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June 06, 2021, 12:20:02 PM
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The world is corrupt so I agree with your opinion.
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Yes, I immediately remembered the Korean movie Deranged in 2012, a medical thriller.  After investigating the circumstances, it was discovered that the owner of the pharmacy was the only one who planned everything, they made an infection so that the medicine they would make could be sold.  Able to do evil just to get rich.  Dazzled by money to be powerful.  So neither can we blame others who do not want to believe.
Look in the Philippines, the hospitalization expenses when you are infected with covid are very expensive, where in fact the medicine is not that expensive, not only the Pharma but even the medical practitioners and hospitals are taking advantage of the situation. They are greedy as hell and they don't live according to their purpose.



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June 06, 2021, 12:31:14 PM
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Yes, I immediately remembered the Korean movie Deranged in 2012, a medical thriller.  After investigating the circumstances, it was discovered that the owner of the pharmacy was the only one who planned everything, they made an infection so that the medicine they would make could be sold.  Able to do evil just to get rich.  Dazzled by money to be powerful.  So neither can we blame others who do not want to believe.

That doesn't mean that you should believe all the baseless propaganda that has been floating around. One of the biggest opponents of vaccination campaign, Jair Bolsonaro (president of Brazil) claims that if you take a COVID 19 vaccine, then you will turn to an alligator. Let me know if you believe these sort of stuff. Also, in countries such as India, a lot of fake messages are being propagated in Whatsapp and other social media. Some of them claim that if you get admitted in a hospital, then your organs will be stolen.
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June 06, 2021, 01:03:16 PM
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That doesn't mean that you should believe all the baseless propaganda that has been floating around. One of the biggest opponents of vaccination campaign, Jair Bolsonaro (president of Brazil) claims that if you take a COVID 19 vaccine, then you will turn to an alligator. Let me know if you believe these sort of stuff. Also, in countries such as India, a lot of fake messages are being propagated in Whatsapp and other social media. Some of them claim that if you get admitted in a hospital, then your organs will be stolen.
Of course, I don't believe in such things, unless I actually saw the events with my own eyes, in other words, to see is to believe. And not all media reports are pure facts because there are also biases. I have my own understanding of what I know. I just believe more in side effects, which if there is no effect on others can have an effect on you because the components inside the body are different (I am referring to complex studies) such as allergies and other current illnesses.

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June 06, 2021, 01:16:13 PM
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I don't believe that vaccines are our only hope. If they can come up with a pill that works against the virus, the vaccines would become obsolete. Think about it, you have to get vaccinated every 3-5 months. If there was an effective medicine, you could take that  right after you felt the sickness and get healthy again.

I don't understand why people act like vaccines are the only way. There are pills for other viruses. You can even suppress HIV by taking pills. I think big pharma want to milk the herds with vaccines instead.

The world is corrupt so I agree with your opinion.

There must be a pill that we can take just like when we are having a fever and we get the relief, you know, this involves a lot of money and the pandemic is a good situation for this greedy pharma to make money, we are not anymore living in a safe world, that's because of the greediness of people.

For sure, a pill will be release in the future or there would be another virus that will spread, and they'll continue to make money.
The pharmaceutical will found that pill, but the vaccine can help people have better immune. But of course, without trying to have a healthy life, the vaccine can not work better. I hope the pharmaceutical, hospital, and pharma will not use this pandemic for their own good because it is related to all people in all countries. The government wants to eradicate the virus with many things, including with vaccine, so it needs cooperation with all people by apply the health protocols and vaccinated. But the government can not force people to be vaccinated because that is up to them.

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June 06, 2021, 01:23:12 PM
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Of course, I don't believe in such things, unless I actually saw the events with my own eyes, in other words, to see is to believe. And not all media reports are pure facts because there are also biases. I have my own understanding of what I know. I just believe more in side effects, which if there is no effect on others can have an effect on you because the components inside the body are different (I am referring to complex studies) such as allergies and other current illnesses.

