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June 14, 2021, 07:35:21 AM
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Everywhere I look, all I see are negative comments made about money lost gambling. Mental illness associated with gambling and anything that can illustrate gambling in a negative light.

As someone who considers themselves to be a profitable gambler. The trend of covering only the negative side of the industry puzzles me.

Why is there never mention of the winners.

You know why? Because, only 13-15% of the gamblers win on a daily basis as compared to the remaining 85% lose often.

Gambling, just like any addiction, is associated with countless of risks especially if one lacks the necessary discipline to prevent them from going down that rabbit hole. The negative effects of gambling has caused a disruption in the society where people try to discuss the problems as much as possible to prevent other people from going down this hill.

That is the reason on why most people talk about the negative effects of gambling due to the number of people who experience loss.
The negative effect from gambling will be bigger than the positive, so the anti-gambling campaign is everywhere, especially when gambling is allowed in that country. That can warn people how dangerous gambling, especially if they can not control themselves.

But it is not easy to stop people from playing gambling, especially if gambling is already rooted in society. It needs support from the government, all elements in society, and all people who always tell addicted people to reduce their time in playing gambling. People need to help the addicted people in gambling to solve their addiction.

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June 14, 2021, 07:53:27 AM
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You know why? Because, only 13-15% of the gamblers win on a daily basis as compared to the remaining 85% lose often.
Thats true, many people are losing their money compared to gamblers who are winning each day. Thats why there are anti gambling campaign to show the negative sides of engaging yourself in gambling and to prevent ourselves to lose our money.

Just like other addiction's warning it has a bad effect especially if you have no control. But its fine to gamble as long as you can set limit and have discipline, but the problem is most gamblers are lacking of this mindset. Though there are few gamblers who succeed in gambling as their profession, but still, not everyone can do it.

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June 14, 2021, 02:02:23 PM
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You know why? Because, only 13-15% of the gamblers win on a daily basis as compared to the remaining 85% lose often.
Thats true, many people are losing their money compared to gamblers who are winning each day. Thats why there are anti gambling campaign to show the negative sides of engaging yourself in gambling and to prevent ourselves to lose our money.

Just like other addiction's warning it has a bad effect especially if you have no control. But its fine to gamble as long as you can set limit and have discipline, but the problem is most gamblers are lacking of this mindset. Though there are few gamblers who succeed in gambling as their profession, but still, not everyone can do it.

I have to say even 13% gamblers winning daily is a far-fetched number for anyone to believe in, I win some days and lose most days, so how can anyone consistently win? Even the house does not always lose, and can lose much more than win in a normal occasion unless you allow time to play out over the years.

Just face the facts. You lose eventually in gambling. The point is to have fun. Finito.

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June 14, 2021, 03:34:03 PM
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Everywhere I look, all I see are negative comments made about money lost gambling. Mental illness associated with gambling and anything that can illustrate gambling in a negative light.

As someone who considers themselves to be a profitable gambler. The trend of covering only the negative side of the industry puzzles me.

Why is there never mention of the winners.

You know why? Because, only 13-15% of the gamblers win on a daily basis as compared to the remaining 85% lose often.

Gambling, just like any addiction, is associated with countless of risks especially if one lacks the necessary discipline to prevent them from going down that rabbit hole. The negative effects of gambling has caused a disruption in the society where people try to discuss the problems as much as possible to prevent other people from going down this hill.

That is the reason on why most people talk about the negative effects of gambling due to the number of people who experience loss.

Let me add this as well.

Gambling positive effects are much lesser compare to its negative effects to people, that's why we can't really blame them to expose the reality about gambling, because that's what is really is. Obviously, if you see people talking about it like they hate it for death, that'll only means they experienced bad things about it and vice versa.

And the government and other concern citizens being aware about this launched different programs to help people know what they are after in gambling so that they are not going to be surprise or shock anymore when they experience worst things in gambling.

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June 14, 2021, 03:59:38 PM
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I am very happy for the people who managed to win the jackpot by gambling.  Once my girlfriend won a 4k TV.  I am very happy for her! 

