Oh dear. 105mph

[Jet Cash]

I'm parked in a lay-by, and an unmarked police car has stopped next to me with his lights flashing. Another car stopped behind him, and I heard the cop say that he was clocked at 105 mph by a calibrated speedo. This must have been on a motorway with a 70mph limit. He has just given him a ticket. So what do you think, is 70mph too low a limit?

[Cnut237]

Difficult to say. 70 is the limit, but in all the time I've been on motorways, the fast lane is always well over 70, unless there's heavy traffic, roadworks, or a police car. So a sizeable proportion of drivers go well over 70 anyway.

If people drive at 80 when there's a 70 limit, then would they drive at 90 when there's an 80 limit? Or 100 with a 90 limit? I don't think we know. Presumably some people who are comfortable driving at 80 wouldn't feel safe at 100... so the higher the speed limit is, the fewer cars exceed it.

But if someone is willing to go 105 in a 70 limit, 50% over the limit, then I'd say he's likely willing to go as fast as his car will let him, and is probably a danger to other drivers, whatever the speed limit.

calibrated speedo.

I'd imagine they help you to swim faster, but they're probably banned in the Olympics.

[LTU_btc]

I think it depends on some factors like how good and wide road is, how intensive traffic is and etc. 70 mph is somewhat 110 km/h, what is more or less optimal speed. On some motorways it can be 80mph. But 105 mph is way too much for public roads. Yes, there is Autobahns in Germany where there is no speed limits, but I think it's more exception. I think there is simply too many drivers on roads who shouldn't be allowed to drive to have high speed limits.

[BADecker]

The speed limit should be anything you want...
but if you harm or kill anyone, or damage his property...
Same thing should be done to you with few exceptions.

Safe speeds should be posted. Officers should stop those going drastically or unsafely over posted limits, to give them a sharp warning that they are making themselves liable... possibly to execution.

This way we can get rid of officer threat, so that we can focus on safe driving, rather than if a cop is around.

Also, there will always be jokers who drive over the limit, just as there are right now. But with the punishment being execution for loss of life, they will think twice when they see it starting to happen to others. We'll get rid of the unsafe jokers that way.

[Gyfts]

75 mph (120 km/h) seems reasonable, that way everyone can go around 80 mph or so reasonably. I've heard of cops pulling over people for going 3 or 4 mph over the limit though, only to let them go with a warning (why bother pulling them over if it's for that much?) 105 mph is way too fast, you go that fast you deserve to get pulled over and hit with a fine.

[acroman08]

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what exceptions would that be? you are endangering human lives by saying "the speed limit should be anything you want..." just because you don't want to be held back by the rules that were set by the government. I know that you have your own point of view of society, government, etc... and I respect that, but this statement of yours is just plain stupid.

[BADecker]

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what exceptions would that be? you are endangering human lives by saying "the speed limit should be anything you want..." just because you don't want to be held back by the rules that were set by the government. - That's not true. Nothing changes. People don't obey the speed limits right now unless they want to. When they get a ticket, all they are getting is a slap on the hand. They pay a fine, and go out and disobey some more. Slap on the hand, and the government makes money.

If there was freedom to drive whatever speed you wanted, nothing changes. The difference in my plan is to make the person who gets in an accident going over the speed limit, to pay out-of-pocket for any damages he causes... including execution for killing somebody.

What would happen? The dangerous people would be off the roads, either executed, or paying off damages. The smart people would still obey the limit as they always had. And people would be more focused on their driving, because they wouldn't have to worry there was a cop around every bush. I know that you have your own point of view of society, government, etc... and I respect that, but this statement of yours is just plain stupid.

The fact that you haven't thought it through, shows that you have been duped by the government. All they want is people to pull over so they can make money. And they have trained you so well, that you, and others like you, are actually helping them make lots of money off folks, while letting the damage and deaths go on... including insurance rates going up.

