It takes years to build a reputation and seconds to break it

[AicecreaME]

Scamming is really normal in a big business, at first they will catch you attention and they will really do their best just to trust them and if they already know that there are already a lot of people that is trusting them and they already have the money that was invested for them then that would be the time for them to scam people, do not fall for it always do some research to avoid getting scam.

and they will even spend big amount of money just to get our trust , sometimes they will build the name for long time and then will break it just for short chances.

And also these happens upon desperation , when the gambling site is experiencing lowering income and they starts to feel the pressure of the business? then they will act inappropriately so they will still make money even if they lose their credibility .

I agree to this.

Most likely this will happen when a gambling site doesn't have any license, they could do anything illegal since for sure, the people they have used on their team are not even legit, so they have the guts to runaway whenever they feel to do so, like what you have said, when they are not earning good anymore.

But if a certain gambling site do have a licence and SEC registered, I guess their only option is just to shutdown their business if they are not making any good bankroll.

Cant denied that if your licensed or regulated, the users does have the chance if ever they would turn out to be a scam but since we are on crypto world then that wouldnt really give an assurance.
Come to think that there are even good gambling sites now that doesnt have license so that simply means that being legit doesnt really need nor necessarily to have license but having
one in a business is mostly like had some advantage when it comes to public positive impressions but not all the times though.
Reputation cant be build over night and it does require lots of years for you to build one.

Cryptocurrency gambling world or not, as long as they come clean with complete legal papers to their Government on whichever country they belong, that's enough assurance to give to their players, because obviously if they would run off or decided to scam their players, then they could proceed to legal cases about it like filling a case against them, easy as that, if the people they scammed really wanted to do so.

[Lanatsa]

Scamming is really normal in a big business, at first they will catch you attention and they will really do their best just to trust them and if they already know that there are already a lot of people that is trusting them and they already have the money that was invested for them then that would be the time for them to scam people, do not fall for it always do some research to avoid getting scam.

and they will even spend big amount of money just to get our trust , sometimes they will build the name for long time and then will break it just for short chances.

And also these happens upon desperation , when the gambling site is experiencing lowering income and they starts to feel the pressure of the business? then they will act inappropriately so they will still make money even if they lose their credibility .

I agree to this.

Most likely this will happen when a gambling site doesn't have any license, they could do anything illegal since for sure, the people they have used on their team are not even legit, so they have the guts to runaway whenever they feel to do so, like what you have said, when they are not earning good anymore.

But if a certain gambling site do have a licence and SEC registered, I guess their only option is just to shutdown their business if they are not making any good bankroll.

Cant denied that if your licensed or regulated, the users does have the chance if ever they would turn out to be a scam but since we are on crypto world then that wouldnt really give an assurance.
Come to think that there are even good gambling sites now that doesnt have license so that simply means that being legit doesnt really need nor necessarily to have license but having
one in a business is mostly like had some advantage when it comes to public positive impressions but not all the times though.
Reputation cant be build over night and it does require lots of years for you to build one.

Cryptocurrency gambling world or not, as long as they come clean with complete legal papers to their Government on whichever country they belong, that's enough assurance to give to their players, because obviously if they would run off or decided to scam their players, then they could proceed to legal cases about it like filling a case against them, easy as that, if the people they scammed really wanted to do so.

When it comes to legal actions then nothing beats out if a certain company is registered or licensed because it could really be easily to be traced up and since people who are involved is known then

chances for some refund would really be there compared to those who aren't known or unlicensed which it is lesser in chance to make up some retrieval of funds.

This is why people does have that impression that having license would be much better compared to none.

[STT]

The idea of regulation can be market based also, it doesn't just have to mean centralized authorities clearing through legal courts with lawyers and giant expenses to any case.  I'd suggest for crypto that its far more likely to be a market economy type of regulation where its unlikely to be beneficial in breaking a good reputation, that would be part of why this forum is useful in that it gives a voice to otherwise singular players but collectively the customers have some say as to the reputation of any operation.
  Its not gambling exactly but I remember both Mt.Gox and Cryptsy sites had warnings given on their failings before an actual collapse on those sites, that was a pretty useful heads-up.  It cant just be one person giving an opinion, it would have to be a consensus formed by many but I think thats possible and even happens with mainstream sites.

[ethereumhunter]

If the casino is not guilty and does not see a wrong thing from the accusations, the casino can rebuild their trust by always giving the best of them.

