Cryptocurrency Market Manipulation Logic?

[leea-1334]

You really don't need an expert to tell you what really happened, you have big investors like Elon Musk and his companies investing billions of dollars into bitcoin, and that created so much hype and excitement in the community that made so many people invest more and that drove then price up, and than he suddenly drops out because of environmental problems caused by mining, and china actually taking serious measures against bitcoin miners and the panic that all of that caused so many people to sell that drove the price down.

He did not just drop out because of environmental problems.
1. He did not sell (not all) of the Bitcoin that Tesla owned. Even if he wanted to am sure he does not have the final say.
2. He only said Tesla stopped accepting BTC. But when they did, who bought Teslas with BTC anyway?

[coiner-88]

clearly brilliant cash taking benefit on the pinnacle then, at that point chain response follows for those enormous players that didn't take benefit at top. This is only a cycle on crypto so need to stress. To appropriately portray each market move you would have to know the plans and methodologies of the vast majority of the market members which is outlandish except if you have a precious stone ball or you're a very experienced telepath who can deal with the considerations of millions of individuals immediately.

[Hypnosis00]

You really don't need an expert to tell you what really happened, you have big investors like Elon Musk and his companies investing billions of dollars into bitcoin, and that created so much hype and excitement in the community that made so many people invest more and that drove then price up, and than he suddenly drops out because of environmental problems caused by mining, and china actually taking serious measures against bitcoin miners and the panic that all of that caused so many people to sell that drove the price down.

He did not just drop out because of environmental problems.
1. He did not sell (not all) of the Bitcoin that Tesla owned. Even if he wanted to am sure he does not have the final say.
2. He only said Tesla stopped accepting BTC. But when they did, who bought Teslas with BTC anyway?

That so happens that whales manipulate the market and one of them is Elon Musk. But for now, I tried to forget his name and to accept that the crypto market has already in a curse of manipulation. Many of these whales just keep themselves anonymously, we don't know that some of them are government officials or known personalities.
Even though we don't like the idea of being manipulated but we know also that these people make the market alive and help the market to grow. In fact, we can't also deny that small investors are benefiting the market when there is hype happens. We are also in profit just like them.

[lixer]

can explain the reason behind those huge pump and dumped of BTC?

When there are possibilities for happening of pumping, then you need to be prepared to face dumping also. No market can move in one direction all the times but basically bitcoin is designed to have huge value over the time due to its limited supply hence we can expect bumping to be happening over the years but in between years we can expect dumping also to be happening which may happen up to 70% of each ATH (as that past events).

Crypto market is untrustable as any person having a status/huge bank balance can easily manipulate the market as Elon Musk did.

No, you are wrong. If bitcoin is not trustable just because of with the reason of easy manipulation, then how you got chances to see bitcoin is growing from $400/$700 to current levels of 30k+ ? People who are investing into bitcoin must need to understand its high volatile nature. If you're able to hold it for years then you can easily eliminate the problem of high volatile nature of bitcoin.

[Lanatsa]

Greeting BT Users,

As I am involved in the crypto world for the past 3-5 years and closely watching BTC when its price was around $400 - $700. When the BTC first pumped in 2017/2018 than it creates chaos in the whole world and more and more users are attracted because of the profit they see, but when the price suddenly down and BTC dumped to $5000 from $20k then a lot of new as well as experience users lost their money and also trust from Cryptocurrency.

Recently BTC again pumped and the price reached $60k and was predicted to touch the target of $100k but again the BTC price dumped around $35k - $38k. From all this pump and dumped I did not yet UNDERSTAND that why and how this happens and the difference is huge. BTC is considered the king of the crypto world and it causes the price Pump and Dumped of all the coins. Also Crypto market is untrustable as any person having a status/huge bank balance can easily manipulate the market as Elon Musk did.

Any expert can explain the reason behind those huge pump and dumped of BTC?

You really don't need an expert to tell you what really happened, you have big investors like Elon Musk and his companies investing billions of dollars into bitcoin, and that created so much hype and excitement in the community that made so many people invest more and that drove then price up, and than he suddenly drops out because of environmental problems caused by mining, and china actually taking serious measures against bitcoin miners and the panic that all of that caused so many people to sell that drove the price down.

