📝[Discussion topic] Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns📝

[pawel7777]

2017 was the first remarkable ATH to me as campaign participant. 2018 was the year of ICO i mean lots of ICO, IDO, IEO i dont remember others but thats the reason why those stats rise and even doubled.

Yup, that's precisely why the activity was through the roof in 2018 and the primary reason for developing the merit system to prevent spam. The mechanism was simple - create another "groundbreaking" bullshit token, hire people to promote it and pay them in that token, so you had all totally free marketing and the people promoting it (if successful) were the ones giving it any value so "developers" could dump it on unexpected investors who believed in the project. Crazy times and pretty educating on how the value is created etc.

[TheUltraElite]

Crazy times and pretty educating on how the value is created etc.

Similar schemes have happened in the past too, with fiat money and traditional stock markets. Pump and dump is a good example of how seemingly fake value is created and then hordes of investors flock in only to lose their money in the dump.

I think the 2016-2018 period belongs to the ICO/ITO/STO/IDO <insert any other Initial blah blah offering in there. Now we have more bullshittery in the names of DeFi and NFT, which has done minimal impact in the long run.

If the forum want to get better traffic....well only admin can say what to do.

[Forsyth Jones]

I got this impression too, without looking at the detailed statistics. I don't know if it's because of the mixer ban, but it seems to me that the activity on the forum is significantly weaker.
They probably evaluated the results at Bestchange and may have recognized that they had reached the maximum on the forum. Looking at the history of sig campaigns here, many services ended the campaign after a short period even though they needed a slightly longer period. 4.5 years is quite long, it requires a lot of patience and of course money.

I've been on this forum for about 7 years, at the time I didn't even know there were signature campaigns going on in the forum, I joined here because here I find knowledge that i can't get on other social medias like Facebook etc. And the knowledge I was obtaining from these medias was not enough. Here are the biggest experts, there are a lot of good people here who are not just here to get money with signature campaigns.

I only heard about signature campaigns when one came up on my local board, i think i was a Full Member, it didn't pay much, but it was a great experience to understand how it works.

I believe that we can maintain our activities on the forum even if we do not participate in a paid campaign, of course everyone has their own tasks, work and sometimes there is no time to participate every day, there are days when I spend more time on this forum than on other networks social media, I spend more time reading posts than writing, I feel good here, it's a refuge from my personal problems, bitcointalk is my second home.

I hope that the trend of forum activities returns to its glory days, I hope that advertisers don't get discouraged from having their services promoted here, as this is the culture of the forum.

Of course, we shouldn't just think about getting receive money at all costs by making low quality posts, we must preserve the good practices of this forum and the signature campaigns are just the consequences of our good work.

[pawel7777]

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If the forum want to get better traffic....well only admin can say what to do.

Un-banning mixers would be a good start  .

But honestly, I get the vibe that theymos doesn't really care too much about the forum traffic and whether it's growing or shrinking and sees himself more of an heir to Satoshi's legacy (he created this forum). In other words, he approaches it as more of a custodian rather than an entrepreneur, which is probably not a bad thing.

[TheUltraElite]

Un-banning mixers would be a good start  .

The move to ban the mixers was more of a prophylactic one, assuming that the admin would get a subpoena sometime in future in case mixers were kept active to be promoted on this forum and the forum was being run by its admin, that makes the admin responsible for the popularity of the mixer, in theory of course.

Hence un-banning of mixers will not happen in any time in future.

I cant say, if theymos has already received subpeona regarding the mixers and then they decided to stop them. If you were the admin you would understand the stress of this situation.

[pawel7777]

The move to ban the mixers was more of a prophylactic one, assuming that the admin would get a subpoena sometime in future in case mixers were kept active to be promoted on this forum and the forum was being run by its admin, that makes the admin responsible for the popularity of the mixer, in theory of course.

