📝[Discussion topic] Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns📝

[Little Mouse]

but I also know that sometimes this is not easy.

Only quality projects are convinced, and you know they sustain themselves in the industry.
Stake, rollbit, roobet, duelbits, shuffle, metawin, chipsgg
Look at all these campaigns, they have been running for a long time and have achieved the desired output.

[joker_josue]

but I also know that sometimes this is not easy.

Only quality projects are convinced, and you know they sustain themselves in the industry.
Stake, rollbit, roobet, duelbits, shuffle, metawin, chipsgg
Look at all these campaigns, they have been running for a long time and have achieved the desired output.

This type of campaign usually takes a little longer to take effect, but the effects are greater and long-lasting. Explaining this and convincing people of this is not easy if the advertiser only thinks about the immediate and not the medium/long term.

I'm sorry I don't see other crypto companies advertising here, not just betting companies. Can you explain why?

[Forsyth Jones]

I have a question. Many well-known users, including those with a excelent reputation, create threads announcing their availability to rent out their signature space (or simply post it in their signature area).

Has this worked? Do people contact you to negotiate?

Yeah sometimes the number seems to be higher itself but many signature campaigns are running just for a month or two to expose their names to the community. Others have like 7-10 members .
My concerns are mostly about the quality rather than quantity. Even some managers announced that the campaign will last at least x weeks or months and promised to run for x additional weeks after the announcement of closure of the campaign but didn't keep their promise. I don't blame them, I blame the strategy of these campaigns to use the forum members that way.

That's right, they're trying to evaluate now if that strategy of running a campaign for a couple of weeks to months has already given them their edge of making their names exposed to the public.

We can't blame them for that and in fact, we should be happy that they're looking at the forum which is a good place for them to advertise their services.

Even they won't last long like the most effective one of running their campaigns in the longer term.

I think short-term campaigns will always exist. The good part is that there are practically always campaigns available to apply for on the bitcointalk. I feel sorry for the members users, there're practically no more campaigns for them.

[snipie]

I have a question. Many well-known users, including those with a excelent reputation, create threads announcing their availability to rent out their signature space (or simply post it in their signature area).

Has this worked? Do people contact you to negotiate?

I am not directly concerned by this question but some of these members had rented their signature and/or their avatar, at least in the past since I no longer care about that.
There is other thing maybe not all of them do it intentionally but important, is to be accepted easily in signature campaigns and sometimes have a special deal with extra payments comparing to the other members with the same rank.

[pawel7777]

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I'm sorry I don't see other crypto companies advertising here, not just betting companies. Can you explain why?

There aren't that many crypto companies types if you think about that. The major ones are exchanges, but they became mainstream and can advertise at a much greater scale than bitcointalk.
Casinos are a bit different as they suffer much greater restrictions when it comes to advertising, so they're much more keen on exploring non-standard advertising options (like signature campaigns).
Mixers were another type of business but we all know what happened to them  I still miss them.

[sunsilk]

I have a question. Many well-known users, including those with a excelent reputation, create threads announcing their availability to rent out their signature space (or simply post it in their signature area).

Has this worked? Do people contact you to negotiate?

I think for most of them, it worked.

That's right, they're trying to evaluate now if that strategy of running a campaign for a couple of weeks to months has already given them their edge of making their names exposed to the public.

We can't blame them for that and in fact, we should be happy that they're looking at the forum which is a good place for them to advertise their services.

Even they won't last long like the most effective one of running their campaigns in the longer term.

I think short-term campaigns will always exist. The good part is that there are practically always campaigns available to apply for on the bitcointalk.

Yes, there will always be the short term. From 1 week to a month. That really depends on the budget that they'll have.

It's also like testing the waters for them but they won't get the maximum exposure and results by just having it in the short term and they know it.

I feel sorry for the members users, there're practically no more campaigns for them.

You don't have to, it's understandable that campaigns have tight budget.

[MotoLM]

I'm sorry I don't see other crypto companies advertising here, not just betting companies. Can you explain why?

pawel7777 explained it.
I still believe that it's a great place for small crypto projects. Regardless of how many spam bounty hunters are here or how many users use this forum for sig camp only, all of them are into crypto.

Has this worked? Do people contact you to negotiate?

Although you haven't quoted me, I suppose this was a question to me.

Has this worked? It barely works tbh. Only a few users got campaign from their thread and they are high quality users. I can't remember if I ever reach someone from such a thread. Once reached LoyceV and he denied because of his local laws of advertising casinos or something like this.

People contact me for negotiation. Again, the number isn't that high. I had a few users in my campaigns from DM.

I feel sorry for the members users, there're practically no more campaigns for them.

