For Nvidia GPU miners on ETH, why using Phoenix miner instead of T-Rex miner?

[Didz]

Hey guys, I would like to know why some Nvidia GPU miners on ETH use Phoenix miner instead of T-Rex miner?

T-Rex miner software gives you higher hash rate for NVIDIA graphics cards.
Is it because of the dev fee?
T-Rex dev fee: 1%
VS
PhoenixMiner 0.65%

For the higher amount of hash rate you get from T-Rex, I'm pretty sure it covers the dev fee difference. I haven't made the calculation (who really can?, too many factors in play that we don't control).

Bottom line, isn't a no-brainer, mining ETH with Nvidia cards is more profitable on T-Rex compared to PhoenixMiner?

I have been mining ETH with T-Rex miner for the last 6 weeks and it's super steady in fact I had to change from Phoenix miner because I was having stability issues, this is when I realized wow the hash rate is higher on T-Rex miner for Nvidia GPUS.

[nsummy]

I was using phoenix miner with no problems, I bought a 3060 ti though and it was completely unstable on Phoenix.  Switching over to T-Rex solved it.

[swogerino]

I use it because I have a mixed rig together with AMD and NVIDIA-s as my main mining machine.At home I use T-rex for mining Raven for fun with a 1050 ti.I would of course switch to T-Rex if he makes a multi vendor GPU miner as I see it is really good.

[GKumaran]

I have the same doubt with AMD cards, why do they use phoenix instead of teamredminer.

As for most common replies,

• Built in clock control
• AMD and Nvidia support
• Higher Hashrate, this is the crazy part, phoenix displays a higher hashrate than trm and trex, but way slower pool side, but i guess to the causal miner it doesnt matter !!

[Didz]

I was using phoenix miner with no problems, I bought a 3060 ti though and it was completely unstable on Phoenix.  Switching over to T-Rex solved it.

Exactly! I don't understand why Phoenix miner is the most popular miner software for GPU ETH. One of the developper of Phoenix miner I saw his ETH address, he was making 30,000 $ per day! It was one month ago so maybe today he is making 20,000$ per day, crazy.

[Didz]

I have the same doubt with AMD cards, why do they use phoenix instead of teamredminer.

As for most common replies,

• Built in clock control
• AMD and Nvidia support
• Higher Hashrate, this is the crazy part, phoenix displays a higher hashrate than trm and trex, but way slower pool side, but i guess to the causal miner it doesnt matter !!

With my NVidia cards 1660s and 3070, I have higher hash rate with T-Rex miner compared to Phoenix miner.

[Xazax310]

Pheonix Miner is junk with 2000/3000 series Nvidia cards.

IMHO T-rex is good, but use Gminer. Gminer has been extremely stable for me and only 0.65% DevFee on ETH.

[FP91G]

https://2miners.com/blog/best-ethereum-mining-software-for-nvidia-and-amd/
"The only open-source mining software Ethminer came third. It doesn’t charge a developer’s fee, so hashrates in the program and in the pool are almost identical with a 0.01% difference. As you can see, if mining software is free, it doesn’t mean that you get more profit. If you choose Gminer or T-rex, you gain more."

[skablast]

I think that the people learned Phoenix and simply some of them keep using it.

Regarding the 2miner test its an old one from february  and with a very weird test approach , as they use  a "special pool" with very low difficulty 136x lower . That is slighty different from the real condition.

In real mining I choose to use LOLminer simply because its the only one that give you the chance using two different stratum so, I can mine eth + zil without interruption in 2 miners eth  + shardpool zil .

That are , on my view and with the card that I use, the best paying pools.

The alternative is to use Trex and TRM and mining in Ezil, but I found that I make much more Zil (2x) with LOL in 2miners+shardpool.

I tried mining using the stratum passthrough with other miners rather than LOL, but sometimes the passthrough of the pool doesn't work well.

On my small sample 3 mixed rigs, the slower card benefit more than the 3070 in term of number of Zil shares hitted during the zil session.
 
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[sxemini]

I think that the people learned Phoenix and simply some of them keep using it.

Regarding the 2miner test its an old one from february  and with a very weird test approach , as they use  a "special pool" with very low difficulty 136x lower . That is slighty different from the real condition.

In real mining I choose to use LOLminer simply because its the only one that give you the chance using two different stratum so, I can mine eth + zil without interruption in 2 miners eth  + shardpool zil .

That are , on my view and with the card that I use, the best paying pools.

The alternative is to use Trex and TRM and mining in Ezil, but I found that I make much more Zil (2x) with LOL in 2miners+shardpool.

I tried mining using the stratum passthrough with other miners rather than LOL, but sometimes the passthrough of the pool doesn't work well.

On my small sample 3 mixed rigs, the slower card benefit more than the 3070 in term of number of Zil shares hitted during the zil session.
 
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Teamred has the same function to mine direct to eth pool and second to zil -> but direct over zil proxy give more hashrate, because they switch fast than the miner with 2 stratum connections. This is the result of my tests.
And most zil you get with rustpool, many can confirm this.