However, it should be noted that the probability of losing in a gambling game is greater than the probability of winning.  Gambling is a zero-sum game. 

This is the difference between gambling and investing in stocks.  Due to inflation, the average price of shares in the stock market is constantly growing. 

Therefore, advertising of gambling is prohibited in many countries.

 
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June 16, 2021, 06:53:56 PM
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I have to say even 13% gamblers winning daily is a far-fetched number for anyone to believe in, I win some days and lose most days, so how can anyone consistently win? Even the house does not always lose, and can lose much more than win in a normal occasion unless you allow time to play out over the years.

Just face the facts. You lose eventually in gambling. The point is to have fun. Finito.
It will be interesting to see where that number came up however as long as those were not the same people every day then it could match the results we see, some people will have some positive sessions despite the house edge but we know that over the long term it is impossible to win except for an incredibly and exceptional small number of gamblers, so the rest of us need to accept the truth and gamble just for fun, and if we cannot do that then to stop gambling is the only choice.
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June 16, 2021, 08:28:44 PM
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I am very happy for the people who managed to win the jackpot by gambling.  Once my girlfriend won a 4k TV.  I am very happy for her
I am part of those people that criticize gambling because it's never my thing, I have always find myself regretting after placing wrong bets, to me hearing that someone wins large amount of money seems like an delusional stories and myths, I lost big accumulated sum of money during the time of my gambling career, I discovered Immediately that it wasn't my thing so I have to fucking quit.
 
This is the difference between gambling and investing in stocks.  Due to inflation, the average price of shares in the stock market is constantly growing. 
I didn't understand why op make this statement, saying losers in gambling are liable to loss in stock market, this statement is not ethical I doubt him for saying that, stock and gambling is quitely a different thing.
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June 16, 2021, 09:15:54 PM
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Over the years, gambling has attached himself with a reputation that makes even gamblers look immoral in the sights of men. This is mostly due to the unregulated nature of the trade back  then, as most gambling where done without any clear supervision or wasn't conducted with fairness. Now, the government came into play and gambling became very legal and a taxable aspect of the society for which national and state revenue are generated for the benefit of a nation. Gambling is never a bad thing, its a willing full act reserved for the matured minds and financially capable. Hence, fighting a thing born out of freewill is just an abuse of the right to free expression. Gambling is here to stay but in accordance with the law.

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June 16, 2021, 09:46:34 PM
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This is the difference between gambling and investing in stocks.  Due to inflation, the average price of shares in the stock market is constantly growing. 
I didn't understand why op make this statement, saying losers in gambling are liable to loss in stock market, this statement is not ethical I doubt him for saying that, stock and gambling is quitely a different thing.
^ Probably OP means that in gambling, not all become to win there should be a loser. Trading and gambling are totally different but it seems like they are like a coin, two different faces but still, it is a coin and that is how gambling and trading are, they are both capable of managings financial your fund. On the other side, governments always protect their people from possible addiction that probably can't manage themselves. That is why gambling has different regulations depending on which country you are in. There will be always an anti-gambling.
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June 16, 2021, 10:26:15 PM
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I am very happy for the people who managed to win the jackpot by gambling.  Once my girlfriend won a 4k TV.  I am very happy for her! 

However, it should be noted that the probability of losing in a gambling game is greater than the probability of winning.  Gambling is a zero-sum game. 

This is the difference between gambling and investing in stocks.  Due to inflation, the average price of shares in the stock market is constantly growing. 

Therefore, advertising of gambling is prohibited in many countries.
They do it to stop the other people to experience gambling addiction because they cannot control it anymore and they don't want others to experience it just as the others who didn't managed themselves.
Good for those who did tried it for the first time and they got the beginners and win some prizes and amount just like your girlfriend. But these governments are looking for the long term effect of it which they have concluded to only bring bad effects.