Actually no need for rebuilding trust as long as the casino can defend any scam accusations against them. It will also add some confidence if they will always win against any scam or negative accusations against them.

But sometimes, there are trolls that will just post baseless accusations and it's a waste of time for casinos to talk back against them. For such cases, a complete statement by the site staff is already enough to shut down those trolls. If these trolls will still continue to throw baseless accusations, I believed other people will know the difference between a valid argument and a troll one so no need to worry that the site's reputation will be at stake.

That is what I mean because sometimes trolls will always create many accusations to get down the reputations of the casino so the casino needs to make sure their customer that they did not make any mistake. A trusted casino with a reputation will always try to solve every problem their member has as fast as possible because they do not want to delay and make their members leave.

The casino needs to build a reputation and that is not because the casino is already bigger but the bigger the casino, the wind will blow stronger than before. So the casino needs to manage their reputations better than before.

[peter0425]

This is why if you have good amount of money to play with, just use it on the reputable sites known to this forum.
Because in case the site froze your account or you can't withdraw, some people here can help you with your problem.
Especially if you have done nothing wrong to flag down your account. Sites won't ruin their reputation from one unresolved issue.
That is, if you stick to reputable sites in the forum. But for new ones, try using small amount of money.

This forum has so many reputable gambling sites that we do not have to worry if they will scam us because they build their reputation over the years and serve their members best.

But you cannot blame some of us to have still second thoughts even if the site is already serving people here for years because there are other site that build their reputation at first with good motivation but eventually turning into being scammers .

Every problem that the members have will be solved by them, but we need to be patient because they have many members and need to investigate every issue carefully. But no matter what reputable gambling sites we played, we can not protect our money if we do not control ourselves. And if you still worry about playing gambling on those sites, you can use little money.

Actually mate using small money is not really a good strategy because scam site will never apprehend you with small amount of withdrawals but when you gain at least x5-10? then the question will start .

[rodskee]

Scamming is really normal in a big business, at first they will catch you attention and they will really do their best just to trust them and if they already know that there are already a lot of people that is trusting them and they already have the money that was invested for them then that would be the time for them to scam people, do not fall for it always do some research to avoid getting scam.

and they will even spend big amount of money just to get our trust , sometimes they will build the name for long time and then will break it just for short chances.

And also these happens upon desperation , when the gambling site is experiencing lowering income and they starts to feel the pressure of the business? then they will act inappropriately so they will still make money even if they lose their credibility .

I agree to this.

Most likely this will happen when a gambling site doesn't have any license, they could do anything illegal since for sure, the people they have used on their team are not even legit, so they have the guts to runaway whenever they feel to do so, like what you have said, when they are not earning good anymore.

Actually Mate sad to believe but i guess there is no classification in this matter because even Licensed Gambling site still facing some cases in the past as far as i remember .
and besides sometimes Licensed was just being used to Hide their true colors that their main objective is to scam people.

But if a certain gambling site do have a licence and SEC registered, I guess their only option is just to shutdown their business if they are not making any good bankroll.

Well hope this what all of them do, but licensed only comes from curacao in which some times being violated AFAIK .

[ethereumhunter]

This is why if you have good amount of money to play with, just use it on the reputable sites known to this forum.
Because in case the site froze your account or you can't withdraw, some people here can help you with your problem.
Especially if you have done nothing wrong to flag down your account. Sites won't ruin their reputation from one unresolved issue.
That is, if you stick to reputable sites in the forum. But for new ones, try using small amount of money.

This forum has so many reputable gambling sites that we do not have to worry if they will scam us because they build their reputation over the years and serve their members best.

But you cannot blame some of us to have still second thoughts even if the site is already serving people here for years because there are other site that build their reputation at first with good motivation but eventually turning into being scammers .

Yes, that is because the casino breaks the members' trust, so they need to build their reputation and even they already serve people for years or the casino will not continue their business.

Every problem that the members have will be solved by them, but we need to be patient because they have many members and need to investigate every issue carefully. But no matter what reputable gambling sites we played, we can not protect our money if we do not control ourselves. And if you still worry about playing gambling on those sites, you can use little money.

Actually mate using small money is not really a good strategy because scam site will never apprehend you with small amount of withdrawals but when you gain at least x5-10? then the question will start .