The market had always been like this on where we do already experiencing some good run then here goes with those issues that do just pop out from nowhere.

Is this something new that we had seen on this market?No its not and its been part of the market where these fuds and events do really happen along the way.

The idea of manipulation is something obvious and we could even tell in our very own eyes on how things been going but we cant do anything about it
as big players would really stepped into the game.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Well, I personally don't think every ups and downs bitcoin and the entire crypto market has made are purely based on manipulation, though manipulation do come in at certain periods like we witnessed in the days of late John McAfee and this days with Elon musk, every tradable assets with fluctuations in price is liable to go up in price and down as well, and speaking of crypto directly now, this industry is still very young with a lot of newbies who are much more after quick gains than holding for long term, so for this set of individuals, when ever they see the price a bitcoin going up due to some person or persons buying large amount of coins, they assume the market is about to explode so they begin to jump in to buy causing the price to go up more, this is what we call fomo or fear of loosing out or panic buying.
Likewise when some one or group of individuals sell lots of coins causing the price to drop a bit, this same set of individual then think the market is dumping and jump in and start selling their holdings sometimes, for the purpose of buying back at a lower price, this is what we call fud which means fear, uncertainty, doubt, or panic selling.
This is what I think.

[Ziskinberg]

We can never hide the thing Manipulation. I can say that this the nature of the crypto investment, rich people can make such a thing in order to get a favor on the market. What going to happen with us as normal investors? We are simply riding with them and the market as well. We also buy at low and sell at high accordingly. Thought that they are only benefiting a lot, well, of course, we are also benefiting as well.

I think the time has come that we need to accept the reality inside the crypto market as possible that we can never stop this thing until forever.

[ultrloa]

We can never hide the thing Manipulation. I can say that this the nature of the crypto investment, rich people can make such a thing in order to get a favor on the market. What going to happen with us as normal investors? We are simply riding with them and the market as well. We also buy at low and sell at high accordingly. Thought that they are only benefiting a lot, well, of course, we are also benefiting as well.

I think the time has come that we need to accept the reality inside the crypto market as possible that we can never stop this thing until forever.

Rich people have advantage on this since they can manipulate the minds of the people who follows them, we can see Elon as example where he always want the marker moves depends on his like and his influence really drag up since many people got afraid on the effects on what he is doing.

[Oceat]

We can never hide the thing Manipulation. I can say that this the nature of the crypto investment, rich people can make such a thing in order to get a favor on the market. What going to happen with us as normal investors? We are simply riding with them and the market as well. We also buy at low and sell at high accordingly. Thought that they are only benefiting a lot, well, of course, we are also benefiting as well.

I think the time has come that we need to accept the reality inside the crypto market as possible that we can never stop this thing until forever.

Market manipulation will remain untouched forever because if they do so there would be a counter flow of the money making and I think everyone benefited the market manipulation somehow if they know how to ride with them as well. Only those greedy one's will fail because they think too much outside of the box.

If you see an opportunity to make profit do it already and stop hesitating and making a what if conclusion because market manipulation happens everytime. Buy low and sell high or HODL! That's your only role when in crypto world.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

Any expert can explain the reason behind those huge pump and dumped of BTC?

You don't need an expert to understand what's happening here, the market gets pumped as a result of many factors, one of which is the halving event that occurs every four years and a year before the market records all time high.

This happens because prior to the halving, there has already been demand of Bitcoin in the market which is called the accumulation stages where Bitcoin is been bought strategically.

The dumped comes after profit has been secured, Thai the natural routine if the market but where the price difference is very high is due to the manipulation of the market by the whale. First they create the fomo which makes the market overbought and when the corrections does occur the market gets over dumped.

[leea-1334]

He did not just drop out because of environmental problems.
1. He did not sell (not all) of the Bitcoin that Tesla owned. Even if he wanted to am sure he does not have the final say.
2. He only said Tesla stopped accepting BTC. But when they did, who bought Teslas with BTC anyway?

