Fully vaccinated individuals now spared of masks in the casinos in Vegas

[Kelvinid]

There are also concerns that current vaccines are less able to protect against the variant, although the latest PHE figures suggest two doses of either vaccine are still highly effective against hospitalization: 96% for Pfizer/BioNTech and 92% for Oxford/AstraZeneca.

In simple words: if vaccinated, even if you catch Delta, the chances of ending up in the hospital are extremely low.

I'm not saying we shouldn't care though. As I said in my earlier post: I don't think going to public places, including casinos, is a good idea these days, even if you are fully vaccinated. But, imo, we should avoid unnecessary panic by all means.

This is good news, the whole selling point of getting vaccinated is not that we are not going to get the virus, that will happen to everyone eventually, but the fact the vaccine helps you to fight the virus and reduces the intensity of the symptoms and helps us to avoid getting hospitalized, however if this continues and poor countries are unable to get the vaccine how long it will take until a new strain appears that is immune to the vaccine and it is even more aggressive?

As the demand for the vaccine is for everyone, I'm sure it will become cheap that everyone could afford, especially the poor countries. Actually, they don't need to spend, if they have an ally with big countries, they will just have to wait and receive the donation and they'll get their people vaccinated, although not as fast as the rich countries but we can see the help coming.

And that's whats currently happening in our country on where there are donations do came from allied countries and getting those vaccines but of course the government would really be spending up

something since they do have budget to do so but when budget depletes then that's the time they do took some loan on other countries or just simply getting donations from them.

Also, not all would really be getting the benefit of vaccination as this would only prioritize into those people who cant afford such shot which its really understandable and a pretty
normal thing to be done.

But even we are already fully vaccinated, I'm not confident of roaming around going to casinos or anywhere because it might possible that you can be a carrier of the said virus and possibly it will be transferred to another person especially when we have kids in your house. Maybe we don't have to reach that point and we still need to be carefull until the situation will stop or until everyone get vaccinated.

[Botnake]

There are also concerns that current vaccines are less able to protect against the variant, although the latest PHE figures suggest two doses of either vaccine are still highly effective against hospitalization: 96% for Pfizer/BioNTech and 92% for Oxford/AstraZeneca.

In simple words: if vaccinated, even if you catch Delta, the chances of ending up in the hospital are extremely low.

I'm not saying we shouldn't care though. As I said in my earlier post: I don't think going to public places, including casinos, is a good idea these days, even if you are fully vaccinated. But, imo, we should avoid unnecessary panic by all means.

This is good news, the whole selling point of getting vaccinated is not that we are not going to get the virus, that will happen to everyone eventually, but the fact the vaccine helps you to fight the virus and reduces the intensity of the symptoms and helps us to avoid getting hospitalized, however if this continues and poor countries are unable to get the vaccine how long it will take until a new strain appears that is immune to the vaccine and it is even more aggressive?

As the demand for the vaccine is for everyone, I'm sure it will become cheap that everyone could afford, especially the poor countries. Actually, they don't need to spend, if they have an ally with big countries, they will just have to wait and receive the donation and they'll get their people vaccinated, although not as fast as the rich countries but we can see the help coming.

And that's whats currently happening in our country on where there are donations do came from allied countries and getting those vaccines but of course the government would really be spending up

something since they do have budget to do so but when budget depletes then that's the time they do took some loan on other countries or just simply getting donations from them.

Also, not all would really be getting the benefit of vaccination as this would only prioritize into those people who cant afford such shot which its really understandable and a pretty
normal thing to be done.

But even we are already fully vaccinated, I'm not confident of roaming around going to casinos or anywhere because it might possible that you can be a carrier of the said virus and possibly it will be transferred to another person especially when we have kids in your house. Maybe we don't have to reach that point and we still need to be carefull until the situation will stop or until everyone get vaccinated.

Very possible, and the government already sees that that's why it's only done in big countries as they have a high rate of vaccination already. They know that the only way to go back to normal life is to get everyone vaccinated, I wouldn't be surprised if they'll make it a law to make everyone complied with getting vaccinated.