You don't have to, it's understandable that campaigns have tight budget.

It's not because of tight budget. If it was for tight budget, member slot would be the best as they are cheap.
Campaign managers don't offer slots for member because of the visibility (limitations of their signature design).

[joker_josue]

I'm sorry I don't see other crypto companies advertising here, not just betting companies. Can you explain why?

pawel7777 explained it.
I still believe that it's a great place for small crypto projects. Regardless of how many spam bounty hunters are here or how many users use this forum for sig camp only, all of them are into crypto.

Exactly. What's even stranger is seeing so few of these new projects being announced. Sometimes one or two pop up, but it's very rare.

[sunsilk]

I feel sorry for the members users, there're practically no more campaigns for them.

You don't have to, it's understandable that campaigns have tight budget.

It's not because of tight budget. If it was for tight budget, member slot would be the best as they are cheap.
Campaign managers don't offer slots for member because of the visibility (limitations of their signature design).

Ahh, yes.

That's another thing. Not all members get those slots because they've got very little signature space and not yet allowed to have the display of avatar which is a big thing for campaigns to display theirs.

I think I was confused about members and users and understood it with members/users, my bad.

[logfiles]

I'm sorry I don't see other crypto companies advertising here, not just betting companies. Can you explain why?

It all goes well, casinos make a lot of money and get bigger. The only other industry players that can rival Casinos are exchanges and the now banned crypto mixers, but exchanges seem to prefer a referral kind of approach. Maybe it works for them better than the advertising traditional way.

If you look at other players like noncustodial wallets, crypto card services, payment processors etc, I don't think they can raise as much money as a casino can do for advertisement.

[joker_josue]

I'm sorry I don't see other crypto companies advertising here, not just betting companies. Can you explain why?

It all goes well, casinos make a lot of money and get bigger. The only other industry players that can rival Casinos are exchanges and the now banned crypto mixers, but exchanges seem to prefer a referral kind of approach. Maybe it works for them better than the advertising traditional way.

If you look at other players like noncustodial wallets, crypto card services, payment processors etc, I don't think they can raise as much money as a casino can do for advertisement.

In fact, the casino manages to raise more money and in turn has more money to spend on advertising.

But other services also spend money on advertising, albeit at slightly lower rates. Perhaps they don't earn as much because they don't advertise themselves.

How many services do you encounter long after they were created, that if they had been announced, you would have used sooner?

Since I don't have metrics, and perhaps even campaign managers are limited in this information, it's more difficult to get a true idea of ​​the impact a forum campaign can have. Perhaps what's missing is this: information to attract more advertisers.




Question for campaign managers: What information do you feel is missing that would be useful to attract more advertisers?

[Forsyth Jones]

Although you haven't quoted me, I suppose this was a question to me.

Has this worked? It barely works tbh. Only a few users got campaign from their thread and they are high quality users. I can't remember if I ever reach someone from such a thread. Once reached LoyceV and he denied because of his local laws of advertising casinos or something like this.

People contact me for negotiation. Again, the number isn't that high. I had a few users in my campaigns from DM.

Thank you for answering my question so clearly, and the same goes for the others who replied as well. Being a high-quality user really makes a huge difference, and this can only be achieved through genuine and natural means, such as enjoying participating in discussions about crypto, iGaming in general, etc.

In fact, the casino manages to raise more money and in turn has more money to spend on advertising.

But other services also spend money on advertising, albeit at slightly lower rates. Perhaps they don't earn as much because they don't advertise themselves.

How many services do you encounter long after they were created, that if they had been announced, you would have used sooner?

Since I don't have metrics, and perhaps even campaign managers are limited in this information, it's more difficult to get a true idea of ​​the impact a forum campaign can have. Perhaps what's missing is this: information to attract more advertisers.


Question for campaign managers: What information do you feel is missing that would be useful to attract more advertisers?

By the way, there's a really cool website that can help both campaign managers and participants manage their posting requirements, etc.

The website is: https://signatools.net/

[pawel7777]

Open question:

What kind of crypto businesses (other than casinos) do you think could benefit from advertising on Bitcointalk?
I think one of the major advantages of this forum is that we have quite a lot of people who are earning in crypto, be it signature campaigns, mining/staking or other. This should be a good target audience for global online businesses that allow anonymous spending on goods/services. So those who are earning in crypto and want to cash out to buy the same type of goods/services could spend crypto directly there, without having to exchange it first. And if such purchases are done anonymously, a person could also escape taxation by just not declaring crypto earnings.

If I were in the campaign management business, I'd probably pitch businesses like bitrefill.com or similar. I think they could find a lot of potentially lifelong customers here.

