[ANN] Mt.Gox reloaded : Welcome to Mt.Gox's new and improved design!

[payb.tc]

I think this layout is another important step towards wider adoptance of Bitcoin.

agreed.

dumb it down for the masses, and masses are more likely to arrive.

i can live with that.

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[Technomage]

I have a question to Mt. Gox though, why is there no option for SEPA withdrawal? And do you have any ETA on that?

[Pontius]

The activation key generation for application access is b0rked, as the resulting QR code is stretched and therefore unreadable for the mobile app (tried both Chrome 15/Linux and IE8/Windows). As a workaround I used the "classic" website, there it works.

Please check again. At least it is now working for me.

Yes, looks fine now.

[ineededausername]

I have a question to Mt. Gox though, why is there no option for SEPA withdrawal? And do you have any ETA on that?

Oh wow, so they did nothing other than "improve" the design.
Goxxed again!

[kangasbros]

I'm interested in the SEPA option, and I'm trying to get my account verified. How long is it going to take?

[slush]

Any plans for SEPA withdrawals? (I see only SEPA deposits on the site)

[foo]

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I am not sure why someone would want to advertise using a quote from Wikipedia as the source for anything, when the actual source is better.

This "Part" is aimed to change with time, also, while I agree that BitcoinCharts is a nice choice as well, Wikipedia is here used for its "neutrality" toward Bitcoin.

Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Quoting it on the front page looks very unprofessional.
If someone edits the article and adds "Mt. Gox sucks balls", will you quote that too?

[eleuthria]

All the data you need at your fingertips is now only a click away!

ironic, considering 'withdrawal' (by bitcoin) now takes 1 extra click than before.

no, i'm firmly in the classic camp... someone else summed up the new interface well when they said it has 'a much lower information density'. the glaring problem with this is the enourmous amount of pixel height given to the header and following <h1>  ...so pretty much every feature requires you to scroll down after every click.

i'm not a fan at all.

Low information density is an understatement.  Even the classic design had a lot of "empty space" forcing the site to be much larger than what it needed.

The idea of saying you're releasing a "low resolution" version later is laughable.  Right now the site doesn't even fit the data in 1920x1200 resolution vertically.  There is no reason for the amount of padding on every single element of the new design.  I thought the entire countdown was pretty unprofessional to begin with for a FINANCIAL WEBSITE.  Then this new layout comes out and as others have said, it has the look and feel of a blog more than anything business related.

[jwzguy]

How about posting about the problems with Paxum withdrawals? I saw a quote from IRC where Mark said there's an investigation that's putting them all on hold. Who is being investigated? What's the ETA on a resolution?

Why do we have to wait to hear scraps of this on IRC, (where follow-up questions are often rudely ignored,)  instead of posted on the official website in a clear and timely manner?

[SgtSpike]

I refuse to identify myself on MtGox to be able to use SEPA transfers.

Unfortunately, this is a legal obligation and we have to follow Europeans rules on that regard. FYI, each time you are using SEPA you are sending regardless of what you want/think most of your personal data the recipient of the transfer including your name and address, so basically you are identify yourself.
We Mt.Gox are then legally obliged to match both information sent to us and the one we have in our system. We understand that this overall process may be annoying for some and we would love to make it easier for all, but running an honest and legal business is what ultimately everybody wants and need!

Legality is ultimately a matter of opinion, and the people with the guns (governments) are expressing some really shitty opinions lately.

Legality may be a matter of opinion, but my opinion of Bitcoin operations who chose to attempt to skirt the law is pretty dang low.  Too many people getting burned by operations that are technically illegal and give out little information about themselves.  I'd rather go with a company who is more worried about complying legally, so that my funds don't suddenly get frozen by the government, and to avoid another "my bitcoin" fiasco.

Laws for money operations are there for a reason - to ensure that the consumer doesn't get burned.  If My Bitcoin had complied with all applicable money service business laws, you can bet your bottom that there wouldn't have been hundreds of users who lost 50% of their coins.

But, as you said, complying with laws and regulations is ultimately a matter of opinion.  It is my opinion that MtGox is doing the right thing with regards to that though, to ensure trust of their services and longevity of their business.  You can certainly continue using your sketchy, outside-of-the-law exchanges though. 

Just noticed, a quick credit edit



I am not sure why someone would want to advertise using a quote from Wikipedia as the source for anything, when the actual source is better.