Yes, you are right. But the scam site will not show that they are one of the scam sites unless they scam people since they run their business. Using small money will only test how good the casino is and how we can trust them and if time goes by and we know that they are a scam site, we will not lose too big money with them. Getting x5-10 will only depend on your luck. After all, if we really got that big winning but did not allow us to withdraw, we only use small money, not big money.

[South Park]

the veracity of claims can be seen by proofs and explanation. so if the player has weak proofs and just talking because he's butt hurt with his losses, that's for me is not a valid accusation towards the site. so you need to check the validity also of the claims. not all accusations are true. some stemmed from big losses and they couldnt accept it.
an established casino won't ruin their name by simple mistake.

The issue is that this works here in the forum as we have DT members that take the time to actually look at the claims and the evidence and decide whether there are some grounds for the claim to be legitimate or not, but on the rest of the Internet people can make all kind of claims and no one is going to be there to challenge them, so the reputation of a casino can suffer just because one payer lost a lot of money and even if it was fair if they complain about it other people may believe their story without looking at the evidence.

[Fatunad]

the veracity of claims can be seen by proofs and explanation. so if the player has weak proofs and just talking because he's butt hurt with his losses, that's for me is not a valid accusation towards the site. so you need to check the validity also of the claims. not all accusations are true. some stemmed from big losses and they couldnt accept it.
an established casino won't ruin their name by simple mistake.

The issue is that this works here in the forum as we have DT members that take the time to actually look at the claims and the evidence and decide whether there are some grounds for the claim to be legitimate or not, but on the rest of the Internet people can make all kind of claims and no one is going to be there to challenge them, so the reputation of a casino can suffer just because one payer lost a lot of money and even if it was fair if they complain about it other people may believe their story without looking at the evidence.

Possible but most of the time it would be just ignored because 1 complaint wont be enough on taking down on sites reputation unless if this involved lots of money that hadnt been paid out and there's some sufficient evidence then it would really be ending up that business on point once its been proven.Once a gambling sites reputation had been painted out then those negative things would remain for a while which would affect their
ranking or popularity or something connected to that and its just part of the business and as an owner then you would really be needing to resolve those if you dont like for your business to be over.

[xSkylarx]

Scamming is really normal in a big business, at first they will catch you attention and they will really do their best just to trust them and if they already know that there are already a lot of people that is trusting them and they already have the money that was invested for them then that would be the time for them to scam people, do not fall for it always do some research to avoid getting scam.

and they will even spend big amount of money just to get our trust , sometimes they will build the name for long time and then will break it just for short chances.

And also these happens upon desperation , when the gambling site is experiencing lowering income and they starts to feel the pressure of the business? then they will act inappropriately so they will still make money even if they lose their credibility .

I agree to this.

Most likely this will happen when a gambling site doesn't have any license, they could do anything illegal since for sure, the people they have used on their team are not even legit, so they have the guts to runaway whenever they feel to do so, like what you have said, when they are not earning good anymore.

But if a certain gambling site do have a licence and SEC registered, I guess their only option is just to shutdown their business if they are not making any good bankroll.

Cant denied that if your licensed or regulated, the users does have the chance if ever they would turn out to be a scam but since we are on crypto world then that wouldnt really give an assurance.
Come to think that there are even good gambling sites now that doesnt have license so that simply means that being legit doesnt really need nor necessarily to have license but having
one in a business is mostly like had some advantage when it comes to public positive impressions but not all the times though.
Reputation cant be build over night and it does require lots of years for you to build one.

Cryptocurrency gambling world or not, as long as they come clean with complete legal papers to their Government on whichever country they belong, that's enough assurance to give to their players, because obviously if they would run off or decided to scam their players, then they could proceed to legal cases about it like filling a case against them, easy as that, if the people they scammed really wanted to do so.

When it comes to legal actions then nothing beats out if a certain company is registered or licensed because it could really be easily to be traced up and since people who are involved is known then

chances for some refund would really be there compared to those who aren't known or unlicensed which it is lesser in chance to make up some retrieval of funds.

This is why people does have that impression that having license would be much better compared to none.

Yes, you can take legal action against licensed businesses, but in my experience, unlicensed businesses are the most problematic. People are becoming more wary of both licensed and unlicensed businesses these days, and because there are so many scams out there, they always choose the legitimate one.Aside from refunds, licensed businesses can be assured that their service or product is good and worth it.

[worldofcoins]

For a business to build a reputation, it takes a lot of money and time to be invested to achieve this through marketing, brand awareness and all other activities.

