Cryptocurrency Market Manipulation Logic?

[stomachgrowls]

Greeting BT Users,

As I am involved in the crypto world for the past 3-5 years and closely watching BTC when its price was around $400 - $700. When the BTC first pumped in 2017/2018 than it creates chaos in the whole world and more and more users are attracted because of the profit they see, but when the price suddenly down and BTC dumped to $5000 from $20k then a lot of new as well as experience users lost their money and also trust from Cryptocurrency.

Recently BTC again pumped and the price reached $60k and was predicted to touch the target of $100k but again the BTC price dumped around $35k - $38k. From all this pump and dumped I did not yet UNDERSTAND that why and how this happens and the difference is huge. BTC is considered the king of the crypto world and it causes the price Pump and Dumped of all the coins. Also Crypto market is untrustable as any person having a status/huge bank balance can easily manipulate the market as Elon Musk did.

Any expert can explain the reason behind those huge pump and dumped of BTC?

Its not easy as you think since the total marketcap of bitcoin even crossed 1 Trillion if I am not wrong so to manipulate the price of bitcoin the user who wants to manipulate should sell or buy few thousands of Bitcoin to create the price change.

The price manipulation is not only exist in cryptocurrencies, even in stocks the company itself boost their stock values with fake expenses and profit making records to create hype and sell them for profits.

Manipulation would really be there neither you do engage with cryptocurrency market or with stocks or forex markets which turns out to be a casual thing to happen since there would be people/institutions who would be always on the top of the game or always ahead due to financial capacity.

It might not be proven out specially on a decentralized market but its quite evident and bit obvious anytime there would be some pump and dump in price and we cant determine on whats the actual
reason on the said price movement.

The only thing we can do is to speculate and presume out things in the end but basing on the extent of possible price manipulation then it is something not an easy thing
since Bitcoin market is already getting huge.

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[Silberman]

Market manipulation is repeated with emotion, psychology and the crowd repeat what they do many times. 90% of people in the crowd don't change and they are target of influencers and manipulators.

This reminds me of an old man named Pareto who accidentally discovered a miraculous phenomenon: 80% of social wealth is owned by 20% of people, while the remaining 80% only owns 20% of wealth. This is the famous "Pareto Law", also known as the " the 80-20 rule".
In the crypto world, only a few people are the ultimate winners.

The surprising thing about the Pareto rule is that it applies to everything, not only is present in the distribution of wealth, scientists discovered that it is also present in the universe and it seems to be almost like a natural law, which is why people need to be realistic when they trade, the chances they will win are small and if they do not make any effort like studying the markets for a few months then their chances to earn money while they trade is zero, which means they will be subject to the manipulators that can move this market as they want.

[ven7net]

I don't consider myself a cryptocurrency expert, but I also noticed that there is some manipulation of cryptocurrency prices going on. In my opinion, this can happen for several reasons, for example, in order to raise the price of BTC even higher. We know that the price of cryptocurrencies cannot constantly grow, and in order to promote growth, you need to periodically lower the price, for example, for BTC, and thereby, as it were, showing that the price is lower than it was before, but this will soon change and the price will go even higher. This scheme is already working and successful, and I believe that it was thanks to it that BTC was able to reach the price of $ 60,000 and this is not the limit.

[perfect999]

I don't consider myself a cryptocurrency expert, but I also noticed that there is some manipulation of cryptocurrency prices going on. In my opinion, this can happen for several reasons, for example, in order to raise the price of BTC even higher. We know that the price of cryptocurrencies cannot constantly grow, and in order to promote growth, you need to periodically lower the price, for example, for BTC, and thereby, as it were, showing that the price is lower than it was before, but this will soon change and the price will go even higher. This scheme is already working and successful, and I believe that it was thanks to it that BTC was able to reach the price of $ 60,000 and this is not the limit.

Unfortunately that is true in everything at life. I have seen even the food become that way, I have seen cities become that way, I have seen products be that way, it is seriously like that for most things in life. For example once upon a time in history I owned a shop, it wasn't really a big thing, but 20% of the products I sold were the 80% of my income and kept getting sold, and then 80% of the other products were the 20% of the income, it was a few 3-5% different but close to that. Life has so many 80-20 rule that you wouldn't believe it.

At the end of the day just focus on what you can do with this information and in your regular life you will pick up these things and realize them early on and end up making profit that way. I personally try to see that in everything, in trading as well and in investing mainly and it helped me a lot, that is why 80% of my money is in 20% of my portfolio whereas 20% of my money is in 20% of my portfolio.

[Hippocrypto]

Greeting BT Users,

As I am involved in the crypto world for the past 3-5 years and closely watching BTC when its price was around $400 - $700. When the BTC first pumped in 2017/2018 than it creates chaos in the whole world and more and more users are attracted because of the profit they see, but when the price suddenly down and BTC dumped to $5000 from $20k then a lot of new as well as experience users lost their money and also trust from Cryptocurrency.