You need to make your own decision, whether it is beneficial to get vaccinated or not. People who have a history of allergic reaction to vaccines and other medications need to be careful. If the COVID incidence in your country is low, and if the majority of the population is already vaccinated, then there is a chance that you can defer or even refuse vaccination. But for others, I would say that it is more beneficial to get themselves vaccinated. In countries such as India, people have no other choice. Because the infection rate is so high.
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June 06, 2021, 01:26:27 PM
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I don't believe that vaccines are our only hope. If they can come up with a pill that works against the virus, the vaccines would become obsolete. Think about it, you have to get vaccinated every 3-5 months. If there was an effective medicine, you could take that  right after you felt the sickness and get healthy again.

I don't understand why people act like vaccines are the only way. There are pills for other viruses. You can even suppress HIV by taking pills. I think big pharma want to milk the herds with vaccines instead.

The world is corrupt so I agree with your opinion.

There must be a pill that we can take just like when we are having a fever and we get the relief, you know, this involves a lot of money and the pandemic is a good situation for this greedy pharma to make money, we are not anymore living in a safe world, that's because of the greediness of people.

For sure, a pill will be release in the future or there would be another virus that will spread, and they'll continue to make money.
The pharmaceutical will found that pill, but the vaccine can help people have better immune. But of course, without trying to have a healthy life, the vaccine can not work better. I hope the pharmaceutical, hospital, and pharma will not use this pandemic for their own good because it is related to all people in all countries. The government wants to eradicate the virus with many things, including with vaccine, so it needs cooperation with all people by apply the health protocols and vaccinated. But the government can not force people to be vaccinated because that is up to them.

But the vaccine might not be safe. Phase 3 Clinical trials are not finished for all of those vaccines. Catching the infection and dying from it is a low probability unless you are fat or old af. I don't want to be a lab rat for the big pharma tbh. I'll probably take my chances with covid19 instead.

SputnikV seems to be safer than the rest but I haven't made up my mind yet.

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June 06, 2021, 05:38:29 PM
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But the vaccine might not be safe. Phase 3 Clinical trials are not finished for all of those vaccines. Catching the infection and dying from it is a low probability unless you are fat or old af. I don't want to be a lab rat for the big pharma tbh. I'll probably take my chances with covid19 instead.

SputnikV seems to be safer than the rest but I haven't made up my mind yet.
Yes, it might not be safe for some people. But for the other, it might give them more immune to prevent the virus attack. The effect will vary between all people who get the vaccine, but I am sure the pharmaceutical industry still works hard to finish the new vaccine, which will have more power. But what I am worried that people with a serious disease will be more susceptible than healthy people, even if they get the vaccine. I still waiting for the invitation from my government to get vaccinated.

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June 06, 2021, 06:18:11 PM
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Yes, it might not be safe for some people. But for the other, it might give them more immune to prevent the virus attack. The effect will vary between all people who get the vaccine, but I am sure the pharmaceutical industry still works hard to finish the new vaccine, which will have more power. But what I am worried that people with a serious disease will be more susceptible than healthy people, even if they get the vaccine. I still waiting for the invitation from my government to get vaccinated.

Even those with comorbidities would fare better, in case they receive two doses of the vaccine. But being overweight and diabetic increases the fatality rate by manytimes, and the vaccine won't be able to reduce it to zero. Those who are vaccinated also need to wear masks and perform social distancing, especially if they have one or more comorbidity. In the end, everyone is responsible for themselves. Please remember that vaccines can only help in our fight against the virus.
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June 06, 2021, 07:41:10 PM
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Yes, it might not be safe for some people. But for the other, it might give them more immune to prevent the virus attack. The effect will vary between all people who get the vaccine, but I am sure the pharmaceutical industry still works hard to finish the new vaccine, which will have more power. But what I am worried that people with a serious disease will be more susceptible than healthy people, even if they get the vaccine. I still waiting for the invitation from my government to get vaccinated.