[joker_josue]

By the way, there's a really cool website that can help both campaign managers and participants manage their posting requirements, etc.

The website is: https://signatools.net/

I didn't know about this site. Thanks for sharing.

It seems like a recent project to me, but with good potential, we hope it continues to evolve.

Open question:

What kind of crypto businesses (other than casinos) do you think could benefit from advertising on Bitcointalk?
I think one of the major advantages of this forum is that we have quite a lot of people who are earning in crypto, be it signature campaigns, mining/staking or other. This should be a good target audience for global online businesses that allow anonymous spending on goods/services. So those who are earning in crypto and want to cash out to buy the same type of goods/services could spend crypto directly there, without having to exchange it first. And if such purchases are done anonymously, a person could also escape taxation by just not declaring crypto earnings.

If I were in the campaign management business, I'd probably pitch businesses like bitrefill.com or similar. I think they could find a lot of potentially lifelong customers here.

I think you already mention some.

I wouldn't say companies like bitrefill.com, which are already large and well-known companies. They already have good SEO and are known by virtually every forum user.
However, smaller exchange, swap, crypto services, and similar companies would be good companies to advertise on the forum.

How many times do you discover a really interesting and useful service when someone happens to post about it? Then you learn that the service has been around for a year or two, but you only discovered it now, almost by chance. If this company had advertised here on the forum, even if it was for a few months, it would certainly have found many potential users here.

Perhaps sometimes the problem for these smaller companies is the ability to secure funds for a minimally effective campaign. But we also know that most of these companies have investors with substantial funding. I'm not saying all of them, but many do.

[Jawhead999]

If I were in the campaign management business, I'd probably pitch businesses like bitrefill.com or similar. I think they could find a lot of potentially lifelong customers here.

Don't take this personally, but why not you? I believe anyone can be a campaign manager, the difference is whether it's ended up they accept or reject your offer. It's not about the result, however we have a choice to try or not.

How many times do you discover a really interesting and useful service when someone happens to post about it? Then you learn that the service has been around for a year or two, but you only discovered it now, almost by chance. If this company had advertised here on the forum, even if it was for a few months, it would certainly have found many potential users here.

Not all projects are created for long term purpose.

Many projects run advertisement because they're new and want to scam, usually they have a red flag(s). If they promote in other social medias/forums, they may be safe because sometime big advertisement could beat fact.

In this forum, if the official representative has more negative tag than positive feedback, it drives away people's interest.

[pawel7777]

I wouldn't say companies like bitrefill.com, which are already large and well-known companies. They already have good SEO and are known by virtually every forum user.
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The reason I mentioned them is that I wasn't really aware of them until recently and I find their services really useful. I was somewhat familiar with the name but not much more than that.

If I were in the campaign management business, I'd probably pitch businesses like bitrefill.com or similar. I think they could find a lot of potentially lifelong customers here.

Don't take this personally, but why not you? I believe anyone can be a campaign manager, the difference is whether it's ended up they accept or reject your offer. It's not about the result, however we have a choice to try or not.

Simply because I'm not in the signature management business (I was offered a campaign manager position once before but didn't go for it). I enjoy the little earning boost from participating in campaigns, but managing such is a different level thing. Especially when you want to offer a comprehensive service, including analytics etc, and if you want to be a representative of a large and established business.
So I don't have much vested interest in attracting new businesses to this forum, but we already have quite a few people who are better and much more experienced in this than I am.

[joker_josue]

Not all projects are created for long term purpose.

Many projects run advertisement because they're new and want to scam, usually they have a red flag(s). If they promote in other social medias/forums, they may be safe because sometime big advertisement could beat fact.

In this forum, if the official representative has more negative tag than positive feedback, it drives away people's interest.

Yet another reason why forums are a good marketing tool. No one legitimate wants to be associated with negative things. The forum's reputation as a rigorous community that combats fraud should be an excellent motivator for attracting ads from credible companies.

I wouldn't say companies like bitrefill.com, which are already large and well-known companies. They already have good SEO and are known by virtually every forum user.
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The reason I mentioned them is that I wasn't really aware of them until recently and I find their services really useful. I was somewhat familiar with the name but not much more than that.

Excellent example. It really shows that well-known companies could benefit from advertising on the forum. Sometimes showing stories like yours could be a way to show how important it is to advertise on the forum.

I think we all find the most crypto-related services through the forum. Waiting for someone to mention them in a thread or post can take a long time. It would be quicker to announce them here, if the opportunity arose.


I don't know specifically how campaign managers go about acquiring clients. But perhaps it could be interesting (if they aren't already) to reach out to other companies in the sector, even larger ones, and invite them to try advertising on the forum.