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July 04, 2021, 11:47:20 PM
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I did not expect Uruguay to lose to Colombia. I was betting on Uruguay winning this match. But Uruguay disappointed me and they lost the match. Suarez and Cavani were the only ones to score a penalty kick for Uruguay.

Argentina now has a 2-0 lead in the match between Argentina and Ecuador. What I was guessing has happened. My prediction was that Argentina would win the match 2-0.

Edit :My guess is wrong. Argentina won the match 3-0. Messi scored the third goal on the 90th minute. A great free-kick and a great goal. The great Messi has two assists and one goal.

Messi has played great, while Di Maria is in great form. At the same time Martinez has tried his best to play well. And he has managed to score goals. I expected some better gamplay from Aguero. The next match is against Colombia. A team like Colombia can be easily defeated if all the players in the team are able to play well in their position.
i think Argentina will for sure get to the final, Colombia don't not have what it takes to beat Argentina this year, with all my respect to Colombia, but it won't be easy for Argentina, they have to perform really good, they missed a lot of chances against Ecuador, even though they won 3-0, they should be more focused in the next match to qualify and hopefully win it this year.

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Last edit: July 05, 2021, 05:39:37 AM by kro55
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I did not expect Uruguay to lose to Colombia. I was betting on Uruguay winning this match. But Uruguay disappointed me and they lost the match. Suarez and Cavani were the only ones to score a penalty kick for Uruguay.
Argentina now has a 2-0 lead in the match between Argentina and Ecuador. What I was guessing has happened. My prediction was that Argentina would win the match 2-0.
Edit :My guess is wrong. Argentina won the match 3-0. Messi scored the third goal on the 90th minute. A great free-kick and a great goal. The great Messi has two assists and one goal.
Messi has played great, while Di Maria is in great form. At the same time Martinez has tried his best to play well. And he has managed to score goals. I expected some better gamplay from Aguero. The next match is against Colombia. A team like Colombia can be easily defeated if all the players in the team are able to play well in their position.
i think Argentina will for sure get to the final, Colombia don't not have what it takes to beat Argentina this year, with all my respect to Colombia, but it won't be easy for Argentina, they have to perform really good, they missed a lot of chances against Ecuador, even though they won 3-0, they should be more focused in the next match to qualify and hopefully win it this year.

Don't be overconfident. I am Argentinian fan too. The Colombian team is not bad. They have won against Uruguay, Uruguay is not a weaker team. Colombia played 90 minutes to draw the match. And in the end they are able to achieve their goal and able to draw the match. They won the match and have now reached the semi-finals. Colombia will play defensively against Argentina. But they can counterattack very well. Argentina defenders need to be very vigilant.

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July 05, 2021, 06:03:42 AM
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The Brazil Vs Argentina Final seems to be shaping up well. I am not ruling out Colombia and Peru at the moment, but I would love a finial between the other 2 arch rivals. Sadly, I haven't been able to watch most match in the tournament because they Air during the times I am not available.
Yes it would be an ideal final and now both teams are on the right track, actually I favor Brazil as champions but I also see Argentina playing aggressively
In the last 2 matches Argentina won by a score of more than 2 goals while Brazil won with a low score, now i can't predict who is more worthy to be champion.
However, Argentina only depends on one person, Messi. That makes the teams get in big trouble if they do not change the strategy. Neymar knows that because has together in past (Barcelona), he can lock him. Possible Neymar will stick him and Brazil change the formation on front.

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July 05, 2021, 08:50:40 AM
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I thought Uruguay had the ability to qualify for the semi-finals but what happened was Cavani and Suarez wasted a lot of chances. Until finally the match was decided on penalties and I was only surprised by the performance from Ospina but otherwise, even though Cavani and Suarez could have scored goals in the shootout I was still disappointed with his game during normal time. However, both teams have equally great goalkeepers and that is also what makes it difficult for both teams to score goals in normal time.

I guess a lot of us saw it from the past matches. They had plenty of time to correct their mistakes from the group stages, but if they continued to play like that (miss chances) then they would for sure get out. Bad on me to keep predicting for them but it is what it is. I guess this was just a really long season for both of them and full of emotions. That saps all the strength out of you for a tournament like this.

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July 05, 2021, 09:40:55 AM
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Most likely it is going to be Brazil vs Argentina in the final as everyone expect it to be as the eternal rivals from South America facing each other.However Colombia is a great team and has showed it during all the tournament while for Peru I think it is here mostly because of luck.Colombia can make surprises and can cause the final to be another one and not Brazil vs Argentina.So we may see a Brazil vs Colombia final as for Peru I am 100% sure it will be eliminated in the game against Brazil.

