Fully vaccinated individuals now spared of masks in the casinos in Vegas

[traderethereum]

Vaccine doesn't make you immune of the virus, it only boosts your immune system to fight the virus. There are various news and takes on taking Covid shot. Some people are hesistant to have it due to it's possible long-term side effects since it is something new. Even with vaccine I wouldn't risk going to casinos since it is not guaranteed you will not be infected with Covid.

Hopefully, after you get the vaccine, your immune system can create a new immune system that can prevent the virus from infecting your body.
The side effects for every person will be different as they have a different immune system that protects their body.
And when the vaccine injects into your body, that will get an effect on your body.
Some people will get a fever, sleepy, does not have power and else.
Maybe that is because the vaccine is trying to combine their immune to your body.

[KTChampions]

You are mistaken, I would not like to start a discussion about vaccines here, but it has already been established that they are practically useless against rapidly mutating viruses, and even those who have been vaccinated can become infected and die. In addition, they have a short-term impact, if you are ready to get vaccinated every six months then I am not. And I am not ready to endure infringement of rights for medical reasons.

That's a different information that I've read and watched. But there's always the debate about vaccines and I may be wrong and you're right and I respect that. The vaccine are requiring two shots and I think the time interval is just two months after you take the first vaccine and there's the other vaccine that only requires one shot.
I haven't heard that there's a vaccine that requires to be vaccinated every six months.

The fact that we have different information is understandable - everyone (even the most supposedly competent specialists and organizations) change their minds very quickly these days. Even to remember about masks - WHO has changed its opinion several times about whether they are needed or not. As for vaccines, in my country the "vaccine" SputnikV was first presented as a vaccine providing lifelong immunity, then the period was gradually reduced and now it is officially announced that after some time (presumably 6 months) revaccination will be required.

[Fatunad]

Usually i do hear up about 2 vaccine shots. Recently there was really side effects been mentioning about on some vaccines.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-30/pfizer-covid-vaccine-links-to-heart-inflammation-information/100254282
https://www.livemint.com/news/india/modernas-covid-vaccine-gets-india-nod-from-efficacy-to-side-effects-all-you-need-to-know-11624968087515.html

This is the main reason on why i do still get hesitated on taking a shot.

Obviously no one can force you to get vaccinated. If you opt against vaccination, then there will be no intimidation or compelling from the part of the authorities. But it really surprises me that people are still talking about side effects. Mass vaccination program was launched 7-8 months ago, and till now more than 3 billion doses of the vaccine have been administered. If the rumors about extreme side effects are true, then we should be hearing about millions of deaths and hospitalizations by now. That has not happened. The deaths directly attributed to adverse reaction from vaccination has been measured in double digits.

You are actually on point on this one because it isnt really that much in big numbers if we do talk about into those people who had felt out nor even die with side effects of the vaccines that had been given into the market.
Im bit really paranoid on this one still and im not really that much of convinced because i do still hesitate because several months wont really be enough to be proven out that it is totally safe or im just really
that too fearful on taking a shot but if i do really make convince myself then i might really be taking one soon.I do really missed out those normal days on where you dont really need to wear up
the mask but not for now, im still in observation mode and its true that you arent forced but there are places in the world where the government making it compulsory.

[bryant.coleman]

The fact that we have different information is understandable - everyone (even the most supposedly competent specialists and organizations) change their minds very quickly these days. Even to remember about masks - WHO has changed its opinion several times about whether they are needed or not. As for vaccines, in my country the "vaccine" SputnikV was first presented as a vaccine providing lifelong immunity, then the period was gradually reduced and now it is officially announced that after some time (presumably 6 months) revaccination will be required.

There are two factors in play here. First of all, immunity provided by the vaccine may last somewhere between 12 to 60 months. So you need to get vaccinated after this period. Now it is up to the government to decide whether you need a booster shot after 12 months, or 60 months (or some duration in between). And now the second factor is the emergence of mutated strains. Current bunch of vaccines are showing limited efficacy against these strains. Some of the vaccine manufacturers have already created specific booster shots against the mutated strains. If you want full protection, then you need to take these shots.

[Twinkledoe]

The fact that we have different information is understandable - everyone (even the most supposedly competent specialists and organizations) change their minds very quickly these days. Even to remember about masks - WHO has changed its opinion several times about whether they are needed or not. As for vaccines, in my country the "vaccine" SputnikV was first presented as a vaccine providing lifelong immunity, then the period was gradually reduced and now it is officially announced that after some time (presumably 6 months) revaccination will be required.

There are two factors in play here. First of all, immunity provided by the vaccine may last somewhere between 12 to 60 months. So you need to get vaccinated after this period. Now it is up to the government to decide whether you need a booster shot after 12 months, or 60 months (or some duration in between). And now the second factor is the emergence of mutated strains. Current bunch of vaccines are showing limited efficacy against these strains. Some of the vaccine manufacturers have already created specific booster shots against the mutated strains. If you want full protection, then you need to take these shots.

