What Would Be Your Reason to Leave Bitcointalk?

[icopress]

As far as I know, only Admin can see who voted what.

As far as I know, before could only make one choice ... and, judging by the fact that I was able to vote for several points at once, it can be assumed that Theymos slightly updated the voting function. Given that any changes to the current version of the forum are immediately duplicated in Epochtalk, we can assume that the development continues. I was leading the monologue to the fact that Pmalek needs to add one more reason ... someone might say, "I am leaving the forum forever because tomorrow we are switching to Epochtalk".

1. Choice Voting and Publicity

Currently, during public voting, users can only make one choice, known as "bullet voting", which is not very convenient for some counting scenarios.

• Proposal: To enable users to give preference to any number of items or candidates during voting.
• Poll Options: Public, Identification of users participating in the survey, (As below).

[Pmalek]

KYC - no way that I would do it here.

That would be another knock-down for the forum. Couple that with banning signature campaigns and removing that altcoin boards, and we can start thinking about which color the Bitcointalk coffin should be.

theymos' view on this is clear:

I'll get right on that, just as soon as hell freezes over.

Another thing which wasn't mentioned is change of ownership. If new owners of Bitcointalk would be anti-Bitcoin and turn this forum into something like Bitcoin.com, there wouldn't be any reason for me to stay here.

I didn't think about that and it's a very good point. Would it make sense adding that to the poll at this stage, though? The number of available options keeps increasing.

I think that theymos already has a plan in case something happened to him or he just became tired of the forum. I really don't see it being auctioned off to the highest bidder. It will certainly get "inherited" by someone with a similar mindset.     

[Coin_trader]

The only reason why I will leave forum is when personal matters obligation is too heavy which will give no time to browse and discuss about crypto. The only reason why I'm still here was this is the only place where I can talk about crypto no string attach. I can't discuss this kind of stuff within my company as well as my friends and family. I love the forum overall even though most of the post here is just a generalize without a zero purpose of discussion. I love browsing stuff such as personal opinion about the hot news. And alos some tech stuff if I encounter some problem on my wallet/transaction. 

[Daniel91]

The main reason why I am still active on this forum after 7 years is the community, the people I met and became friends with.
I have already met some of them in person and it was an unforgettable experience.
If these people left the forum, then I would probably lose the main reason to continue to be active here.
Of course, I can also mention the campaign signatures as a motivation, but even that is no longer as important to me as it used to be.
The moment I get bored here and lose my friends, I’ll probably leave too 

[mediaBuzz]

Any forum/community has its unique atmosphere that you have to adapt to if you want to be a part of it, a part that others listen to and respect. I think bitcointalk is relatively not that forum where you come to in order to have a good chat with people of the same interest. This is because of the moderation level. Humor-based messages or messages of 4-5 words that are written to ONLY react to someone's message are barely tolerated in btt. They are considered to be spam and get removed. Every single message should be informative, comprehensive, and meaningful.

I'm not saying this is a con or something compared to other forums, it is just as it is. Maybe it's for good.

So, back to the question. I believe, issues caused by my end (family, tight schedule, etc.) would possibly make me stop using bitcointalk for a certain time, but surely nothing can cause me to quit it permanently. Technically, a ban might cause but I'm sure I won't do anything that would lead me to a permaban.

[LTU_btc]

KYC - no way that I would do it here.

That would be another knock-down for the forum. Couple that with banning signature campaigns and removing that altcoin boards, and we can start thinking about which color the Bitcointalk coffin should be.

theymos' view on this is clear:

I'll get right on that, just as soon as hell freezes over.

Well, when I made this post, I expected that someone will quote this legendary theymos phrase .

I think that theymos already has a plan in case something happened to him or he just became tired of the forum. I really don't see it being auctioned off to the highest bidder. It will certainly get "inherited" by someone with a similar mindset.     

Yeah, probably theymos have plan for such scenario that Bitcointalk would appear in good hands. So, I just posed it as hypothetical scenario, or in other words - ''what if...''

