Fully vaccinated individuals now spared of masks in the casinos in Vegas

[michellee]

I have a question here. What if the individual falsely claims that he is fully vaccinated? Here in India, we had a few cases where air travelers submitted fake RT-PCR test results to claim that they are COVID negative (although their tests had returned positive results). So is it that difficult to create fake documents to show that the individual is vaccinated? I know that the system in the United States is much better than what we have in India. But still, loopholes will always be there, which will be exploited by criminal minded people.

I think that they have some sort of vaccine passport that is probably authenticated and really hard to fake not to mention that there's probably a big fine or infractions to someone who fakes a government document, I think that it's even probably a federal offense or something so I don't think that people are probably going to take the risk of faking it just to gamble.

Vaccine passports can't be faked. And I don't think that someone will try to fake it, just to gain access to a casino without mask requirement. If caught, he faces a jail term. However, I am not sure whether the individuals will be asked to produce their vaccine passports at the casino. In many cases, it maybe just the SMS message or an online document certifying the inoculation. On such instances, these messages and documents can be faked. But the larger question here is whether the vaccinated people should be allowed not to wear masks or not. And IMO, everyone should wear masks, irrespective of their vaccination status.

I heard that some dirty officers from the hospital give offers to people who want to travel to other cities or countries to give a letter free of Covid easily.
They can make a fake document that explains that a person can free travel or visit another city.
But for to go to the crowded place such as mall or casino, I do not think that will need the letter or passports because maybe the casino itself does not require that passports for people play gambling in their place.

[KTChampions]

Vaccine passports can't be faked. And I don't think that someone will try to fake it, just to gain access to a casino without mask requirement. If caught, he faces a jail term. However, I am not sure whether the individuals will be asked to produce their vaccine passports at the casino. In many cases, it maybe just the SMS message or an online document certifying the inoculation. On such instances, these messages and documents can be faked. But the larger question here is whether the vaccinated people should be allowed not to wear masks or not. And IMO, everyone should wear masks, irrespective of their vaccination status.

Vaccination passports are initially a disgusting idea and I don't care how it will be buried - by the prohibition of the adequate authorities or by sabotage (forgery of passports) by the population. I heard that in one of the US states, the governor imposed a fine for organizations of $ 5,000 for the very fact of the question of vaccinating a visitor.

[Silberman]

The people who are vaccinated should not think that covid-19 cannot harm them. They can still get infected from covid-19 but there are chances that they will recover because they have antibodies in this body. The mask should be wear by both vaccinated and those who are not vaccinated. Its for our own safety.

It is unlikely that those that are vaccinated are going to keep wearing the mask after all many are taking the vaccine precisely because they want to return to their normal lives and be over with this nightmare, and taking into account that many countries are allowing those that are vaccinated to stop wearing the masks then this tendency is going to continue, and yes while they can still get sick with this virus the vaccine is there to lessen the intensity of the disease so people do not suffer grave symptoms.

We can't return to the normal lives until either the covid-19 is completely eliminated from the world or all of the world population is vaccinated. Both of these conditions seems impossible for now.
Therefore whether you are vaccinated or not, you should keep on wearing the masks all the time when you are outside and in public.

I have not been vaccinated because it is still not my turn but believe me I will keep wearing the mask however in many countries those that are vaccinated do not have to wear the mask anymore and now that people do not have the same fear and respect they had for the virus at the beginning of the pandemic it is unlikely they will do it if they are given the freedom to do so or not, after all we need to recognize it is uncomfortable to wear the mask and now that people feel safe they will be less inclined to do it.

[madnessteat]

Vaccine passports can't be faked. And I don't think that someone will try to fake it, just to gain access to a casino without mask requirement. If caught, he faces a jail term. However, I am not sure whether the individuals will be asked to produce their vaccine passports at the casino. In many cases, it maybe just the SMS message or an online document certifying the inoculation. On such instances, these messages and documents can be faked. But the larger question here is whether the vaccinated people should be allowed not to wear masks or not. And IMO, everyone should wear masks, irrespective of their vaccination status.

Vaccination passports are initially a disgusting idea and I don't care how it will be buried - by the prohibition of the adequate authorities or by sabotage (forgery of passports) by the population. I heard that in one of the US states, the governor imposed a fine for organizations of $ 5,000 for the very fact of the question of vaccinating a visitor.