Yeah, that was more of a precaution move, but I don't think it was as simple as him being afraid that he could be linked to the service that is advertised here. Otherwise most services would be banned, including casinos. In the past we had some of them turning scams etc.
So the situation is probably much more nuanced, but things got serious when one of the mixers turned out to be ran by North Korea, and the last thing you want is to have CIA on your back.

[pawel7777]

A new campaign popped up today and, if I'm not mistaken, looks like it will be the highest-paying campaign out there, with a current rate for Legendary of $5 per post, max. 25/week, so up to $125/week.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5498328.0
I'm happy where I am, so I'm not looking to jump ship, but it's always good to see rates going up and new businesses coming in, especially when it's an exchange and not yet another casino.
I'm completely unaware of Zeusmix, but hoping it's not a mixer in disguise and that participants/organisers won't get banned by theymos.

[BossJumong]

A new campaign popped up today and, if I'm not mistaken, looks like it will be the highest-paying campaign out there, with a current rate for Legendary of $5 per post, max. 25/week, so up to $125/week.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5498328.0
I'm happy where I am, so I'm not looking to jump ship, but it's always good to see rates going up and new businesses coming in, especially when it's an exchange and not yet another casino.
I'm completely unaware of Zeusmix, but hoping it's not a mixer in disguise and that participants/organisers won't get banned by theymos.

That's also comes in my mind after visiting that site. It look like a mixer IMO. Regardless Mixer or Exchange hopefully it will last like BestChanges.

[logfiles]

I'm completely unaware of Zeusmix, but hoping it's not a mixer in disguise and that participants/organisers won't get banned by theymos.

If they had come as "Zeus.exchange" or "ZeusEx", would we still be speculating if it's a mixer or an exchange? I don't think so. It's simply an exchange that does not require KYC, just like exch.cx and many others. You can also test it out to confirm 

My only worry is that LE starts going after NoKYC exchanges and then admin starts banning them too from here. In a meantime, let's enjoy the present. Let enjoy the ride.

[Potato Chips]

Zeusmix should be fine IMO as they don't meet the returning almost the same property rule (e.g. BTC to BTC) theymos talked about as a part what makes a mixer.

But I have a feeling the mixer accusation will continue to pop up every now and then because of the brand name lol.

[NotATether]

My only worry is that LE starts going after NoKYC exchanges and then admin starts banning them too from here. In a meantime, let's enjoy the present. Let enjoy the ride.

Man, when someone asks how can they convert their BTC to ETH we'll have to tell them to use Coinbase? 🤮

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Man, when someone asks how can they convert their BTC to ETH we'll have to tell them to use Coinbase? 🤮

No, tell them to go to the local bank and get the crypto from there.

They will take your picture, identity card, finger print. They will also take your spouse's picture, identity card, finger print. They may also consider seeing you and your spouse is kissing each others and probably will take you two in separate rooms. Then they will ask information about your private parts just to be sure that you are couple. 🤪

[pawel7777]

If they had come as "Zeus.exchange" or "ZeusEx", would we still be speculating if it's a mixer or an exchange? I don't think so. It's simply an exchange that does not require KYC, just like exch.cx and many others. You can also test it out to confirm 

Not gonna lie, I based my post solely on their name.
But having a glance at their site, it looks like a regular instant exchange. Then again, if you think about it, a non-KYC exchanges are not that much different from mixers, i.e. you could use them for the same purpose, unless the exchange is keeping records (and is willing to share them with authorities) that can link the depositing and withdrawing addresses.

No, tell them to go to the local bank and get the crypto from there.

They will take your picture, identity card, finger print. They will also take your spouse's picture, identity card, finger print. They may also consider seeing you and your spouse is kissing each others and probably will take you two in separate rooms. Then they will ask information about your private parts just to be sure that you are couple. 🤪

You reminded me of the time I was buying a used car and paid with bank transfer. Transfer got blocked and I had to call the bank to let it through. After being on hold for literally 1 hour, I had to answer dozens of questions incl. what am I buying, the name of the seller, where did I know him from, where did I got my money from, was I under duress etc. Experiences of that sort really makes you appreciate cryptocurrencies.