But even if you are fully vaccinated, there's still a chance that you will get infected. We don't know the actual efficacy of these vaccines as we have now different strains. Just to be safe, even if you are fully vaccinated, it is still better to follow strict protocols like using face mask and not be lenient about it. There are some countries reporting that even fully inoculated individuals are not safe to this virus, just like Indonesia, some of their health workers ended up dead even being vaccinated. Or maybe, it also depends on the brand of the vaccine that you will be getting.

[decodx]

The fact that we have different information is understandable - everyone (even the most supposedly competent specialists and organizations) change their minds very quickly these days. Even to remember about masks - WHO has changed its opinion several times about whether they are needed or not. As for vaccines, in my country the "vaccine" SputnikV was first presented as a vaccine providing lifelong immunity, then the period was gradually reduced and now it is officially announced that after some time (presumably 6 months) revaccination will be required.

There are two factors in play here. First of all, immunity provided by the vaccine may last somewhere between 12 to 60 months. So you need to get vaccinated after this period. Now it is up to the government to decide whether you need a booster shot after 12 months, or 60 months (or some duration in between). And now the second factor is the emergence of mutated strains. Current bunch of vaccines are showing limited efficacy against these strains. Some of the vaccine manufacturers have already created specific booster shots against the mutated strains. If you want full protection, then you need to take these shots.

I don't fully understand this. Many sources claim that even vaccinated people can become infected and become carriers, since the vaccine works to help prevent symptomatic and severe disease.
But then why are vaccinated individuals exempt from wearing masks indoors?

[bhadz]

You are mistaken, I would not like to start a discussion about vaccines here, but it has already been established that they are practically useless against rapidly mutating viruses, and even those who have been vaccinated can become infected and die. In addition, they have a short-term impact, if you are ready to get vaccinated every six months then I am not. And I am not ready to endure infringement of rights for medical reasons.

That's a different information that I've read and watched. But there's always the debate about vaccines and I may be wrong and you're right and I respect that. The vaccine are requiring two shots and I think the time interval is just two months after you take the first vaccine and there's the other vaccine that only requires one shot.
I haven't heard that there's a vaccine that requires to be vaccinated every six months.

The fact that we have different information is understandable - everyone (even the most supposedly competent specialists and organizations) change their minds very quickly these days. Even to remember about masks - WHO has changed its opinion several times about whether they are needed or not. As for vaccines, in my country the "vaccine" SputnikV was first presented as a vaccine providing lifelong immunity, then the period was gradually reduced and now it is officially announced that after some time (presumably 6 months) revaccination will be required.

Those vaccines got different immunity and effect on the people that will take the shot. As long as there's going to be an immunity that will happen after the shot then it shall help to create herd immunity that's needed by every population by the world.
Some countries have already taken that immunity because most of their citizens were already vaccinated.

[freedomgo]

But even if you are fully vaccinated, there's still a chance that you will get infected.

There's no question with that, a person who understands how the vaccine work would know that he can get infected anytime, however, he will not feel ill because he already has the vaccine that will protect his body from reacting against the virus.

[DoublerHunter]

But even if you are fully vaccinated, there's still a chance that you will get infected.

There's no question with that, a person who understands how the vaccine work would know that he can get infected anytime, however, he will not feel ill because he already has the vaccine that will protect his body from reacting against the virus.

^ It will possible and this could be a carrier of the virus, so it means they should just wear a mask in public places.
I am not yet vaccinated so I am surely vulnerable to possible viruses and probably we should avoid the vaccinated people while we do not yet have to get a vaccine. Nevertheless, we need to adjust ourselves, those who are not yet vaccinated, don't go to the casino because people there who have been vaccinated did not wear a mask, let them take off their mask because their body is immune to the said virus.

[chaser15]

There's no question with that, a person who understands how the vaccine work would know that he can get infected anytime, however, he will not feel ill because he already has the vaccine that will protect his body from reacting against the virus.

That's what others don't get. They think vaccinated people will be fully protected from the virus not knowing that it will minimize instead the effect of having the virus unlike before when the vaccine isn't still out.

It's like enhancing our anti-bodies so that even we got infected with the virus, we do have an army inside to battle with it.

Even vaccinated, keep the habit of using other safety measures, such as wearing a facemask. Even without the pandemic happened, it's really a good habit to wear one, especially in public places.

[KTChampions]

The fact that we have different information is understandable - everyone (even the most supposedly competent specialists and organizations) change their minds very quickly these days. Even to remember about masks - WHO has changed its opinion several times about whether they are needed or not. As for vaccines, in my country the "vaccine" SputnikV was first presented as a vaccine providing lifelong immunity, then the period was gradually reduced and now it is officially announced that after some time (presumably 6 months) revaccination will be required.

