📝[Discussion topic] Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns📝

[pawel7777]

What's the current consensus on participants applying for spots in multiple campaigns at the same time?

Is it frowned upon or acceptable?

I could argue both ways:
From the managers' perspective - it's probably a major inconvenience if accepted participants are actually not interested as they went with a different campaign.
From the participants' perspective - applying for one at a time could mean available spots in other campaigns can run out while they're patiently waiting for a response from campaign manager (which can take ages, or they could not respond at all) - which also doesn't sound very fair.

Thoughts?

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[Edwardard]

What's the current consensus on participants applying for spots in multiple campaigns at the same time?

Imo, this is just like applying for a job vacancy at different companies with your same resume. Should be acceptable as long as the person applying is a decent poster. You can easily judge the quality of interest the person has by their posting habits, etc.

From the managers' perspective - it's probably a major inconvenience if accepted participants are actually not interested as they went with a different campaign

If ppl are getting more bucks for renting their sig. space/avatar somewhere else (with a decent project), they change it. Hence, the project owners always have to keep their payrates high enough to compete with other campaigns here and attract quality posters instead of running a low budget campaign full of shtposters.
Ppl dont leave if the camp. got a good budget (for e.g. chipmixer).

[Plaguedeath]

What's the current consensus on participants applying for spots in multiple campaigns at the same time?

Is it frowned upon or acceptable?

I could argue both ways:
From the managers' perspective - it's probably a major inconvenience if accepted participants are actually not interested as they went with a different campaign.
From the participants' perspective - applying for one at a time could mean available spots in other campaigns can run out while they're patiently waiting for a response from campaign manager (which can take ages, or they could not respond at all) - which also doesn't sound very fair.

Thoughts?

There's no official consensus about it, it depends on each managers perspective.

There's a manager who ask their participants to wear signature during applying, this could be one of selection to know which user is really free and don't join other campaign. But the bad thing is, this rule will make the project get free advertisement.

There's a manager who give feedback or note on a specific user to not accept him anymore because he's a campaign jumper.

But there's a manager who doesn't do anything and no restrict rule about it.

[joker_josue]

What's the current consensus on participants applying for spots in multiple campaigns at the same time?

Is it frowned upon or acceptable?

Just as a person applies for several jobs at the same time, he can do the same with campaigns.

Since the campaigns have different rhythms, it is up to the candidate, when chosen for one, to cancel his registration in the others that are open.

If the campaign manager sees a candidate that he really wants, he should at least send a PM asking him to wait until the closing date for candidacies, guaranteeing that he will be chosen.

Do not forget that this is a market based on supply and demand, and therefore everyone has to be willing to win or lose opportunities, both candidates and campaign managers.

[LTU_btc]

What's the current consensus on participants applying for spots in multiple campaigns at the same time?

Is it frowned upon or acceptable?

I could argue both ways:
From the managers' perspective - it's probably a major inconvenience if accepted participants are actually not interested as they went with a different campaign.
From the participants' perspective - applying for one at a time could mean available spots in other campaigns can run out while they're patiently waiting for a response from campaign manager (which can take ages, or they could not respond at all) - which also doesn't sound very fair.

Thoughts?

It's probably would be best if managers themselves would tell what's their stance on it. We can only speculate. Personally, I think it's not big deal. It's inconvenience for managers if users who applied to that campaign got accepted into another. But probably not the major one.
There is good example given above - people applying to multiple jobs at the same time - it's completely normal practice. And when you get calls from both companies that you accepted, you choose that one which offer better conditions.

[snipie]

What's the current consensus on participants applying for spots in multiple campaigns at the same time?

Is it frowned upon or acceptable?

I could argue both ways:
From the managers' perspective - it's probably a major inconvenience if accepted participants are actually not interested as they went with a different campaign.
From the participants' perspective - applying for one at a time could mean available spots in other campaigns can run out while they're patiently waiting for a response from campaign manager (which can take ages, or they could not respond at all) - which also doesn't sound very fair.

Thoughts?

It is up to the campaign managers to judge about such attitudes. They can prohibit applying to other campaigns until they get an answer which should be quick in this case or wearing the signature / avatar until they get the response.
Personally, I think it should be tolerated since empty spaces get filled in few hours in general and might take months to open up again.
That's my opinion unless these people keep their applications in the other campaigns after being accepted in one of it which will be very frustrating for all parties..

[pawel7777]

It's probably would be best if managers themselves would tell what's their stance on it. We can only speculate. Personally, I think it's not big deal. It's inconvenience for managers if users who applied to that campaign got accepted into another. But probably not the major one.
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I agree, if it's a major problem for campaign manager, they could just add an extra rule in the campaign post. But I vaguely remember from the past that some managers would auto-disqualify applicants who applied for other campaigns simultaneously. I was away from this forum for a few years so just wanted to check if there are some unwritten rules nowadays.

