Inoue vs Donaire II discussion

[cabron]

I don't think that Donaire will give Casimero fight in the future. He already said that he didn't want to give him a big pay check. Unless they are forced by the governing body to have a fight.

He should not, we all know Donaire's kind of sportsmanship nobody can question his reputation, all the fighters he fought have huge respect for him whether he lose or win the fight, Casimero is not doing research, he likes to disrespect everybody, this guy should be taught a lesson, and I like Inoue to teach him a lesson, a hard lesson so he will stop being arrogant.

Casimero looks scary to boxing writers said because Rigondeaux and Inoue say no to him. Since Casimero disrespect Donaire, shouldn't he just teach Casimero on the ring and beat him to death instead?

It's actually unbecoming of a champion just cancel a fight all because of a thrash talk, the trash talks had been around for a long time, its not a good reason to cancel a fight. Mayorga touches the ass of Mosley's wife while they are up for the weighing-in. And then Mosley knocks Mayorga out, that's the way to teach a disrespectful boxer, not quit.  Casimero is calling Rigondeaux back again according to the blog.  

[peter0425]

Since Donaire vs Casimero fight is already off, and we heard a lot of rumors that Donaire will be fighting Inou.

What can you say about the rematch, will Donaire be able to avenge his loss and win the fight, or we will see the same result in their first fight.

Nonito Donaire - current holder of WBC World Bantam Title
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/48243

Naoya Inoue- Current holder of WBA Super Bantam Title/IBF world Bantam Title.
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/628407

Nonito Donaire has no match for Inoue and lets accept that fact, His power is not enough to beat Inoue

We already see the first bout and how much burden did Donaire take , but of course He will keep trying as long as he has a chance before his retirement soon.

[Kong Hey Pakboy]

Nonito Donaire has no match for Inoue and lets accept that fact, His power is not enough to beat Inoue

We already see the first bout and how much burden did Donaire take , but of course He will keep trying as long as he has a chance before his retirement soon.

We will never be sure until this finally happens, remember that Donaire has the experience that might be the detrimental thing that will decide the fight against Inoue, although I believe that Inoue has what it takes, I think that if you aren't betting, we better just watch and see what happens next.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Since Donaire vs Casimero fight is already off, and we heard a lot of rumors that Donaire will be fighting Inou.

What can you say about the rematch, will Donaire be able to avenge his loss and win the fight, or we will see the same result in their first fight.

Nonito Donaire - current holder of WBC World Bantam Title
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/48243

Naoya Inoue- Current holder of WBA Super Bantam Title/IBF world Bantam Title.
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/628407

Nonito Donaire has no match for Inoue and lets accept that fact, His power is not enough to beat Inoue

We already see the first bout and how much burden did Donaire take , but of course He will keep trying as long as he has a chance before his retirement soon.

Donaire has the power in their first match, it's that that Inoue has a good chin. He broke Inoue's orbital bone, causing him to be operate. But after that, no one has touches Inoue again. So if they face each other, maybe Donaire's left hook will do more damage this time. Inoue are going to protect his eye because he knows that Donaire has the power to broke it again. He will be cautious and maybe that's what Donaire needed, if Inoue became hesitant and afraid to go toe to toe because he has face the power of Donaire in their first match.

[YuginKadoya]

This starts with the social media clashing of Nonito Donaire and John Reil Casimero that they will have a match on who's going to face Naoya Inoue, but sad to say that Donaire VS Casimero will not continue because Naoya Inoue wants to face first the Phillippine Flash Nonito Donaire first than to continue his fight with John Reil Casimero, but I think after this fight with Donaire, Inoue will then face next Casimero, to continue their canceled fight.

for this Donaire VS Inoue rematch, I will bet for Nonito Donaire to win I have seen the change of pace on Donaire's style and that fight with Nordine Oubaali had proved despite his age had changed a lot that he surely has what it takes to win against Naoya Inoue, and to show support for my fellow Filipino.

[coin-investor]

for this Donaire VS Inoue rematch, I will bet for Nonito Donaire to win I have seen the change of pace on Donaire's style and that fight with Nordine Oubaali had proved despite his age had changed a lot that he surely has what it takes to win against Naoya Inoue, and to show support for my fellow Filipino.