There are two factors in play here. First of all, immunity provided by the vaccine may last somewhere between 12 to 60 months. So you need to get vaccinated after this period. Now it is up to the government to decide whether you need a booster shot after 12 months, or 60 months (or some duration in between). And now the second factor is the emergence of mutated strains. Current bunch of vaccines are showing limited efficacy against these strains. Some of the vaccine manufacturers have already created specific booster shots against the mutated strains. If you want full protection, then you need to take these shots.

I think that the presence of mutations makes vaccination meaningless. The situation is similar with influenza - vaccination is required for each strain. But given the riskiness of the covid vaccine and the potential side effects, I prefer to rely on natural immunity.

Those vaccines got different immunity and effect on the people that will take the shot. As long as there's going to be an immunity that will happen after the shot then it shall help to create herd immunity that's needed by every population by the world.
Some countries have already taken that immunity because most of their citizens were already vaccinated.

But nevertheless, infections occur even in those countries where the inhabitants are almost all vaccinated (Israel for example), and if we wait a few more generations of mutations, then I am sure the benefits of the vaccine will be generally zero.

[Sithara007]

I think that the presence of mutations makes vaccination meaningless. The situation is similar with influenza - vaccination is required for each strain. But given the riskiness of the covid vaccine and the potential side effects, I prefer to rely on natural immunity.

Even with the mutated strains, vaccinated people are better off. The efficacy may be lower when compared to the original strain, but still the vaccine will provide some sort of immunity. The data on COVID deaths recently released by the Indian government proves it. More than 90% of the deaths during the second wave occurred among those who refused to take vaccines. And Sputnik and Pfizer are in the final stages of creating special booster shots to take care of these strains. But then, it is up to the individual to chose between vaccine and natural immunity.

[KTChampions]

I think that the presence of mutations makes vaccination meaningless. The situation is similar with influenza - vaccination is required for each strain. But given the riskiness of the covid vaccine and the potential side effects, I prefer to rely on natural immunity.

Even with the mutated strains, vaccinated people are better off. The efficacy may be lower when compared to the original strain, but still the vaccine will provide some sort of immunity. The data on COVID deaths recently released by the Indian government proves it. More than 90% of the deaths during the second wave occurred among those who refused to take vaccines. And Sputnik and Pfizer are in the final stages of creating special booster shots to take care of these strains. But then, it is up to the individual to chose between vaccine and natural immunity.

Unfortunately, this choice becomes not at all voluntary. I see that in many countries there are places/services that can be accessed only upon presentation of documents on vaccination or documents on the presence of antibodies. In my country, the number of such places is growing rapidly, and from the point of view of the law, it all looks dubious, but who is interested in the law during a "pandemic".

[bhadz]

Those vaccines got different immunity and effect on the people that will take the shot. As long as there's going to be an immunity that will happen after the shot then it shall help to create herd immunity that's needed by every population by the world.
Some countries have already taken that immunity because most of their citizens were already vaccinated.

But nevertheless, infections occur even in those countries where the inhabitants are almost all vaccinated (Israel for example), and if we wait a few more generations of mutations, then I am sure the benefits of the vaccine will be generally zero.

There's already a herd immunity on Israel but you're right, there are still some cases but those are isolated and everyone can continue living peacefully and made their lives back again. It's all up to everyone how we're going to battle against this virus.
As long as you're doing something for yourself to avoid being infected, that should help you and sustain your health.

[Tumanggor]

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There's already a herd immunity on Israel but you're right, there are still some cases but those are isolated and everyone can continue living peacefully and made their lives back again. It's all up to everyone how we're going to battle against this virus.
As long as you're doing something for yourself to avoid being infected, that should help you and sustain your health.

in some countries, it seems herd immunity is being carried out openly
even the use of masks is no longer encouraged so the number has decreased drastically when compared to last year

I still force my friends and family to keep wearing masks wherever they are because we don't know when our bad luck will arrive
have been vaccinated or not, both have a great potential for exposure, so take care of yourself with a mask

[BuNga_cute]

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There's already a herd immunity on Israel but you're right, there are still some cases but those are isolated and everyone can continue living peacefully and made their lives back again. It's all up to everyone how we're going to battle against this virus.
As long as you're doing something for yourself to avoid being infected, that should help you and sustain your health.

in some countries, it seems herd immunity is being carried out openly
even the use of masks is no longer encouraged so the number has decreased drastically when compared to last year

I still force my friends and family to keep wearing masks wherever they are because we don't know when our bad luck will arrive
have been vaccinated or not, both have a great potential for exposure, so take care of yourself with a mask

I agree that we should still get used to continuing to use masks, because there is no guarantee of a vaccine that protects up to 100%.
In my environment there are still many people who are still infected even though they have received the vaccine. This proves that we must
do everything possible to avoid the corona virus. And it would be better if we don't just use masks, but don't forget to wash our hands often
and make sure we keep our distance from other people everywhere. After all, the pandemic hasn't ended yet so don't let our guard down,
we have to be careful in living life right now.