I, like you, think that the vaccination passport is evil.

In my opinion vaccination is purely voluntary, so no one has the right to infringe on people's rights to move freely, even if they don't want to be vaccinated for some reason. I believe that a person wearing a mask should have all the same rights as a person with a vaccination certificate. But unfortunately we have seen the opposite trend lately.

[Mahanton]

Vaccine passports can't be faked. And I don't think that someone will try to fake it, just to gain access to a casino without mask requirement. If caught, he faces a jail term. However, I am not sure whether the individuals will be asked to produce their vaccine passports at the casino. In many cases, it maybe just the SMS message or an online document certifying the inoculation. On such instances, these messages and documents can be faked. But the larger question here is whether the vaccinated people should be allowed not to wear masks or not. And IMO, everyone should wear masks, irrespective of their vaccination status.

Vaccination passports are initially a disgusting idea and I don't care how it will be buried - by the prohibition of the adequate authorities or by sabotage (forgery of passports) by the population. I heard that in one of the US states, the governor imposed a fine for organizations of $ 5,000 for the very fact of the question of vaccinating a visitor.

I, like you, think that the vaccination passport is evil.

In my opinion vaccination is purely voluntary, so no one has the right to infringe on people's rights to move freely, even if they don't want to be vaccinated for some reason. I believe that a person wearing a mask should have all the same rights as a person with a vaccination certificate. But unfortunately we have seen the opposite trend lately.

Here on my country on where there are tendency that a certain citizen would got in prison if they wont really be taking some shot of the vaccine which i can say to be totally bullshit on forcing out someone on taking the vaccine even if they didnt want to.We do have the full rights when it comes to decisions that we do make in our own lives and this one specially regarding with health then it shouldnt really be something that could turn out to be mandatory since it wont already be humanitarian on forcing out people. On this situation then its up to someones choice even they got vaccinated then someone do decide to wear still some mask then its a personal choice and if this one turns out to be some trial then i wouldnt really be risking out my health just for this.Im just too scared on getting infected myself even got vaccinated.

[bhadz]

Vaccination passports are initially a disgusting idea and I don't care how it will be buried - by the prohibition of the adequate authorities or by sabotage (forgery of passports) by the population. I heard that in one of the US states, the governor imposed a fine for organizations of $ 5,000 for the very fact of the question of vaccinating a visitor.

I don't like the idea either but that seem to be their solution to know who are those vaccinated and not yet vaccinated. But there's such a division with this idea because whoever gets the vaccine, they're allowed to go on and proceed while those that haven't taken the shot, they won't be prioritized or passed on. That's very hard for those that haven't taken the vaccine but the only solution is to be vaccinated. But yeah, these vaccine passports are also prone to being faked by those who wants to bypass being vaccinated.

[KTChampions]

Vaccination passports are initially a disgusting idea and I don't care how it will be buried - by the prohibition of the adequate authorities or by sabotage (forgery of passports) by the population. I heard that in one of the US states, the governor imposed a fine for organizations of $ 5,000 for the very fact of the question of vaccinating a visitor.

I, like you, think that the vaccination passport is evil.

In my opinion vaccination is purely voluntary, so no one has the right to infringe on people's rights to move freely, even if they don't want to be vaccinated for some reason. I believe that a person wearing a mask should have all the same rights as a person with a vaccination certificate. But unfortunately we have seen the opposite trend lately.

If we take into account the peculiarities of the country in which we live, then compulsory vaccination has even more monstrous shades 

I don't like the idea either but that seem to be their solution to know who are those vaccinated and not yet vaccinated. But there's such a division with this idea because whoever gets the vaccine, they're allowed to go on and proceed while those that haven't taken the shot, they won't be prioritized or passed on. That's very hard for those that haven't taken the vaccine but the only solution is to be vaccinated. But yeah, these vaccine passports are also prone to being faked by those who wants to bypass being vaccinated.

You are mistaken, I would not like to start a discussion about vaccines here, but it has already been established that they are practically useless against rapidly mutating viruses, and even those who have been vaccinated can become infected and die. In addition, they have a short-term impact, if you are ready to get vaccinated every six months then I am not. And I am not ready to endure infringement of rights for medical reasons.