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July 05, 2021, 09:47:51 AM
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It will be funny if Brazil loses to Peru (I would not be surprised if this happens since any result can happen in this competition) and thus we will be deprived of the epic final Brazil - Argentina. In fact, it will be sad. So I will hopefully see at least one top game here, and I wonder in advance how the bookmakers will evaluate the Brazil - Argentina pair.
It will be a super El Classico of Coppa America. In the past, Argentina with Riquelme lost in a final against Brazil with Kaka.

I don't remember in what year but about more than ten years ago.

Messi will be a good candidate for Ballon Dor if he can help Argentina win a big title after many years. It will depend on the best player in Euro that is in progress too.

If Kane and England win the Euro, it will be a very exciting Ballon Dor competition next year.

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Messi has not won anything with the club this year and has not shown anything special in the game. Even if Argentina wins the Copa America now, we must not forget that this is in fact a third-rate competition, which can hardly be considered as a tournament, a good game in which can be an argument for awarding the Ballon Dor.

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July 05, 2021, 10:57:59 AM
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In the quarterfinals, Peru eliminated Paraguay on penalties. Regular game had ended at 3-3. Gustavo Gomez gave the Paraguayan selection the illusion of an early lead. Then he put the team in trouble with an own goal and an expulsion, which came after the momentary 2-1 Peruvian goal, signed by Lapadula. Lots of emotions characterized the second half: Junior Alonso rebalanced the situation, Yoshimar Yotun put Peru back ahead, Carrillo got himself sent off and also left Gareca's team in ten, Gabriel Avalos again restored parity. Then, as mentioned, Paraguay surrendered from the eleven meters.
The dream may stop there as I think Brazil's gonna win easily against Peru.
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July 05, 2021, 11:16:33 AM
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The dream may stop there as I think Brazil's gonna win easily against Peru.

Peru was much better than Paraguay, but conceived goals near the end, and had to go through penalties
Brazil is too much for them, especially due to home field

Argentina and Colombia is a more interesting semi-final, and I think Colombia would go-through, they kicked Uruguay on penalties, and have a chance of their own to get the title, Argentina does not have team-spirit, and that is highly desirable to play against rivals like Colombia in kick-out competition phase
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July 05, 2021, 01:57:46 PM
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Argentina and Colombia is a more interesting semi-final, and I think Colombia would go-through, they kicked Uruguay on penalties, and have a chance of their own to get the title, Argentina does not have team-spirit, and that is highly desirable to play against rivals like Colombia in kick-out competition phase

I don't think you have seen the performance of Argentina's past matches. Argentina as a team is much more stable now. They have scored 3 goals in the previous match with the help of Messi. We all knew Argentina's defense was weak. They have made the defense stronger now than ever before. They have conceded just two goals in five Copa America matches.

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July 05, 2021, 03:44:23 PM
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Argentina and Colombia is a more interesting semi-final, and I think Colombia would go-through, they kicked Uruguay on penalties, and have a chance of their own to get the title, Argentina does not have team-spirit, and that is highly desirable to play against rivals like Colombia in kick-out competition phase

I don't think you have seen the performance of Argentina's past matches. Argentina as a team is much more stable now. They have scored 3 goals in the previous match with the help of Messi. We all knew Argentina's defense was weak. They have made the defense stronger now than ever before. They have conceded just two goals in five Copa America matches.
Argentinians are maybe smug towards another latin countries and sometimes lack sportsmanship, however not among themselves and not that much nowadays. I remember decades ago the rivality was too much stronger, which created a lot of conflicts between the players from Argentina against their rivals and between the different crowds. But the team itself plays well together and cooperatively around Messi's figure.
As I see Messi is a must for the team, without him Argentina doesn't go too far, but it doesn't mean he is selfish, since he helped a lot his teammates to score and build strategies during the last match against Equador. That is a good indicator at their favour.

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July 05, 2021, 04:32:49 PM
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Messi has not won anything with the club this year and has not shown anything special in the game. Even if Argentina wins the Copa America now, we must not forget that this is in fact a third-rate competition, which can hardly be considered as a tournament, a good game in which can be an argument for awarding the Ballon Dor.
I am not Messi fan but it is a general situation for personal title competition among best players. None of them have a smooth season from beginning to the end, none of them win two or three trophies. Their performance in Euro or Coppa America will be key. I know Coppa America is not as big as Euro but is one of biggest continental tournament.