[johhnyUA]

Vaccine passports can't be faked. And I don't think that someone will try to fake it, just to gain access to a casino without mask requirement.

Lol, you're joking? "fake vaccine cards" is the first in google search, lol.

Here some news links about it - https://www.modernhealthcare.com/safety-quality/yes-some-people-really-are-faking-their-covid-vaccine-cards
And Bloomberg: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-22/fake-covid-vaccine-cards-paper-format-open-to-outright-fraud

There is a lot of fake passports and even more people that don't want to vaccinate and ready to buy such shit. And yeah, i'm for 100 % sure that trough gamblers there also a lot of such people.

[Kasabus]

Vaccine passports can't be faked. And I don't think that someone will try to fake it, just to gain access to a casino without mask requirement.

Lol, you're joking? "fake vaccine cards" is the first in google search, lol.

Here some news links about it - https://www.modernhealthcare.com/safety-quality/yes-some-people-really-are-faking-their-covid-vaccine-cards
And Bloomberg: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-22/fake-covid-vaccine-cards-paper-format-open-to-outright-fraud

There is a lot of fake passports and even more people that don't want to vaccinate and ready to buy such shit. And yeah, i'm for 100 % sure that trough gamblers there also a lot of such people.

It's a suicide going to a place where you know people have a virus and you go there without protection, that's being stupid and irresponsible. I think this kind of violation needs to have serious sanctions if one is prevented to be roaming around with fake cards or certifications, they are just creating danger while the government is working hard to eliminate the problem.

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It's a suicide going to a place where you know people have a virus and you go there without protection, that's being stupid and irresponsible. I think this kind of violation needs to have serious sanctions if one is prevented to be roaming around with fake cards or certifications, they are just creating danger while the government is working hard to eliminate the problem.

That's right, their focus should be on finding, taking down, and punishing those who make fake passports or vaccination certificates.  They must be held accountable for the wrong they have done, they are no longer helping but they are adding to the problem.  That's why I avoid crowded places like the lottery booth and just put up with gambling on the smartphone.

[suzanne5223]

There are also concerns that current vaccines are less able to protect against the variant, although the latest PHE figures suggest two doses of either vaccine are still highly effective against hospitalization: 96% for Pfizer/BioNTech and 92% for Oxford/AstraZeneca.

In simple words: if vaccinated, even if you catch Delta, the chances of ending up in the hospital are extremely low.

I'm not saying we shouldn't care though. As I said in my earlier post: I don't think going to public places, including casinos, is a good idea these days, even if you are fully vaccinated. But, imo, we should avoid unnecessary panic by all means.

This is good news, the whole selling point of getting vaccinated is not that we are not going to get the virus, that will happen to everyone eventually, but the fact the vaccine helps you to fight the virus and reduces the intensity of the symptoms and helps us to avoid getting hospitalized, however if this continues and poor countries are unable to get the vaccine how long it will take until a new strain appears that is immune to the vaccine and it is even more aggressive?

It won't be nice for the Vegas casinos owner to rely only the vaccine alone to curb the spread of the virus because the people that are fully vaccinated have the immune to fight against the virus because some people will abuse the spare of mask using for the people that are fully vaccine.

About the poor countries, it will longer than we except before the vaccine will reach the poor countries but I am sure the WHO are using capacity to make sure some few in those countries get the vaccine.

[Sithara007]

About the poor countries, it will longer than we except before the vaccine will reach the poor countries but I am sure the WHO are using capacity to make sure some few in those countries get the vaccine.

The WHO is suffering from their own bad planning. According to their COVAX scheme, the developing nations were to receive hundreds of millions of doses of the vaccines by now. But the shipments were halted in March, when India banned vaccine exports due to rising number of infections in that country. The WHO didn't had any backup plan other than the manufacturers in India and therefore the poor nations had to procure the doses from other suppliers. Many of them opted for the useless Chinese vaccines, which proved to be another blunder.