[cheezcarls]

Reputation and integrity is what I really cared here the most. Here on Bitcointalk, it may take years to build a great reputation or integrity but only takes minutes to lose them completely. If we are not careful here especially following the rules, we would end up having a bad reputation later on and may get flagged or leave negative trust.

I almost call it quit on Bitcointalk early last year (took a month long break) because I was so down not having a crypto job and on my way to being broke. I slowly switched to travel niche, but it got worse due to the COVID-19 pandemic, which forced me to go back to crypto desperately looking for an opportunity until I found one and I am still working with them as of this time.

Quitting is not an option for me, because I really want to be here for a very long time.

[eddie13]

Exactly this jetcash, I am in almost complete agreement..

I've cut back on my posting in the Bitcoin Talk forum, as it seems to have been taken over by many who have a passive acceptance of government and msm misinformation and propaganda.

I am certain you are talking about COVID-19 and vaccinations.

It would be great if we could have some threads that discussed and questioned the manipulated fake news that is affecting our live to a considerable extent. Obvious topics are pharmaceuticals ans vaccination, fiat currencies and their replacement, the manipulation of wealth preservation assets, the destruction of family values, distortion of human sexuality, and a whole range of similar topics.

Most of those are off-topic discussions that shouldn't be the focus of a bitcoin forum. They belong either in off-topic, serious discussion, or politics. Bitcoin can be discussed with homosexual anti-vaxxers who love the British pound, as well as straight people who live in families with 2-3 children who don't want to get their COVID shots. You can combine the options anyway you want. I don't understand why you would stop using a bitcoin forum due to someone's off-topic/unimportant viewpoints.  

I don't understand why you would stop using a bitcoin forum due to someone's off-topic/unimportant viewpoints.  

If it was just  one member, then I would just put him on ignore, and I have done this with a couple of stalkers.

I was referring to the general mindset. If the majority of members are just posting MSM reports, and not bothering to research or question the facts, and those posts are showered into potentially interesting threads, then it isn't worth trying to follow the thread. This is especially true if such members have to clog the thread with redundant quotes and images. The tech boards are great for helping members with Bitcoin issues, but Bitcoin is now established in the world economy, and therefore it has become important to consider global political and economic issues. It seems few are prepared to investigate anything beyond their own local issues, and the peccadilloes of their politicians.

Most of this forum has regressed to normie tier NPC sheep that just love to spout the mainstream Marxist narrative, completely contrary to what Bitcoin is..

Bitcoin IS a political movement, it just so happens to also be valuable..
Most have completely lost sight of that..

The potential world changing political implications of Bitcoin are MASSIVE, as it is probably the best tool of liberty to bring power to the individual since the invention of the firearm..

Bitcoin is possibly more dangerous and possibly disrupting to TPTB than firearms actually..

That’s why I’ve always been in Bitcoin, for the sovereign power it brings me as an individual, taken away from those who want to control..

That’s why Bitcoin was started and that is why it was maintained for years before it was really worth shit..

Now it is worth something and attracting some of the smoothest brained NPCs I have ever witnessed on the internet to “earn” something..

The IQ of this place has become ridiculous with the influx of all these morons that only think about somehow making a profit off of Bitcoin and crypto in general..
Most posts here are some of the worst writing I have seen anywhere on the internet, and even DT is loaded with imbeciles only interested in crypto to try to get fiat money out of it and earn something..

This forum should be for those who are seeking personal freedom, to take their power back from the control of ruling powers..
We are supposed to be interested in stopping governments and central banks from printing money to finance wars, bail out banks, and prop up the weak at the expense of the productive..

But here we are.. Most only interested in EARNING something, sucking value OUT of Bitcoin so they can buy some Chinese bullshit at Walmart..

It blows my mind how satoshis forum has turned into such a cesspool of those who love to just suck socialist cock and shill for pennies..


This forum has completely lost direction from the political movement that it was, and now just a bunch of money hungry morons..  


