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June 25, 2021, 10:00:02 PM
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Cause quick profit is an easy temptation, plus, if they never really planned to actually run it properly, why would they not break it? As for casinos protecting themselves, it's rather easy tbh. Explain everything that happened. The forum isn't full of idiots, they would analyze and see who was really at fault and whether the one at fault was willing to admit it and to change. There are already various examples here tbh, one being a case where the user used an exploit to win money and used that money to win a big amount. The former was an exploit, while the latter was due to luck. There was an entire thread explaining a bunch of stuff and reasoning for that one (can't really remember the casino involved), but it was rather easy to see how reputable casinos actually take the time to explain stuff.
Temptation will always be there but if that gambling site compose of professionals and really love that work, for sure they'll continue to operate because there's a big money in gambling site and if they offer good services I'm pretty sure they'll earn more and no need for them to scam the players. Building a reputable gambling site takes a lot of effort, time and money I also don't understand for a need to scam where in fact they already spend the money which I believe they are capable enough to have. Scammer will always be a scammer to me, in gambling you have to choose very well.
They wont really be risking out their reputation that they had built up for years on just trying to scam out their users for one time go on stealing funds which I don't see for it to be worth on doing that or simply pointless.

Successful business would bring out fortune for more years to come as long they do know how to retain or maintain a good business in the market.

Those kind of destroying others business via those fake reviews and accusation is something that wont really be that effective.People aren't blind on
not to see on whats the truth.

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June 25, 2021, 10:10:57 PM
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I think it's more complex than we thought...

My advice is to be careful using gambling sites that have just emerged where it is not clear how much their investment capital is. Usually they will look good at the beginning but when many have played then problems will arise and they run away.

the gambling business has tough competition, so reputation is important, every gambling site must have responsive customer service, don't because it doesn't serve 1 player who has a problem, the reputation of the site is in question.



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June 25, 2021, 10:18:47 PM
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For a business to build a reputation, it takes a lot of money and time to be invested to achieve this through marketing, brand awareness and all other activities.

But my question is why would they risk all they have invested to a few players by scamming them? I for one know the forum will side with the player that have been allegedly being scammed in most cases but how do casino's/bookies  protect themselves if not terms and conditions?

If people buy reviews to paint a picture of a good standing business,  what would stop the competition from buying people to tarnish a competitors reputation to have an advantage in the business?

They would probably gain more money by doing so, and they can surely control the output of the game that is what bookies would want to do if they would control the flow and outcome of the game, this is just because for them to gain a small fraction of money out of that 1 illegal thing they did,

In just a small fraction of a second, they will tarnish the reputation that they have built for so long, I guess companies that doing that never think about the consequence before doing it would rather enjoy the small things in a now benefit than with their future Benefit.
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June 25, 2021, 10:26:45 PM
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But my question is why would they risk all they have invested to a few players by scamming them?
because they cant continue anymore ? it could be lacking of funds or they have gained a bad reputations before but they havent fix it and it adds up .
They probably got a wrong move and can't take it anymore due to the community judging them.

As they know when it's the community that is against you, it's either you keep fighting for your business and establish it again or just stop it because you can no longer take the criticism aside from having lack of funds.
It's hard to know exactly why casinos act like this sometimes. It may be that they are running out of funds, a selective scam to boost their earnings a little bit, a strong assumption that a player really cheated without having how to prove it with accuracy... There are different answers for this question and the casino might be right in some of these situations, because it's well known there are many players who try to cheat the house constantly and once they are caught they accuse the casino of scamming.

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June 25, 2021, 11:02:45 PM
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Nothing, many companies actually engage in such sorts of activities.

But that's not always the case and reason for few bad reviews on a company with an overall good reputation. Sometimes there are customers that will be unhappy no matter what, and, the ugly truth is, the bigger and more successful company is - the more of such customers will be there.

I've read quite a few ridiculous reviews in which people complained about the casinos allegedly being scammers simply because people lost their money, or blamed the casino because the withdrawal took longer than 15 minutes, all the while the reason was low fees and overloaded network, etc.

Gambling is a very difficult business to maintain a good name because it involves money. When people lose money they go crazy and write all sorts of things always trying to blame someone else.

Also, there always will be dumb people that didn't read ToS and are unhappy with the outcomes (e.g. blocked account, but had they read the rules - this wouldn't have happened).
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June 25, 2021, 11:34:46 PM
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If people buy reviews to paint a picture of a good standing business,  what would stop the competition from buying people to tarnish a competitors reputation to have an advantage in the business?

Buying reviews is just a marketing strategy! It's all about to be seen... to have exposure! And I am fine with that, it's on us to find a reliable source of info... to not believe in anything at first sight, we need to know how to check things!

About that other thing "what would stop the competition from buying people to tarnish a competitor's reputation"... we have many examples of that here on the forum! Check the official thread of any casino here and you will find some newbies trying to do exactly that! And in most cases without any proofs! But they can't (or anyone else) ruin a good reputation without valid evidence, proofs... they just bother us!
The advantage of coming here is you will know who's saying the truth in terms of legitimate reviews compared to a bought reviews. I've seen a lot of them doing that as if they really like the platform, the payments, and everything else like how good they say something to the site without bothering to point out what are their experiences because they never had any experience on the site.