We cannot compare Oubaali to Inoue, Inoue is faster stronger than Oubaali, honestly, Donaire's chances are slim but we never know Inoue may look invincible but Donaire's team will look for flaws and exploit it, let's see how it goes if Donaire wins here, expect a third rematch here.

[YuginKadoya]

for this Donaire VS Inoue rematch, I will bet for Nonito Donaire to win I have seen the change of pace on Donaire's style and that fight with Nordine Oubaali had proved despite his age had changed a lot that he surely has what it takes to win against Naoya Inoue, and to show support for my fellow Filipino.

We cannot compare Oubaali to Inoue, Inoue is faster stronger than Oubaali, honestly, Donaire's chances are slim but we never know Inoue may look invincible but Donaire's team will look for flaws and exploit it, let's see how it goes if Donaire wins here, expect a third rematch here.

We can not compare Inoue with Oubaali because they are surely two different fighters with two different styles, and Naoya Inoue is surely a world-class fighter his body shots is really powerful and devastating when it hits, it can surely stun his opponent, Speed, and Power that is Naoya Inoue, however, I think Nonito Donaire surely experience this sensation and the fight with Inoue has realized what he's going to do If you look at their first fight you can see that Donaire hang on and even withstands Naoya Inoue's punches and I think Naoya Inoue also had a hard time-fighting Donaire that is what I think and sometimes to beat your opponent you got to experience him first before getting a conclusion on what to do, I think Donaire will have his revenge.

[Sanitough]

for this Donaire VS Inoue rematch, I will bet for Nonito Donaire to win I have seen the change of pace on Donaire's style and that fight with Nordine Oubaali had proved despite his age had changed a lot that he surely has what it takes to win against Naoya Inoue, and to show support for my fellow Filipino.

We cannot compare Oubaali to Inoue, Inoue is faster stronger than Oubaali, honestly, Donaire's chances are slim but we never know Inoue may look invincible but Donaire's team will look for flaws and exploit it, let's see how it goes if Donaire wins here, expect a third rematch here.

We can not compare Inoue with Oubaali because they are surely two different fighters with two different styles, and Naoya Inoue is surely a world-class fighter his body shots is really powerful and devastating when it hits, it can surely stun his opponent, Speed, and Power that is Naoya Inoue, however, I think Nonito Donaire surely experience this sensation and the fight with Inoue has realized what he's going to do If you look at their first fight you can see that Donaire hang on and even withstands Naoya Inoue's punches and I think Naoya Inoue also had a hard time-fighting Donaire that is what I think and sometimes to beat your opponent you got to experience him first before getting a conclusion on what to do, I think Donaire will have his revenge.

We all saw the first fight and its clear domination by Inoue, however, that domination can be said that he is still fighting the hardest fight of his career as a boxer as he was injured in that fight. Donaire is also a champion, Inoue cannot underestimate Donaire, so if they are into the rematch, Inoue should train harder.

What I observed about Inoue is that he is fast but he lacks head movement, that's why he got hit in the face with some good counter by Donaire, however, Inoue is also strong, he always come back and hit donaire with some pair of heavy shots as well.

[Russlenat]

What I observed about Inoue is that he is fast but he lacks head movement, that's why he got hit in the face with some good counter by Donaire, however, Inoue is also strong, he always come back and hit donaire with some pair of heavy shots as well.

Inoue relies on his power that's why he is aggressive, but with the experience against Donaire, I guess they will improve his style and the head movement will also be improved. Inoue may be as powerful as Pacquiao, but he is not a complete boxer yet, so he still needs to improve, however, on his division which is the bantam weight, it's very clear that he is the king, especially if he beats Donaire again and take his belt in a unification fight.

[Quidat]

What I observed about Inoue is that he is fast but he lacks head movement, that's why he got hit in the face with some good counter by Donaire, however, Inoue is also strong, he always come back and hit donaire with some pair of heavy shots as well.

Inoue relies on his power that's why he is aggressive, but with the experience against Donaire, I guess they will improve his style and the head movement will also be improved. Inoue may be as powerful as Pacquiao, but he is not a complete boxer yet, so he still needs to improve, however, on his division which is the bantam weight, it's very clear that he is the king, especially if he beats Donaire again and take his belt in a unification fight.

