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May 30, 2021, 09:50:52 PM
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Looking with statistic almost primer league team always failed when faced with la liga team, maybe this way if some one want to be Villarreal support team, but looking on paper never have any chance for UEFA Europe team can win from champion league team and looks impossible, but most excited to see can Chelsea destroy mith about primer league team always loss from la liga team.
In this particular match, there is no clear favorite, just as Chelsea were not favorites against Manchester City, so Villarreal was not in the match against Manchester United. Therefore, it is not worth arguing that the winner of the Champions League should win against the winner of the Europa League. The UEFA Super Cup is more of an exhibition match, played by clubs that have already finished the previous season, but have not really started the new season yet, and the loser of this match will not grieve much about the loss and there is not a lot of money at stake. Therefore, I am not sure that Chelsea will be very determined to change some statistics, because the goal of winning the Champions League has been achieved and everything will depend on the specific state of the clubs on a particular day and hour.
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May 30, 2021, 10:29:56 PM
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Is this cup as Super as it is being said?
Due to the time at which this finals would be played(pre season) time, Tuchel might not take it slightly.
But trust me, Villarreal coach's motive would be to continue his win and history making with England club.
So I wish Tuchel will take the match seriously, he will take the day.

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May 30, 2021, 10:46:45 PM
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It will be played in August, still more than 2 months remaining and we don't know which transfer teams will do. It's too early to talk about it. Under current circumstances Chelsea is favorite both financially and experience wise. But don't forget that one match cup games have no favorites, anything can happen. I prefer to watch these kind of matches with no bets or a very small bet just for fun purposes. These matches are not for making a lot of money, it includes high risk low reward ratio.
How these matches could offer high risk and low reward, I don't understand? You mean bookmakers are making more juice on these matches according to you? Well that's a bold statement. We don't know the odds yet but I don't think bookies will change their vigorish for this match. So if one outcome is overvalued the other(s) will necessarily be undervalued.
I think Chelsea has currently better chances to win the Super Cup though.

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May 31, 2021, 02:06:46 AM
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It will be played in August, still more than 2 months remaining and we don't know which transfer teams will do. It's too early to talk about it. Under current circumstances Chelsea is favorite both financially and experience wise. But don't forget that one match cup games have no favorites, anything can happen. I prefer to watch these kind of matches with no bets or a very small bet just for fun purposes. These matches are not for making a lot of money, it includes high risk low reward ratio.
How these matches could offer high risk and low reward, I don't understand? You mean bookmakers are making more juice on these matches according to you? Well that's a bold statement. We don't know the odds yet but I don't think bookies will change their vigorish for this match. So if one outcome is overvalued the other(s) will necessarily be undervalued.
I think Chelsea has currently better chances to win the Super Cup though.

In the UEFA Super Cup 2020 between Munich vs Sevilla there were no striking changes everything was normal as usual and I still remember the betting market for that match
-0.5  Munchen
+0.5 Sevilla

I think the same goes for  Chelsea vs Villarreal match, as champions in each competition they have almost the same strength

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May 31, 2021, 07:01:42 AM
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I don't find the statistic about the head-to-head teams. however, I just find the statistic voter to tend to go to Chelsea.



they have a better defense than Villareal, because have two top defensive players are N'Golo Kante and Cesar Azpilicueta. while Villareal have two top defenders are Raul Tortajada Albiol and Pau Torres. the last 5 games comparing both teams is the same, 3 won and 2 Lost.

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May 31, 2021, 07:15:02 AM
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August 11th still enough time to get prepared for this but from statistics I would rather bet against Chels. Villareal is a Spanish club which has much more tactics compared to Chelsea which is an English club although most times football can't be predicted 💯% but from previous performances I think Villa real stand a better chance of winning the super cup without traces. For this would be my take but few months to the game I might adjust my analysis only if I find a reason why Chelsea can win this cup.
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May 31, 2021, 10:35:21 AM
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How these matches could offer high risk and low reward, I don't understand? You mean bookmakers are making more juice on these matches according to you? Well that's a bold statement. We don't know the odds yet but I don't think bookies will change their vigorish for this match. So if one outcome is overvalued the other(s) will necessarily be undervalued.
I think Chelsea has currently better chances to win the Super Cup though.

As I said in my post, anything can happen in one match finals. Favorites don't win all the time and underdogs may perform better. It also doesn't have to be the better performers win the cup, you can play worse and still win it. That's why these games have higher risks than other matches and odds are same as others so that means low reward for your high risk. I don't know why you see it as bold statement, that's a common sense in gambling market.