This "Part" is aimed to change with time, also, while I agree that BitcoinCharts is a nice choice as well, Wikipedia is here used for its "neutrality" toward Bitcoin.

Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Quoting it on the front page looks very unprofessional.
If someone edits the article and adds "Mt. Gox sucks balls", will you quote that too?

Would have to agree with this...  I did a double-take when I saw Wikipedia being quoted.  I don't think I've ever seen that before in my life, except on badly-written college papers that get an F.

[demonofelru]

Any plans to make withdraws and deposits from Dwolla under $10 free since Dwolla changed that? That would be great for miners that do a daily withdraw.

[jothan]

Just a note, the interface seems to have problems displaying more than 1 open order. On top of the page, it says "2 open orders", but the list only displays 1 order. The old interface at https://classic.mtgox.com/ displays the two orders correctly.

Edit: the order in question has been "split" because the full order would not have enough funds.

[bosschair]

I like the new interactive graph, but what exactly is being displayed by the bottom graph (the one that controls the time range displayed in the top graph)?  The regular little dips in it are kind of strangely uniform, and I'm wondering what they are.

[Mt.Gox Support]

Thanks for all your feedback we appreciate ALL OF THEM, including the "harsh" ones. A new design is always "puzzling" at first and not everyone is always happy with such stuff. Anyway what you see right now, is not written in stone, meaning that there will be a few tweaks and improvements coming along to make sure that it will pleases both the hardcore "traders" but also, for the future of Bitcoin, to offer a less "scary" interface for the first time users. Look at this design as a V2 of Mt.Gox and V2.1, V2.2... Will offer many new features that will satisfied both sides, with advanced trading solution for the "pros" and other solution for the rest of "world".

Finally as far as SEPA Withdraw is concerned, this will be back soon as well.

Cheers

[BitcoinPorn]

I'm glad others are seeing issue with that Wikipedia quote thing.  I see the designers argument as far as I guess what would be an "unbiased" source.  But then that is a lie, as the source is Bitcoincharts, they put the work in to make that sweet site that is reliable for information that is not tied to any one exchange.    I guess though technically the quote is from Wikipedia because I don't think Bitcoincharts puts it's information in sentence form.  Still, using Wikipedia as a source should not sit right just based on the site is just a bunch of sources really, and your quote was pulled from just one source, that is no longer getting credit

[Mt.Gox Support]

I'm glad others are seeing issue with that Wikipedia quote thing.  I see the designers argument as far as I guess what would be an "unbiased" source.  But then that is a lie, as the source is Bitcoincharts, they put the work in to make that sweet site that is reliable for information that is not tied to any one exchange.    I guess though technically the quote is from Wikipedia because I don't think Bitcoincharts puts it's information in sentence form.  Still, using Wikipedia as a source should not sit right just based on the site is just a bunch of sources really, and your quote was pulled from just one source, that is no longer getting credit

Don't worry we will do something to make everyone happy!

[c_k]

V1 MtGox was a case of "first impressions last" and put many off with no other place to go for similar liquidity, it's maybe why TradeHill got a number of people IMO.

Anyway, great job guys - keep up the good work

[StewartJ]

This new interface has serious issues:

- First, in the Trade Section, it's hard to tell with the new Sell /Buy tabs whether you are doing a sell or buy transaction. I have accidentally done buys instead of sells and vise a versa.  You can hardly distinguish which displayed Tab you are in. The previous interface showed both at the Sell and Buy entry fields side by side, there was no room for error when placing your order.

- Secondly, when you place your buy/sell order, you have to constantly refresh the page before you get to see your Open Orders.  It's frustrating because you have a serious lag time before you can confirm if your order has gone though. The old interface was fairly quick to show Open Orders and confirm.

I am sticking with the classic interface until these issues are fixed. I have sent a note to MT Gox Support about these issues.

Anyone who has encountered the same kind of problems, please shoot a reply. I cannot be the only one experiencing these snafus.

SJ

[phorensic]

Yes it is not AJAX enough to see what you are doing.  You have to refresh and scroll around to see what is going on.  And the information density is so low that you see the notification at the top that you have orders open, but you have to scroll a mile down just to see the first one.

[Ente]

SJ,

exactly the same here. I confused "sell" and "buy" too, ending up with trading into the wrong direction. Scrolling and refreshing to see my orders is no fun neither, but not such a big disturbance as the too-similar-looking buy and sell tabs.

Please put them both side-by-side!

Ente