Even those with comorbidities would fare better, in case they receive two doses of the vaccine. But being overweight and diabetic increases the fatality rate by manytimes, and the vaccine won't be able to reduce it to zero. Those who are vaccinated also need to wear masks and perform social distancing, especially if they have one or more comorbidity. In the end, everyone is responsible for themselves. Please remember that vaccines can only help in our fight against the virus.
The death of people who have got vaccinated is very low. Even if affected the infection isn't that high in the body. Covid-19 affects the lungs. Please stay safe wearing masks and maintaining social distancing. If you get opportunity, get vaccinated. My father was admitted in the hospital and minutes back received the call, he's in ventilator. Everything happened as a result of being careless.

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June 06, 2021, 08:45:59 PM
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The world is corrupt so I agree with your opinion.
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Yes, I immediately remembered the Korean movie Deranged in 2012, a medical thriller.  After investigating the circumstances, it was discovered that the owner of the pharmacy was the only one who planned everything, they made an infection so that the medicine they would make could be sold.  Able to do evil just to get rich.  Dazzled by money to be powerful.  So neither can we blame others who do not want to believe.
Look in the Philippines, the hospitalization expenses when you are infected with covid are very expensive, where in fact the medicine is not that expensive, not only the Pharma but even the medical practitioners and hospitals are taking advantage of the situation. They are greedy as hell and they don't live according to their purpose.
Well, that is because of the COVID-19 Hassard pay that they will get, most of them taking advantage of it even you did not infect yet but they will find ways how to become positive the swab result test. But that is their business, let just hope we are not going to the hospital for any checkup, the result will always positive if we will do that. Speaking with the vaccine, I think we consider as safe after you will take a second dose of the vaccine because, in the process of having covid-19 vaccines, it should be the first dose and then the interval time for the 2nd dose depends on which brand of vaccine did you take. But I believe you are not completely safe in that way, we should wear at least a face mask.









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June 06, 2021, 11:14:02 PM
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Yes, it might not be safe for some people. But for the other, it might give them more immune to prevent the virus attack. The effect will vary between all people who get the vaccine, but I am sure the pharmaceutical industry still works hard to finish the new vaccine, which will have more power. But what I am worried that people with a serious disease will be more susceptible than healthy people, even if they get the vaccine. I still waiting for the invitation from my government to get vaccinated.

Even those with comorbidities would fare better, in case they receive two doses of the vaccine. But being overweight and diabetic increases the fatality rate by manytimes, and the vaccine won't be able to reduce it to zero. Those who are vaccinated also need to wear masks and perform social distancing, especially if they have one or more comorbidity. In the end, everyone is responsible for themselves. Please remember that vaccines can only help in our fight against the virus.
The death of people who have got vaccinated is very low. Even if affected the infection isn't that high in the body. Covid-19 affects the lungs. Please stay safe wearing masks and maintaining social distancing. If you get opportunity, get vaccinated. My father was admitted in the hospital and minutes back received the call, he's in ventilator. Everything happened as a result of being careless.
Even im already vaccinated i cant still be that confident on going to crowded places without wearing any mask or face shield because no vaccine could

really  be 100% effective and make you immune and instead i do make my immunity even more stronger by taking healthy foods and vitamins plus

having a sufficient sleep and some exercise.It might not be that relevant for some but once you do have strong body and immunity then its really hard

for you to be infected with the virus but still not an assurance.I wont risk out my life just because you do miss out those good old days.

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June 06, 2021, 11:55:46 PM
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Even im already vaccinated i cant still be that confident on going to crowded places without wearing any mask or face shield

Even the pandemic will be over (hopefully), wearing a facemask will now be part of my routine when going in public.

I'm also vaccinated now with my 2nd dose coming in for few more days but still, I will just take that as my primary protection but there should be a secondary to that and those are wearing a facemask and practicing and maintaining proper hygiene.

On those casinos or any establishment that allows not wearing face for those who got vaccinated already, there is nothing wrong with that. A person should already know what to do in public places.
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June 06, 2021, 11:59:19 PM
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Even im already vaccinated i cant still be that confident on going to crowded places without wearing any mask or face shield

Even the pandemic will be over (hopefully), wearing a facemask will now be part of my routine when going in public.

I'm also vaccinated now with my 2nd dose coming in for few more days but still, I will just take that as my primary protection but there should be a secondary to that and those are wearing a facemask and practicing and maintaining proper hygiene.