Messi is playing well in this Coppa and in La Liga, last season he played too well in the second half even it does not enough to win La Liga.

I think if he wins Coppa America that can be the only one national trophy for him, he can get Ballon Dor with support from media, fans, etc.

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July 05, 2021, 04:49:35 PM
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Oh please don't start it  Cheesy
Messi has not won anything with the club this year and has not shown anything special in the game. Even if Argentina wins the Copa America now, we must not forget that this is in fact a third-rate competition, which can hardly be considered as a tournament, a good game in which can be an argument for awarding the Ballon Dor.
I am not Messi fan but it is a general situation for personal title competition among best players. None of them have a smooth season from beginning to the end, none of them win two or three trophies. Their performance in Euro or Coppa America will be key. I know Coppa America is not as big as Euro but is one of biggest continental tournament.

Messi is playing well in this Coppa and in La Liga, last season he played too well in the second half even it does not enough to win La Liga.

I think if he wins Coppa America that can be the only one national trophy for him, he can get Ballon Dor with support from media, fans, etc.

Yes, Messi only has a chance at the Copa America after failing in various competitions with his club, so far messi put the top scorer in the copa america
It will be a point for him if he manages to bring Argentina to the tournament champion.

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July 05, 2021, 05:21:54 PM
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Messi has not won anything with the club this year and has not shown anything special in the game. Even if Argentina wins the Copa America now, we must not forget that this is in fact a third-rate competition, which can hardly be considered as a tournament, a good game in which can be an argument for awarding the Ballon Dor.
I am not Messi fan but it is a general situation for personal title competition among best players. None of them have a smooth season from beginning to the end, none of them win two or three trophies. Their performance in Euro or Coppa America will be key. I know Coppa America is not as big as Euro but is one of biggest continental tournament.

Messi is playing well in this Coppa and in La Liga, last season he played too well in the second half even it does not enough to win La Liga.

I think if he wins Coppa America that can be the only one national trophy for him, he can get Ballon Dor with support from media, fans, etc.

Yes, Messi only has a chance at the Copa America after failing in various competitions with his club, so far messi put the top scorer in the copa america
It will be a point for him if he manages to bring Argentina to the tournament champion.

It is not only a point for Messi, it is a life mission. He always failed in the finals and he is desperate to win a title with Argentina. I seriously hope he does win it. I don't understand people who judge him by that title, for me he is the best anyway. If judgment would be about an international title, those who argue that wa would have to mention the best player of the world is always one of the team that becomes world champion or European champion.

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July 05, 2021, 05:46:44 PM
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Oh please don't start it  Cheesy
Messi has not won anything with the club this year and has not shown anything special in the game. Even if Argentina wins the Copa America now, we must not forget that this is in fact a third-rate competition, which can hardly be considered as a tournament, a good game in which can be an argument for awarding the Ballon Dor.
I am not Messi fan but it is a general situation for personal title competition among best players. None of them have a smooth season from beginning to the end, none of them win two or three trophies. Their performance in Euro or Coppa America will be key. I know Coppa America is not as big as Euro but is one of biggest continental tournament.

Messi is playing well in this Coppa and in La Liga, last season he played too well in the second half even it does not enough to win La Liga.

I think if he wins Coppa America that can be the only one national trophy for him, he can get Ballon Dor with support from media, fans, etc.

Yes, Messi only has a chance at the Copa America after failing in various competitions with his club, so far messi put the top scorer in the copa america
It will be a point for him if he manages to bring Argentina to the tournament champion.

It is not only a point for Messi, it is a life mission. He always failed in the finals and he is desperate to win a title with Argentina. I seriously hope he does win it. I don't understand people who judge him by that title, for me he is the best anyway. If judgment would be about an international title, those who argue that wa would have to mention the best player of the world is always one of the team that becomes world champion or European champion.

Well right this is messi mission maybe this is the last time he plays for Argentina before he retires of course he wants to give the best for his country
But that's the truth, a player is considered the best player if he manages to give the title This is a kind of calculation that has been around for a long time

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July 05, 2021, 05:52:27 PM
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It is not only a point for Messi, it is a life mission. He always failed in the finals and he is desperate to win a title with Argentina. I seriously hope he does win it. I don't understand people who judge him by that title, for me he is the best anyway. If judgment would be about an international title, those who argue that wa would have to mention the best player of the world is always one of the team that becomes world champion or European champion.