But my question is why would they risk all they have invested to a few players by scamming them? I for one know the forum will side with the player that have been allegedly being scammed in most cases but how do casino's/bookies  protect themselves if not terms and conditions?

If people buy reviews to paint a picture of a good standing business,  what would stop the competition from buying people to tarnish a competitors reputation to have an advantage in the business?

This reminds me of Adkinsbet situation where they bought accounts of people or paid them to post negative reviews about their competitors but that attempt failed after they getting caught,
I think in most cases the guilty one Either Casino or Customers will leave a trail behind them unknowing to prove they are guilty and people who are good at catching these subtle cues will know.

[Betwrong]

The idea of regulation can be market based also, it doesn't just have to mean centralized authorities clearing through legal courts with lawyers and giant expenses to any case.  I'd suggest for crypto that its far more likely to be a market economy type of regulation where its unlikely to be beneficial in breaking a good reputation, that would be part of why this forum is useful in that it gives a voice to otherwise singular players but collectively the customers have some say as to the reputation of any operation.
~

Quite often, when googling about a crypto gambling site reputation I see some posts from bitcontalk in the top results. Unfortunately, this is far from being the case all the time. But really, where else we can find so many crypto gamblers gathered in one place? Also, people here value their reputation on this forum, so they are trying to provide honest information. I wish more people knew how useful this forum can be.

[South Park]

The idea of regulation can be market based also, it doesn't just have to mean centralized authorities clearing through legal courts with lawyers and giant expenses to any case.  I'd suggest for crypto that its far more likely to be a market economy type of regulation where its unlikely to be beneficial in breaking a good reputation, that would be part of why this forum is useful in that it gives a voice to otherwise singular players but collectively the customers have some say as to the reputation of any operation.
~

Quite often, when googling about a crypto gambling site reputation I see some posts from bitcontalk in the top results. Unfortunately, this is far from being the case all the time. But really, where else we can find so many crypto gamblers gathered in one place? Also, people here value their reputation on this forum, so they are trying to provide honest information. I wish more people knew how useful this forum can be.

This is good news, I never tried because when I search for information regarding the reputation of a casino I do it directly here in the forum and if I find out the casino does not have an ANN thread here then I do not bother with them anymore as the most important casinos have their threads here meaning that a casino with no ANN thread is simply not big enough or it is trying to avoid this forum actively which is never a good news.

[Fatunad]

The idea of regulation can be market based also, it doesn't just have to mean centralized authorities clearing through legal courts with lawyers and giant expenses to any case.  I'd suggest for crypto that its far more likely to be a market economy type of regulation where its unlikely to be beneficial in breaking a good reputation, that would be part of why this forum is useful in that it gives a voice to otherwise singular players but collectively the customers have some say as to the reputation of any operation.
~

Quite often, when googling about a crypto gambling site reputation I see some posts from bitcontalk in the top results. Unfortunately, this is far from being the case all the time. But really, where else we can find so many crypto gamblers gathered in one place? Also, people here value their reputation on this forum, so they are trying to provide honest information. I wish more people knew how useful this forum can be.

This is good news, I never tried because when I search for information regarding the reputation of a casino I do it directly here in the forum and if I find out the casino does not have an ANN thread here then I do not bother with them anymore as the most important casinos have their threads here meaning that a casino with no ANN thread is simply not big enough or it is trying to avoid this forum actively which is never a good news.

I have only learnt up on playing gambling after i had met up crypto and it do open an opportunity to deal with lots or various of things where gambling is one of it and just like you on when
the time i do look up for something then this is the common or first place i do look upon when in doubt neither a site is good or not because community feedback is always been the best
and reliable.You can directly determine if a site is a potential scam or had been on this place for years already or simply well established and reputable.
And this is one of the benefits or goodness when you are dealing yourself into a very active community in all aspects.

[boyptc]

This is good news, I never tried because when I search for information regarding the reputation of a casino I do it directly here in the forum and if I find out the casino does not have an ANN thread here then I do not bother with them anymore as the most important casinos have their threads here meaning that a casino with no ANN thread is simply not big enough or it is trying to avoid this forum actively which is never a good news.

It have become a standard.

For someone who's in the forum, if there's no official ann thread that's being found on the gambling section. It's what you and probably the others are doing.

It's not a bad basis and standard because you get to see people posting on their ann threads if there's a common problem or they've got a trust issues from the community that have gambled on their casino.