That so happens that whales manipulate the market and one of them is Elon Musk. But for now, I tried to forget his name and to accept that the crypto market has already in a curse of manipulation. Many of these whales just keep themselves anonymously, we don't know that some of them are government officials or known personalities.
Even though we don't like the idea of being manipulated but we know also that these people make the market alive and help the market to grow. In fact, we can't also deny that small investors are benefiting the market when there is hype happens. We are also in profit just like them.

Honestly I do not think individuals have the time to sit around and play this game so a lot of the socalled "manipulation" that people say happens is really just the market being normal. I mean, as I said,,, this is crypto. Realism from stocks and forex do not apply here. We have to expect the unrealistic to happen, but of course, people only take it for the positive side:)

[Questat]

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Market manipulation will remain untouched forever because if they do so there would be a counter flow of the money making and I think everyone benefited the market manipulation somehow if they know how to ride with them as well. Only those greedy one's will fail because they think too much outside of the box.

If you see an opportunity to make profit do it already and stop hesitating and making a what if conclusion because market manipulation happens everytime. Buy low and sell high or HODL! That's your only role when in crypto world.

Buy low and sell High, HOLD is seemed to be optional for me. I wasn't a long-term holder, unlike the others.

Anyways, since we are already here in crypto, we have to ride those whales who manipulate the market, and we have to consider this as an opportunity but we need to wise and mindful of what we doing coz we can never hesitate for any possible losses to come. There is no point to go against these whales coz it was impossible to stop them.

[SquallLeonhart]

From all this pump and dumped I did not yet UNDERSTAND that why and how this happens and the difference is huge.

Bitcoin was dumped recently but not up to the level of beginning point of pumping; it means before the current bull run bitcoin was trading around $10k levels and along with the current dumping bitcoin never dropped below $25k levels it means if you have bought by the beginning of pumping then you never need to worry about. Moreover what I am trying to say is, this is not complete pumping and dumping scenario but pumping happened and then some corrections also have happened and nothing more.

For some outside people, bitcoin market might be looking like a complete manipulation of whales but in my opinion after many years of observations, bitcoin market is just reacting to news and events of its ecosystem and there cannot be any simple or one logic behind all market movements.

[isaac_clarke22]

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It is the reaction of those who are following celebrities, while those celebrities you're mentioning don't even have a single knowledge about crypto.
Let the price of BTC dip and take the opportunity to buy more instead.

[shield132]

Greeting BT Users,

As I am involved in the crypto world for the past 3-5 years and closely watching BTC when its price was around $400 - $700. When the BTC first pumped in 2017/2018 than it creates chaos in the whole world and more and more users are attracted because of the profit they see, but when the price suddenly down and BTC dumped to $5000 from $20k then a lot of new as well as experience users lost their money and also trust from Cryptocurrency.

Recently BTC again pumped and the price reached $60k and was predicted to touch the target of $100k but again the BTC price dumped around $35k - $38k. From all this pump and dumped I did not yet UNDERSTAND that why and how this happens and the difference is huge. BTC is considered the king of the crypto world and it causes the price Pump and Dumped of all the coins. Also Crypto market is untrustable as any person having a status/huge bank balance can easily manipulate the market as Elon Musk did.

Any expert can explain the reason behind those huge pump and dumped of BTC?

No one is an expert here but the pump/dump happens because people make money. In futures trading, you can earn via both way by opening "Long" or "Short".
Chaos happens because 95% of people have no idea why they invest in any cryptocurrency. They don't support the project but the hope that today they sleep and when they wake up in the morning, there will be some $$$ earnings on their balance. When they see a decline in price, they sell in order to avoid further loss but they don't think about the possible long-term profit from the investment.

To sum up, whales manipulate the price and make an enormous profit. They manipulate it to a point where people either start massive sell or massive buy. Then they turn the situation and profit while the highest percentage of people lose. In the ocean, fish don't eat whales, whales eat fish. Those, who follow the whale behind, may escape but those who are in front of it, have no chance.

[dothebeats]

Whales stimulate the price in order to lure other people to buy in. That’s when most of the buys come in and the price is overly inflated. Then comes the die-hards reinforcing that the price is still poised to reach X amount in order to keep others on buying more coins. A few more days or weeks from that, the whales would have already sold and dumped their coins on the market, and the cycle begins anew. At least that’s what I have observed for what’s happening within the last 7 yrs.

