Inoue vs Donaire II discussion

[goinmerry]

while Casimero is still fresh , aging 31 while Nonito is 38 ? i will surely bet on John Riel in this fight .

We should not include the age here. Try to watch how Nonito gives heavy damage to the top 1 Inoue, which is also a young boxer, in their finals matchup. It was the first time in Inoue's career to be sent to the hospital right after the fight that's why a rematch is possible to settle it all.

Casimero might have an advantage over Donaire but it doesn't mean a sure win. I don't want to compare the Rigo vs Casimero to Rigo vs Donaire. They should clash no matter what before facing Inoue.

[smyslov]

Casimero might have an advantage over Donaire but it doesn't mean a sure win. I don't want to compare the Rigo vs Casimero to Rigo vs Donaire. They should clash no matter what before facing Inoue.

So far there's no official announcement of the fight everything is just speculation but Inoue already announce his intention because of the disrespectful words coming out from Casimero, whoever Inoue fought it's going to be a must watch because Inoue is the most exciting of this generation, he could become the next Manny Pacquiao.

[Russlenat]

Casimero might have an advantage over Donaire but it doesn't mean a sure win. I don't want to compare the Rigo vs Casimero to Rigo vs Donaire. They should clash no matter what before facing Inoue.

So far there's no official announcement of the fight everything is just speculation but Inoue already announce his intention because of the disrespectful words coming out from Casimero, whoever Inoue fought it's going to be a must watch because Inoue is the most exciting of this generation, he could become the next Manny Pacquiao.

I wonder if it will still be exciting if he will fight Rigondeux. 

Inoue is a great fighter, but he is more effective if an opponent will try to fight toe to toe against him or a slow fighter, and Casimero and Donaire's style would really fit Inoue's style as they don't run, they would want to fight toe to toe and that's why people are hoping the fight will happen to witness an entertaining fight.

[Fredomago]

We should not include the age here. Try to watch how Nonito gives heavy damage to the top 1 Inoue, which is also a young boxer, in their finals matchup. It was the first time in Inoue's career to be sent to the hospital right after the fight that's why a rematch is possible to settle it all.

Casimero might have an advantage over Donaire but it doesn't mean a sure win. I don't want to compare the Rigo vs Casimero to Rigo vs Donaire. They should clash no matter what before facing Inoue.

If this two Pinoy fighters will meet before facing Inoue, for sure we will see actions but the crowd mostly from our country and that's why promoters are not really interested since the pandemic still hitting the sports industry, they are forcing to take the fight between this two against Inoue as this super star already gained huge audiences.

But, I go with Casimero since Inoue is already annoyed with his trash talks and the fight may take place inside Inoue's homeland where pressures from the fans will be added to Casimero; he needed to walk with the talk.

Still need to wait till Arum agrees and start negotiating to which camp they bring the fight.

[Ziskinberg]

We should not include the age here. Try to watch how Nonito gives heavy damage to the top 1 Inoue, which is also a young boxer, in their finals matchup. It was the first time in Inoue's career to be sent to the hospital right after the fight that's why a rematch is possible to settle it all.

Casimero might have an advantage over Donaire but it doesn't mean a sure win. I don't want to compare the Rigo vs Casimero to Rigo vs Donaire. They should clash no matter what before facing Inoue.

If this two Pinoy fighters will meet before facing Inoue, for sure we will see actions but the crowd mostly from our country and that's why promoters are not really interested since the pandemic still hitting the sports industry, they are forcing to take the fight between this two against Inoue as this super star already gained huge audiences.

But, I go with Casimero since Inoue is already annoyed with his trash talks and the fight may take place inside Inoue's homeland where pressures from the fans will be added to Casimero; he needed to walk with the talk.

Still need to wait till Arum agrees and start negotiating to which camp they bring the fight.

Arum has agreed once, so I think it will not be hard for him to agree on the 2nd time as Casimero is now more popular compared to the last time this fight was scheduled. Casimero is just doing his job as a boxer, selling himself to get a big fight and it seems successful in getting the attention of Inoue.

[Yamifoud]

We should not include the age here. Try to watch how Nonito gives heavy damage to the top 1 Inoue, which is also a young boxer, in their finals matchup. It was the first time in Inoue's career to be sent to the hospital right after the fight that's why a rematch is possible to settle it all.

Casimero might have an advantage over Donaire but it doesn't mean a sure win. I don't want to compare the Rigo vs Casimero to Rigo vs Donaire. They should clash no matter what before facing Inoue.

If this two Pinoy fighters will meet before facing Inoue, for sure we will see actions but the crowd mostly from our country and that's why promoters are not really interested since the pandemic still hitting the sports industry, they are forcing to take the fight between this two against Inoue as this super star already gained huge audiences.

