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July 03, 2021, 10:43:18 PM
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He has learned his lessons with his past match against Inoue and I think he'll put more effort that we had given with that match. I thought that it was Casimero who's going to fight Inoue. What has the highest chance to happen? the title or Casimero - Inoue?

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July 03, 2021, 10:43:46 PM
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Well, perhaps the reason why Donaire canceled his fight against Casimero because they are both Filipino and now Donaire's target is Inoue because of the revenge. But the eagerneies was only on the Donaire's side not on Inuoe and there is a chance that Inoue will not accept the chance to fight that was challenged by Donaire. Although there is no announcement yet and that is only a rumor, it could be the judges mind will change who will be the next. But who knwos there is an announcemnet.
They should not make announcement with regards to that fight if they think they are both Filipino, it’s just that Donaire can’t handle the trash talk and Casimero is playing a dirty trick. Going back on this discussion, we know these are two great boxer, they have history and there’s a chance for this match again. If Pinoy can’t beat Inoue this time, then I believe there’s no other way but to accept that fact.

Yes, it is the trash talk that made Donaire called off the match. As Casimero's camp disrespected Donaire's wife. We don't know if this will gonna push thru. But if there are no demands to push thru, I think this one is really shelved for good. Now, it is interesting which fighter they will face next. I don't think Inoue will accept the fight for Donaire if he has not fought another boxer before him. But if they will see the demand from their boxing fans, maybe they will set-up for this re-match.
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July 03, 2021, 11:22:55 PM
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He has learned his lessons with his past match against Inoue and I think he'll put more effort that we had given with that match. I thought that it was Casimero who's going to fight Inoue. What has the highest chance to happen? the title or Casimero - Inoue?

Even though Donaire learned some lessons from their first fight but I don't think it's enough for him to beat the Monster as Inoue too have learned some lessons and if this fight happens it would be less difficult as he knows what to do.

Things become complicated and it became disadvantageous to Inoue as he needs two fights before unifying all the four belts.

With Bob Arum saying he could deliver the Inoue-Donaire rematch then 90 percent this would push through then Monster vs Quadro Alas for the climax considering that Casimero will beat Rigo next month.

IMO, Csimero has a higher chance of beating Inoue than Donaire.

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July 04, 2021, 02:21:52 AM
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IMO, Csimero has a higher chance of beating Inoue than Donaire.

I am also thinking of this. But Donaire was already given a chance but he failed. So I think Casimero has more chances. And I think Casimero smells blood quicker than Donaire and would urgently exploit it while the opportunity is there. Casimero is one wild fighter that gives powerful haymakers and uppercuts to an opponent who is already wobbling. If Inoue would go through this, Casimero would certainly jump right into him and try to finish him right there and then.
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July 04, 2021, 02:27:03 AM
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Is the fight going to happen or this thread is speculation?

In any case, Donaire will have to deal with Inoue's power again, and he has to adjust and need to be perfect and not allow Inoue to get some points in the judges scorecard if the fight goes to distance. He rally late, Inoue is like ahead by 4 points at least average. But given that Donaire's timing is still there, he might pull an upset maybe in later round knock out.

 
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July 04, 2021, 03:08:27 AM
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Inoue is a real beast. I don't see anybody beating him. If it weren't for the pandemic limiting travel then I think this fight would do a very big gate in Las Vegas. Both fighters will want a large purse so this fight might end up on pay-per-view. The first fight was an all-time classic so there will be a lot of interest in this rematch.

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July 04, 2021, 05:40:03 AM
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Since Donaire vs Casimero fight is already off, and we heard a lot of rumors that Donaire will be fighting Inou.

What can you say about the rematch, will Donaire be able to avenge his loss and win the fight, or we will see the same result in their first fight.

Nonito Donaire - current holder of WBC World Bantam Title
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/48243

Naoya Inoue- Current holder of WBA Super Bantam Title/IBF world Bantam Title.
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/628407

I don't see a different outcome unless Inoue will come unprepared, Donaire is good on his last fight but he has fought very slow and a lack of skills boxer in Oubaali I don't see a different outcome with the way Inoue prepare and fight he can even knock Donaire out I prepare the Casimero - Inoue fight it's a long time coming.
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July 04, 2021, 07:12:20 AM
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the first fight isn't a close fight. did inoue already said they will have a 2nd?
It was not close but Donaire just did well.
Inoue would always want to fight anyone, even Casimero, but it's always up to his promoter Bob Arum.