[Chato1977]

I have a question here. What if the individual falsely claims that he is fully vaccinated? Here in India, we had a few cases where air travelers submitted fake RT-PCR test results to claim that they are COVID negative (although their tests had returned positive results). So is it that difficult to create fake documents to show that the individual is vaccinated? I know that the system in the United States is much better than what we have in India. But still, loopholes will always be there, which will be exploited by criminal minded people.

Very possible, there are people who are ready taking  that kind of risk,

Knowing that even the government have rules about this kind of case. They are still willing to break it if chance permits them, placing more people in danger as this virus can easily spread. No doubts that US have better ways but criminal minds or people who are desperate can still go ahead and do this willingly.

Gamblers has this mentality of being desperate in everything from money to happiness so that is why they can still gamble even though they can be infected by this killer virus.

Hope that people may realized how dangerous this can be .

People can easily get fake documents to go somewhere they want.
As long as they can pay for creating fake documents about their health, they can go anywhere without worry about checking the health officers.
Maybe that is because the awareness from those people will not too high compare to the people who really care about their health so those people use the wrong way to achieve what they want.
I doubt if they will follow the health protocols that their government has given because they really do not care about what happened around them.

Who told you that Covid vaccine document can easily be faked? i don't know in your country but in mine? there is no possibilities that you can do such because the people around this area are very strict on every people that they have vaccinated because the data is very important for the President .

[Shasha80]

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Gamblers has this mentality of being desperate in everything from money to happiness so that is why they can still gamble even though they can be infected by this killer virus.

Hope that people may realized how dangerous this can be .

People can easily get fake documents to go somewhere they want.
As long as they can pay for creating fake documents about their health, they can go anywhere without worry about checking the health officers.
Maybe that is because the awareness from those people will not too high compare to the people who really care about their health so those people use the wrong way to achieve what they want.
I doubt if they will follow the health protocols that their government has given because they really do not care about what happened around them.

Who told you that Covid vaccine document can easily be faked? i don't know in your country but in mine? there is no possibilities that you can do such because the people around this area are very strict on every people that they have vaccinated because the data is very important for the President .

You are lucky to live in a country where COVID vaccine documents are difficult to forge, because of the fact that some third world countries are
very easy to fake COVID vaccine documents. It is true that the COVID vaccine document data should be very important and its authenticity
must be maintained, so that the government can easily make decisions regarding pandemic policies. But in third world countries, money has
enabled people to do anything, even if they forge COVID vaccine documents.

[traderethereum]

I have a question here. What if the individual falsely claims that he is fully vaccinated? Here in India, we had a few cases where air travelers submitted fake RT-PCR test results to claim that they are COVID negative (although their tests had returned positive results). So is it that difficult to create fake documents to show that the individual is vaccinated? I know that the system in the United States is much better than what we have in India. But still, loopholes will always be there, which will be exploited by criminal minded people.

Very possible, there are people who are ready taking  that kind of risk,

Knowing that even the government have rules about this kind of case. They are still willing to break it if chance permits them, placing more people in danger as this virus can easily spread. No doubts that US have better ways but criminal minds or people who are desperate can still go ahead and do this willingly.

Gamblers has this mentality of being desperate in everything from money to happiness so that is why they can still gamble even though they can be infected by this killer virus.

Hope that people may realized how dangerous this can be .

People can easily get fake documents to go somewhere they want.
As long as they can pay for creating fake documents about their health, they can go anywhere without worry about checking the health officers.
Maybe that is because the awareness from those people will not too high compare to the people who really care about their health so those people use the wrong way to achieve what they want.
I doubt if they will follow the health protocols that their government has given because they really do not care about what happened around them.

Who told you that Covid vaccine document can easily be faked? i don't know in your country but in mine? there is no possibilities that you can do such because the people around this area are very strict on every people that they have vaccinated because the data is very important for the President .

I only heard from the local news and television.
People who want to go to other states need to have a letter explaining that they already pass the Covid and the vaccine check.
Irresponsible doctor offers to those people that they can help them pass the checking to go to the other state.
It is already happening but I still sure that it will solve sooner or later.
Or maybe I am misunderstanding hearing from that news, and if so, I apologize.

[fuguebtc]

Is this news still up to date? I read that now with the new Delta variant everything is changing again. Apparently the new virus is so highly infectious that there is no real different anymore between people who got vaccinated and people who didn't. So when travelling now we have to do another 14 days of quarantine, no matter if we already had corona in the past or if we are vaccinated. This was exactly what I was afraid of, that there will be a mutation that is much more risky and we are not good protected. I hope not much is going to change in Las Vegas.

