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May 21, 2021, 09:36:12 PM
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Because online gambling is not a type of trading. That's a game. Entertainment that you pay for getting entertained. I read somewhere it is statistically proven that only one in 8 gamblers wins on average (online, offline, casinos, etc.) so it's natural that arguments that say online gambling is trash more than those who support it.

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May 21, 2021, 09:37:52 PM
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It is only natural that losers are always being mentioned rather than the winners. There is a thread here about a losers in gambling where they lose a lot of money in gambling. When you talk about gambling, all chance of winning are small compared to losing. Gambling should not be a main solution for tripling your money as it also comes in great risk of losing it all. That is the motive of anti gambling campaign which is to stop many people from losing too much money.

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May 21, 2021, 10:41:46 PM
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It is only natural that losers are always being mentioned rather than the winners. There is a thread here about a losers in gambling where they lose a lot of money in gambling. When you talk about gambling, all chance of winning are small compared to losing. Gambling should not be a main solution for tripling your money as it also comes in great risk of losing it all. That is the motive of anti gambling campaign which is to stop many people from losing too much money.

Enlighten those gamblers who already exceeded from their limitations, more people are losing money with uncontrolled addictions,
gamblers who can't avoid to continue playing even the amount of money that they'll spending is no longer dedicated to thier gambling activities.

The chance of losing is far higher than winning but gamblers will continue to take the risk in hope that they'll gonna hit the jackpot
and it will change everything.

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May 22, 2021, 03:54:49 AM
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I actually think that this is not necessarily the problem.

The problem with media coverage of gambling is that it's either wildly positive or wildly negative. There are substantial amounts of campaigns that are revolved around glorifying certain aspects of gambling (just think about your national lottery ads on TV).

There are also as you rightfully mentioned an obscene amount of negative coverage. Overall, the media landscape is just sensationalist without reflecting the realities of gambling - it is a form of entertainment that comes with a -EV, and the vast majority of people will never win big or lose big.
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May 22, 2021, 08:55:00 AM
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Because online gambling is not a type of trading. That's a game. Entertainment that you pay for getting entertained. I read somewhere it is statistically proven that only one in 8 gamblers wins on average (online, offline, casinos, etc.) so it's natural that arguments that say online gambling is trash more than those who support it.
Yes, gambling is a game that can entertain people who involve. But most people forget to stop when they already losses some money instead will trying to recover their losses. A few people can win from gambling and make money, but that still attract more people to test their luck. We should treat gambling as what it is and not trying to make money from gambling because the result will be not good for us. We can use other sources of income to make money than from gambling.

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May 22, 2021, 10:11:56 AM
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I actually think that this is not necessarily the problem.

The problem with media coverage of gambling is that it's either wildly positive or wildly negative. There are substantial amounts of campaigns that are revolved around glorifying certain aspects of gambling (just think about your national lottery ads on TV).

There are also as you rightfully mentioned an obscene amount of negative coverage. Overall, the media landscape is just sensationalist without reflecting the realities of gambling - it is a form of entertainment that comes with a -EV, and the vast majority of people will never win big or lose big.

As you say, the vast majority of people are losing or barely breaking even with a few big wins. The losers are going to be incredibly frustrated and angry that they lost hard earned money, making them very likely to shout about it to anyone who will listen. They will be leaving negative reviews as revenge, even though all the odds were clearly laid out if they bothered to read the fine print of the terms and conditions. The winners are happy but will be drowned out and people who made nothing have little incentive to write positive reviews about it either.


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May 22, 2021, 12:25:28 PM
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Even in the past years when you say gambling people are really negative towards it because of its risk which is true, many people playing it don't admit to their loved ones and friends that they are in a casino and burning their fortunes away because many are negative and instead of a profit they will think that all your money went to a lost

And there are people that become addicted to it that is why many are pretty negative towards gambling I think that is why some gambling facilities and establishments shutdown and gambling become a ban in other countries, I think this is not new and there's no motive needed people to tend to just give all negative sides to gambling and not the positive ones.
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May 22, 2021, 02:50:05 PM
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Why would it affect you though? You are just a player and most anti-gambling campaigns are targeted mostly on the gambling businesses that profits out of the "irresponsible" gamblers that you are saying. The taxes that the gambling industry is heavily written off so I don't think that we are going to be happy about that too.
Even if he's just a player it could still potentially affect him because just like what OP said the media focuses on the losers and it's only going to encourage the government to do something about it. While that's true the government are making money off gambling they will still look for ways to limit gambling when possible. Iirc Australia has one of the biggest average loss per gambler and they're starting to curb gambling by making it illegal.
Furthermore anti-gambling campaigns turn the common opinion of the society against gamblers. People start seeing them in a wrong way, as all gamblers were sick, irresponsible, mentally ill or unstable, because that is the portrait of gamblers exhibited in propagandas, movies, soap operas, news... When we see negative representations of gamblers' behavior on those campaigns, we never see an attached disclosure message pointing out that only a small percentage of total gamblers are actually problem gamblers. They represent the situation luring the public to believe every gamblers are addicted and impulsive individuals.