[acroman08]

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are you saying that an accident should happen first before a driver is fined? I hope you realize that there is so much wrong that can happen if a person is threatened to be killed especially if that person is not yet apprehended. the world is already fucked up and this statement of yours will make it worse. but of course, you won't see that and that is fine. have a good day  

I do want stricter punishment for traffic violators btw. not that it matters to you anyway.

[semobo]

I'm parked in a lay-by, and an unmarked police car has stopped next to me with his lights flashing. Another car stopped behind him, and I heard the cop say that he was clocked at 105 mph by a calibrated speedo. This must have been on a motorway with a 70mph limit. He has just given him a ticket. So what do you think, is 70mph too low a limit?

Its too low for a car enthusiast who loves to rev it, even it is low for a family budget car because if you just rev then it will almost clock upto 170+ when the car is just loaded with 1500 cc or 2.0 For premium cars it too low to be honest.

[Ultegra134]

Difficult to say. 70 is the limit, but in all the time I've been on motorways, the fast lane is always well over 70, unless there's heavy traffic, roadworks, or a police car. So a sizeable proportion of drivers go well over 70 anyway.

If people drive at 80 when there's a 70 limit, then would they drive at 90 when there's an 80 limit? Or 100 with a 90 limit? I don't think we know. Presumably some people who are comfortable driving at 80 wouldn't feel safe at 100... so the higher the speed limit is, the fewer cars exceed it.

But if someone is willing to go 105 in a 70 limit, 50% over the limit, then I'd say he's likely willing to go as fast as his car will let him, and is probably a danger to other drivers, whatever the speed limit.

calibrated speedo.

I'd imagine they help you to swim faster, but they're probably banned in the Olympics.

That's a valid point, which I've caught myself doing too, quite a few times to be honest. If the limit is at 70 mph, there are a few instances, depending on the road of course, that I might go beyond that, 80 for example. I'm generally careful when it comes to speeding, most roads here have low limits, such as 60 kph (approximately 40 mph), which is ridiculously low, and tend to go above that frequently, but as I said, always depending on the road and weather conditions.

[Mauser]

I'm parked in a lay-by, and an unmarked police car has stopped next to me with his lights flashing. Another car stopped behind him, and I heard the cop say that he was clocked at 105 mph by a calibrated speedo. This must have been on a motorway with a 70mph limit. He has just given him a ticket. So what do you think, is 70mph too low a limit?

It all depends on in which area you live. If there is usually a lot of traffic with many traffic jams, than a higher speed limit probably won't make any real difference. But if you live in a rural area where the there is not a lot of traffic, then a higher speed limit would be a good idea. Most of the new cars have such powerful engines that 70 mph is not really a lot for them. For me the best would be a speed limit of 90.

[BADecker]

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are you saying that an accident should happen first before a driver is fined? I hope you realize that there is so much wrong that can happen if a person is threatened to be killed especially if that person is not yet apprehended. the world is already fucked up and this statement of yours will make it worse. but of course, you won't see that and that is fine. have a good day  

I do want stricter punishment for traffic violators btw. not that it matters to you anyway.

I'm saying that a driver should never be fined. Rather, he should be required to pay for damages that he does... up to and including execution if he kills someone. The closest anyone should come to paying fines is that he should pay court costs when found guilty.

I am not saying that warning speed limits should not be posted. All warning signs, including speed limits, should be increased in number and size. But the punishment will be severe for anyone breaking one of the posted warnings, and at the same time doing damage to someone else. After a few executions, people will be very careful to obey the speed warnings. You'll barely need cops at all, except to clean up the mess afterward from a few idiots who don't care. Those idiots don't care right now.

Lose their license? In the states right now, anybody who knows what he is doing, doesn't need a license to drive. He'll get hassles for a while. But if he knows what he is doing in court, he'll win. A smart court leader will drop the charges before the State or municipality is made to pay for arresting the guy... ditto, taking away his right to travel - 1st Amendment.