[joker_josue]

It's probably would be best if managers themselves would tell what's their stance on it. We can only speculate. Personally, I think it's not big deal. It's inconvenience for managers if users who applied to that campaign got accepted into another. But probably not the major one.
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I agree, if it's a major problem for campaign manager, they could just add an extra rule in the campaign post. But I vaguely remember from the past that some managers would auto-disqualify applicants who applied for other campaigns simultaneously. I was away from this forum for a few years so just wanted to check if there are some unwritten rules nowadays.

If they did, I don't think it was fair!
A user, when applying for another campaign, is just trying to get a better appreciation of his work. This does not mean that he wants to stop working on the current campaign, just that he wants to improve his conditions.

If a campaign manager starts to see that many of his current users are signing up for other campaigns, this is a sign that his campaign is no longer competitive with others in the market. Then, he should evaluate this with the sponsor and see what can be done to insure users.

[pawel7777]

I agree, if it's a major problem for campaign manager, they could just add an extra rule in the campaign post. But I vaguely remember from the past that some managers would auto-disqualify applicants who applied for other campaigns simultaneously. I was away from this forum for a few years so just wanted to check if there are some unwritten rules nowadays.

If they did, I don't think it was fair!
A user, when applying for another campaign, is just trying to get a better appreciation of his work. This does not mean that he wants to stop working on the current campaign, just that he wants to improve his conditions.

If a campaign manager starts to see that many of his current users are signing up for other campaigns, this is a sign that his campaign is no longer competitive with others in the market. Then, he should evaluate this with the sponsor and see what can be done to insure users.

Sorry for not being clear - I didn't mean a situation where active participants are trying to switch to a different campaign, but when one person applies for a spot in multiple campaigns. In such case, it's probably easier for a manager to just ignore such applicants as there's no certainty they will actually be interested in taking the spot if accepted.

In the comments above people are (correctly) comparing it to applying for a job in "real life". Well, "I'm not entirely sure if I want this job. I applied for multiple other positions and want to wait and see what they say" - is probably not something you would want to say during the job interview

When there's a large demand for campaign spots, and if there are plenty of quality posters to choose from, managers can afford to be picky.

[batang_bitcoin]

Each thought about someone applying for multiple positions are correct, each opinion that has been given has a point and very valid.
I think when someone applies for multiple campaigns, it's not that even guaranteed that all of the campaigns he'd applied for will he be accepted. But yeah, if I'm a campaign manager and already had accepted someone and then later on, that accepted applicants says that he's no longer going to pursue his acceptance to the campaign, both have just wasted their times but to this, it is the campaign manager's discretion. Yeah, like everyone's opinion, as for the campaign managers - to his each own.

[julerz12]

What's the current consensus on participants applying for spots in multiple campaigns at the same time?

Is it frowned upon or acceptable?
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Thoughts?

It's fine. Happened to me a lot of times especially when a new campaign with better rates pops up, participants tends to jump in immediately to those new campaigns.
What's annoying would be not informing the bounty manager about it.
If you are moving to another signature campaign or wants to revoke your own application/reserved slot, do inform your bounty manager. Best to do that through private message here on Bitcointalk, don't do it anywhere else like on Telegram, discord. That'll help the manager to properly make changes on his campaign.
Yes, it is a bit of an inconvenience especially for signature campaigns with limited number of slots but then again, it's understandable.

[pawel7777]

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It's fine. Happened to me a lot of times especially when a new campaign with better rates pops up, participants tends to jump in immediately to those new campaigns.
What's annoying would be not informing the bounty manager about it.
If you are moving to another signature campaign or wants to revoke your own application/reserved slot, do inform your bounty manager. Best to do that through private message here on Bitcointalk, don't do it anywhere else like on Telegram, discord. That'll help the manager to properly make changes on his campaign.
Yes, it is a bit of an inconvenience especially for signature campaigns with limited number of slots but then again, it's understandable.

Yeah, not letting the campaign manager know that you left for a different campaign is weird. Perhaps some would hope they'd still accidentally get paid if manager fails to notice the changed signature.

But that kind of brings up another question should participants get paid if they completed the campaign period (usually a week) and met all the posting requirements, but switched campaigns and changed their signature before the payment date? I would say so, provided they can somehow prove that they wore the signature till the end of the period.

[yhiaali3]

But that kind of brings up another question should participants get paid if they completed the campaign period (usually a week) and met all the posting requirements, but switched campaigns and changed their signature before the payment date? I would say so, provided they can somehow prove that they wore the signature till the end of the period.