[skablast]

TRM doesn't work  with the green card  that I have in the same rig. And its 1 % so more than LoL
But you are right for rustpool, may be its better than shardpool ( haven't  tested yet), but both are much better then ezil

[Didz]

Pheonix Miner is junk with 2000/3000 series Nvidia cards.

IMHO T-rex is good, but use Gminer. Gminer has been extremely stable for me and only 0.65% DevFee on ETH.

Let me know Xazax310 if you got better hash rate for ETH than that on Gminer:

1660 Super: 31.82 MH/s
3070: 62.37 MH/s

[Didz]

Pheonix Miner is junk with 2000/3000 series Nvidia cards.

IMHO T-rex is good, but use Gminer. Gminer has been extremely stable for me and only 0.65% DevFee on ETH.

Let me know Xazax310 if you got better hash rate for ETH than that on Gminer:

1660 Super: 31.82 MH/s
3070: 62.37 MH/s

Hey GMiner it's 2% dev fee not 0.65%.
https://cryptomining-blog.com/tag/gminer-nvidia/#:~:text=Do%20note%20that%20GMiner%20is,higher%20than%202%25%20as%20well!

[Didz]

I think that the people learned Phoenix and simply some of them keep using it.

Regarding the 2miner test its an old one from february  and with a very weird test approach , as they use  a "special pool" with very low difficulty 136x lower . That is slighty different from the real condition.

In real mining I choose to use LOLminer simply because its the only one that give you the chance using two different stratum so, I can mine eth + zil without interruption in 2 miners eth  + shardpool zil .

That are , on my view and with the card that I use, the best paying pools.

The alternative is to use Trex and TRM and mining in Ezil, but I found that I make much more Zil (2x) with LOL in 2miners+shardpool.

I tried mining using the stratum passthrough with other miners rather than LOL, but sometimes the passthrough of the pool doesn't work well.

On my small sample 3 mixed rigs, the slower card benefit more than the 3070 in term of number of Zil shares hitted during the zil session.
 
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skablast with your 3070 how many MH/s on ETH you do with your dual mining set up?

[skablast]

Didz, I am around 61 but with 108 watts because Kwh cost here is 30 cents!
 

[7deadlyBTCIN]

I've tried Trex and phoenix miner and I can say that their performance on ETH algorithm isn't that differ, for some cards like gtx1660 super the outcome performance is the same so it's a matter of choice for anyone, the two mining software are good enough

[mak013]

Mostly, you have to test every new version of miner because some small changes can increase your hashrate. But as i tested - the difference between 1 and 2 place are so small. that it does not matter. But it was Gminer and T-rex. The Phoenix miner has lower hashrate, when i tested - it was 2-3%.

[sxemini]

TRM doesn't work  with the green card  that I have in the same rig. And its 1 % so more than LoL
But you are right for rustpool, may be its better than shardpool ( haven't  tested yet), but both are much better then ezil

I know that TRM is only for AMD -> but that was not the message. Use T-Rex miner and only rustpool direct -> give more than lolminer with 2 connections -> because the switch needs to much time and hashrate is shortly decreased -> only mining direct over the rustpool proxy give more overall hashrate.

Pheonix Miner is junk with 2000/3000 series Nvidia cards.

IMHO T-rex is good, but use Gminer. Gminer has been extremely stable for me and only 0.65% DevFee on ETH.

Let me know Xazax310 if you got better hash rate for ETH than that on Gminer:

1660 Super: 31.82 MH/s
3070: 62.37 MH/s

Hey GMiner it's 2% dev fee not 0.65%.
https://cryptomining-blog.com/tag/gminer-nvidia/#:~:text=Do%20note%20that%20GMiner%20is,higher%20than%202%25%20as%20well!

Lol you see the screenshot on your link? How much fee you see in this picture? Right 0.65% for ethash!!!! Read carefully next time. Don´t use such outdated sites like cryptomining-blog and look at the developers page if you don´t know the right fee!!!!!

[Didz]

Didz, I am around 61 but with 108 watts because Kwh cost here is 30 cents!
 

OMG 30 cents per Kw/h, where are you California? Here in Québec we are at 8.8 cents per Kw/h from 100% green energy source.

I installed a massive commercial AC Mitsubishi in my garage, I keep the temperature always at 23 degrees celsius (73 fahrenheit for people in the US). At 30 cents per Kw/h the AC would become sooo expensive. My AC cost me in average 4 CAD/day.

[Didz]

I've tried Trex and phoenix miner and I can say that their performance on ETH algorithm isn't that differ, for some cards like gtx1660 super the outcome performance is the same so it's a matter of choice for anyone, the two mining software are good enough

For me on HiveOS for one 1660s, when I switched from Phoenix miner to T-Rex miner, if I remember well I gained something like +1 MH/s on ETH.

It seems that many people mine on Windows. It's so not optimal...