On those casinos or any establishment that allows not wearing face for those who got vaccinated already, there is nothing wrong with that. A person should already know what to do in public places.
We do really miss those normal days in our life where everything isnt restricted or any signs of fear and being worried about being infected by something.
Just like on what others been saying that i cant even afford to go into public places unprotected with mask and other wear ups even if you had taken a shot and as we all know that it isnt really talking about full protection and does still have risk on getting the virus.

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Even im already vaccinated i cant still be that confident on going to crowded places without wearing any mask or face shield
Even the pandemic will be over (hopefully), wearing a facemask will now be part of my routine when going in public.

I'm also vaccinated now with my 2nd dose coming in for few more days but still, I will just take that as my primary protection but there should be a secondary to that and those are wearing a facemask and practicing and maintaining proper hygiene.

On those casinos or any establishment that allows not wearing face for those who got vaccinated already, there is nothing wrong with that. A person should already know what to do in public places.
We do really miss those normal days in our life where everything isnt restricted or any signs of fear and being worried about being infected by something.
Just like on what others been saying that i cant even afford to go into public places unprotected with mask and other wear ups even if you had taken a shot and as we all know that it isnt really talking about full protection and does still have risk on getting the virus.

This pandemic has been going on for a year and there are no signs of stopping, I feel like you really miss where things are still normal.
I can play freely in crowded places without wearing a mask and feeling scared. It's the same with casinos in Vegas, even though they've been
vaccinated. Still does not guarantee 100% safe will not be infected, so I'm sure people who gamble in Vegas are unsettled and frightened.
To be honest living with this kind of situation is not comfortable at all, I hope a vaccine is found that is really effective and can stop the spread of
the corona virus. I'm really looking forward to living a normal life as usual.

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June 07, 2021, 02:56:48 AM
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Yes, it might not be safe for some people. But for the other, it might give them more immune to prevent the virus attack. The effect will vary between all people who get the vaccine, but I am sure the pharmaceutical industry still works hard to finish the new vaccine, which will have more power. But what I am worried that people with a serious disease will be more susceptible than healthy people, even if they get the vaccine. I still waiting for the invitation from my government to get vaccinated.

Even those with comorbidities would fare better, in case they receive two doses of the vaccine. But being overweight and diabetic increases the fatality rate by manytimes, and the vaccine won't be able to reduce it to zero. Those who are vaccinated also need to wear masks and perform social distancing, especially if they have one or more comorbidity. In the end, everyone is responsible for themselves. Please remember that vaccines can only help in our fight against the virus.
I think all people will get two doses of the vaccine but they have time to inject between the first and the second doses. Diabetic, heart disease and other serious diseases can make them wait for a while until their doctor allows them to get vaccinated. The susceptible ages now might be at 30-50 ages because many of them have got a serious disease to not go to the public area without carefully. Yes, people need to be responsible for themselves, always be careful, and not forget to carry hand sanitiser everywhere.

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June 07, 2021, 03:40:44 AM
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Doctors don't know the cure for a disease or infection, especially when the case is new to them.  Many times I have been the attendant of my sister, grandmother, and uncle being confined to the hospital.  That's why sometimes you notice doctors whispering because they don't know how to treat the patient and what medications to take.  They also do trial and error, observing how the body will react.  So they will only be effective when everything that should be tested has been done, and there is no guarantee that they will be perfectly effective.  Herewith us, there seems to be a lack of supply of vaccines, and those in the medical fields, government employees, and front liners are given priority.  While I still have time to think, we are just waiting for a go signal or announcement to the public if there is enough vaccine for all citizens.  It is also a reminder that it is still necessary to follow health protocols such as wearing facemasks in public places to prevent the spread of the virus.

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Doctors don't know the cure for a disease or infection, especially when the case is new to them.  Many times I have been the attendant of my sister, grandmother, and uncle being confined to the hospital.  That's why sometimes you notice doctors whispering because they don't know how to treat the patient and what medications to take.  They also do trial and error, observing how the body will react.  So they will only be effective when everything that should be tested has been done, and there is no guarantee that they will be perfectly effective.  Herewith us, there seems to be a lack of supply of vaccines, and those in the medical fields, government employees, and front liners are given priority.  While I still have time to think, we are just waiting for a go signal or announcement to the public if there is enough vaccine for all citizens.  It is also a reminder that it is still necessary to follow health protocols such as wearing facemasks in public places to prevent the spread of the virus.

