Inoue vs Donaire II discussion

[stadus]

The guys is literally using the social media to spark a match up against Inoue. He seems very desperate to get the fight.

He needs to make an effort to promote the fight as Inoue will not accept a paycheck lower than Casimero. I think it will be 60-40 or 70-30 since Inoue will be the reason for the big PPV sales. Pinoy PPV viewers aren't that much on that weight class and let's accept that Casimero is only hype here in the Philippines but Inoue is more recognized in the world.

Casimero is putting trash talks to Inoue to make the fight happen and if he will win, he can now demand a much more paycheck on every of his fight as he already claimed the top of his weight class.

Do we have a figure about the last fight of Inoue? I like to see how much the fight generated from PPV sales and how much Inoue made in that fight too. I think both fighters are the attraction now, especially Casimero who have a very effective strategy, his trash talk is just at a high level and fans likes to see that, and though Inoue (The monster) is the heavy favorite, there are still some people who believe that Casimero is a tough challenge for Inoue.

Not only a tough challenge but rather they do really believe that Casimero could beat up Inoue which i can say that this wont really be an easy thing considering on how strong Inoue is.

Lets not talk about Casimero as this thread do imply nor talks about Donaire but its unavoidable on not to mention since this fight is most likely to push through rather than on
having a rematch with Donaire.

For sure they would go on where the hype or interest is high because it does basically means that it is more on profits.

That's what the promoter would ensure, and at the same time they will also look at whether their fighter had a big chance of winning the fight so they can continue to use it as their milking cow, in this fight, it's the fight of the best vs the best, so it's a big risk for the promoter as well as one will lose and will not be able to get some big fights for a while after the fight, I'm thinking, maybe they will add some re-match clause in the contract just to ensure money is still generated in the 2nd fight regardless of the result of the fight.

[bL4nkcode]

The guys is literally using the social media to spark a match up against Inoue. He seems very desperate to get the fight.

Well, that's business, money and fame if he win after all, but that won't be an easy one. Inoue even overcome those powerful left of Donaire. Donaire even got taste of knockdown from that monster body punch of Inoue, but if casimero endures it, then it will be an interesting fight, or else he will eat his own words from trashtalking. ^^

[Kelvinid]

The guys is literally using the social media to spark a match up against Inoue. He seems very desperate to get the fight.

Well, that's business, money and fame if he win after all, but that won't be an easy one. Inoue even overcome those powerful left of Donaire. Donaire even got taste of knockdown from that monster body punch of Inoue, but if casimero endures it, then it will be an interesting fight, or else he will eat his own words from trashtalking. ^^

If there's a better fight then I don't think fans will still be interested in this one, we clearly saw what Inoue did with Donaire on their first encounter, so there's no reason for a rematch, but because Donaire is already a belt holder now, we will be able to see this fight sooner or later, but for now, Donaire can give this fight on Casimero while he keeps training and ensuring himself that he is ready to face the winner of the aforementioned fight.

[DoublerHunter]

The guys is literally using the social media to spark a match up against Inoue. He seems very desperate to get the fight.

Well, that's business, money and fame if he win after all, but that won't be an easy one. Inoue even overcome those powerful left of Donaire. Donaire even got taste of knockdown from that monster body punch of Inoue, but if casimero endures it, then it will be an interesting fight, or else he will eat his own words from trashtalking. ^^

^ I hate trashtalkers, most likely, those are fighters who are trashtalkers is weak, they do this for seeking attention only but if they are in the ring nothing will happen but at the same fight. I hope too, he will probably eat his words after seeing cannot able to resist the monster punch of Inoue.
But that is right, sometimes we think that the boxing sports industry now is a pure business nothing else, to have a more series of a rematch, sometimes a strong favor of odds will most likely be a looser at the end.

[TravelMug]

The guys is literally using the social media to spark a match up against Inoue. He seems very desperate to get the fight.

Well, that's business, money and fame if he win after all, but that won't be an easy one. Inoue even overcome those powerful left of Donaire. Donaire even got taste of knockdown from that monster body punch of Inoue, but if casimero endures it, then it will be an interesting fight, or else he will eat his own words from trashtalking. ^^

^ I hate trashtalkers, most likely, those are fighters who are trashtalkers is weak, they do this for seeking attention only but if they are in the ring nothing will happen but at the same fight. I hope too, he will probably eat his words after seeing cannot able to resist the monster punch of Inoue.
But that is right, sometimes we think that the boxing sports industry now is a pure business nothing else, to have a more series of a rematch, sometimes a strong favor of odds will most likely be a looser at the end.