Yes, it happened to me in the Betnomi campaign run by icopress.
Three days passed the week and then I moved to a new campaign, I wrote in the thread of the Betnomi campaign that I will leave for another campaign and wear another signature.
I wasn't expecting to get any payment honestly from Betnomi but to my surprise at the end of the week icopress sent my wallet 0.0012BTC payment for the posts I wrote in the first 3 days of the week.
So I would like to take this opportunity to say thanks to icopress, for his high professionalism.

[julerz12]

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But that kind of brings up another question should participants get paid if they completed the campaign period (usually a week) and met all the posting requirements, but switched campaigns and changed their signature before the payment date? I would say so, provided they can somehow prove that they wore the signature till the end of the period.

Yes, you are right. It all boils down to the bounty manager's decision and how the entire signature campaign is laid out. There are signature campaigns out there that prohibit removing/changing your signatures mid-week of the campaign wherein doing so could get you zero rewards by the end of the week. Some are also forviging that you'll get paid even with just a couple of days of posting. A clear example is like what pawel7777 posted above. Again, what's important is proper communication between the participant and the manager. It'll make everyone's life easier.

[Solosanz]

Bump.

The campaign which I participated [OPEN] Duelbits.com | Signature Campaign ~ Full Members+ | Up to $70/Week is open for 1x Full Member and 1x Hero Member now, this campaign already run for 128 weeks or 2 years more. There are many users which already a Hero Member but they're still in Senior Member rank in the campaign currently they're participating.

I just saying here because not many users are applying, maybe they're not aware. Nowadays it's really rare to see a long term campaign open for higher rank, most likely it's only for Full Member rank.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

I just found out that CM has been seized, and that consequently, the campaign has ended. I guess some of you may not have heard about it yet, so I bumped this thread which I think is the appropriate one to comment on.

ChipMixer.com has been seized.

As ChipMixer has been seized, the campaign is now ended. Outstanding payments will be made later this week.

This quote is the last comment in the now locked thread of the campaign, written by DarkStar_.

[Plaguedeath]

I just found out that CM has been seized, and that consequently, the campaign has ended. I guess some of you may not have heard about it yet, so I bumped this thread which I think is the appropriate one to comment on.

It's really unfortunate to see Chipmixer campaign was ended, I think almost user in this forum have a dream to become a Chipmixer participant. However we've already see few mixer services got seized in the past, but now it's Chipmixer turn. But I will not be surprised if we will see a new mixer comes up sooner or later, it's might created by the same owner of Chipmixer.

However it's a good time for the other campaign to add Hero/Legendary rank slots because all of Chipmixer participants are high quality posters.

[yhiaali3]

I just found out that CM has been seized, and that consequently, the campaign has ended. I guess some of you may not have heard about it yet, so I bumped this thread which I think is the appropriate one to comment on.

ChipMixer.com has been seized.

Yes I guess everyone heard the bad news, Chipmixer was one of the best and longest running campaigns on the forum so I guess everyone is sad that the campaign ended unexpectedly.

I see this shutdown as a result of the massive campaign the US government is waging against everything that has to do with Crypto, we saw what happened with Binance and the rest of the big exchanges even the banks that deal with Crypto, then stablecoins and now it's Chipmixer's turn.

I doubt Chipmixer will be able to fix the problem and reopen the campaign because the mixers have been accused by governments of money laundering, so I don't think they will get a legal license in any country.

[LTU_btc]

It's really unfortunate to see Chipmixer campaign was ended, I think almost user in this forum have a dream to become a Chipmixer participant. However we've already see few mixer services got seized in the past, but now it's Chipmixer turn. But I will not be surprised if we will see a new mixer comes up sooner or later, it's might created by the same owner of Chipmixer.

However it's a good time for the other campaign to add Hero/Legendary rank slots because all of Chipmixer participants are high quality posters.

End of Chipmixer campaign is just consequences. It's more sad that to see what feds have done with Chipmixer. When they can take down biggest player in market, remaining mixers can't feel safe.
I don't know how many participants Chipmixer campaign had, but it was quite big campaign. And probably most of active campaigns would like to see Chipmixer participants wearing their signatures. So, they would need to raise their budget a bit if they want some quality advertising.

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However it's a good time for the other campaign to add Hero/Legendary rank slots because all of Chipmixer participants are high quality posters.

SinBad and YoMix campaigns have increased their slots for some participants who have high post quality, currently Royse777 has selected some participants from Chipmixer campaigns.

It is possible that other campaigns will also add a bigger slot with the budget provided.

The only thing is, I don't know how many participants represent Stake campaign.

It's like the stake.com campaign is in second place after the first Duelbits with more than 100 participants, while as far as I know stake.com participants are 74 and they also still need a few more slots.