Recently BTC again pumped and the price reached $60k and was predicted to touch the target of $100k but again the BTC price dumped around $35k - $38k. From all this pump and dumped I did not yet UNDERSTAND that why and how this happens and the difference is huge. BTC is considered the king of the crypto world and it causes the price Pump and Dumped of all the coins. Also Crypto market is untrustable as any person having a status/huge bank balance can easily manipulate the market as Elon Musk did.

Any expert can explain the reason behind those huge pump and dumped of BTC?

Just look at the chart, same pattern applies on the previous history of pump and dump of btc price. It's really surprising to see, and I believed we're about to see more opportunities coming. That's sounds unpredictable, but we need to be determined in order to become successful within the long periods of time.

[fullhdpixel]

Market manipulation is repeated with emotion, psychology and the crowd repeat what they do many times. 90% of people in the crowd don't change and they are target of influencers and manipulators.

This reminds me of an old man named Pareto who accidentally discovered a miraculous phenomenon: 80% of social wealth is owned by 20% of people, while the remaining 80% only owns 20% of wealth. This is the famous "Pareto Law", also known as the " the 80-20 rule".
In the crypto world, only a few people are the ultimate winners.

And the sad reality is that the 20% available to the 80% of people is being slowly taken away by the 20% who own 80% of the wealth.

Let's understand things a bit to see what's happening.

Whales have a massive amount of money and they want to juice out some more from the smaller fishes. The only way to do this is by creating a tension in the ocean that water is soon going to be dried and people will move out of the ocean may survive and a lot of small fish will move out. This is what actually happens in the crypto market as well. Once small traders (fish) feel the market is crashing, they will sell their coins at loss and exit the market making the whale traders even richer and stronger than before.

The small traders who hold strong become bigger and the game continues until either the whale is broken into pieces just like what happened with the GameStop saga or the small traders bleed out to death.

[Kittygalore]

The reason for the pump and dump in the market by market manipulators is that there's no way to enforce a regulation since it's a decentralized market after all meaning that everyone can do what they are doing if they have the money without any consequences. A little price to pay for decentralized market.

[Kimonoe]

The reason for the pump and dump in the market by market manipulators is that there's no way to enforce a regulation since it's a decentralized market after all meaning that everyone can do what they are doing if they have the money without any consequences. A little price to pay for decentralized market.

right, everyone can do it, as long as they have big capital and a loyal community. Moreover, if he is a person who has a strong influence, so that many followers will follow his words, from here he can facilitate his actions to encourage the realization of these goals. Their main goal I believe is to earn big profits, and they don't seem to care about the development of cryptocurrencies

[dezoel]

The main reason bitcoin gets a pump and dump is that wealthy people love to get into things and take control of it, so they do not like it when they get into something and we all have power to change the price, if we want it to go up but they do not want it? They will end up dropping the price no matter how much it costs them, which is why I think they manipulate the market not just because they can, but because they really want to, it is a power thing for them.

Think about it you are a billionaire, you have a lot of money and then some very poor people end up together and destroy your money? That is just not going to be accepted by them. Look at what WSB subreddit did to companies like Citadel, they just destroyed it yet Citadel just keeps going, even while mathematically known that they will lose, they still end up doing it over and over again.

[suzanne5223]

The main reason bitcoin gets a pump and dump is that wealthy people love to get into things and take control of it, so they do not like it when they get into something and we all have power to change the price, if we want it to go up but they do not want it? They will end up dropping the price no matter how much it costs them, which is why I think they manipulate the market not just because they can, but because they really want to, it is a power thing for them.

First, people thinking BTC will reach $100K as the OP said is a dream that wont come true and I have said before though it can happen in the next halving.

Yes, it a power thing for the wealthy people to make profit for themselves but if the wealthy did not join the crypto investment, common people will also manipulate the market so it not proper for us to blame the whales or institutional investors for manipulating the market and what we ought to do is make use of their decision to profit ourselves because the problem of manipulation happen through the market been a subject of speculation.

[sana54210]

First, people thinking BTC will reach $100K as the OP said is a dream that wont come true and I have said before though it can happen in the next halving.

Yes, it a power thing for the wealthy people to make profit for themselves but if the wealthy did not join the crypto investment, common people will also manipulate the market so it not proper for us to blame the whales or institutional investors for manipulating the market and what we ought to do is make use of their decision to profit ourselves because the problem of manipulation happen through the market been a subject of speculation.