And we love to see trash talkers getting knock out as well. I'm sure boxing fans remember Adrien Broner who talk trash and shit to Marcos Maidana, and look at what happened to their fight, he was an internet meme sensation after his lost, Lol.

We will see how tough Casimero if this fight. If Inoue touches him and he didn't backle, then good. But if his chin didn't hold then he can be knockout or at least taste the canvass and we will see his reaction.

[harizen]

If there's a better fight then I don't think fans will still be interested in this one, we clearly saw what Inoue did with Donaire on their first encounter, so there's no reason for a rematch,

If you see it clearly then you will say there should be a rematch. Try to watch it again. Inoue received lots of damage in their fight and the first time in his career despite Donaire is already aging. There will be no rematch if Inoue pulverized Donaire without any problem.

A rematch is necessary to finally settle who's the most dominant between them.

[tabas]

The guys is literally using the social media to spark a match up against Inoue. He seems very desperate to get the fight.

Well, that's business, money and fame if he win after all, but that won't be an easy one. Inoue even overcome those powerful left of Donaire. Donaire even got taste of knockdown from that monster body punch of Inoue, but if casimero endures it, then it will be an interesting fight, or else he will eat his own words from trashtalking. ^^

Yeah, I guess there's this feeling from Inoue that he has to knock Casimero down. But we'll see if there's a counter and how Casimero will endure it.
Since the match has been said that it will be against Inoue and Casimero, the fight with Donaire with these two might be the next on line once their match is done.

[Lanatsa]

The guys is literally using the social media to spark a match up against Inoue. He seems very desperate to get the fight.

Well, that's business, money and fame if he win after all, but that won't be an easy one. Inoue even overcome those powerful left of Donaire. Donaire even got taste of knockdown from that monster body punch of Inoue, but if casimero endures it, then it will be an interesting fight, or else he will eat his own words from trashtalking. ^^

Yeah, I guess there's this feeling from Inoue that he has to knock Casimero down. But we'll see if there's a counter and how Casimero will endure it.
Since the match has been said that it will be against Inoue and Casimero, the fight with Donaire with these two might be the next on line once their match is done.

Don't know if Donaire vs Inoue would push through after Casimero.It would still be depending on whose the winner on upcoming fight which one he would able to match on.

If Casimero do successfully beat up Inoue then for sure Donaire would be the next in line but still depending on promoters decision because they are the ones who would decide.

Im already excited for this upcoming fight which is most likely to happen.

[arwin100]

The guys is literally using the social media to spark a match up against Inoue. He seems very desperate to get the fight.

Well, that's business, money and fame if he win after all, but that won't be an easy one. Inoue even overcome those powerful left of Donaire. Donaire even got taste of knockdown from that monster body punch of Inoue, but if casimero endures it, then it will be an interesting fight, or else he will eat his own words from trashtalking. ^^

Yeah, I guess there's this feeling from Inoue that he has to knock Casimero down. But we'll see if there's a counter and how Casimero will endure it.
Since the match has been said that it will be against Inoue and Casimero, the fight with Donaire with these two might be the next on line once their match is done.

Don't know if Donaire vs Inoue would push through after Casimero.It would still be depending on whose the winner on upcoming fight which one he would able to match on.

If Casimero do successfully beat up Inoue then for sure Donaire would be the next in line but still depending on promoters decision because they are the ones who would decide.

Im already excited for this upcoming fight which is most likely to happen.

Although its good to watch the Donaire and Inoue part 2 match but what people want for now is to make the fight happen first between Casimero since as of now both fighters are having huge fued and throwing some shits on social media so they create hype and market that's why many people got more interested to watch since this could be interesting match as this one will dictate if Inoue can really clean up those great fighters on his same weight class.

I'm also excited to watch this fight so hopefully they can successfully seal this match.

[Kemarit]

The guys is literally using the social media to spark a match up against Inoue. He seems very desperate to get the fight.

Well, that's business, money and fame if he win after all, but that won't be an easy one. Inoue even overcome those powerful left of Donaire. Donaire even got taste of knockdown from that monster body punch of Inoue, but if casimero endures it, then it will be an interesting fight, or else he will eat his own words from trashtalking. ^^

If there's a better fight then I don't think fans will still be interested in this one, we clearly saw what Inoue did with Donaire on their first encounter, so there's no reason for a rematch, but because Donaire is already a belt holder now, we will be able to see this fight sooner or later, but for now, Donaire can give this fight on Casimero while he keeps training and ensuring himself that he is ready to face the winner of the aforementioned fight.