He's still young and its normal that he would really be gaining more experience as he moved forward but looking into stats then this kid isnt something ordinary. Power is there and gradually as he fought boxers ahead
his technical skills do become much more better and you can see it on that recent fight against dasmarinas.
When this boy do gain sufficient experience then this would even more become an unbeatable monster.Not to underestimate Donaire but age is one of factors too that do affect
performance.
Lets see if they do make out some adjustments that they had experienced on last fight and might able to make out some upset on here.

[tippytoes]

What I observed about Inoue is that he is fast but he lacks head movement, that's why he got hit in the face with some good counter by Donaire, however, Inoue is also strong, he always come back and hit donaire with some pair of heavy shots as well.

Inoue relies on his power that's why he is aggressive, but with the experience against Donaire, I guess they will improve his style and the head movement will also be improved. Inoue may be as powerful as Pacquiao, but he is not a complete boxer yet, so he still needs to improve, however, on his division which is the bantam weight, it's very clear that he is the king, especially if he beats Donaire again and take his belt in a unification fight.

He's still young and its normal that he would really be gaining more experience as he moved forward but looking into stats then this kid isnt something ordinary. Power is there and gradually as he fought boxers ahead
his technical skills do become much more better and you can see it on that recent fight against dasmarinas.
When this boy do gain sufficient experience then this would even more become an unbeatable monster.Not to underestimate Donaire but age is one of factors too that do affect
performance.
Lets see if they do make out some adjustments that they had experienced on last fight and might able to make out some upset on here.

For sure, they will make adjustments with their techniques here. As they pretty know each other by now when it comes to the ring. They need to alter their strategies and we will see that if indeed this fight will soon happen. As both are relatively fresh with their previous fights, they can easily go back to their training routine. But in terms of odds, I am certain, bookies will favor Inoue here over Donaire.

[Vaculin]

For sure, they will make adjustments with their techniques here. As they pretty know each other by now when it comes to the ring. They need to alter their strategies and we will see that if indeed this fight will soon happen. As both are relatively fresh with their previous fights, they can easily go back to their training routine. But in terms of odds, I am certain, bookies will favor Inoue here over Donaire.

That's expected, and we will see a major adjustment in that fight. Inoue will adjust not to get hurt by the counter of Donaire, while Donaire will try to end this fight early as that's his only chance to win, otherwise, he will lose his stamina to a younger champion. Inoue's jab is very effective, Donaire could not counter him easily because of that, Inoue should stick with that while continue to be aggressive.

[Dave1]

For sure, they will make adjustments with their techniques here. As they pretty know each other by now when it comes to the ring. They need to alter their strategies and we will see that if indeed this fight will soon happen. As both are relatively fresh with their previous fights, they can easily go back to their training routine. But in terms of odds, I am certain, bookies will favor Inoue here over Donaire.

That's expected, and we will see a major adjustment in that fight. Inoue will adjust not to get hurt by the counter of Donaire, while Donaire will try to end this fight early as that's his only chance to win, otherwise, he will lose his stamina to a younger champion. Inoue's jab is very effective, Donaire could not counter him easily because of that, Inoue should stick with that while continue to be aggressive.

Donaire's jab is also good in my opinion, the problem is that Inoue is so much faster than him, that's why he was beaten to it. And if he wanted to counter, he need to have a perfect timing, and usually that's what happen in the first fight. But as you have said, as the fight gets longer, Donaire's chances are getting thinner. He needs to get up and shoot for his left hook early so that Inoue will be on the defensive and can't get this jab easily.

[Hypnosis00]

For sure, they will make adjustments with their techniques here. As they pretty know each other by now when it comes to the ring. They need to alter their strategies and we will see that if indeed this fight will soon happen. As both are relatively fresh with their previous fights, they can easily go back to their training routine. But in terms of odds, I am certain, bookies will favor Inoue here over Donaire.

That's expected, and we will see a major adjustment in that fight. Inoue will adjust not to get hurt by the counter of Donaire, while Donaire will try to end this fight early as that's his only chance to win, otherwise, he will lose his stamina to a younger champion. Inoue's jab is very effective, Donaire could not counter him easily because of that, Inoue should stick with that while continue to be aggressive.

Donaire's jab is also good in my opinion, the problem is that Inoue is so much faster than him, that's why he was beaten to it. And if he wanted to counter, he need to have a perfect timing, and usually that's what happen in the first fight. But as you have said, as the fight gets longer, Donaire's chances are getting thinner. He needs to get up and shoot for his left hook early so that Inoue will be on the defensive and can't get this jab easily.