So it's accurate to suppose gamblers feel offended by such campaigns.
It is just a stereotype, the problem is that many people believe in stereotypes since they never take the time to think for themselves and see if what they are seeing in the media is true or not, what I find funny is how people want to prohibit gambling just because a very small amount of people are addicted to it but if we were to suggest to ban social media because a great deal of people area addicted to it and it has huge negative effects on society they will take a look at us as if we were crazy, when something like that will in fact be of a bigger benefit than to prohibit gambling.
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May 22, 2021, 02:59:45 PM
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Even in the past years when you say gambling people are really negative towards it because of its risk which is true, many people playing it don't admit to their loved ones and friends that they are in a casino and burning their fortunes away because many are negative and instead of a profit they will think that all your money went to a lost

And there are people that become addicted to it that is why many are pretty negative towards gambling I think that is why some gambling facilities and establishments shutdown and gambling become a ban in other countries, I think this is not new and there's no motive needed people to tend to just give all negative sides to gambling and not the positive ones.

And it's true that people also lose money in gambling. Obviously it's not good for people to gamble but if you have the money to spend, it's not going to be bad for you.

This could be the reason why some countries that made gambling illegal just set casinos far from the cities or just put the casinos where they know people who are going there has money to spend. Las Vegas or Macau for instance, you wouldn't be going to these places if you don't have money to spend.

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May 22, 2021, 04:22:35 PM
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Even in the past years when you say gambling people are really negative towards it because of its risk which is true, many people playing it don't admit to their loved ones and friends that they are in a casino and burning their fortunes away because many are negative and instead of a profit they will think that all your money went to a lost

And there are people that become addicted to it that is why many are pretty negative towards gambling I think that is why some gambling facilities and establishments shutdown and gambling become a ban in other countries, I think this is not new and there's no motive needed people to tend to just give all negative sides to gambling and not the positive ones.

And it's true that people also lose money in gambling. Obviously it's not good for people to gamble but if you have the money to spend, it's not going to be bad for you.

This could be the reason why some countries that made gambling illegal just set casinos far from the cities or just put the casinos where they know people who are going there has money to spend. Las Vegas or Macau for instance, you wouldn't be going to these places if you don't have money to spend.

Apparently, I think you are right Casino's in different countries tend to be placed far from establishments that are crowded and mostly far from schools because students will surely be going into it, but what about if it is online gambling? even though some gambling casinos are surely prohibited and establish in far places there is online gambling that is still accessible and crypto gambling is surely anonymous most of the time, I think in different countries that have ban gambling includes online casinos as well.
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May 22, 2021, 04:49:27 PM
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Everywhere I look, all I see are negative comments made about money lost gambling. Mental illness associated with gambling and anything that can illustrate gambling in a negative light.

As someone who considers themselves to be a profitable gambler. The trend of covering only the negative side of the industry puzzles me.

Why is there never mention of the winners.

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I think the sad truth is, people who lose big money gambling. Are the same people who would lose big money investing in the stock market. Some demographics simply don't make good financial decisions. There are always big losers and big winners in every industry. And don't understand why gambling is being painted in a light where only the big losers are acknowledged.

Fantasy sports is illegal in my US state. This may deprive me of options and opportunities to make money and profit.

To me there is a question of whether the media's negative coverage of gambling is intended to protect people who make bad gambling or investment decisions. Or is it intended to deprive people like me of opportunities to make money.

The thing is

1. Most of the people who gamble lose their money
2. Gamblers who win money inspire others but then those inspired people gamble and lose money because (see no. 1)

Also, money don't last forever. Those who win money gamble again and lose it or spend it lavishly.
There are many other factors which contribute to the negative fame of gambling.


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May 22, 2021, 05:59:34 PM
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That will never stop. There will always be those articles and reminders that people shouldn't gamble because it only brings disaster to everyone's lives. It's also always giving that reason about mental sickness and OP got it right. But somehow, there's also basis for having that reason because some gamblers that have been found to be addicted needs to seek and have a mental help. I understand that they're too mindful to not everyone fall into addiction but they should also be transparent what it can do to the economy and a few professional gamblers.
Gambling is looked upon as something one would feel hesitant telling others, that is the kind of image that has been built around gambling. Some religions even consider gambling a sin. I won't argue someone's religion but in my opinion, I don't see any problem with people spending a few bucks for their entertainment. You look at any form of entertainment and it will usually come at a cost and that's how gambling should be seen.