[KTChampions]

But nevertheless, infections occur even in those countries where the inhabitants are almost all vaccinated (Israel for example), and if we wait a few more generations of mutations, then I am sure the benefits of the vaccine will be generally zero.

There's already a herd immunity on Israel but you're right, there are still some cases but those are isolated and everyone can continue living peacefully and made their lives back again. It's all up to everyone how we're going to battle against this virus.
As long as you're doing something for yourself to avoid being infected, that should help you and sustain your health.

Theoretically (at least in history it has always been this way) with mutations, the virus loses its strength, so the longer we survive, the less chance of dying from infection. So, in fact, you do not need to invent anything new, you just need to monitor your immunity and wait. And it is natural not to neglect preventive measures and, if possible, limit your social life (reducing the likelihood of infection).

[Silberman]

There are also concerns that current vaccines are less able to protect against the variant, although the latest PHE figures suggest two doses of either vaccine are still highly effective against hospitalization: 96% for Pfizer/BioNTech and 92% for Oxford/AstraZeneca.

In simple words: if vaccinated, even if you catch Delta, the chances of ending up in the hospital are extremely low.

I'm not saying we shouldn't care though. As I said in my earlier post: I don't think going to public places, including casinos, is a good idea these days, even if you are fully vaccinated. But, imo, we should avoid unnecessary panic by all means.

This is good news, the whole selling point of getting vaccinated is not that we are not going to get the virus, that will happen to everyone eventually, but the fact the vaccine helps you to fight the virus and reduces the intensity of the symptoms and helps us to avoid getting hospitalized, however if this continues and poor countries are unable to get the vaccine how long it will take until a new strain appears that is immune to the vaccine and it is even more aggressive?

[Botnake]

There are also concerns that current vaccines are less able to protect against the variant, although the latest PHE figures suggest two doses of either vaccine are still highly effective against hospitalization: 96% for Pfizer/BioNTech and 92% for Oxford/AstraZeneca.

In simple words: if vaccinated, even if you catch Delta, the chances of ending up in the hospital are extremely low.

I'm not saying we shouldn't care though. As I said in my earlier post: I don't think going to public places, including casinos, is a good idea these days, even if you are fully vaccinated. But, imo, we should avoid unnecessary panic by all means.

This is good news, the whole selling point of getting vaccinated is not that we are not going to get the virus, that will happen to everyone eventually, but the fact the vaccine helps you to fight the virus and reduces the intensity of the symptoms and helps us to avoid getting hospitalized, however if this continues and poor countries are unable to get the vaccine how long it will take until a new strain appears that is immune to the vaccine and it is even more aggressive?

As the demand for the vaccine is for everyone, I'm sure it will become cheap that everyone could afford, especially the poor countries. Actually, they don't need to spend, if they have an ally with big countries, they will just have to wait and receive the donation and they'll get their people vaccinated, although not as fast as the rich countries but we can see the help coming.

[Lanatsa]

There are also concerns that current vaccines are less able to protect against the variant, although the latest PHE figures suggest two doses of either vaccine are still highly effective against hospitalization: 96% for Pfizer/BioNTech and 92% for Oxford/AstraZeneca.

In simple words: if vaccinated, even if you catch Delta, the chances of ending up in the hospital are extremely low.

I'm not saying we shouldn't care though. As I said in my earlier post: I don't think going to public places, including casinos, is a good idea these days, even if you are fully vaccinated. But, imo, we should avoid unnecessary panic by all means.

This is good news, the whole selling point of getting vaccinated is not that we are not going to get the virus, that will happen to everyone eventually, but the fact the vaccine helps you to fight the virus and reduces the intensity of the symptoms and helps us to avoid getting hospitalized, however if this continues and poor countries are unable to get the vaccine how long it will take until a new strain appears that is immune to the vaccine and it is even more aggressive?

As the demand for the vaccine is for everyone, I'm sure it will become cheap that everyone could afford, especially the poor countries. Actually, they don't need to spend, if they have an ally with big countries, they will just have to wait and receive the donation and they'll get their people vaccinated, although not as fast as the rich countries but we can see the help coming.

And that's whats currently happening in our country on where there are donations do came from allied countries and getting those vaccines but of course the government would really be spending up

something since they do have budget to do so but when budget depletes then that's the time they do took some loan on other countries or just simply getting donations from them.

Also, not all would really be getting the benefit of vaccination as this would only prioritize into those people who cant afford such shot which its really understandable and a pretty
normal thing to be done.