[Betwrong]

There are also concerns that current vaccines are less able to protect against the variant, although the latest PHE figures suggest two doses of either vaccine are still highly effective against hospitalization: 96% for Pfizer/BioNTech and 92% for Oxford/AstraZeneca.

In simple words: if vaccinated, even if you catch Delta, the chances of ending up in the hospital are extremely low.

I'm not saying we shouldn't care though. As I said in my earlier post: I don't think going to public places, including casinos, is a good idea these days, even if you are fully vaccinated. But, imo, we should avoid unnecessary panic by all means.

This is good news, the whole selling point of getting vaccinated is not that we are not going to get the virus, that will happen to everyone eventually, but the fact the vaccine helps you to fight the virus and reduces the intensity of the symptoms and helps us to avoid getting hospitalized, however if this continues and poor countries are unable to get the vaccine how long it will take until a new strain appears that is immune to the vaccine and it is even more aggressive?

This is something we can't know for sure about, and that's why people running public places, including the casinos in Vegas, should be very cautious these days. It's better to stay closed for some time more, and thus lose money, than be earning money and contributing in the spread of the infection at the same time.

But we should always remember that in a greater degree it all depends on us, regular people, than on public places owners. We can simply not be going there regardless of whether it's allowed or not.

[goinmerry]

It's a suicide going to a place where you know people have a virus and you go there without protection, that's being stupid and irresponsible.

Then it's up to people now no matter how light the restriction that an establishment imposed.

Like in the topic, Vegas casinos now allowed people not to wear facemasks as long as they are vaccinated. It's a thing that Vegas reconsiders and it's up to people if they will follow or not.

We are still the ones who should decide what's good for us. If we think it's still necessary to wear a facemask then just do it.

[chaser15]

Many of them opted for the useless Chinese vaccines, which proved to be another blunder.

Sinovac is underrated. Just because it came from a Chinese Company, it means it's useless. Why it was used in other countries if it's useless?

Here in our country, the majority received a full dose of SinoVac and most are feeling well and don't feel any unusual within several weeks or months after being vaccinated.

And the vaccine alone won't save people's life against death caused by Covid-19. It requires a healthy lifestyle too.

[KTChampions]

Sinovac is underrated. Just because it came from a Chinese Company, it means it's useless. Why it was used in other countries if it's useless?

Here in our country, the majority received a full dose of SinoVac and most are feeling well and don't feel any unusual within several weeks or months after being vaccinated.

And the vaccine alone won't save people's life against death caused by Covid-19. It requires a healthy lifestyle too.

I heard that even according to the official data provided by the Chinese, their vaccine is less effective than Pfizer and Moderna. At the moment, no vaccine is ideal (and it cannot be ideal since there is no ideal vaccine against the virus), so as you rightly noted, vaccination does not cancel other measures aimed at increasing safety and immunity.

[agustina2]

Too much controversy and issues with Sinovac. Those irregularities also happened on other brands and during their early trials, it's expected to have some issues but as time is progressing, they are developing a much more good brand.

I was vaccinated fully with Sinovac just a few weeks ago as it was required to my office but it doesn't mean I will now trust my future to the vaccine. I didn't feel anything until now and even willing to undergo a yearly boost of the same vaccine.

Even you are vaccinated with Pfizer, Moderna, or any top brands over Sinovac, it depends on your body how to react to it.

[michellee]

Too much controversy and issues with Sinovac. Those irregularities also happened on other brands and during their early trials, it's expected to have some issues but as time is progressing, they are developing a much more good brand.

I was vaccinated fully with Sinovac just a few weeks ago as it was required to my office but it doesn't mean I will now trust my future to the vaccine. I didn't feel anything until now and even willing to undergo a yearly boost of the same vaccine.

Even you are vaccinated with Pfizer, Moderna, or any top brands over Sinovac, it depends on your body how to react to it.

I will say the same as you because as long as our body has a good immune system, that vaccine can help increase our immune to better. But no matter what the vaccine, after we got vaccinated, we still need to be careful because after vaccination, our body can get side effects that will be different from the other people.