[LTU_btc]

If they had come as "Zeus.exchange" or "ZeusEx", would we still be speculating if it's a mixer or an exchange? I don't think so. It's simply an exchange that does not require KYC, just like exch.cx and many others. You can also test it out to confirm 

Not gonna lie, I based my post solely on their name.
But having a glance at their site, it looks like a regular instant exchange. Then again, if you think about it, a non-KYC exchanges are not that much different from mixers, i.e. you could use them for the same purpose, unless the exchange is keeping records (and is willing to share them with authorities) that can link the depositing and withdrawing addresses.

Word ''Mix'' is trigger here but it looks like another non-KYC exchange. It's possible to view such exchanges as mixers, but I hope it won't happen. If it will happen, then I will say that the end is near.
Nice to see new high paying campaign popping up, interesting how long it's going to last.

[examplens]

If they had come as "Zeus.exchange" or "ZeusEx", would we still be speculating if it's a mixer or an exchange? I don't think so. It's simply an exchange that does not require KYC, just like exch.cx and many others. You can also test it out to confirm 

Not gonna lie, I based my post solely on their name.
But having a glance at their site, it looks like a regular instant exchange. Then again, if you think about it, a non-KYC exchanges are not that much different from mixers, i.e. you could use them for the same purpose, unless the exchange is keeping records (and is willing to share them with authorities) that can link the depositing and withdrawing addresses.

Word ''Mix'' is trigger here but it looks like another non-KYC exchange. It's possible to view such exchanges as mixers, but I hope it won't happen. If it will happen, then I will say that the end is near.
Nice to see new high paying campaign popping up, interesting how long it's going to last.

They may have "mix" in their name, but they have indicated that they have AML control and will not accept risky coins. This makes them quite different from any mixer.
They are NO-KYC, but they will not allow the exchange process if the coins do not comply with AML. The only difference compared to most other services with AML is that they do not freeze the funds but send them back to the sender.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

If they had come as "Zeus.exchange" or "ZeusEx", would we still be speculating if it's a mixer or an exchange? I don't think so. It's simply an exchange that does not require KYC, just like exch.cx and many others. You can also test it out to confirm 

Not gonna lie, I based my post solely on their name.
But having a glance at their site, it looks like a regular instant exchange. Then again, if you think about it, a non-KYC exchanges are not that much different from mixers, i.e. you could use them for the same purpose, unless the exchange is keeping records (and is willing to share them with authorities) that can link the depositing and withdrawing addresses.

Word ''Mix'' is trigger here but it looks like another non-KYC exchange. It's possible to view such exchanges as mixers, but I hope it won't happen. If it will happen, then I will say that the end is near.
Nice to see new high paying campaign popping up, interesting how long it's going to last.

They may have "mix" in their name, but they have indicated that they have AML control and will not accept risky coins. This makes them quite different from any mixer.
They are NO-KYC, but they will not allow the exchange process if the coins do not comply with AML. The only difference compared to most other services with AML is that they do not freeze the funds but send them back to the sender.

Latest update. "mix" changed to "mex" 😂
I think it's a good choice now.

[Forsyth Jones]

A new campaign popped up today and, if I'm not mistaken, looks like it will be the highest-paying campaign out there, with a current rate for Legendary of $5 per post, max. 25/week, so up to $125/week.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5498328.0
I'm happy where I am, so I'm not looking to jump ship, but it's always good to see rates going up and new businesses coming in, especially when it's an exchange and not yet another casino.
I'm completely unaware of Zeusmix, but hoping it's not a mixer in disguise and that participants/organisers won't get banned by theymos.

Same feeling, after almost 1 month at a standstill, with no openings for existing campaigns and no new campaigns, 2 new campaigns finally appeared. Unfortunately, I didn't catch the period when the average weekly payments were more higher, as I simply wanted to improve my account ranking. Added to the fact that I spent almost 4 years without being active on the forum, I still don't know why I made that decision but I will never do that again. I'm very grateful to be in a Duelbits campaign now.