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June 27, 2021, 02:22:18 PM
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Hi, long time reader..

I'm impressed that this website has lasted for such a long time. Eleven years! Certainly that time must have passed with occasional drama, not just with Satoshi leaving. It seems like this forum would attract more problems than most. (Although anything interesting and worthwhile attracts trolls these days..)   The increase of bitcoin's worth has no doubt helped.

But, how did you do it? How have the mods resolved issues? How have you avoided too many trolls, or kept interest (in moderating) this long?
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June 27, 2021, 03:38:22 PM
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Hi, long time reader..

I'm impressed that this website has lasted for such a long time. Eleven years! Certainly that time must have passed with occasional drama, not just with Satoshi leaving. It seems like this forum would attract more problems than most. (Although anything interesting and worthwhile attracts trolls these days..)   The increase of bitcoin's worth has no doubt helped.

Yes, It's pretty so long time journey for a crypto related forum. This was the first and biggest and still it is biggest forum in crypto world.


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But, how did you do it? How have the mods resolved issues? How have you avoided too many trolls, or kept interest (in moderating) this long?
Mods don't care about the drama/trolls outside this forum. That means they have not need to solve the issue outside. They just monitor this forum and still they are doing their best to give us best support from their end.

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June 27, 2021, 04:18:25 PM
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Hi, long time reader..

I'm impressed that this website has lasted for such a long time. Eleven years! Certainly that time must have passed with occasional drama, not just with Satoshi leaving. It seems like this forum would attract more problems than most. (Although anything interesting and worthwhile attracts trolls these days..)   The increase of bitcoin's worth has no doubt helped.

But, how did you do it? How have the mods resolved issues? How have you avoided too many trolls, or kept interest (in moderating) this long?


When there's a legend associated with it, it's hard to die Grin

Moderating is part and parcel of every forum, so those mods handling those things are nothing out of the ordinary.

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June 27, 2021, 04:27:24 PM
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Not only one who moderating this forum there is many moderators here on the forum that keeps our forum healthy.
If you want to see all the forum mods and staff you can find it from this link below.

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5206428.0

Also, without the help of the community, no one will report any issues, trolls, or posts that against the rules(That's the nature of forum).

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June 27, 2021, 04:54:31 PM
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It seems like this forum would attract more problems than most.
Can't speak to the problems most other forums face, because I'm not active in many others.  The ones I have belonged to have invariably had much tougher rules than bitcointalk, though.  Some of them don't allow even the hint of offensive posts--or foul language, or scamming.  So yeah, I'd imagine that this forum does attract far more bullshit than others since there seems to be much more freedom to write what you want here.  It's not out of control, however.  The moderators do a damn good job deleting any spam or garbage posts, bots, and whatever else turns up.

How have you avoided too many trolls, or kept interest (in moderating) this long?
Personally?  I created this thread a couple years ago when we had a member named cryptohunter constantly stirring up shit with thread after thread of the same crap for years.  It had gotten so bad by the time I made that thread that I felt I had to rally the community to stop feeding the monster troll. 

It didn't quite work, because cryptohunter had a nasty way of targeting members in his threads that would draw responses from them, which would then suck in other members....and it just went on and on.  And then we've had some outspoken, controversial members who've left the forum in the past two years or so: Vod, TECSHARE, Lauda, Phinnaeus Gage (Bruno), and TMAN, which has decreased the amount of drama here significantly.  Meta and Reputation used to be full of drama threads, but now it's relatively quiet.

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But, how did you do it? How have the mods resolved issues? How have you avoided too many trolls, or kept interest (in moderating) this long?
It's the oldest and most popular Bitcoin forum, and it comes with a lot of history about the beginnings of bitcoin and different popular altcoins which means the more success Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies attract, the stronger the forum will go.

Let's not forget that the admins have done a very great job. I have seen certain forums suffer attacks or hacks, and they end up collapsing, but this forum I think had only one serious hack which i remember. After that, there hasn't been any major incident I know of.

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June 27, 2021, 08:25:09 PM
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Hi, long time reader..

I'm impressed that this website has lasted for such a long time. Eleven years! Certainly that time must have passed with occasional drama, not just with Satoshi leaving. It seems like this forum would attract more problems than most. (Although anything interesting and worthwhile attracts trolls these days..)   The increase of bitcoin's worth has no doubt helped.

But, how did you do it? How have the mods resolved issues? How have you avoided too many trolls, or kept interest (in moderating) this long?


It's a tough journey for this forum but still around after 11 years, The cryptocurrency is getting bigger so a lot of people are also interested in joining the forum and from different countries.

We have a lot of great moderators here in the forum and we have theymos the admin that maintain the forum, We are all in cryptocurrency as well, and doing or dedicating your time in this forum is a big commitment to moderators and members that still here in the forum, I guess it is just because we all win here as we continue our journey we learn and earn at the same time.

The fact that satoshi is the one who started the forum is I think a big factor, where also consider as one of the top cryptocurrency or bitcoin forums out there.