I disagree though, a Inoue vs Donaire is as much as fans wanted as Inoue vs Casimero.

Donaire is the only toughest fight to date for Inoue, did you know that he broke Inoue's orbital bone on that fight? So Donaire has still a good chance to upset Inoue.

For Casimero, he is using trash talk, and seems to be very effective as Inoue feels that it is getting personal and he needs to knock out Casimero.

[bbc.reporter]

Casimero is only trying to create his own clamor hehe. He is also deciding to be in the unconfirmed Lomachenko vs. Commey fight card on December 11 in New York city hehehe. However, I reckon after his poor fight versus Rigondeaux, he himself is beginning to speculate that the promoters will not choose him.  Also, Bob Arum mentioned that Inoue’s next fight will be in Japan.

He surely is.
The guys is literally using the social media to spark a match up against Inoue. He seems very desperate to get the fight.
I know he's very passionate about his profession, but he gradually came to the point of being so annoying.
He even said he could fight both Inoue and Donaire at the same time.
He has the talent and heart for boxing, I hope he gets to fight Inoue so we could see the result.

And look what we are seeing now, he's bringing this drama to favor himself,

Inoue's interest fighting him is clearing up, that annoying post from social media gather Inoue's camp to read it up and those loving fans of Inoue who seen those trash talks adding up to the pressure, Inoue is a warrior and if he's promoter, allow him to fight Casimero no doubt that he take him with no hesitation.

It's a good match up as both of them are more into action I mean a blow by blow counter punchers, seeing them throwing solid punches and absorbing how hard it is and how to throw much solid and try to knock your opponent's down.

Can't wait to witness that scene, it would bring more entertainment to all fans for sure.

Inoue and Bob Arum might also be very annoyed and might give the opportunity to Nonito Donaire who is the more exciting opponent after his knockout win to win the WBC bantamweight title versus Nordine Oubaali.

Do Inoue fans want to watch Casimero after promising a knockout on Rigondeaux in 3 rounds? However, do Inoue fans want to watch Donaire after Oubaali? Does Bob Arum want to promote a fight that Inoue fans want to watch? The answers are very clear.

[Botnake]

Casimero is only trying to create his own clamor hehe. He is also deciding to be in the unconfirmed Lomachenko vs. Commey fight card on December 11 in New York city hehehe. However, I reckon after his poor fight versus Rigondeaux, he himself is beginning to speculate that the promoters will not choose him.  Also, Bob Arum mentioned that Inoue’s next fight will be in Japan.

He surely is.
The guys is literally using the social media to spark a match up against Inoue. He seems very desperate to get the fight.
I know he's very passionate about his profession, but he gradually came to the point of being so annoying.
He even said he could fight both Inoue and Donaire at the same time.
He has the talent and heart for boxing, I hope he gets to fight Inoue so we could see the result.

And look what we are seeing now, he's bringing this drama to favor himself,

Inoue's interest fighting him is clearing up, that annoying post from social media gather Inoue's camp to read it up and those loving fans of Inoue who seen those trash talks adding up to the pressure, Inoue is a warrior and if he's promoter, allow him to fight Casimero no doubt that he take him with no hesitation.

It's a good match up as both of them are more into action I mean a blow by blow counter punchers, seeing them throwing solid punches and absorbing how hard it is and how to throw much solid and try to knock your opponent's down.

Can't wait to witness that scene, it would bring more entertainment to all fans for sure.

Inoue and Bob Arum might also be very annoyed and might give the opportunity to Nonito Donaire who is the more exciting opponent after his knockout win to win the WBC bantamweight title versus Nordine Oubaali.

Do Inoue fans want to watch Casimero after promising a knockout on Rigondeaux in 3 rounds? However, do Inoue fans want to watch Donaire after Oubaali? Does Bob Arum want to promote a fight that Inoue fans want to watch? The answers are very clear.

All I want to see is a fight between champions, and since Casimero, Inoue, and Donaire are champions, they can choose whom to fight and if we see a rematch between Inoue and Donaire, well, I think it's still a good one though Inoue will likely win again by Unanimous decision.

The most exciting fighter now IMO is Casimero, he likes to prove that his trash talk to Inoue could also hurt him in the ring.
So hoepuflly Arum will give way to the possibility of this fight.

[Natalim]

For Casimero, he is using trash talk, and seems to be very effective as Inoue feels that it is getting personal and he needs to knock out Casimero.

Obviously, he does some trash talk on Rigo and he was really trying to KO Rigo in the ring, unfortunately, the fight ended up a boring one, and Casimero has an excuse why he was not able ot KO Rigo because Rigo was running. Casimero is a tough man, he wants the best in his division that's why he challenges Inoue and I think I would go with him since he is the underdog although I think Inoue would win the fight.