I support our Filipino boxers but I just don't see Donaire winning against a young champion Inoue. We have seen enough in their fight before, and it was Inoue who completely dominates the fight, I think it's better if he will fight Casimero or Rigo, he would still get a belt if he wins.

For the record, Inoue and Rigo beat Donaire already, so it's only Casimero whom he hasn't fought yet, it's just unfortunate that the fight did not push through.

[Vaculin]

For sure, they will make adjustments with their techniques here. As they pretty know each other by now when it comes to the ring. They need to alter their strategies and we will see that if indeed this fight will soon happen. As both are relatively fresh with their previous fights, they can easily go back to their training routine. But in terms of odds, I am certain, bookies will favor Inoue here over Donaire.

That's expected, and we will see a major adjustment in that fight. Inoue will adjust not to get hurt by the counter of Donaire, while Donaire will try to end this fight early as that's his only chance to win, otherwise, he will lose his stamina to a younger champion. Inoue's jab is very effective, Donaire could not counter him easily because of that, Inoue should stick with that while continue to be aggressive.

Donaire's jab is also good in my opinion, the problem is that Inoue is so much faster than him, that's why he was beaten to it. And if he wanted to counter, he need to have a perfect timing, and usually that's what happen in the first fight. But as you have said, as the fight gets longer, Donaire's chances are getting thinner. He needs to get up and shoot for his left hook early so that Inoue will be on the defensive and can't get this jab easily.

I support our Filipino boxers but I just don't see Donaire winning against a young champion Inoue. We have seen enough in their fight before, and it was Inoue who completely dominates the fight, I think it's better if he will fight Casimero or Rigo, he would still get a belt if he wins.

Same thoughts here, I would admit I bet on Donaire on their first fight he Donaire was an underdog, but now that I saw them fight already, I would already change my bet to Inoue as he is the better fighter and I have never seen in the record of Donaire that he had a rematch on a certain fighter and won on the rematch.

For the record, Inoue and Rigo beat Donaire already, so it's only Casimero whom he hasn't fought yet, it's just unfortunate that the fight did not push through.

We can check all the records of Donaire in https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/48243

Loss to Naoya Inoue via UD
Loss to Carl Frampton via UD
Loss to Jessie Magdaleno via UD
Loss to Nicholas Walters via TKO
Loss to Guillermo Rigondeaux* via UD.

As we can see, most of the loses are via Unanimous decision, if it will go to the scorecard, most likely Donaire would loss again.

[Fredomago]

Donaire's jab is also good in my opinion, the problem is that Inoue is so much faster than him, that's why he was beaten to it. And if he wanted to counter, he need to have a perfect timing, and usually that's what happen in the first fight. But as you have said, as the fight gets longer, Donaire's chances are getting thinner. He needs to get up and shoot for his left hook early so that Inoue will be on the defensive and can't get this jab easily.

Donaire needs to think of better ways unlike their first match where he throw lots of punch and even he convert some Inoue just take it and not being alarmed, the only way he can beat Inoue is for him to take a lucky combo with strength on it and not just a let go punch.

We can't say the chance but since Inoue still the favorite here, Donaire really needs to work more to find the right strategy.

Rematch might have  different outcome but  hopefully it's more entertaining than the last fight.

[stomachgrowls]

Donaire's jab is also good in my opinion, the problem is that Inoue is so much faster than him, that's why he was beaten to it. And if he wanted to counter, he need to have a perfect timing, and usually that's what happen in the first fight. But as you have said, as the fight gets longer, Donaire's chances are getting thinner. He needs to get up and shoot for his left hook early so that Inoue will be on the defensive and can't get this jab easily.

Donaire needs to think of better ways unlike their first match where he throw lots of punch and even he convert some Inoue just take it and not being alarmed, the only way he can beat Inoue is for him to take a lucky combo with strength on it and not just a let go punch.

We can't say the chance but since Inoue still the favorite here, Donaire really needs to work more to find the right strategy.

Rematch might have  different outcome but  hopefully it's more entertaining than the last fight.

Good counter with precise timing will be the key and its true that Donaire had thrown lots of punches but only a few do really land out successfully which is really waste of stamina.