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June 16, 2021, 11:49:00 PM
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Ease of gambling would be the biggest risk, in comparison to the compulsion to do anything.   You can get an Endorphins rush from exercising, its a healthy reaction most of the time but it is also possible to get addicted to a feeling and then exercise too much and amazingly its possible to die that way from pushing yourself too far.  That would be a rare way to end up in a bad way most of the time because most people get tired out exercising, it has a natural control to the activity that discourages the over use of that endorphin release.
   Gambling is possible to take very far very easily because the nature of our money lets people borrow, some parts of the world limit borrowing as its outlawed or you must travel far away to access the gambling but most of the world you can overspend and get into trouble easily, thats the main reason gambling is seen so negatively.    I think over eating is another very easy activity, our modern culture and productive society made food and calories cheap and convenient, now it can become an addiction.  All of these activities mentioned including gambling are fine if done on a set basis, thats my advise to most people come back another day dont expect to always win every session it is best to step away and give luck another try another day.

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June 17, 2021, 02:55:14 AM
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The negative effect from gambling will be bigger than the positive, so the anti-gambling campaign is everywhere, especially when gambling is allowed in that country. That can warn people how dangerous gambling, especially if they can not control themselves.


I partially agree with this statement. Have you noticed that there are so many people saying that we have lost that much amount in gambling but there are very few who say that we won in gambling. Is that the winning ratio is low in gambling or people just don't tell when they are winning. I can't believe that 90% of the gamblers only losing and yet the gambling users never get less.

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June 17, 2021, 03:18:09 AM
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The negative effect from gambling will be bigger than the positive, so the anti-gambling campaign is everywhere, especially when gambling is allowed in that country. That can warn people how dangerous gambling, especially if they can not control themselves.


I partially agree with this statement. Have you noticed that there are so many people saying that we have lost that much amount in gambling but there are very few who say that we won in gambling. Is that the winning ratio is low in gambling or people just don't tell when they are winning. I can't believe that 90% of the gamblers only losing and yet the gambling users never get less.
Because the thrill and excitement makes the gamblers stays in playing , remember how much adrenaline gambling activities gives us and that's what we tend to enjoy.

if gambling is boring then for sure there will be no addicted one till now.

I am very happy for the people who managed to win the jackpot by gambling.  Once my girlfriend won a 4k TV.  I am very happy for her! 
Wow 4k? that's not bad to win in single game, I remember winning in one popular gambling here amounting 6k but sad to say i did not stop and in the end ? losses is what i got.
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However, it should be noted that the probability of losing in a gambling game is greater than the probability of winning.  Gambling is a zero-sum game. 

This is the difference between gambling and investing in stocks.  Due to inflation, the average price of shares in the stock market is constantly growing. 

Therefore, advertising of gambling is prohibited in many countries.
Gamble the amount that excess from your daily funds and not the amount that is for real life.

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June 17, 2021, 08:59:53 AM
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^ Probably OP means that in gambling, not all become to win there should be a loser. Trading and gambling are totally different but it seems like they are like a coin, two different faces but still, it is a coin and that is how gambling and trading are, they are both capable of managings financial your fund. On the other side, governments always protect their people from possible addiction that probably can't manage themselves.
Perhaps OP meant it relatively. Like making a comparison between the way gamblers and investors can loose in their fields subjectively and immediately paint it black. Especially when its got to do with trying of stocks for unexperienced investors. It always feels as though, the market is targeted on them. Other than this, then its very much to note that gambling and investing is mutually exclusive. They aren't the same or related in anyway. The tricks that works in investing and that of gambling are very much different. Gamblung is basically based on luck and a few experience but investing could be studied objectively and one could be acquinted with the tricks about it.

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June 17, 2021, 10:21:09 AM
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To me there is a question of whether the media's negative coverage of gambling is intended to protect people who make bad gambling or investment decisions. Or is it intended to deprive people like me of opportunities to make money.

I think in the vast majority of cases it's neither of that. Journalists seek attention for their articles, in the first place, and they'd figured out long ago that bad news sell better than good ones. This applies to predictions too: people would rather click on "20% of the world population will die of famine in 10 years" than on "20% of the world population will have much better conditions of living in 10 years". Danger is more clickable, it's as simple as that. "Nothing personal, just business."