When the whole world was moving towards stability, the Delta variant changed everything. The second wave of corona virus has appeared in different countries around the world. Which is scarier than the first time. The countries of South Asia in particular are in more crisis. Because their medical system is far behind the developed countries.

[peter0425]

Is this news still up to date? I read that now with the new Delta variant everything is changing again. Apparently the new virus is so highly infectious that there is no real different anymore between people who got vaccinated and people who didn't. So when travelling now we have to do another 14 days of quarantine, no matter if we already had corona in the past or if we are vaccinated. This was exactly what I was afraid of, that there will be a mutation that is much more risky and we are not good protected. I hope not much is going to change in Las Vegas.

Yeah That's also in the news nowadays and i believe that this rules will be change (not unless the US manage to keep their country away from that variant in which i believe is impossible)

[hahay]

Is this news still up to date? I read that now with the new Delta variant everything is changing again. Apparently the new virus is so highly infectious that there is no real different anymore between people who got vaccinated and people who didn't. So when travelling now we have to do another 14 days of quarantine, no matter if we already had corona in the past or if we are vaccinated. This was exactly what I was afraid of, that there will be a mutation that is much more risky and we are not good protected. I hope not much is going to change in Las Vegas.

The best hope is always there, but if it is a new, more dangerous variant of the virus then of course, the use of masks must still be prioritized. It doesn't matter if they have been vaccinated because wearing masks has to become a new habit at least until this pandemic is completely over, because this virus is still dangerous and all citizens still haven't fully vaccinated, create awareness to keep everything safe.

[Betwrong]

Is this news still up to date? I read that now with the new Delta variant everything is changing again. Apparently the new virus is so highly infectious that there is no real different anymore between people who got vaccinated and people who didn't. So when travelling now we have to do another 14 days of quarantine, no matter if we already had corona in the past or if we are vaccinated. This was exactly what I was afraid of, that there will be a mutation that is much more risky and we are not good protected. I hope not much is going to change in Las Vegas.

When the whole world was moving towards stability, the Delta variant changed everything. The second wave of corona virus has appeared in different countries around the world. Which is scarier than the first time. The countries of South Asia in particular are in more crisis. Because their medical system is far behind the developed countries.

It depends on how you look at it. Delta variant's transmissibility is higher than that of Alpha variant, and that's why people are so scared: they are taking into account only this aspect of the current situation. But we shouldn't forget that vaccination is now well under way, with 40+ million administered each day now. Almost 25% of the world population has received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine already. Having that in mind, please, read the following:

There are also concerns that current vaccines are less able to protect against the variant, although the latest PHE figures suggest two doses of either vaccine are still highly effective against hospitalization: 96% for Pfizer/BioNTech and 92% for Oxford/AstraZeneca.

In simple words: if vaccinated, even if you catch Delta, the chances of ending up in the hospital are extremely low.

I'm not saying we shouldn't care though. As I said in my earlier post: I don't think going to public places, including casinos, is a good idea these days, even if you are fully vaccinated. But, imo, we should avoid unnecessary panic by all means.

[Zilon]

I guess since we haven't heard of ant adverse effects of the vaccine then I feel it's a must take for all since it is a safety measure against the dangerous pandemic. But however some countries haven't gotten enough that would serve their citizens and many political citizens are playing a heavy politics on the covid vaccine. How ever it's a good report to note that at this point there are no adverse effects meaning it's safer especially for people exposed to crowdy environment

[KTChampions]

It depends on how you look at it. Delta variant's transmissibility is higher than that of Alpha variant, and that's why people are so scared: they are taking into account only this aspect of the current situation. But we shouldn't forget that vaccination is now well under way, with 40+ million administered each day now. Almost 25% of the world population has received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine already. Having that in mind, please, read the following:

There are also concerns that current vaccines are less able to protect against the variant, although the latest PHE figures suggest two doses of either vaccine are still highly effective against hospitalization: 96% for Pfizer/BioNTech and 92% for Oxford/AstraZeneca.

In simple words: if vaccinated, even if you catch Delta, the chances of ending up in the hospital are extremely low.

I'm not saying we shouldn't care though. As I said in my earlier post: I don't think going to public places, including casinos, is a good idea these days, even if you are fully vaccinated. But, imo, we should avoid unnecessary panic by all means.