There's a rumor circulating that Bob Arum talks to Donaire, and it's possible that he offered the Inoue fight and during the post-fight interview of Donaire, he said he wants a rematch on Inoue for unification.

for someone who sees it as TKO, it's definitely not close when one party just kneels and gives up. base on the score it was a close fight.

unification would be good, they are both champ. the fight will generate more money than a fight versus casimero that's for sure else arum wouldn't be making the fight possible. a 2nd chance for donaire.

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July 04, 2021, 08:34:57 AM
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unification would be good, they are both champ. the fight will generate more money than a fight versus casimero that's for sure else arum wouldn't be making the fight possible. a 2nd chance for donaire.

Maybe Bob Arum is confident that his guy Inoue would beat Donaire easily than Casimero. If we can remember it was also Bob Arum who scrap the supposed Inoue vs Casimero fight where his reason is that the Japanese Monster is unable to travel to the US because of the pandemic but if he is keen on holding that fight, he surely could have made it easily.

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July 04, 2021, 10:10:50 AM
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It not going to be an easy fight because Donaire would seek to salvage his first experience but I still see Inuoe winning the match with a slim defeat I guess it might seem like a game of luck this time because Donaire is going to give in his very best I mean his all into this rematch.
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July 04, 2021, 10:29:42 AM
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It not going to be an easy fight because Donaire would seek to salvage his first experience but I still see Inuoe winning the match with a slim defeat I guess it might seem like a game of luck this time because Donaire is going to give in his very best I mean his all into this rematch.

Let's just see, I think Donaire is too old for Inoue, though we call himself the Filipino Flash, IMO, I Inoue is still more faster and powerful than him. If I have to choose and bet, I would go all in with Inoue, I just hope the odds are good not like the first fight.

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July 04, 2021, 11:01:39 AM
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If there's a poll I would also vote for Inoue. It's a no-brainer that Inoue will the favorite of this fight and just like in the past, I think it will not be an easy for Inoue as Donaire had already seen what Inoue can and he will adjust in this fight.

it's more on the technical aspect where fighters will not be aggressive, instead, they will look for one's mistake and take advantage of it.
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July 04, 2021, 08:53:37 PM
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He has learned his lessons with his past match against Inoue and I think he'll put more effort that we had given with that match. I thought that it was Casimero who's going to fight Inoue. What has the highest chance to happen? the title or Casimero - Inoue?

Even though Donaire learned some lessons from their first fight but I don't think it's enough for him to beat the Monster as Inoue too have learned some lessons and if this fight happens it would be less difficult as he knows what to do.

Things become complicated and it became disadvantageous to Inoue as he needs two fights before unifying all the four belts.

With Bob Arum saying he could deliver the Inoue-Donaire rematch then 90 percent this would push through then Monster vs Quadro Alas for the climax considering that Casimero will beat Rigo next month.

IMO, Csimero has a higher chance of beating Inoue than Donaire.
The other opinions that I've read about beating Inoue is different. But whomever can beat Inoue, either Casimero or Donaire, the people want to see Inoue being down.
But it is for sure going to be hard for any of them and he surely have studied both of them or whoever he's going to match with.

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July 04, 2021, 08:58:44 PM
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He has learned his lessons with his past match against Inoue and I think he'll put more effort that we had given with that match. I thought that it was Casimero who's going to fight Inoue. What has the highest chance to happen? the title or Casimero - Inoue?

Even though Donaire learned some lessons from their first fight but I don't think it's enough for him to beat the Monster as Inoue too have learned some lessons and if this fight happens it would be less difficult as he knows what to do.

Things become complicated and it became disadvantageous to Inoue as he needs two fights before unifying all the four belts.

With Bob Arum saying he could deliver the Inoue-Donaire rematch then 90 percent this would push through then Monster vs Quadro Alas for the climax considering that Casimero will beat Rigo next month.