But, I go with Casimero since Inoue is already annoyed with his trash talks and the fight may take place inside Inoue's homeland where pressures from the fans will be added to Casimero; he needed to walk with the talk.

Still need to wait till Arum agrees and start negotiating to which camp they bring the fight.

Arum has agreed once, so I think it will not be hard for him to agree on the 2nd time as Casimero is now more popular compared to the last time this fight was scheduled. Casimero is just doing his job as a boxer, selling himself to get a big fight and it seems successful in getting the attention of Inoue.

He agreed once but maybe he realized that Inoue might have a problem facing Casimero so instead of postponing the fight, it resulted in a cancelled fight. I'm not sure how reliable this news outlet is, but according to the link below, the fight will be in the 1st quarter of 2022.

https://businessmirror.com.ph/2020/11/02/inoue-casimero-unification-bout-eyed-in-1st-quarter-of-2021-arum/

TOP Rank Head Bob Arum said the anticipated bout between World Boxing Organization bantamweight John Riel Casimero and unified world bantamweight titleholder Naoya Inoue of Japan could be held in February or March next year.

[Taskford]

We should not include the age here. Try to watch how Nonito gives heavy damage to the top 1 Inoue, which is also a young boxer, in their finals matchup. It was the first time in Inoue's career to be sent to the hospital right after the fight that's why a rematch is possible to settle it all.

Casimero might have an advantage over Donaire but it doesn't mean a sure win. I don't want to compare the Rigo vs Casimero to Rigo vs Donaire. They should clash no matter what before facing Inoue.

If this two Pinoy fighters will meet before facing Inoue, for sure we will see actions but the crowd mostly from our country and that's why promoters are not really interested since the pandemic still hitting the sports industry, they are forcing to take the fight between this two against Inoue as this super star already gained huge audiences.

But, I go with Casimero since Inoue is already annoyed with his trash talks and the fight may take place inside Inoue's homeland where pressures from the fans will be added to Casimero; he needed to walk with the talk.

Still need to wait till Arum agrees and start negotiating to which camp they bring the fight.

Arum has agreed once, so I think it will not be hard for him to agree on the 2nd time as Casimero is now more popular compared to the last time this fight was scheduled. Casimero is just doing his job as a boxer, selling himself to get a big fight and it seems successful in getting the attention of Inoue.

He agreed once but maybe he realized that Inoue might have a problem facing Casimero so instead of postponing the fight, it resulted in a cancelled fight. I'm not sure how reliable this news outlet is, but according to the link below, the fight will be in the 1st quarter of 2022.

https://businessmirror.com.ph/2020/11/02/inoue-casimero-unification-bout-eyed-in-1st-quarter-of-2021-arum/

TOP Rank Head Bob Arum said the anticipated bout between World Boxing Organization bantamweight John Riel Casimero and unified world bantamweight titleholder Naoya Inoue of Japan could be held in February or March next year.

I though the fight  will happen on 4th quarter of this year as Casimero stated about the date of this fight but since the promoter put a schedule on this event then provably this is the last mark and we can see this intense fight of the year as the feud between this fighter became more bigger as they are throwing some nasty words on twitter. But lets not hope since there no contract has been signed yet but as Inoue stated he want to fight Casimero while he still have belt since if Casimero lose to Donaire then maybe he will get nothing fighting Casimero.

[freedomgo]

......but as Inoue stated he want to fight Casimero while he still have belt since if Casimero lose to Donaire then maybe he will get nothing fighting Casimero.

Unfortunately, he is not the one who makes the final decision, he is under contract with Top Rank and the final decision will be from Bob Arum. Let's just hope that Arum is serious about saying that he would make this fight happen next year, so I think there will be no this year.

[Yaunfitda]

@Taskford - the more they delayed the fight, I think it will be good to add fuel to the hype. As as Casimero open his mouth and attack Inoue, the more the fans are going to anticipated the fight so for me, it's better for next year.

@freedomgo - I agree, Bob and Top Rank will decide if they wanted to have Inoue fight Casimero or not. So everything is not final yet even though Bob issued a verbal statement.

[robelneo]

......but as Inoue stated he want to fight Casimero while he still have belt since if Casimero lose to Donaire then maybe he will get nothing fighting Casimero.

Unfortunately, he is not the one who makes the final decision, he is under contract with Top Rank and the final decision will be from Bob Arum. Let's just hope that Arum is serious about saying that he would make this fight happen next year, so I think there will be no this year.