The more I hear about these new strains (yesterday, for example, another and naturally even more dangerous lambda strain appeared) the less seriously I take it. It's like a TV show where every episode is getting worse and worse in quality. Scientists say that the new strains are more infectious (but we cannot check them), but the mortality from them is still less than from the previous ones (we can check this). So why should we be afraid? The epidemic will subside by itself.
By the way, Singapore recently announced that it will revise its medical protocols and in the future will seek to treat covid as a common flu.
P.S. Don't consider me a covid skeptic, but I think that the noise around the coronavirus has done more harm than the virus itself.

[bhadz]

I don't like the idea either but that seem to be their solution to know who are those vaccinated and not yet vaccinated. But there's such a division with this idea because whoever gets the vaccine, they're allowed to go on and proceed while those that haven't taken the shot, they won't be prioritized or passed on. That's very hard for those that haven't taken the vaccine but the only solution is to be vaccinated. But yeah, these vaccine passports are also prone to being faked by those who wants to bypass being vaccinated.

You are mistaken, I would not like to start a discussion about vaccines here, but it has already been established that they are practically useless against rapidly mutating viruses, and even those who have been vaccinated can become infected and die. In addition, they have a short-term impact, if you are ready to get vaccinated every six months then I am not. And I am not ready to endure infringement of rights for medical reasons.

That's a different information that I've read and watched. But there's always the debate about vaccines and I may be wrong and you're right and I respect that. The vaccine are requiring two shots and I think the time interval is just two months after you take the first vaccine and there's the other vaccine that only requires one shot.
I haven't heard that there's a vaccine that requires to be vaccinated every six months.

[Fatunad]

I don't like the idea either but that seem to be their solution to know who are those vaccinated and not yet vaccinated. But there's such a division with this idea because whoever gets the vaccine, they're allowed to go on and proceed while those that haven't taken the shot, they won't be prioritized or passed on. That's very hard for those that haven't taken the vaccine but the only solution is to be vaccinated. But yeah, these vaccine passports are also prone to being faked by those who wants to bypass being vaccinated.

You are mistaken, I would not like to start a discussion about vaccines here, but it has already been established that they are practically useless against rapidly mutating viruses, and even those who have been vaccinated can become infected and die. In addition, they have a short-term impact, if you are ready to get vaccinated every six months then I am not. And I am not ready to endure infringement of rights for medical reasons.

That's a different information that I've read and watched. But there's always the debate about vaccines and I may be wrong and you're right and I respect that. The vaccine are requiring two shots and I think the time interval is just two months after you take the first vaccine and there's the other vaccine that only requires one shot.
I haven't heard that there's a vaccine that requires to be vaccinated every six months.

Usually i do hear up about 2 vaccine shots. Recently there was really side effects been mentioning about on some vaccines.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-30/pfizer-covid-vaccine-links-to-heart-inflammation-information/100254282
https://www.livemint.com/news/india/modernas-covid-vaccine-gets-india-nod-from-efficacy-to-side-effects-all-you-need-to-know-11624968087515.html

This is the main reason on why i do still get hesitated on taking a shot.

[Genemind]

Vaccine doesn't make you immune of the virus, it only boosts your immune system to fight the virus. There are various news and takes on taking Covid shot. Some people are hesistant to have it due to it's possible long-term side effects since it is something new. Even with vaccine I wouldn't risk going to casinos since it is not guaranteed you will not be infected with Covid.

[Sithara007]

Usually i do hear up about 2 vaccine shots. Recently there was really side effects been mentioning about on some vaccines.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-30/pfizer-covid-vaccine-links-to-heart-inflammation-information/100254282
https://www.livemint.com/news/india/modernas-covid-vaccine-gets-india-nod-from-efficacy-to-side-effects-all-you-need-to-know-11624968087515.html

This is the main reason on why i do still get hesitated on taking a shot.

Obviously no one can force you to get vaccinated. If you opt against vaccination, then there will be no intimidation or compelling from the part of the authorities. But it really surprises me that people are still talking about side effects. Mass vaccination program was launched 7-8 months ago, and till now more than 3 billion doses of the vaccine have been administered. If the rumors about extreme side effects are true, then we should be hearing about millions of deaths and hospitalizations by now. That has not happened. The deaths directly attributed to adverse reaction from vaccination has been measured in double digits.