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May 31, 2021, 09:48:41 PM
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How these matches could offer high risk and low reward, I don't understand? You mean bookmakers are making more juice on these matches according to you? Well that's a bold statement. We don't know the odds yet but I don't think bookies will change their vigorish for this match. So if one outcome is overvalued the other(s) will necessarily be undervalued.
I think Chelsea has currently better chances to win the Super Cup though.

As I said in my post, anything can happen in one match finals. Favorites don't win all the time and underdogs may perform better. It also doesn't have to be the better performers win the cup, you can play worse and still win it. That's why these games have higher risks than other matches and odds are same as others so that means low reward for your high risk. I don't know why you see it as bold statement, that's a common sense in gambling market.
No I disagree with that, the best common sense in gambling market is for the bookmakers to provide the most accurate odds they can, because if they keep the same margin, it means one of the teams or one of the outcomes if you take the draw in to account, will be overpriced if odds turn out to be wrong. The total implied probability of the odds is always 100% without the vigorish. So if there is more uncertainty on the final outcome the odds of the favorite should be higher.  

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May 31, 2021, 10:40:44 PM
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I will also be betting on Chelsea that's for sure.  Grin  This cup doesn't have as big importance as the other tournaments maybe but it is still a big title in the end. Villarreal would like to win another title also but I think they have a low chance against Chelsea.
it will be a great match and the Windsor Park stadium will witness Chelsea's victory...

from Chelsea's history in the super cup, they only won 1 time and Villareal just felt the super cup atmosphere, I'm sure with Chelsea's experience they will be able to win for the second time.

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June 01, 2021, 05:25:37 AM
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Villarreal will try their best in beating Chelsea in the Super Cup, because is it their first time playing the Super Cup match. But Chelsea is not a weaker team and can't be beaten easily. However, I don't think Villarreal can stand Chelsea in this match.
History had it that Chelsea have won the Super Cup once in the year 1998, Although, they lost the Super Cup to Liverpool in 2019. It really going to a great match and Chelsea will surely win.

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August 09, 2021, 11:17:14 AM
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Bump, 2-3 days left until the match on the National Football Stadium at Windsor Park in Belfast, Northern Ireland, Wednesday 11 August, kicking off at 21:00 CET

At the moment, Chelsea released the player who can play, https://www.uefa.com/uefasupercup/clubs/52914--chelsea/squad/

Goal Keeper : Edouard Mendy, Kepa, Marcus Bettinelli, Lucas Bergstrom
Defender : Reece James, Cesar Azpilicueta, Andreas Christensen, Thiago Silva, Kurt Zouma, Ethan Ampadu, Antonio Rudiger, Ben Chilwell, Marcos Alonso, Emerson
midfielder : N'Golo Kante, Jorginho, Mateo Kovacic, Mason Mount, Tino Anjorin
Forward : Christian Pulisic, Hakim Ziyech, Callum Hudson-Odoi, Kai Havertz, Timo Werner, Tammy Abraham, Armando Broja

I don't see Lukaku yet, and Mason Mount.

Predicted line-ups for Vilareal;

Asenjo; Gaspar, Mandi, Albiol, Pedraza; Manu Trigueros, Manu Morlanes, Foyth, Yéremi; Gerard, Fer Niño

There will be watching the spectator, but the maximum is 13k and must be negative PCR.

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August 09, 2021, 12:19:25 PM
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There are only two days left for the Super Cup game between Chelsea and Villarreal. Chelsea are the favorite team in this game of course. They are the last champions in the Champions League in the end. And we don't know whether Villarreal will be able to show a high passion to us. They played really great against Manchester Utd in the Europa League final and deserved to win the title. Chelsea have a much better squad in terms of quality. And I wonder how Werner will perform in this game the most. Will he still struggle to score or start adapting to the team? If Werner proves himself, maybe Chelsea won't even think of signing a top striker this summer.

 
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I think Chelsea will beat Villarreal. The team that wins the Super Cup will most likely be Chelsea. Their squad quality is higher than the Spanish team. Looking at the friendly matches Villarreal played, they lost 2-1 to Marseille and 3-2 to Leicester City. They drew 2-2 with Leeds United. Chelsea can win without difficulty.

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In the UEFA Europa League final, Man United dominated the game, but Villareal was more fortunate because they could win the penalty shootout. I think Chelsea will win the UEFA Super Cup 2021 because Chelsea is on par with Man United, so it is very likely that Chelsea will also dominate the UEFA Super Cup match.