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June 17, 2021, 10:49:46 AM
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To me there is a question of whether the media's negative coverage of gambling is intended to protect people who make bad gambling or investment decisions. Or is it intended to deprive people like me of opportunities to make money.

I think in the vast majority of cases it's neither of that. Journalists seek attention for their articles, in the first place, and they'd figured out long ago that bad news sell better than good ones. This applies to predictions too: people would rather click on "20% of the world population will die of famine in 10 years" than on "20% of the world population will have better conditions of living in 10 years". Danger is more clickable, it's as simple as that. "Nothing personal, just business."

I agree to your statement, they all care about money, the more viewers and readers the better for the business,

You gave example that easy to understand, those journalist knows that if they'll bring bad publicity readers interest is more imply to

click it and visit the site, they are not really care to what are the after effects as if they care about those gambling addicted people,
nothing personal but they want to get attentions and money from those people who will read the articles.

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June 17, 2021, 11:17:42 AM
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The negative effect from gambling will be bigger than the positive, so the anti-gambling campaign is everywhere, especially when gambling is allowed in that country. That can warn people how dangerous gambling, especially if they can not control themselves.


I partially agree with this statement. Have you noticed that there are so many people saying that we have lost that much amount in gambling but there are very few who say that we won in gambling. Is that the winning ratio is low in gambling or people just don't tell when they are winning. I can't believe that 90% of the gamblers only losing and yet the gambling users never get less.
it's undeniable that gambling is a bad thing, but why do people continue to do it ?Maybe because it's just because of the fun factor, so they forget every penny they have spent on gambling, the fact that they lose money after visiting the casino, and that doesn't affect the enjoyment They are on satisfaction after gambling, gamblers will be quite content with small wins, and they will tolerate small losses so that they don't realize that in the long run, they are losing more than winning.
I agree with what you said, the real winners in a gambling are those who become the dealer of the game.

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June 17, 2021, 11:18:49 AM
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To me there is a question of whether the media's negative coverage of gambling is intended to protect people who make bad gambling or investment decisions. Or is it intended to deprive people like me of opportunities to make money.

I think in the vast majority of cases it's neither of that. Journalists seek attention for their articles, in the first place, and they'd figured out long ago that bad news sell better than good ones. This applies to predictions too: people would rather click on "20% of the world population will die of famine in 10 years" than on "20% of the world population will have better conditions of living in 10 years". Danger is more clickable, it's as simple as that. "Nothing personal, just business."

I agree to your statement, they all care about money, the more viewers and readers the better for the business,

You gave example that easy to understand, those journalist knows that if they'll bring bad publicity readers interest is more imply to

click it and visit the site, they are not really care to what are the after effects as if they care about those gambling addicted people,
nothing personal but they want to get attentions and money from those people who will read the articles.


Simply says in this quote " Good or Bad Publicity will still brings publicity" so that's what they are expressing on this.

also people nowadays must be diligent and observant and don't just jump into conclusions about what the media is feeding us.

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June 17, 2021, 12:48:20 PM
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is it intended to deprive people like me of opportunities to make money.

I don't think so, you have little chances to make money from gambling and it will take some time before you can set up a method or your own strategy so you can win, the anti-gambling sentiments are from people who are once compulsive gamblers or had one of their family members, it is to warn people not to consume all their times and money to gambling and not to be deceived that you can make money in gambling.
But instead of being anti gambling why not make a information drive for how to handle gambling instead of telling them not to play because it is human nature that we love to do those things that is prohibited.
so not to ban gambling but to educate people instead.
and for me this is the best way to engage on this problems.

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June 17, 2021, 02:20:55 PM
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We cannot remove the negative comment of other people because they might experience, hear, or see different people currently experiencing failure and success in gambling.

To those people who fail, it's sad on their part because some of them might be addicted already and losses, a lot of money, and their family, friends, or any acquaintances don't want to see them suffer anymore or the other future players.

To those who win a lot of money because they enjoy or jealous of those players who gain a lot in a single roll, we can not remove that it's part of the nature of the person.

Everywhere there's a negative comment and we admit this we cannot remove this belief.

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