IMO, Csimero has a higher chance of beating Inoue than Donaire.
The other opinions that I've read about beating Inoue is different. But whomever can beat Inoue, either Casimero or Donaire, the people want to see Inoue being down.
But it is for sure going to be hard for any of them and he surely have studied both of them or whoever he's going to match with.
Inoue's team would be prepared and would make out some analysis on both fighters since its either one of them would be fighting him and its just part of the strategy because you cant just
slip those kind of information or analysis towards on possible opponent in the future.

I agree that beating Inoue is really hard considering on how this guy make out some heavy punches specially on body blows then its really hard to presume that
he can be easily beaten.

Dont know on why the public do really love for Inoue to lose as this guy is already my favorite not just on his capability but i do love his boxing style and also his behavior.

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July 04, 2021, 09:12:56 PM
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I dont think Casimero here still be not respectful, after he has withdrawn from the fight and throw a negative comment about Donaire's wife. He is not a professional boxer, since he knows that he really doesn't have a match for Donaire. The reason Donaire also backout the fight through the VADA.

Then the prediction match could be Casimero vs Cuban Guillermo Rigondeaux and Donaire vs Inoue.

Let's wait again if there is an announcement between them, for now it is really hard to tell if this possible match will happen.

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July 04, 2021, 09:17:36 PM
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I do not think Donaire is good enough to win the rematch but I do think he will make the adjustments needed to make it a close fight. Inoue is not being put down by Donaire for sure. I think this will be a close fight that Inoue will just edge or it could be a draw.

If there's a poll I would also vote for Inoue. It's a no-brainer that Inoue will the favorite of this fight and just like in the past, I think it will not be an easy for Inoue as Donaire had already seen what Inoue can and he will adjust in this fight.

it's more on the technical aspect where fighters will not be aggressive, instead, they will look for one's mistake and take advantage of it.
He will adjust and that is why I think it will be closer than some people are predicting in this thread. I think it might be worth putting some money down on a draw. I think Inoue might have some bias from the judges even if Donaire was to edge him on the night I think the judges might keep it close regardless and give it as a draw. Inoue is someone they will want to keep the hype around for his next fight. Donaire I am not sure he has the following that Inoue has.
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July 04, 2021, 09:32:29 PM
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Dont know on why the public do really love for Inoue to lose as this guy is already my favorite not just on his capability but i do love his boxing style and also his behavior.

Some fans maybe but not the public because the majority of the gamblers still favor Inoue to win the fight again. The first fight is not even close, so why would we think Donaire would win here, just because got a good win against Nordine Oubaali doesn't change the fact that Donaire lost against Inoue via unanimous decision. 

Donaire here trying to make an upset, and Inoue's fans say it's not possible.

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July 04, 2021, 09:48:31 PM
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Donaire here trying to make an upset, and Inoue's fans say it's not possible.

Fans are biased, that's the reality.

In the last fight of Inoue against Dasmarinas, many Filipinos believe that Dasmarinas could upset Inoue although the betting odds say otherwise. nah, you can't expect an honest opinion here, all are just based on bias opinion, and that makes the fight more interesting as we have fans from both sides willing to defend their fighter's chance in the fight.
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July 05, 2021, 01:03:32 AM
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Donaire here trying to make an upset, and Inoue's fans say it's not possible.

Fans are biased, that's the reality.

In the last fight of Inoue against Dasmarinas, many Filipinos believe that Dasmarinas could upset Inoue although the betting odds say otherwise. nah, you can't expect an honest opinion here, all are just based on bias opinion, and that makes the fight more interesting as we have fans from both sides willing to defend their fighter's chance in the fight.

And that's why we are here in the community, we have different point of view specially as boxing fans. We can agree or disagree against each other, but at the end of the day, respect must be follow and we are the winners as we are going to see another exciting fight involving Inoue and Donaire.

Donaire was the underdog on the Ouballi fight x3 or x4 if I'm not mistaken, but he proved his doubters by knocking out Nordine.


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July 05, 2021, 02:32:45 AM
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I think Inoue will be the undisputed champion if the fight ever happens. He's young and still undefeated, and he will reign in the bantam class for a long time if he stays in bantam. Anyway, Donaire isn't getting any younger, and judging from their 1st fight, his gas may be last shorter than 9th round. His winning scenario is only if he can KO Inoue in early-mid rounds. That said, I'd put my money on Inoue.

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