This year Copa is a competition that is quite important for Messi, especially now that Argentina has reached the semifinals and of course Messi will give everything to make Argentina win this year  Copa, especially now that Messi is 34 years old and maybe he only has two national competitions to win the title  first time champion which is difficult to win with argentina national team, because we know that messi is a player who has won many titles for his club, but to win with national team he never managed to do it and seems to face a curse, Messi has never won even though argentina several times to the finals.
In my opinion, the best players are not only measured by their personal and club achievements, but achievements for the country are also the benchmark for a footballer to prove if they really deserve to be the best players and legends in the future.

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July 05, 2021, 06:01:05 PM
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I did not expect Uruguay to lose to Colombia. I was betting on Uruguay winning this match. But Uruguay disappointed me and they lost the match. Suarez and Cavani were the only ones to score a penalty kick for Uruguay.

Argentina now has a 2-0 lead in the match between Argentina and Ecuador. What I was guessing has happened. My prediction was that Argentina would win the match 2-0.

Edit :My guess is wrong. Argentina won the match 3-0. Messi scored the third goal on the 90th minute. A great free-kick and a great goal. The great Messi has two assists and one goal.
Messi has played great, while Di Maria is in great form. At the same time Martinez has tried his best to play well. And he has managed to score goals. I expected some better gamplay from Aguero. The next match is against Colombia. A team like Colombia can be easily defeated if all the players in the team are able to play well in their position.
i think Argentina will for sure get to the final, Colombia don't not have what it takes to beat Argentina this year, with all my respect to Colombia, but it won't be easy for Argentina, they have to perform really good, they missed a lot of chances against Ecuador, even though they won 3-0, they should be more focused in the next match to qualify and hopefully win it this year.
You are paradoxical, you say it won't be easy for Argentina and they need to focus on the match and to perform very well but on the other hand you are sure they will win the match. You've already bet against Colombia at their previous match against Uruguay and you've lost your bet so I think you're just biased against them. Colombia has a great goalkeeper David Ospina, so I think they can defeat Argentina. Anyway a final Brazil vs Colombia would be great.

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Worth taking a risk for Peru? The odd seems good although in the first round, Brazil had a 4-0 win over Peru. But it’s Semi final and we may see some unexpected event. I'm probably going for Peru to win and both team to score; not sure about the first one though.
Don't you think it’s too much underestimating? Now I got remembered the PSG vs Man U match on last year.


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July 05, 2021, 06:54:01 PM
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Brazil - Peru

game time according to my country's time will be 1h o'clock in the morning, this is the time i'm sleeping or preparing to sleep, why do these guys put those hours? Angry with so many better times they chose times when i'm sleeping, to be honest every game of this cup i had to see some parts because the times the games were happening i got sleepy and annoyed because i couldn't watch every game  Angry

Worth taking a risk for Peru?

Big " NO "

Brazil is strong, has players with a high individual level that even in tight moments can score goals, this game Brazil will win

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July 05, 2021, 07:04:27 PM
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Brazil - Peru

game time according to my country's time will be 1h o'clock in the morning, this is the time i'm sleeping or preparing to sleep, why do these guys put those hours? Angry with so many better times they chose times when i'm sleeping, to be honest every game of this cup i had to see some parts because the times the games were happening i got sleepy and annoyed because i couldn't watch every game  Angry

Worth taking a risk for Peru?

Big " NO "

Brazil is strong, has players with a high individual level that even in tight moments can score goals, this game Brazil will win

Yes, with material that is almost evenly distributed on all fronts, of course Brazil will be the seed in the match later and the mission to beat Peru on paper looks easy for Brazil.
Brazil itself has a good record in terms of competing in the 2021 Copa America, and in the country where I live the semifinal match will be at 6 am and I will not miss the match later.

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July 05, 2021, 08:33:21 PM
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Worth taking a risk for Peru? The odd seems good although in the first round, Brazil had a 4-0 win over Peru. But it’s Semi final and we may see some unexpected event. I'm probably going for Peru to win and both team to score; not sure about the first one though.
Don't you think it’s too much underestimating? Now I got remembered the PSG vs Man U match on last year.


On which sportsbook it is please? At Stake you have the same odds but a promotion is currently running, you are paid out as a winner if your team scores in the first 15 minutes (even if the other team scores in the first 15 minutes too). So I've bet on Peru, but not because I think they are able to win the game against Brazil in the regular time, but because I think they're able to score one goal during the first fifteen minutes.  Grin

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