Earning some value is cool yeah, but if you aren’t here to stop authoritarianism, then you are here for the wrong reasons..

Satoshi is either sad as fuck at the sight of this forum, or rolling in his grave..


How about adding “this forum has lost its idealistic direction and turned into not much but a shithole swarmed by money hungry beggars” to the poll..


The standards of personal honor here have also gone to shit..
Top users here used to be worth of immense respect and were dignified and trustworthy, and that’s all out the window in trade for this new image 21st century degenerate “morality” the world is pushed to today..


That’s why I would possibly leave this forum and am mostly uninterested in reading most things here..

[Lorence.xD]

Personal reasons and health could be a key factor as to why I am going to leave this forum but since I am still strong and happy, I don't think that I would be leaving the forum anytime soon.

[Smartvirus]

There could be only 9ne reason for me to forget my crypto life and that would come most certainly, after I've archived all including helping to bring up a new generation of crypto enthusiast and I could no longer keep track or isn't able to comprehend little things about cryptos and life itself. At that point, I could say bye to cryptos as my brains are all aged. Yeah age, is the only factor for me. It does comes around for everyone and when it does, everything doesn't matter anymore. The cloths you wear, the businesses/investments you own and even the food you eat as the idea would always be about eating what doesn't have much of this and that to stay healthy.
So, age could be a major limiting factor for me else, I'm all in!

[Pmalek]

The IQ of this place has become ridiculous with the influx of all these morons that only think about somehow making a profit off of Bitcoin and crypto in general..
Most posts here are some of the worst writing I have seen anywhere on the internet, and even DT is loaded with imbeciles only interested in crypto to try to get fiat money out of it and earn something..

This forum should be for those who are seeking personal freedom, to take their power back from the control of ruling powers..
We are supposed to be interested in stopping governments and central banks from printing money to finance wars, bail out banks, and prop up the weak at the expense of the productive..

Nothing is stopping you from discussing such topics with those interested in talking about it. You can always self-moderate your threads and delete each post you consider non valuable, off-topic, spam, or whatever else you don't like. You can make your own local rules and prevent users who you don't like or whose opinions don't matter to you from posting in your threads. And there is nothing anyone can do about it because Bitcointalk allows that. 

[LoyceV]

Here's another option for the poll: "If I pulled off a successful exit scam or my alt-accounts got tagged for abusing a signature campaign".
These are real reasons for which users have left, but I doubt they dare admit it.

[RickDeckard]

I think that the reason to leave Bitcointalk is always related (at least partially) to why you've joined it in the first stage. I guess that there is a mix of users that come here, with totally different goals:

• To just post content in the hopes of achieving a campaign and just do the least they have to make in order to have their pay at the end of the week;
• Sell their merchandising by exchanging them with BTC in a place where BTC thrives / is commonly used as a token of exchange - In here we have both scammers and really honest and working people that are just trying to embrace BTC as a payment option
• To spread their altcoins and basically never come back / barely use the forum just to make sure that he'll post the same content 1 month after
• Just being a scammer and hoping to scam a couple of people before being caught
• And the people that are honestly interested in Bitcoin and crypto in general. While these could be anyone I don't think the average Joe would hear about BTC on the TV and would right away register here (that takes dedication and interest in understanding BTC - most average Joe's are only interested in making a quick buck with BTC.
  
  

I'm sure that we could all add more type of users here, these were just some of the few that came to my mind. What I wanted to say is that the people that truly joined Bitcointalk to engage in the discussion, share ideas, concepts and build healthy relations with the members here won't just stop appearing here - provided that something bad doesn't happen to them (death) or if they don't get into a heated discussion over here that ends up surpassing this "realm" and actually impacting their real life.

Imagine someone that joined here around 2010 with 25 years old - that person has at least 35 years now and has experienced things that surely we can't grasp - either by having kids and increased responsibilities or simply because they are now in a stage in their life were they simply cannot dedicate the same time here (and other places) that they did when they were 25 years old... I guess that ends up being the "rule of life" right? Of course we always try to participate and be active in every place that we can possible be at, but the day only has 24 hours right?

