 3 winners per competition. Today is the day for brainstorming and competition will be live tomorrow morning.

@tomahawk9, counting on at least you to give some feedback but hope to hear from the others as well. We have  to be careful to avoid 1x2, under/over goals and correct score markets because of our pool.

Be sure to check the other thread tomorrow.

great news, would like to suggest a few competitions, that are more "roulette"
for example - kick-off (coin-toss winner), first shot on target, first shot off-target, first card, first corner, first substitution, or regarding players - Fabinho to start the match, Di Maria to start the match

some of these are easy to check, and could be interesting
I am on the bottom in the pool, and do not have preference between Brazil and Argentina, so not that much interested in final score, just good football

[buwaytress]

Colombia 19/10 a good pick tonight? Could be 2/1 with a boost later on? Or am I just fantasising. 3rd placed games usually very exciting, at least in my memory. Nothing to lose left =)

Another suggestion that could be used:
1st to get yellow card
1st to get corner
1st to use sub
1st to offside
Last to offisde
Last to use sub
Last to get yellow card
Last to get corner

Or, make it a race: 1st to 3 corners, 2 yellow, 2 subs, 2 offsides.

With a tiebreaker of pick minute of 1st corner/card?

[darxiaomi]

Hey guys, i have some great news. Sportsbet has allocated me significant boost for the last mini competition. We are talking 10 mBTC cash plus another 10 mBTC free bets. There will be 2 competitions, one as usual and one Argentina flavoured since Steve is a big supporter. I am open to ideas. For now I intend to have 2 or 3 winners per competition. Today is the day for brainstorming and competition will be live tomorrow morning.

@tomahawk9, counting on at least you to give some feedback but hope to hear from the others as well. We have  to be careful to avoid 1x2, under/over goals and correct score markets because of our pool.

Be sure to check the other thread tomorrow.

Amazing news thanks SB and you Trofo!.

I think maybe shots on target for teams? or total shot?
red card in the match or not?

[icopress]

Guys, why don't we go the BetBuilder route? ^[screenshot] The winner is determined by the highest won odds (let's say the bet should consist of at least three of any combinations). I don't think that it is a problem for each of us to place a bet, say, in the amount of 0.02 mBTC ^{[this is the minimum allowed rate]}, especially considering that even with a relatively small coefficient, you can win (if the combinations of other participants do not work).

[Trofo]

Guys, why don't we go the BetBuilder route? ^[screenshot] The winner is determined by the highest won odds (let's say the bet should consist of at least three of any combinations). I don't think that it is a problem for each of us to place a bet, say, in the amount of 0.02 mBTC ^{[this is the minimum allowed rate]}, especially considering that even with a relatively small coefficient, you can win (if the combinations of other participants do not work).

I don't like it since it will probably reveal a lot in terms what results we are expecting and that is last game in our superbru pool. And I am quite sure half of the people in the pool don't have money on their sportsbet accounts 

Our group is already very small so I will keep it without additional demands as it was announced in the beginning. Somebody would have felt hard done for sure.

[DIA7]

Maybe we should go for most free kick won , goalkeeper saves, total number of passes, and add the usual most cards and most corner kicks.