If you want to believe a legit reviews look for the one who criticize and ask a question about their experiences and never believe to something that gives a perfect star rating or something plus a no flaws comments, that is questionable in the first place.

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June 25, 2021, 11:53:51 PM
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Wouldnt matter if a certain company would be barraged out by some negative or false claims or accusations because it would be just easily outweighed on the things that they had done specially in talks of good service that they do give into the public.

I agree on what other members said above that the community isnt blind into the things that had been done on an honest company.

Their actions would be the proof that they are really doing something good into this market.They might have some issues but it would be
bareable one and can be easily handled.
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June 26, 2021, 02:01:12 AM
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I'm pretty sure before they start up a business,they must have planned how long the business is going to stay,they must have set up ways to prove to the public that the business is genuine.They must give some people benefit of doubt that the business is real,so as to attract more patronizers,and when people have trusted then enough not to disappoint,they'll suddenly disappoint and loose their reputation because of the gain they've made.



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June 26, 2021, 04:33:03 AM
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For a business to build a reputation, it takes a lot of money and time to be invested to achieve this through marketing, brand awareness and all other activities.
The phenomenon of online gambling is now increasingly mushrooming, no half-hearted from the creation of 1,2,3 to 5 gambling sites at once with very sophisticated modes that are different from before.

If they get caught the main site is cheating they will use gambling site 2 and so on, to look for victims, with millions of assets, by renting a server they can operate in several countries and they include the necessary language content, so that it can be accessed by gambling players in certain countries.

They don't care about Reputation, their mission is to cheat and they have agents/conspirators in every country, if their site gets blocked they will make the website content the same of course the site name is different, but the content is the same as the base.

For that there is no reputation for those who are destroyed in seconds, only victims and money they are looking for.

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June 26, 2021, 04:45:18 AM
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They wont really be risking out their reputation that they had built up for years on just trying to scam out their users for one time go on stealing funds which I don't see for it to be worth on doing that or simply pointless.

Successful business would bring out fortune for more years to come as long they do know how to retain or maintain a good business in the market.

Those kind of destroying others business via those fake reviews and accusation is something that wont really be that effective.People aren't blind on
not to see on whats the truth.

Setting up a good reputation for a business really takes time, takes a lot of effort and may also cost them huge amount to be able to build a good name with a good business standing and reputation and once they get it they would make sure to do anything to protect it in all cost. They would never going to risks their reputation or the business name that they have built for years just to scam players or just to ruin what they have built for years.
At some point the competition of the gambling business today is rising and the thought that they would going to ruin their competitors reputation is not impossible.
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June 26, 2021, 05:36:29 AM
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For a business to build a reputation, it takes a lot of money and time to be invested to achieve this through marketing, brand awareness and all other activities.

But my question is why would they risk all they have invested to a few players by scamming them? I for one know the forum will side with the player that have been allegedly being scammed in most cases but how do casino's/bookies  protect themselves if not terms and conditions?

If people buy reviews to paint a picture of a good standing business,  what would stop the competition from buying people to tarnish a competitors reputation to have an advantage in the business?

A reputable project will not likely scam players or members but they are upholding their terms of conditions and governing rules, if a player opens a scam accusations the burden is on the accusers he must show proof and evidence that he got scam and did not break the rules, the project admin or developers will then show the validity of their decision based on their rules, scammers will scam people and will continue to scam people without giving valid proof that can satisfy the players and the community.

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If the casino really wants to build reputations, they need to promote and invest some money to make their brand become bigger and popular among the other casino. The casino will not scam the player and will always help their member if they have a problem. Perhaps, there is something wrong happen and mostly the player will get the impact by losing their money, they can't withdraw the win money, or their tickets are not solved by the casino. That makes the player thinks that the casino is trying to scam them and complain here.

I think the problem needs to solve by both sides, the casino, and the player, and not discussed here as that is their personal problem. Perhaps, talk privately will be useful for both side to solve the problem and the casino and the player knows what is wrong with the problem.

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If a casino wants to protect itself from accusations of users they shouldn't be scamming or do something stupid to even their signature participants. By just being fair to everyone I think is enough to protect from ruining reputation because after all accusing a casino needs evidence here in the forum

When a page is indexed by google where the thread title includes the brand of your casino, it is likely to be considered real by internet users who are not from this forum. But they will realize when they know the culture in the crypto community.

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If people buy reviews to paint a picture of a good standing business,  what would stop the competition from buying people to tarnish a competitors reputation to have an advantage in the business?

Buying reviews is just a marketing strategy! It's all about to be seen... to have exposure! And I am fine with that, it's on us to find a reliable source of info... to not believe in anything at first sight, we need to know how to check things!

About that other thing "what would stop the competition from buying people to tarnish a competitor's reputation"... we have many examples of that here on the forum! Check the official thread of any casino here and you will find some newbies trying to do exactly that! And in most cases without any proofs! But they can't (or anyone else) ruin a good reputation without valid evidence, proofs... they just bother us!