[Twinkledoe]

This is good news, I never tried because when I search for information regarding the reputation of a casino I do it directly here in the forum and if I find out the casino does not have an ANN thread here then I do not bother with them anymore as the most important casinos have their threads here meaning that a casino with no ANN thread is simply not big enough or it is trying to avoid this forum actively which is never a good news.

It have become a standard.

For someone who's in the forum, if there's no official ann thread that's being found on the gambling section. It's what you and probably the others are doing.

It's not a bad basis and standard because you get to see people posting on their ann threads if there's a common problem or they've got a trust issues from the community that have gambled on their casino.

This is true. Most forum users stick to casinos that are found in this forum because it is easier to interact with the casino rep if they have thread here. But for some who want to check the reputation of the site, you can always check the trustpilot - https://www.trustpilot.com/ also. Sometimes, you can read outside reviews but of course, verify also the authenticity of the complaint. Because some are bogus reviews. But for me, this forum alone is more than enough to know the reputation of the casino.

[boyptc]

This is good news, I never tried because when I search for information regarding the reputation of a casino I do it directly here in the forum and if I find out the casino does not have an ANN thread here then I do not bother with them anymore as the most important casinos have their threads here meaning that a casino with no ANN thread is simply not big enough or it is trying to avoid this forum actively which is never a good news.

It have become a standard.

For someone who's in the forum, if there's no official ann thread that's being found on the gambling section. It's what you and probably the others are doing.

It's not a bad basis and standard because you get to see people posting on their ann threads if there's a common problem or they've got a trust issues from the community that have gambled on their casino.

This is true. Most forum users stick to casinos that are found in this forum because it is easier to interact with the casino rep if they have thread here. But for some who want to check the reputation of the site, you can always check the trustpilot - https://www.trustpilot.com/ also. Sometimes, you can read outside reviews but of course, verify also the authenticity of the complaint. Because some are bogus reviews. But for me, this forum alone is more than enough to know the reputation of the casino.

Yes, some of them don't have the rep and became inactive but as much as you see, there are reviews already being posted which will be helpful for your choice.

Those other reviews website will help you but check if it's obvious that those reviews are paid.

[ethereumhunter]

I have only learnt up on playing gambling after i had met up crypto and it do open an opportunity to deal with lots or various of things where gambling is one of it and just like you on when
the time i do look up for something then this is the common or first place i do look upon when in doubt neither a site is good or not because community feedback is always been the best
and reliable.You can directly determine if a site is a potential scam or had been on this place for years already or simply well established and reputable.
And this is one of the benefits or goodness when you are dealing yourself into a very active community in all aspects.

Searching the recommended gambling site here is not easy. As long as the site has the active thread and @OP and they do not have a problem except fixing the member mention, that can be the site that we can try to play gambling. We can also stay away from one site if the site wants to trick people, so we do not lose our money on the bad site.

[Lakai01]

Searching the recommended gambling site here is not easy. As long as the site has the active thread and @OP and they do not have a problem except fixing the member mention, that can be the site that we can try to play gambling. We can also stay away from one site if the site wants to trick people, so we do not lose our money on the bad site.

Have you ever taken a look at https://www.btcgosu.com? This site compares online casinos, regularly posts bonus promotions and investigates scam accusations against casinos and warns users about them if they actually turn out to be true. I personally like to use it, especially when I want to try a new casino and am about to deposit BTC. So you do not have to follow umpteen threads here in the forum but get important information immediately at a glance.

[bitterguy28]

I have only learnt up on playing gambling after i had met up crypto and it do open an opportunity to deal with lots or various of things where gambling is one of it and just like you on when
the time i do look up for something then this is the common or first place i do look upon when in doubt neither a site is good or not because community feedback is always been the best
and reliable.You can directly determine if a site is a potential scam or had been on this place for years already or simply well established and reputable.
And this is one of the benefits or goodness when you are dealing yourself into a very active community in all aspects.

Searching the recommended gambling site here is not easy. As long as the site has the active thread and @OP and they do not have a problem except fixing the member mention, that can be the site that we can try to play gambling. We can also stay away from one site if the site wants to trick people, so we do not lose our money on the bad site.

Just go around gambling section and reputation/scam accusations section will help you find a legit and good one.
also service section is the place where advertising is come and promoting site in the open.

with those help you can evaluate which site is legit and safe to play.