I am not yet vaccinated and still waiting for the queue that I do not know when they call. But what I heard from people who already vaccinated, some of them feel sleepy but there is no significant effect. Some of my friends say they do not believe in the vaccine and do not want to get the vaccine. But if I get called for vaccination, I will come to the hospital and am ready for that. After I am vaccinated, I will not go to the crowd for at least 2 weeks to make sure that I am okay.

[suzanne5223]

About the poor countries, it will longer than we except before the vaccine will reach the poor countries but I am sure the WHO are using capacity to make sure some few in those countries get the vaccine.

The WHO is suffering from their own bad planning. According to their COVAX scheme, the developing nations were to receive hundreds of millions of doses of the vaccines by now. But the shipments were halted in March, when India banned vaccine exports due to rising number of infections in that country. The WHO didn't had any backup plan other than the manufacturers in India and therefore the poor nations had to procure the doses from other suppliers. Many of them opted for the useless Chinese vaccines, which proved to be another blunder.

We shouldn't say WHO planning was bad at all it not their fault and the last time I checked the COVID was something different that we have never experience before and no one have a backup plan for it before it happened.
Because of the issue that may increase the chances of people getting the virus is why I believe Vegas casino regulators and owners are making mistakes.

[RokokGudangGaram]

About the poor countries, it will longer than we except before the vaccine will reach the poor countries but I am sure the WHO are using capacity to make sure some few in those countries get the vaccine.

The WHO is suffering from their own bad planning. According to their COVAX scheme, the developing nations were to receive hundreds of millions of doses of the vaccines by now. But the shipments were halted in March, when India banned vaccine exports due to rising number of infections in that country. The WHO didn't had any backup plan other than the manufacturers in India and therefore the poor nations had to procure the doses from other suppliers. Many of them opted for the useless Chinese vaccines, which proved to be another blunder.

We shouldn't say WHO planning was bad at all it not their fault and the last time I checked the COVID was something different that we have never experience before and no one have a backup plan for it before it happened.
Because of the issue that may increase the chances of people getting the virus is why I believe Vegas casino regulators and owners are making mistakes.

Foremost, I think that this not yet the time to be complacent just because of the availability of the vaccine. Protocols must be still in place and be observed by everyone to guarantee safety. And regarding with the plans and strategies of WHO, it is understandable that this pandemic has been one of a hell fight but given the time spent now battling it, much comprehensive plans and feasible results must be accounted for.

[Pamadar]

About the poor countries, it will longer than we except before the vaccine will reach the poor countries but I am sure the WHO are using capacity to make sure some few in those countries get the vaccine.

The WHO is suffering from their own bad planning. According to their COVAX scheme, the developing nations were to receive hundreds of millions of doses of the vaccines by now. But the shipments were halted in March, when India banned vaccine exports due to rising number of infections in that country. The WHO didn't had any backup plan other than the manufacturers in India and therefore the poor nations had to procure the doses from other suppliers. Many of them opted for the useless Chinese vaccines, which proved to be another blunder.

We shouldn't say WHO planning was bad at all it not their fault and the last time I checked the COVID was something different that we have never experience before and no one have a backup plan for it before it happened.
Because of the issue that may increase the chances of people getting the virus is why I believe Vegas casino regulators and owners are making mistakes.

They are doing this to attract those annoyed people with this kind of protocols,

we can't  deny the fact  that there are people who waned to feel free, those are the targets mostly of this action from the owners of this casinos,   people who wanted to play like in a normal ways of gambling, those gamblers  will go there and start enjoying without those annoying safety health protocols,  believing that with the full those of vaccines they are already immune with this virus and they can act normally.

[mv1986]

About the poor countries, it will longer than we except before the vaccine will reach the poor countries but I am sure the WHO are using capacity to make sure some few in those countries get the vaccine.