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June 27, 2021, 08:44:27 PM
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11 years  online is impressive achievement, but not something extraordinary. There is many forums (not about Bitcoin obviously) which are running for much longer. There is some websites which are online for more than 20 years.
But fact that Bitcointalk is working from early days of Bitcoin is amazing. I think fact that Satoshi and early Bitcoin adopters used to discuss here helped this forum to stay until now. I know that in Bitcoin world, word "official" shouldn't be used, but I think that from early days many people consider this forum as official Bitcoin discussion forum and because of this they aren't looking for alternatives.
Also, forum always been in good hands - theymos and his team of moderators are doing great job.
Though, in recent years many prominent members left forum, so, there is not much drama here these days.

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The website lasted a long time and still lasts with its old software and UI...

Even if we forget everything, this forum is just an online treasure and museum, a place where the legendary Satoshi Nakamoto was posting, a place where the other legendary people were posting, a place where the businesses were built and conquered the crypto space and a place where you'll see the community like no other.

I think this forum needs something new, I feel that as time goes, more people leave this forum. I loved the 2014-2017 years of bitcointalk. Sadly, right now, even cointelegraph has 2x better Alexa rank than bitcointalk.org

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Even if we forget everything, this forum is just an online treasure and museum, a place where the legendary Satoshi Nakamoto was posting, a place where the other legendary people were posting, a place where the businesses were built and conquered the crypto space and a place where you'll see the community like no other.
See?  This is why I need my sMerits replenished ASAP.  I'd love to merit this post but can't because I'm all out--can someone please merit shield132's post as a favor to me? 

Bitcointalk in its present state does indeed feel like a museum, and that's one of the things I love about it, that it hasn't changed in its appearance over the years (or at least since I've been here, which was 2015).  Plus all the old posts made in the early days of bitcoin are pretty much still here if you care to look.

I loved the 2014-2017 years of bitcointalk. Sadly, right now, even cointelegraph has 2x better Alexa rank than bitcointalk.org
Those years had a lot of drama in them, that's what I remember--plus the bitcoin fever that happened leading up to the crash at the end of 2017.  It was a giddy time for all, because bitcoin was soaring.  The ICO craze started in that period as well, and I don't think that was a good thing.  There were tons of scams and it led to idiot shitposters almost ruining the forum because of all the bounties.

By the way, what does it matter that bitcointalk isn't ranked as highly as cointelegraph on Alexa?  It's not a competition.

11 years  online is impressive achievement, but not something extraordinary. There is many forums (not about Bitcoin obviously) which are running for much longer. There is some websites which are online for more than 20 years.
No, it's not extraordinary and I'd say it's not even unexpected that this forum would last this long given how many people use the site to make money.  Bitcointalk would probably still exist if there weren't any campaigns or bounties, but I'd bet that there would be much, much less activity here.

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June 27, 2021, 11:25:18 PM
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Hi, long time reader..

I'm impressed that this website has lasted for such a long time. Eleven years! Certainly that time must have passed with occasional drama, not just with Satoshi leaving. It seems like this forum would attract more problems than most. (Although anything interesting and worthwhile attracts trolls these days..)   The increase of bitcoin's worth has no doubt helped.

But, how did you do it? How have the mods resolved issues? How have you avoided too many trolls, or kept interest (in moderating) this long?


The dramas were handled pretty great by the mods despite some of it lasts for either weeks, months, or even years as for some still keeps their burden on the issue. Imagine Satoshi is still on hunt by some users in the forum and still posts "who really is satoshi" lol. But yeah, trolls or dramas that doesn't makes any sense were just mostly not given too much attention and mods just either ban them or users just flags them. I think from time to time where dramas and issues keeps popping out, most users who engage in such discussions tend to just not give a f* when the discussions is just circling around opinions.
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June 28, 2021, 05:15:04 AM
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I'm impressed that this website has lasted for such a long time. Eleven years!

But, how did you do it? How have the mods resolved issues? How have you avoided too many trolls, or kept interest (in moderating) this long?
Moderators come and go. Admins come and go and the head admin position has been changed many times, from satoshi to Sirius and theymos.

Moderators do their moderation by their own scanning, cleaning time. I am sure they will take moderation on any post they see that breaks rule.
In addition, moderators do their works with reports from the community members. You report, they handle your report.

The forum has admins, moderators and members. It does not exist for long without those vital elements.

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kaggie, you asked very interesting questions  Cheesy
This forum is not perfect and actually has a lot of problems, and some problems have already been mentioned like trolling, spam etc.
A lot of members have actually left this forum and it seems to me that young people lately prefer telegram groups and social networks for crypto discussions.
The popularity of this forum is actually related to the popularity of bitcoin and crypto, and also the power of the habit is very important.
People find it difficult to change their habits, over the years some friendships have been created here and also the possibilities of earning bitcoin on this forum should not be neglected.