If you do try to look at on Inoue where punches do have higher percentage of landed hits plus the power or impact then its no doubt that it could really knocked down opponents.

I dont have any problems with Donaire in terms of experience but he should really need to speed up a bit or enhance his footwork and would focus a bit more on counter punching
which is he is known for.

"The Flash" shouldnt really be just for show.

[Sanitough]

Donaire's jab is also good in my opinion, the problem is that Inoue is so much faster than him, that's why he was beaten to it. And if he wanted to counter, he need to have a perfect timing, and usually that's what happen in the first fight. But as you have said, as the fight gets longer, Donaire's chances are getting thinner. He needs to get up and shoot for his left hook early so that Inoue will be on the defensive and can't get this jab easily.

Donaire needs to think of better ways unlike their first match where he throw lots of punch and even he convert some Inoue just take it and not being alarmed, the only way he can beat Inoue is for him to take a lucky combo with strength on it and not just a let go punch.

We can't say the chance but since Inoue still the favorite here, Donaire really needs to work more to find the right strategy.

Rematch might have  different outcome but  hopefully it's more entertaining than the last fight.

Good counter with precise timing will be the key and its true that Donaire had thrown lots of punches but only a few do really land out successfully which is really waste of stamina.

If you do try to look at on Inoue where punches do have higher percentage of landed hits plus the power or impact then its no doubt that it could really knocked down opponents.

I dont have any problems with Donaire in terms of experience but he should really need to speed up a bit or enhance his footwork and would focus a bit more on counter punching
which is he is known for.

Donaire showed who really is based on his style, and since he is not really an undefeated fighter, we can't expect that he will win against every opponent, Inoue is just great,  he has not experienced a loss up to now and he is a disciplined boxer who has a great coach in his corner, it's hard to beat this man and Donaire cannot beat him in the rematch.

"The Flash" shouldnt really be just for show.

Really not for a show as any of his fight is an exciting fight as long as his opponent is ready to engage.

[bisdak40]

Donaire's jab is also good in my opinion, the problem is that Inoue is so much faster than him, that's why he was beaten to it. And if he wanted to counter, he need to have a perfect timing, and usually that's what happen in the first fight. But as you have said, as the fight gets longer, Donaire's chances are getting thinner. He needs to get up and shoot for his left hook early so that Inoue will be on the defensive and can't get this jab easily.

Donaire needs to think of better ways unlike their first match where he throw lots of punch and even he convert some Inoue just take it and not being alarmed, the only way he can beat Inoue is for him to take a lucky combo with strength on it and not just a let go punch.

We can't say the chance but since Inoue still the favorite here, Donaire really needs to work more to find the right strategy.

Rematch might have  different outcome but  hopefully it's more entertaining than the last fight.

Good counter with precise timing will be the key and its true that Donaire had thrown lots of punches but only a few do really land out successfully which is really waste of stamina.

If you do try to look at on Inoue where punches do have higher percentage of landed hits plus the power or impact then its no doubt that it could really knocked down opponents.

I dont have any problems with Donaire in terms of experience but he should really need to speed up a bit or enhance his footwork and would focus a bit more on counter punching
which is he is known for.

"The Flash" shouldnt really be just for show.

Even if Donaire could catch Inoue with his patented left hook, I don't think he could knock out the Monster as the latter has proven that he don't have a glass chin as shown in their first fight plus the fact that he seldom hit Inoue on that fight.

I agree that he needs to work out more on his footwork and counter punching but at this stage of his career, I don't think it would change as it wouldn't change overnight.

I'm just thinking that this would be the retirement fight for Donaire because of age and he is not Manny Pacquiao that even if old, many fans are eager to see him fight.

[Ryker1]

^[snip]
Donaire showed who really is based on his style, and since he is not really an undefeated fighter, we can't expect that he will win against every opponent, Inoue is just great,  he has not experienced a loss up to now and he is a disciplined boxer who has a great coach in his corner, it's hard to beat this man and Donaire cannot beat him in the rematch.

Well, let us see when the fight will come because if you are going to ask me, --I am still on the side of Donaire even if his opponent is Inoue.
But as a matter of fact and I admit this, both fighters are aggressive and technically predicting who will win based on the previous record, Inoue seems to have a good record than Donaire, but the gap is not that big that Donaire is in the underdog.
However, so far I don't see any schedule for both of them, it could be there is a match and it could be not.