This has to be stopped the best should fight the best, promoters are making the boxing industry a boring sport, they pick weak opponents for their ward so they can sustain the boxer's reputation and popularity, we need boxers like Canelo and Pacquiao who gives to fans what they want, promoters are only after money Inoue will be ruin if he only gets weak opponents and he will be disrespected because people thought he is ducking a big fight.

[Viscore]

@freedomgo - I agree, Bob and Top Rank will decide if they wanted to have Inoue fight Casimero or not. So everything is not final yet even though Bob issued a verbal statement.

Bob just trying to measure the hype, but he always has a good plan of his cash cow and who's a fighter he thinks Inoue could easily beat. Every time Inoue fights, he makes money from it, so if Inoue loses, that would be a lost investment as the interest of Inoue will decrease while Casimero will become popoular. It's still a game of money, promoters nowadays are not so into big fights, but just to preserve the popularity of their fighters.

[molsewid]

We should not include the age here. Try to watch how Nonito gives heavy damage to the top 1 Inoue, which is also a young boxer, in their finals matchup. It was the first time in Inoue's career to be sent to the hospital right after the fight that's why a rematch is possible to settle it all.

Casimero might have an advantage over Donaire but it doesn't mean a sure win. I don't want to compare the Rigo vs Casimero to Rigo vs Donaire. They should clash no matter what before facing Inoue.

It can't be avoided that once we critic a certain boxer the age difference will surely be included on the list. I mean, the age of a boxer plays a vital role also on the skill set of a boxer especially at this aspect a bettor could speculate which boxer speed and strength advances that will be their guidelines in placing a bet. But I think either a rematch between Donaire vs Casimero, or is it Casimero vs. Inoue will be surely an exciting fight to watch for.

[Hamphser]

We should not include the age here. Try to watch how Nonito gives heavy damage to the top 1 Inoue, which is also a young boxer, in their finals matchup. It was the first time in Inoue's career to be sent to the hospital right after the fight that's why a rematch is possible to settle it all.

Casimero might have an advantage over Donaire but it doesn't mean a sure win. I don't want to compare the Rigo vs Casimero to Rigo vs Donaire. They should clash no matter what before facing Inoue.

It can't be avoided that once we critic a certain boxer the age difference will surely be included on the list. I mean, the age of a boxer plays a vital role also on the skill set of a boxer especially at this aspect a bettor could speculate which boxer speed and strength advances that will be their guidelines in placing a bet. But I think either a rematch between Donaire vs Casimero, or is it Casimero vs. Inoue will be surely an exciting fight to watch for.

True, its just too impossible that you wont consider out age when it comes to boxer fight performance because this is a great factor which do really affect because body isnt always on tip-top shape
as the years passing or simply when a boxer is getting older.

Cant really deny too that Donaire did really make some serious damage on Inoue as you can see in later rounds that he had really some blood on his face and not that usual pretty boy face
when facing up other opponents which does simply shows on how hard Nonito those punches are.

[Fatunad]

We should not include the age here. Try to watch how Nonito gives heavy damage to the top 1 Inoue, which is also a young boxer, in their finals matchup. It was the first time in Inoue's career to be sent to the hospital right after the fight that's why a rematch is possible to settle it all.

Casimero might have an advantage over Donaire but it doesn't mean a sure win. I don't want to compare the Rigo vs Casimero to Rigo vs Donaire. They should clash no matter what before facing Inoue.

It can't be avoided that once we critic a certain boxer the age difference will surely be included on the list. I mean, the age of a boxer plays a vital role also on the skill set of a boxer especially at this aspect a bettor could speculate which boxer speed and strength advances that will be their guidelines in placing a bet. But I think either a rematch between Donaire vs Casimero, or is it Casimero vs. Inoue will be surely an exciting fight to watch for.

True, its just too impossible that you wont consider out age when it comes to boxer fight performance because this is a great factor which do really affect because body isnt always on tip-top shape
as the years passing or simply when a boxer is getting older.

Cant really deny too that Donaire did really make some serious damage on Inoue as you can see in later rounds that he had really some blood on his face and not that usual pretty boy face
when facing up other opponents which does simply shows on how hard Nonito those punches are.

For power then Donaire isnt someone that you should underestimate off but i do agree that Inoue is a good technical fighter.He do knows on when to throw out punches on particular condition.
You can see Donaire to punch up in wide swings and heavy blows which undeniable but Inoue could throw some straight and penetrating heavy blows too which is more i can say
to be more accurate for landing up punches which i could say that he had really the edge but he should really be careful into those good counter punches.