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June 28, 2021, 07:54:13 AM
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Signature & bounty campaigns will keep the forums alive. Otherwise, Without the campaigns, I think most people will move away to other social media sites. Theymos & Mods really did a great job.

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June 28, 2021, 08:53:37 AM
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But, how did you do it?

Signature campaigns and bounties do help.
Also the forum is known as a good starting point to fix problems (various services and software may be pointing here), and I agree that the ranking in search engines needs certain improvement.


How have you avoided too many trolls, or kept interest (in moderating) this long?

Since trolling is against the rules, trolls are usually reported by the community, helping solve the problem.


I think that the winning "strategy" is a mix of history, common sense rules, helping community, good mods and, again, the paying campaigns.

See?  This is why I need my sMerits replenished ASAP.  I'd love to merit this post but can't because I'm all out--can someone please merit shield132's post as a favor to me? 

Fixed that for ya  Wink Not as a favor, just simply because it's well deserved.

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June 28, 2021, 08:58:36 AM
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No, it's not extraordinary and I'd say it's not even unexpected that this forum would last this long given how many people use the site to make money.  Bitcointalk would probably still exist if there weren't any campaigns or bounties, but I'd bet that there would be much, much less activity here.

That's pretty much the truth. Most (especially without jobs/ experience) are motivated to earn and with bounty campaigns paying quite decently depending on rank, it's a no-brainer once they attain the eligible status.

Maybe there are more niche subforums, such as Lending but if Bitcointalk were to further incorporate common topics; latest hardware, travelling, automotive, it would make discussions more interesting, and make signature campaigns more diverse. Not to mention it becomes a more enjoyable place to socialize.

However I'm pretty certain there would be hardcore naysayers to this, defending the nature of the whole branding/ Bitcoin cause; Satoshi be rolling in his grave should this happen.

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June 28, 2021, 12:13:31 PM
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I've backed away from posting over the last few months.. The dig spammers who believe in fiat rather than Bitcoin dropped the posting quality quite a bit. The bankers' pandemic has change things quite a bit for me - I no longer spend hours on the computer in Mcdonalds drinking coffee, and I don't respect the sheeple who wander everywhere wearing face masks. I find it difficult to believe that so many people have fallen for the manipulation that has ramped up a minor virus that has been around since the 1930s into a massive transfer of wealth away from people and the national reserves.
I'm srill converting my van, and once I have got a decent comms centre installed, then I'll try to create some non-political discussion threads.

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June 28, 2021, 01:01:28 PM
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I'm impressed that this website has lasted for such a long time.

There are many other sites like facebook etc which also last for many years and will continue even further. By bitcoin talk forum, you mean that bitcoin have managed to survive with all the governments and financial institutions opposing it ?     Well, that's an achievement to remain and grow when the main stream power is against it.

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June 28, 2021, 04:42:01 PM
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Fixed that for ya  Wink Not as a favor, just simply because it's well deserved.
I appreciate it very much, and I hate that I have to ask like that, but for some reason it seems like my sMerits aren't being topped up as fast as they used to.  Or maybe I'm just using them up faster.  Anyway, thanks.

I no longer spend hours on the computer in Mcdonalds drinking coffee, and I don't respect the sheeple who wander everywhere wearing face masks. I find it difficult to believe that so many people have fallen for the manipulation that has ramped up a minor virus that has been around since the 1930s into a massive transfer of wealth away from people and the national reserves.
Hey, Jet Cash!  I'm one of those sheeple, but in the US the mask restriction has been lifted in most settings (you still have to wear them in government buildings and in medical settings).  I also think it's idiotic, but I actually don't mind covering my face.  Good to see you're still around and I hope you get that comm center up and running in your van.  You're one of the reasons why this forum has been a good place for the past few years, and you've done a lot to help newbies.

Most (especially without jobs/ experience) are motivated to earn and with bounty campaigns paying quite decently depending on rank, it's a no-brainer once they attain the eligible status.
Indeed.  But as I've always said, just because someone is motivated by money to post, it doesn't mean that person's posts have to be garbage.  Look at the Chipmixer campaign (and *ahem* Foxpup's exclusive Merit Cycling Club); only members who know how to write and/or attract attention get into campaigns like that, and to be accepted you have to have an established history of making quality posts.  Sadly, a lot of other campaigns have much lower standards, and most token-paying bounties have almost no standards whatsoever.


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June 28, 2021, 06:11:36 PM
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I'm impressed that this website has lasted for such a long time. Eleven years! Certainly that time must have passed with occasional drama, not just with Satoshi leaving. It seems like this forum would attract more problems than most. (Although anything interesting and worthwhile attracts trolls these days..)   The increase of bitcoin's worth has no doubt helped.
Really the the platform have stayed more than my expectations, when i joined the community i taught the community is like a group that will not be interactive or been formative in terms of discussion, then i have to took my time to read through the history of the community, after then i have to notice that the community is broad and it's a continuous process irrespective the problems or challenges that is affecting it, i know vividly that for the community to stay up to one to five (1-5) years their is hope.

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