[fullhdpixel]

Any expert can explain the reason behind those huge pump and dumped of BTC?

Not an expert by any means but I will put my views on the topic because I feel like I know something about the pump and dump that is going on for years.

First of all, the BTC market is volatile because trading happens without any data, I mean in the standard stocks market it is easy to estimate how much a particular share or asset was sold and bought but it's near impossible to calculate that in the crypto market hence the volatility.

Now, coming back to the point who causes these pumps and dumps? It's most of the time the whales like you said Elon can do it, that's true. Why they do it? Obviously to eat the capital of a nervous small trader and those who are trading with leverage or futures.

One thing you didn't ask but I feel I should answer is, how we can avoid being affected by these? By avoiding futures trading and ensuring not to panic when the market goes down. Just read about the GameStop share and how people killed those who do short selling because they just hold their shares and at a certain point, whales who did short-selling lost gigantic amount of money.

[justdimin]

We can never hide the thing Manipulation. I can say that this the nature of the crypto investment, rich people can make such a thing in order to get a favor on the market. What going to happen with us as normal investors? We are simply riding with them and the market as well. We also buy at low and sell at high accordingly. Thought that they are only benefiting a lot, well, of course, we are also benefiting as well.

I think the time has come that we need to accept the reality inside the crypto market as possible that we can never stop this thing until forever.

If you invest in the value of the coin instead of the price of the coin, you can almost always avoid this thing. The real problem in crypto trading market is that most of the traders here are amateurs and they don't know how to react when the market doesn't move in the desired direction. They will either come to social media shouting and claiming that it's a scam or they will just accept loss and rage quit.

I see on Twitter how guys will crown Elon Musk the king when he does something that benefits traders and the same people will abuse him if he makes a single tweet that doesn't dwell well for the traders.

People have to take trading more seriously and understand that we as traders should not just trade anything and if someone makes a tweet about something, we should not go berserk about it. Another thing to remember is that market will move in both directions because the only thing that goes higher cannot be classified as a market. You have to be ready for the swings, in crypto, the swings are just higher than the usual stock market.

[Silberman]

Greeting BT Users,

As I am involved in the crypto world for the past 3-5 years and closely watching BTC when its price was around $400 - $700. When the BTC first pumped in 2017/2018 than it creates chaos in the whole world and more and more users are attracted because of the profit they see, but when the price suddenly down and BTC dumped to $5000 from $20k then a lot of new as well as experience users lost their money and also trust from Cryptocurrency.

Recently BTC again pumped and the price reached $60k and was predicted to touch the target of $100k but again the BTC price dumped around $35k - $38k. From all this pump and dumped I did not yet UNDERSTAND that why and how this happens and the difference is huge. BTC is considered the king of the crypto world and it causes the price Pump and Dumped of all the coins. Also Crypto market is untrustable as any person having a status/huge bank balance can easily manipulate the market as Elon Musk did.

Any expert can explain the reason behind those huge pump and dumped of BTC?

Almost everything can be explained by the supply and demand, the supply of bitcoin even if it is not fixed is very inelastic, this means that a great deal of the coins that have been mined are not really in the market as they are in the hand of holders, and since you cannot mine a lot more of it due to the fact that the rate at which new coins are created is predictable then this makes the market very volatile, then when you add that people use leverage this adds artificial demand which disappears as soon as people begin to panic creating the dumps that we see.

[taufik123]

Whales and institutional investors is the main factor that make the price in high fluctuacion. Without them, the market with sideaway in long time without any high fluctuacion. Usually before pump the market, whales will doing first accumulation that difficult to detect it. After they did accumulation, and then ready to pump. They did it to make profit and to shake the market to trigger others investor come in to market.

Whales are indeed one of the reasons why the cryptocurrency market is being manipulated. They want to make a profit by controlling the market and making people panic about the state of the market that has been controlled by the whales. Pump and dump will happen according to their plan. Many FUDs are spread to make the market price crash and buy them cheap and then make good news to take profits. Very simple, but market manipulation like the whales must be detected so as not to get caught up in the game.