As for my own reasons to leave Bitcointalk are mainly the same ones that have been shared before :

• The forum would go into a completely new direction - both regarding moderation / some kind of whack KYC process
• Death (this should obviously be the first one but whatever
• Lack/Loose of interest in the cryptocurrency world (not likely to happen)
• Time (as stated in previous paragraphs)
• Major privacy issues

[Pmalek]

Here's another option for the poll: "If I pulled off a successful exit scam or my alt-accounts got tagged for abusing a signature campaign
These are real reasons for which users have left, but I doubt they dare admit it.

I am pretty sure that if I added those two options, they would have 0 votes because you said yourself, no one wants to admit it. The poll is anonymous, but the admins can probably see how you voted. Although they don't moderate scams and having multiple accounts isn't against forum rules (only disliked by the community), those users still wouldn't want to risk it. 

[FIFA worldcup]

Another thing which wasn't mentioned is change of ownership. If new owners of Bitcointalk would be anti-Bitcoin and turn this forum into something like Bitcoin.com, there wouldn't be any reason for me to stay here.

I didn't think about that and it's a very good point. Would it make sense adding that to the poll at this stage, though? The number of available options keeps increasing.

I think that theymos already has a plan in case something happened to him or he just became tired of the forum. I really don't see it being auctioned off to the highest bidder. It will certainly get "inherited" by someone with a similar mindset.     

Theymos would never auction this forum. I think this form will be taken care by the siblings of theymos. As with all the business, their ownership is never transferred to the external shareholders. 

[UserU]

Theymos would never auction this forum. I think this form will be taken care by the siblings of theymos. As with all the business, their ownership is never transferred to the external shareholders. 

He must have already passed the half of the private keys to his next of kin. Always on standby in case something happens

[Silent26]

I left the forum about two years ago due to life and personal problems. Since I don't know much about crypto, I decided to left the forum for good and focus on the real life in front of me. For some reason, I still found my self visiting the forum sometimes with the curiosity of "how's Bitcointalk doin?, are there still spammers left?" but to be honest, it appears that Bitcointak doesn't changed a bit. The same problem from spammers back then still arises after all, well it's not really something that will disappear just after a couple of years.

Back to the the story, I actually planned to return before I left cause I really wanted to start my own service but, due to some failures I don't have the confidence anymore. I don't even post very often as well fearing that I might only spam the thread (I don't know, I just felt it that way) and speaking of posting, this shitpost took me about 20 minutes and I even hesitated whether to post this or not but since you're already reading this seems like I just hit "Post" and there's no turning back. Now that I'm still posting even a single post per year, just like hilariousandco and the others, I think death is also the first thing that will make me leave the forum permanently, I have no plan to haunt the forum.

[Pmalek]

I think this form will be taken care by the siblings of theymos. As with all the business, their ownership is never transferred to the external shareholders. 

What makes you think he even has siblings? Unless he wrote about it somewhere on the forum. Considering how private of a person theymos is, I doubt he did. I don't think Bitcointalk is something those close to theymos will inherit. He didn't inherit it by being the child of the previous admin either. Passing it on to children or siblings should not be something he would seriously consider unless they have a major interest in bitcoin and forum management, and they are already on the forum without us knowing about it. 

[FIFA worldcup]

What makes you think he even has siblings? Unless he wrote about it somewhere on the forum.

He didn't wrote anything about his siblings doesn't change anything. Everyone has siblings including him.
No one needs to write personal stuff here.

I don't think Bitcointalk is something those close to theymos will inherit.

So if he does not want to inherit, who will be the owner of the forum   

[Pmalek]

Everyone has siblings including him.

No, they don't. Siblings are brothers and sisters, it's not the same as your next of kin. Your wife/husband and children are not considered siblings.   

So if he does not want to inherit, who will be the owner of the forum

Whoever deserves it the most due to his contributions to the forum and the work done in the background. The stuff we can't see from posts and sharing on-forum content.