Waaaaay before whales came in to play, waaaay before all these Elon Musk and all that, didn't we have manipulation? We still had a lot of it, we have seen crypto rich people to manipulate the markets like crazy. Hell just before the BCH thing price moved from 700 to 3k+ and after that it became 20k, and right during BCH vs BSV fight the price reached to 3.5k, so they were capable of making it go up, and make it go down at the same time, they had that power, these are crypto whales and they were controlling the market. What happened? We ended up buying more and more and we allowed them to manipulate us.

Now, there are fiat whales who are getting interested and they are manipulating, let them manipulate, the market is great and we are making a great profit whenever it goes up, whatever happens between bulls are what sellers should care about, I only accumulate so I don't mind.

[suzanne5223]

First, people thinking BTC will reach $100K as the OP said is a dream that wont come true and I have said before though it can happen in the next halving.

Yes, it a power thing for the wealthy people to make profit for themselves but if the wealthy did not join the crypto investment, common people will also manipulate the market so it not proper for us to blame the whales or institutional investors for manipulating the market and what we ought to do is make use of their decision to profit ourselves because the problem of manipulation happen through the market been a subject of speculation.

Waaaaay before whales came in to play, waaaay before all these Elon Musk and all that, didn't we have manipulation? We still had a lot of it, we have seen crypto rich people to manipulate the markets like crazy. Hell just before the BCH thing price moved from 700 to 3k+ and after that it became 20k, and right during BCH vs BSV fight the price reached to 3.5k, so they were capable of making it go up, and make it go down at the same time, they had that power, these are crypto whales and they were controlling the market. What happened? We ended up buying more and more and we allowed them to manipulate us.

Now, there are fiat whales who are getting interested and they are manipulating, let them manipulate, the market is great and we are making a great profit whenever it goes up, whatever happens between bulls are what sellers should care about, I only accumulate so I don't mind.

Whales manipulation is something we can do nothing about it but use it as a weapon for our own gain.

If you understand my point very well, you will see that I have once said the problem was the market been a content of speculation and right before the existence of Elon etc in the crypto market we have already had some whales that market price manipulate although whales may not be rank as whales now.

[tvplus006]

...Any expert can explain the reason behind those huge pump and dumped of BTC?

Institutional investors receive such a profit on the cryptocurrency market that it is impossible to get on the stock exchange, due to the fact that it is regulated. Here they can dump and pump any coin with impunity, which allows them to buy at a low price and sell at a high price.

[Wawa2013]

First, people thinking BTC will reach $100K as the OP said is a dream that wont come true and I have said before though it can happen in the next halving.

Yes, it a power thing for the wealthy people to make profit for themselves but if the wealthy did not join the crypto investment, common people will also manipulate the market so it not proper for us to blame the whales or institutional investors for manipulating the market and what we ought to do is make use of their decision to profit ourselves because the problem of manipulation happen through the market been a subject of speculation.

Waaaaay before whales came in to play, waaaay before all these Elon Musk and all that, didn't we have manipulation? We still had a lot of it, we have seen crypto rich people to manipulate the markets like crazy. Hell just before the BCH thing price moved from 700 to 3k+ and after that it became 20k, and right during BCH vs BSV fight the price reached to 3.5k, so they were capable of making it go up, and make it go down at the same time, they had that power, these are crypto whales and they were controlling the market. What happened? We ended up buying more and more and we allowed them to manipulate us.

Now, there are fiat whales who are getting interested and they are manipulating, let them manipulate, the market is great and we are making a great profit whenever it goes up, whatever happens between bulls are what sellers should care about, I only accumulate so I don't mind.

Whales manipulation is something we can do nothing about it but use it as a weapon for our own gain.

If you understand my point very well, you will see that I have once said the problem was the market been a content of speculation and right before the existence of Elon etc in the crypto market we have already had some whales that market price manipulate although whales may not be rank as whales now.

It is very difficult for us to stop whales, because whales have a lot of money, so it is very easy for whales to manipulate the market. Therefore
we often see coins that do not have a clear function suddenly pump, or some new projects that suddenly rise very high once they are listed
on exchanges. Whales do like to play with small investors, in order to make a profit. Therefore, we should not panic easily when the price drops
suddenly, maybe if there is no FUD it's whales who do it. Likewise with coins that suddenly rise even though there is no good news, the whales
did it too. We must be careful when investing, always do research and analysis before deciding to enter the market.

[emmybd]

Price manipulation occurs in both small and major currencies, with some instances involving a single market participant.
In all cases of “dump and pump” events involving Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies, spot volumes rise above the average seen on exchanges. The price of cryptocurrency drops or rises rapidly as a result of the occurrences.
After investing in cryptocurrencies, investors may see huge trades on exchanges with "thin books," or exchanges with little liquidity, where a large amount of cryptocurrency is completed.
This is a sign that market manipulation is taking place in order for investors to profit quickly. By selling large amounts of assets on the spot market, manipulators take advantage of the thin order book.