The WHO is suffering from their own bad planning. According to their COVAX scheme, the developing nations were to receive hundreds of millions of doses of the vaccines by now. But the shipments were halted in March, when India banned vaccine exports due to rising number of infections in that country. The WHO didn't had any backup plan other than the manufacturers in India and therefore the poor nations had to procure the doses from other suppliers. Many of them opted for the useless Chinese vaccines, which proved to be another blunder.

We shouldn't say WHO planning was bad at all it not their fault and the last time I checked the COVID was something different that we have never experience before and no one have a backup plan for it before it happened.
Because of the issue that may increase the chances of people getting the virus is why I believe Vegas casino regulators and owners are making mistakes.

They are doing this to attract those annoyed people with this kind of protocols,

we can't  deny the fact  that there are people who waned to feel free, those are the targets mostly of this action from the owners of this casinos,   people who wanted to play like in a normal ways of gambling, those gamblers  will go there and start enjoying without those annoying safety health protocols,  believing that with the full those of vaccines they are already immune with this virus and they can act normally.

Difficult story to me if you see the numbers exploding in Great Britain and the delta variant even killing people who were fully vaccinated, I think a certain level of caution is still important. The incidence in Great Britain is above 200 again, I think 216. Considering that Germany's is below 5, that's concerning difference if you ask me.

[geegaw]

Too much controversy and issues with Sinovac. Those irregularities also happened on other brands and during their early trials, it's expected to have some issues but as time is progressing, they are developing a much more good brand.

I was vaccinated fully with Sinovac just a few weeks ago as it was required to my office but it doesn't mean I will now trust my future to the vaccine. I didn't feel anything until now and even willing to undergo a yearly boost of the same vaccine.

Even you are vaccinated with Pfizer, Moderna, or any top brands over Sinovac, it depends on your body how to react to it.

I will say the same as you because as long as our body has a good immune system, that vaccine can help increase our immune to better. But no matter what the vaccine, after we got vaccinated, we still need to be careful because after vaccination, our body can get side effects that will be different from the other people.

I am not yet vaccinated and still waiting for the queue that I do not know when they call. But what I heard from people who already vaccinated, some of them feel sleepy but there is no significant effect. Some of my friends say they do not believe in the vaccine and do not want to get the vaccine. But if I get called for vaccination, I will come to the hospital and am ready for that. After I am vaccinated, I will not go to the crowd for at least 2 weeks to make sure that I am okay.

Quite a few side effects can occur such as elevated body temperature during the first few days of vaccination and besides such symptoms, the vaccinated site will also swell, these are the cases I see in my country. The effect and immunity are also not perfect and sometimes vaccinated people become the mediators of the spread, considering the conjecture associated with such news, it is risky to encourage individuals not to wear masks, wearing a mask can be uncomfortable in communication but it is our protection and awareness with others

[DoublerHunter]

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we can't  deny the fact  that there are people who waned to feel free, those are the targets mostly of this action from the owners of this casinos,   people who wanted to play like in a normal ways of gambling, those gamblers  will go there and start enjoying without those annoying safety health protocols,  believing that with the full those of vaccines they are already immune with this virus and they can act normally.

^ Then they should accept that we are now in the new normal stage, there is nothing we can do to come back to the normal situation and everyone now adopt this protocol for our own safety. Even though you are vaccinated, yet we don't have 100% sure that you are totally immune, the chances of infecting the virus probably 50% and there is no full assurance that you are safe. We should do what is the right thing not for temporary happiness. As long as you can, always wear at least a facemask in all public places to avoid the virus keep spread if we want to have the freedom to go outside.

[bhadz]

Difficult story to me if you see the numbers exploding in Great Britain and the delta variant even killing people who were fully vaccinated, I think a certain level of caution is still important. The incidence in Great Britain is above 200 again, I think 216. Considering that Germany's is below 5, that's concerning difference if you ask me.

This is new news to me. I know that there's now a new variant that's more contagious than the first ones and this makes it important to just follow such protocols when people from those countries with various cases before going outside.
If those vaccinated people are also dying even if they're fully vaccinated, that's scary to think that there's a need to manufacture a better vaccine that has to be manufactured and made a case study as soon as possible.