Look at 1xbet for example, they paying huge amounts every week to promote their business and they are tried every trick in the book to clear their name. (everything except not making the scammed players whole)

An aggressive company like that will buy reviews for damn sure. These fuckers are almost everywhere now.

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June 26, 2021, 10:58:35 AM
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But my question is why would they risk all they have invested to a few players by scamming them?
because they cant continue anymore ? it could be lacking of funds or they have gained a bad reputations before but they havent fix it and it adds up .
They probably got a wrong move and can't take it anymore due to the community judging them.

As they know when it's the community that is against you, it's either you keep fighting for your business and establish it again or just stop it because you can no longer take the criticism aside from having lack of funds.

you need to keep fighting for your business if you know you dont commit a sever mistake such as scamming because in every gambling site there is a mistake but that can be corrected if your costumer pointed it out .
 our costumer can give a feedback and we can use it to improve our business  . they are not judging us but we only think they are .
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Reputation can be damaged not only because of a scam but there are also those who want to bring down the gambling site or whatever for reasons of unacceptable big losses, mistakes from the site or themselves and also competition and so on.
this is where we have to be smart to judge if there are suspicious indications on every site that we follow and investigate the truth so as not to misjudge and also anticipate if it is a scam.
There are numerous ways in which reputation can be also damaged which could be as a result of poor management, over reactive customers, having a difficult business interface not easy for customers to comprehend. A lot of reputation had been compromised just because there is no adequate communication channel between consumers of a product and the producers.
Having a good reputation as a company or organization requires good communication channel with comprehendible business interface.

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June 26, 2021, 11:29:35 AM
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For a business to build a reputation, it takes a lot of money and time to be invested to achieve this through marketing, brand awareness and all other activities.

But my question is why would they risk all they have invested to a few players by scamming them? I for one know the forum will side with the player that have been allegedly being scammed in most cases but how do casino's/bookies  protect themselves if not terms and conditions?

If people buy reviews to paint a picture of a good standing business,  what would stop the competition from buying people to tarnish a competitors reputation to have an advantage in the business?
If there is a smoke then there is a Fire , gambling site will never be convicted guilty if they are not, meaning those scam accusations are usually true .

how can they protect their reputation ? simple mate "Never Scam their Players" that is the only way how they cannot ruin the reputation they built.

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June 26, 2021, 12:56:22 PM
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They wont really be risking out their reputation that they had built up for years on just trying to scam out their users for one time go on stealing funds which I don't see for it to be worth on doing that or simply pointless.

Successful business would bring out fortune for more years to come as long they do know how to retain or maintain a good business in the market.

Those kind of destroying others business via those fake reviews and accusation is something that wont really be that effective.People aren't blind on
not to see on whats the truth.

Setting up a good reputation for a business really takes time, takes a lot of effort and may also cost them huge amount to be able to build a good name with a good business standing and reputation and once they get it they would make sure to do anything to protect it in all cost. They would never going to risks their reputation or the business name that they have built for years just to scam players or just to ruin what they have built for years.
At some point the competition of the gambling business today is rising and the thought that they would going to ruin their competitors reputation is not impossible.

Its actually a normal business on where tainting other business reputation somewhat become a normal thing for their competitors to do when they are trying to bring it down via those false or fake accusations and as an owner then you would really do all things for your business to flourish and would last up for years.It isnt simple and all business would really be undego on some challenges from those times where players arent really that high from that kind of accusation problems where every business would really pass on and as an owner you would really be doing your best for the best of your business.

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June 26, 2021, 12:58:18 PM
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For a business to build a reputation, it takes a lot of money and time to be invested to achieve this through marketing, brand awareness and all other activities.

But my question is why would they risk all they have invested to a few players by scamming them? I for one know the forum will side with the player that have been allegedly being scammed in most cases but how do casino's/bookies  protect themselves if not terms and conditions?

If people buy reviews to paint a picture of a good standing business,  what would stop the competition from buying people to tarnish a competitors reputation to have an advantage in the business?
Places know this, they are not unaware of this fact, they just make a decision based on knowing this. There is a person who is complaining about something valid but you think ignoring will be a better profit for you? Take it, just say you ignore (well don't say it but just don reply) and let the complaint being grown over and over, you will be fine if you think you will profit more. There is something that is very valid and you want to help? Help them to keep your reputation going.

I have seen places say "hacked" and steal everyone's money and leave, you think they didn't realize that would hurt them, that is literally the end of that casino and nobody will ever gamble there ever again and they are fine with that, they just stole all the money and they feel like it is a lot better. This is why at the end of the day we are talking about casinos being aware and still going with it.
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June 26, 2021, 01:11:56 PM
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A reputation does not involve financial fit or deal with finance, this is a something that happens to do with sincerity and ability to do things accordingly, setting up or building up a reputation is a situation or the process were by you had a transaction with your colleagues and the deal happen to be accomplished without issues, this is matter of trust and been truthful and it will not take up to a year to build reputation.

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