That is not surprising. CoVID 19 is not a well known virus. It was first studied in 2020. So whatever treatment regimen we have now was devised during the last 1.5 years. It may work on a particular group of people, and it may not work on some other group of people. The most common drugs being used right now are Favipiravir, Remdesivir and Amphotericin B. A few months back, it was not known that these drugs are useful for the treatment of CoVID 19. Back then drugs such as Hydroxychloroquine were being used.
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I don't believe that vaccines are our only hope. If they can come up with a pill that works against the virus, the vaccines would become obsolete. Think about it, you have to get vaccinated every 3-5 months. If there was an effective medicine, you could take that  right after you felt the sickness and get healthy again.

I don't understand why people act like vaccines are the only way. There are pills for other viruses. You can even suppress HIV by taking pills. I think big pharma want to milk the herds with vaccines instead.
The problem is that when you give people the same thing as a pill instead of a vaccination, the amount of people who accept it goes up insanely high, like crazy high, and that is a problem isn't it? I mean think about it, you give a pill that does EXACTLY THE SAME THING and they prefer it instead of vaccination.

I understand any person who is afraid of vaccination, for example kids are afraid of it, and some adults have that go way into life, until death as well. Which is why I think it is quite understandable but that is a lower number, the main reason is that there are tons of people who think that vaccination is bad, even if it is literally the same thing they feel like pills are fine, which is scientifically a very moronic situation because you are getting the same thing. I hope a pill happens very quickly, but I believe we are doing much better right now.

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June 07, 2021, 06:46:46 PM
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I don't believe that vaccines are our only hope. If they can come up with a pill that works against the virus, the vaccines would become obsolete. Think about it, you have to get vaccinated every 3-5 months. If there was an effective medicine, you could take that  right after you felt the sickness and get healthy again.

I don't understand why people act like vaccines are the only way. There are pills for other viruses. You can even suppress HIV by taking pills. I think big pharma want to milk the herds with vaccines instead.
The problem is that when you give people the same thing as a pill instead of a vaccination, the amount of people who accept it goes up insanely high, like crazy high, and that is a problem isn't it? I mean think about it, you give a pill that does EXACTLY THE SAME THING and they prefer it instead of vaccination.

I understand any person who is afraid of vaccination, for example kids are afraid of it, and some adults have that go way into life, until death as well. Which is why I think it is quite understandable but that is a lower number, the main reason is that there are tons of people who think that vaccination is bad, even if it is literally the same thing they feel like pills are fine, which is scientifically a very moronic situation because you are getting the same thing. I hope a pill happens very quickly, but I believe we are doing much better right now.

I thought about it and you are partly right. You are right because I remembered that you have to take the HIV pills daily and they kind of act like vaccines.

However, the flu pill oseltamivir kills the virus right away and you only take it when you feel sick.

Maybe they should work on something like oseltamivir.

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Even the pandemic will be over (hopefully), wearing a facemask will now be part of my routine when going in public.

I'm also vaccinated now with my 2nd dose coming in for few more days but still, I will just take that as my primary protection but there should be a secondary to that and those are wearing a facemask and practicing and maintaining proper hygiene.

On those casinos or any establishment that allows not wearing face for those who got vaccinated already, there is nothing wrong with that. A person should already know what to do in public places.

Never I dreamed that this thing could happen and the only way for us to be safe is to wear a facemask because way back on the normal days whenever I saw a person wearing a mask for me is only implies two thing it's either the person who wears a masks is a health worker or the one who have had sick. But now this face mask is already a part of our life and whether we like it or not having a proper personal hygiene and wearing a face mask especially if your in a public place is a must, it shouldn't be a mandatory that a government should impose but we already knew this for ourselves. I am not yet get vaccinated even a first dose so for me even if the world healed from this pandemic i'd still preferring to wear a face mask.
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