[Benefactor]

This is only a cycle on crypto so need to stress. You can utilize tradingview to quantify the volume of siphon versus the landfill since the bull run start, You will see there that the sum practically close which support my theory. My point is that you can't have a clue about the expectations of individuals who are selling or purchasing anytime, consequently you can't clarify dumps or siphons.

[suzanne5223]

First, people thinking BTC will reach $100K as the OP said is a dream that wont come true and I have said before though it can happen in the next halving.

Yes, it a power thing for the wealthy people to make profit for themselves but if the wealthy did not join the crypto investment, common people will also manipulate the market so it not proper for us to blame the whales or institutional investors for manipulating the market and what we ought to do is make use of their decision to profit ourselves because the problem of manipulation happen through the market been a subject of speculation.

Waaaaay before whales came in to play, waaaay before all these Elon Musk and all that, didn't we have manipulation? We still had a lot of it, we have seen crypto rich people to manipulate the markets like crazy. Hell just before the BCH thing price moved from 700 to 3k+ and after that it became 20k, and right during BCH vs BSV fight the price reached to 3.5k, so they were capable of making it go up, and make it go down at the same time, they had that power, these are crypto whales and they were controlling the market. What happened? We ended up buying more and more and we allowed them to manipulate us.

Now, there are fiat whales who are getting interested and they are manipulating, let them manipulate, the market is great and we are making a great profit whenever it goes up, whatever happens between bulls are what sellers should care about, I only accumulate so I don't mind.

Whales manipulation is something we can do nothing about it but use it as a weapon for our own gain.

If you understand my point very well, you will see that I have once said the problem was the market been a content of speculation and right before the existence of Elon etc in the crypto market we have already had some whales that market price manipulate although whales may not be rank as whales now.

It is very difficult for us to stop whales,

It is not possible to stop the whales and either will like it or not the whales are needed in the market.

Therefore
we often see coins that do not have a clear function suddenly pump, or some new projects that suddenly rise very high once they are listed
on exchanges.

It not very coin that experience suddenly pump after exchange listing happen through market manipulation or done by the whales.

Whales do like to play with small investors, in order to make a profit.

We can't say they play with small investors by cashing out their profits but most small investors are too lazy because about 96% of them are inexperienced.

[Wawa2013]

It is very difficult for us to stop whales,

It is not possible to stop the whales and either will like it or not the whales are needed in the market.

Therefore
we often see coins that do not have a clear function suddenly pump, or some new projects that suddenly rise very high once they are listed
on exchanges.

It not very coin that experience suddenly pump after exchange listing happen through market manipulation or done by the whales.

Whales do like to play with small investors, in order to make a profit.

We can't say they play with small investors by cashing out their profits but most small investors are too lazy because about 96% of them are inexperienced.

This is why it is important to learn a lot when deciding to invest in cryptocurrencies, because a lot of manipulation occurs in the crypto world.
And that's why cryptocurrency prices are so volatile, no wonder even professional traders never stop learning, although he proved successful
in generating large profits. Because the changing trend in crypto is quite fast and we have to be able to deal with it. I agree that most small
investors are lazy to learn and inexperienced, they only expect signals from other people. Therefore, many small investors ended up
experiencing losses.

[suzanne5223]

It is very difficult for us to stop whales,

It is not possible to stop the whales and either will like it or not the whales are needed in the market.

Therefore
we often see coins that do not have a clear function suddenly pump, or some new projects that suddenly rise very high once they are listed
on exchanges.

It not very coin that experience suddenly pump after exchange listing happen through market manipulation or done by the whales.

Whales do like to play with small investors, in order to make a profit.

We can't say they play with small investors by cashing out their profits but most small investors are too lazy because about 96% of them are inexperienced.

This is why it is important to learn a lot when deciding to invest in cryptocurrencies, because a lot of manipulation occurs in the crypto world.
And that's why cryptocurrency prices are so volatile, no wonder even professional traders never stop learning, although he proved successful
in generating large profits. Because the changing trend in crypto is quite fast and we have to be able to deal with it. I agree that most small
investors are lazy to learn and inexperienced, they only expect signals from other people. Therefore, many small investors ended up
experiencing losses.

Cryptocurrency being a subject of speculation and its trend is determined by the level of demand and supply are the reason why volatile, so I won't blame anyone for manipulating the market. This is the reason why every trend showcase by the market provides a new experience to professional traders.
Which why naive and newbies are advised to seek knowledge first because crypto is not for lazy people.

[cryptolord2077]

Logic is always in the money. The crypto market is very young and extremely volatile, it is obvious that here, having large funds, you can find a whole field for manipulation.
Look how the exchanges play dirty, knock out stops in one direction or another, liquidate a huge number of positions. What for? Money.