Yes I agree with you, Chelsea is superior on all fronts but it's not final yet the strength and prowess of the team could have been overtaken by luck
So in this case we see that Chelsea has the strength but for luck we don't know yet, Villarreal and Chelsea can get it.

yes on memory paper chelsea is more favored.than Villarreal, but we must.not underestimate the Spanish league club.because in.recent years.the Spanish league club.is more dominant.than the English league maybe this is not an.important match considering.the trophy is only as an.opening to the start of the Champions league and league Europe, but I firmly.believe that Villarreal will put up a fight against.Chelsea
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I'm really excited about the Super Cup game. I'm favoring Chelsea in this one. They have signed Romelu Lukaku also but I assume that he won't be able to play in this game. He is still not even in England now if I'm not wrong. Even if he comes to the club before the game, I don't think that Tuchel would want to make him play in this game right away. So, Chelsea will be depending on Timo Werner in this game. I hope that he left the last season behind in his mind and he can play much better and help his team win this game easily.

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August 09, 2021, 09:26:44 PM
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I'm really excited about the Super Cup game. I'm favoring Chelsea in this one. They have signed Romelu Lukaku also but I assume that he won't be able to play in this game. He is still not even in England now if I'm not wrong. Even if he comes to the club before the game, I don't think that Tuchel would want to make him play in this game right away. So, Chelsea will be depending on Timo Werner in this game. I hope that he left the last season behind in his mind and he can play much better and help his team win this game easily.
I think Chelsea will win too although I am always sceptical about the result of games played before the beginning of the season and the very first games at the start.
Lukaku won't play, generally recently signed players have to adapt to the team before playing, by Wednesday Lukaku couldn't have 1 minute of training with the team so Wink

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August 09, 2021, 11:59:04 PM
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I'm really excited about the Super Cup game. I'm favoring Chelsea in this one. They have signed Romelu Lukaku also but I assume that he won't be able to play in this game. He is still not even in England now if I'm not wrong. Even if he comes to the club before the game, I don't think that Tuchel would want to make him play in this game right away. So, Chelsea will be depending on Timo Werner in this game. I hope that he left the last season behind in his mind and he can play much better and help his team win this game easily.
When everything depends on a single match, then everything is possible that Villarreal demonstrated in the Europa League final match, although on paper, Chelsea is of course the written favorite. But let's not forget that now is only the beginning of the season and the players are hardly able to show their maximum. Also, let's not forget that the UEFA Super Cup is still more of an exhibition match and the attitude towards it is not as serious as, for example, the Champions League final. As far as I know, Lukaku has already arrived in London and has already passed a medical examination and it seems that he promised to make an appeal to Inter fans at the airport soon. All this, of course, does not guarantee the mandatory participation of Lukaku in the match.
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I'm really excited about the Super Cup game. I'm favoring Chelsea in this one. They have signed Romelu Lukaku also but I assume that he won't be able to play in this game.
Lukaku didn't on the squad yet, I hear the news he must be able to fix it, I mean he is on a medical check-up first. the competition is good for the team to try a new formation and squad before kick-off in the main league. Nothing can't happen, if Chelsea hasn't seriously, Villareal will be the champions. this event is for motivation either to club, I know the feeling when got the trophy, that can be a spirit for the next competition, a good start to get a happy ending in 2022.

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August 10, 2021, 03:47:38 AM
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In the UEFA Europa League final, Man United dominated the game, but Villareal was more fortunate because they could win the penalty shootout. I think Chelsea will win the UEFA Super Cup 2021 because Chelsea is on par with Man United, so it is very likely that Chelsea will also dominate the UEFA Super Cup match.

Yes I agree with you, Chelsea is superior on all fronts but it's not final yet the strength and prowess of the team could have been overtaken by luck
So in this case we see that Chelsea has the strength but for luck we don't know yet, Villarreal and Chelsea can get it.

yes on memory paper chelsea is more favored.than Villarreal, but we must.not underestimate the Spanish league club.because in.recent years.the Spanish league club.is more dominant.than the English league maybe this is not an.important match considering.the trophy is only as an.opening to the start of the Champions league and league Europe, but I firmly.believe that Villarreal will put up a fight against.Chelsea
The fact that the odds is tilted towards Chelsea to win the match might not necessarily enable them to win the match, Villarreal manager Unai Emery is equally a good tactician who had won Europa cup in several occasions, although he had never won his previous two attempts on winning Super Cup but I am quite sure he will aim for a win this time , La Liga teams can equally match any EPL team, Villarreal eliminated Arsenal and defeated Man Utd via penalty in a keenly contested match last season,  I forsee as repeat of the same with Chelsea tommorow.

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Approximately, 7-8 left until kick-off. I hope Chelsea can play seriously not defensive, We know the premier league begins in the next week, possible they can play carefully to avoid the injured. maybe one of the motivations is Tuchel and several players didn't yet win that tournament before. but, Villareal has that motivation either, even though both have the same potential, if they play seriously possible that will show an interesting match and strategy.  and whoever the winner, will create the step to the next way.

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