There are people who might be addicted to gambling but that can happen with almost every entertainment means. For example if you are drinking too much you will get addicted to it and someone playing games for entertainment might spend too much money buying the game items and that's also a kind of addiction.
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May 22, 2021, 06:28:38 PM
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Even in the past years when you say gambling people are really negative towards it because of its risk which is true, many people playing it don't admit to their loved ones and friends that they are in a casino and burning their fortunes away because many are negative and instead of a profit they will think that all your money went to a lost

And there are people that become addicted to it that is why many are pretty negative towards gambling I think that is why some gambling facilities and establishments shutdown and gambling become a ban in other countries, I think this is not new and there's no motive needed people to tend to just give all negative sides to gambling and not the positive ones.
According to my own opinion  there's no behind motive  in anti the gambling campaign. I guess those people behind the marketing field have their own study, explanation and reason why there's no positive campaign regarding the gambling. Maybe it's because the government since it's true that gambling affect the life of the people negatively. Because they got high taxes from gambling they just let them operate but no good campaign.
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May 22, 2021, 08:34:30 PM
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That will never stop. There will always be those articles and reminders that people shouldn't gamble because it only brings disaster to everyone's lives. It's also always giving that reason about mental sickness and OP got it right. But somehow, there's also basis for having that reason because some gamblers that have been found to be addicted needs to seek and have a mental help. I understand that they're too mindful to not everyone fall into addiction but they should also be transparent what it can do to the economy and a few professional gamblers.
Gambling is looked upon as something one would feel hesitant telling others, that is the kind of image that has been built around gambling. Some religions even consider gambling a sin. I won't argue someone's religion but in my opinion, I don't see any problem with people spending a few bucks for their entertainment. You look at any form of entertainment and it will usually come at a cost and that's how gambling should be seen.

There are people who might be addicted to gambling but that can happen with almost every entertainment means. For example if you are drinking too much you will get addicted to it and someone playing games for entertainment might spend too much money buying the game items and that's also a kind of addiction.
I think they're going against it when someone goes more than what they can afford and losses it with the effect of being addicted. There's no need to argue with anyone's belief, we respect what they think and as well as respects us in return. I do get the point that addiction comes in various forms and not in gambling, this is very true but they're more impactful in gambling and that's why all eyes are on it and they're looking at it as a habit that's not acceptable.

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May 22, 2021, 08:44:24 PM
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It was directed to everyone who's primarily seeking to gamble for gains. Because they will have this negative connotation that it's very easy to earn huge racks of cash when you gamble which is not entirely true. It's for people who are aware that they do not have self-control, so they don't go bankrupt over a very stupid decision such as gambling all their life savings away.
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May 22, 2021, 08:47:37 PM
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It is simply that the things that come up in my mind why there's an anti-gambling campaign, just because they don't want to increase the number of those gambling addicts that may possible when they come at the stage of being addicted, they will most likely commit a crime. They know that not all players will become a winner and petty those loser chasing money through gambling.

So I guess, there's no motive why there's an organization like this, I think they have an insight into how will it worst if everyone relies on gambling and causing money, they will never realize that gambling is just for entertainment purposes only.

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May 22, 2021, 08:52:37 PM
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It was directed to everyone who's primarily seeking to gamble for gains. Because they will have this negative connotation that it's very easy to earn huge racks of cash when you gamble which is not entirely true. It's for people who are aware that they do not have self-control, so they don't go bankrupt over a very stupid decision such as gambling all their life savings away.
They're making that negative claims so that those who are experiencing addiction and to those who wants to try it out will just stopped after seeing those campaigns. It's actually unfair for those who are having good terms in gambling and knows what they does.
But there really are those people that cannot be helped and has to be reminded through several materials like these campaigns.

 
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May 22, 2021, 08:57:36 PM
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So I guess, there's no motive why there's an organization like this, I think they have an insight into how will it worst if everyone relies on gambling and causing money, they will never realize that gambling is just for entertainment purposes only.
If that is their true aim, I think their effort are still justified because apart from legalizing gambling, they want gamblers to have the responsibility for that gambling. Most gamblers find it difficult to have good self-control so many of them will run into problem eventually. I think gambling will not always be profitable and it doesn't deserve to be the main source of income for every player.

But there really are those people that cannot be helped and has to be reminded through several materials like these campaigns.
They are included in the category of heavy addict who can no longer control themselve in gambling. In some case, heavy addict are also advised to consult a specialist to reduce their addiction so that they can control and even stop gambling.

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May 22, 2021, 09:18:33 PM
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But there really are those people that cannot be helped and has to be reminded through several materials like these campaigns.
They are included in the category of heavy addict who can no longer control themselve in gambling. In some case, heavy addict are also advised to consult a specialist to reduce their addiction so that they can control and even stop gambling.
Yes and those campaigns are really for them but since it's in public, even those people who are not gamblers will also extract the message. And just as the idea that they are bringing with that warning.
Then those people will have to think of it and will realize that they should do as what the campaign says.

 
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May 23, 2021, 02:36:19 AM
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It was directed to everyone who's primarily seeking to gamble for gains. Because they will have this negative connotation that it's very easy to earn huge racks of cash when you gamble which is not entirely true. It's for people who are aware that they do not have self-control, so they don't go bankrupt over a very stupid decision such as gambling all their life savings away.
I think that campaign is for every person, including those who already gamble and people who want to start gambling. It will remind them about the danger of playing gambling and what they can get from gambling. If more people can know about that campaign and they can think about the danger, maybe they will not try to involve in gambling instead stay away from gambling and search for other ways to make money.

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