[Pamadar]

For power then Donaire isnt someone that you should underestimate off but i do agree that Inoue is a good technical fighter.He do knows on when to throw out punches on particular condition.
You can see Donaire to punch up in wide swings and heavy blows which undeniable but Inoue could throw some straight and penetrating heavy blows too which is more i can say
to be more accurate for landing up punches which i could say that he had really the edge but he should really be careful into those good counter punches.

That the fight happened in which it was the comeback fight of Donaire,

But look what damages he made to Inoue and those solid punch that landed in Inoue face that's all been taken, though that time Donaire got short in stamina, and in the last few rounds we've seen that he's no longer moving that much. Inoue takes that advantage and starts throwing his own versions of solid punches. Inoue already understands how Donaire fought and he can review and master everything that he needs in case that he faces Donaire.

[Baofeng]

For power then Donaire isnt someone that you should underestimate off but i do agree that Inoue is a good technical fighter.He do knows on when to throw out punches on particular condition.
You can see Donaire to punch up in wide swings and heavy blows which undeniable but Inoue could throw some straight and penetrating heavy blows too which is more i can say
to be more accurate for landing up punches which i could say that he had really the edge but he should really be careful into those good counter punches.

That the fight happened in which it was the comeback fight of Donaire,

But look what damages he made to Inoue and those solid punch that landed in Inoue face that's all been taken, though that time Donaire got short in stamina, and in the last few rounds we've seen that he's no longer moving that much. Inoue takes that advantage and starts throwing his own versions of solid punches. Inoue already understands how Donaire fought and he can review and master everything that he needs in case that he faces Donaire.

Same as Donaire, he will adjust definitely and will work out things, specially the footwork that somewhat has been missing in the first fight because he is head hunting, not very successful strategy.

As he is getting older, not sure how he can improved his stamina, what he can is to retain his speed and timing because that will be the game changer here. If he caught Inoue early when he is still fresh and the power is still there with his checkered left hook, then the second fight might be in his favour but it's going to be very difficult for him.

[passwordnow]

I agree, Bob and Top Rank will decide if they wanted to have Inoue fight Casimero or not. So everything is not final yet even though Bob issued a verbal statement.

There's a news that it's likely that Inoue vs Casimero will happen by the end of this year. We don't know if that news is final and I agree, until there's an official statement then we have a guarantee that the other match will come instead of fighting against Donaire.
We've got some hope that the other match is likely to happen rather than this match.

[Reatim]

......but as Inoue stated he want to fight Casimero while he still have belt since if Casimero lose to Donaire then maybe he will get nothing fighting Casimero.

Unfortunately, he is not the one who makes the final decision, he is under contract with Top Rank and the final decision will be from Bob Arum. Let's just hope that Arum is serious about saying that he would make this fight happen next year, so I think there will be no this year.

definitely not this year as we have only 3 months for preparation in which not enough for the boxers to make their proper training and understanding about each others skills and abilities .

maybe middle of next year is the time depend on how the gamblers and fans response to their hyping now.
we already knew how boxing works , for the fight to take place there must be a market and income.

[lienfaye]

......but as Inoue stated he want to fight Casimero while he still have belt since if Casimero lose to Donaire then maybe he will get nothing fighting Casimero.

Unfortunately, he is not the one who makes the final decision, he is under contract with Top Rank and the final decision will be from Bob Arum. Let's just hope that Arum is serious about saying that he would make this fight happen next year, so I think there will be no this year.

definitely not this year as we have only 3 months for preparation in which not enough for the boxers to make their proper training and understanding about each others skills and abilities .

maybe middle of next year is the time depend on how the gamblers and fans response to their hyping now.
we already knew how boxing works , for the fight to take place there must be a market and income.

I agree they need time to condition themselves to prepare for the fight so its understandable if this fight that we anticipate wont happen this year. Although I want to see Donaire avenge his past defeat to Inoue, I still prefer Casimero to be the next in line because I believe they're perfect match, strong and confident to win.

[yazher]

I agree, Bob and Top Rank will decide if they wanted to have Inoue fight Casimero or not. So everything is not final yet even though Bob issued a verbal statement.

There's a news that it's likely that Inoue vs Casimero will happen by the end of this year. We don't know if that news is final and I agree, until there's an official statement then we have a guarantee that the other match will come instead of fighting against Donaire.
We've got some hope that the other match is likely to happen rather than this match.

I want to see Casimero fighting Inoue this year because of their current feud on social media and their market has insanely increased as well because of that. They both agree to fight as soon as possible but as we can see, money always matters because Inoue's promoter has the last call on this no matter how they want it to happen. I think they don't need to delay this fight anymore since the Japanese have taken lots of trash talks from the Pilipino. This shouldn't be like the Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight where they delayed it for years.