Betting against myself is exactly what I'm doing.

[Fredomago]

Obviously, he does some trash talk on Rigo and he was really trying to KO Rigo in the ring, unfortunately, the fight ended up a boring one, and Casimero has an excuse why he was not able ot KO Rigo because Rigo was running. Casimero is a tough man, he wants the best in his division that's why he challenges Inoue and I think I would go with him since he is the underdog although I think Inoue would win the fight.

Betting against myself is exactly what I'm doing.

That's how gambling works underdog means a much better odd and with this fight, Inoue still has the favorite not just by bookies but also the fans who believe in him.

We can say that both Casimero and Inoue have their own reason in trying to beat one another, Casimero wants to prove that he can beat the monster and be the top on this division he wants to convince everyone that he deserve this fight and he will convert this to instant fame.

While, Inoue doesn't need nothing aside from shutting Casimero's mouth and forgets about those trash talks.

[passwordnow]

Isn't it an official announcement if the date came from the fighter himself? Maybe it's not yet official because there's no announcement yet from the organizers and management of both fighters. But if the fighter himself was the one to announce it, that only means that there's something that they're already cooking and probably because of his excitement, he slip due to his excitement to announce it.

Yeah, that gives us an idea that the negotiation is already happening now between two camps and Casimero is luckier than Donaire because he will get a chance to fight Inoue first and if he can make an upset, he could also choose not to give Donaire a chance to fight him. (sweet revenge)

Well, Casimero has been chosen because of what he did on social media and that's effective on him to take this match. What everyone stands right now is about the official announcement.
I guess that we'll be having that anytime soon when things have been settled within a month or two since this year is about to end and it came from Casimero that the match will happen by December.

[stadus]

Isn't it an official announcement if the date came from the fighter himself? Maybe it's not yet official because there's no announcement yet from the organizers and management of both fighters. But if the fighter himself was the one to announce it, that only means that there's something that they're already cooking and probably because of his excitement, he slip due to his excitement to announce it.

Yeah, that gives us an idea that the negotiation is already happening now between two camps and Casimero is luckier than Donaire because he will get a chance to fight Inoue first and if he can make an upset, he could also choose not to give Donaire a chance to fight him. (sweet revenge)

Well, Casimero has been chosen because of what he did on social media and that's effective on him to take this match. What everyone stands right now is about the official announcement.
I guess that we'll be having that anytime soon when things have been settled within a month or two since this year is about to end and it came from Casimero that the match will happen by December.

If the fans of Inoue did not react to Casimero's tirades, then we would not see this fight this month. Thanks to the fans also because they take it as their fight urging Inoue to fight and punish the trash-talking Casimero. I think the noise that he made is already enough to sell this fight, not only in Japan but for the other countries as they made their names popular due to the impressive past wins.

They will surely react because it's a big insult to their champion, they have a chance now to have a fighter like Manny Pacquiao and could bring some honor to their country. AFAIK, there's no boxer in Japan that is currently as successful as Inoue, he is rank number 2 in the pound for pound ranking, so this guy has a good future ahead of him, he just need to stop Casimero first so he can continue without doubts from the fans.

[Kasabus]

~snip~ .....he just need to stop Casimero first so he can continue without doubts from the fans.

That's probably what he tries to accomplish now, he said he will fight Casimero this year and Casimero announced a date that the fight will be this December 18, 2021, so let's wait for that time and there's enough time for the team to stay condition. I like that they are silent now, this only shows that they have made some agreement already though we did not see a signed contract yet.

maybe we will see some updated information here as the fight schedule is nearing.
https://champinon.info/schedule/inoue-vs-casimero/

For live broadcast, ESPN is covering this fight.

[Quidat]

Isn't it an official announcement if the date came from the fighter himself? Maybe it's not yet official because there's no announcement yet from the organizers and management of both fighters. But if the fighter himself was the one to announce it, that only means that there's something that they're already cooking and probably because of his excitement, he slip due to his excitement to announce it.

Yeah, that gives us an idea that the negotiation is already happening now between two camps and Casimero is luckier than Donaire because he will get a chance to fight Inoue first and if he can make an upset, he could also choose not to give Donaire a chance to fight him. (sweet revenge)

Well, Casimero has been chosen because of what he did on social media and that's effective on him to take this match. What everyone stands right now is about the official announcement.
I guess that we'll be having that anytime soon when things have been settled within a month or two since this year is about to end and it came from Casimero that the match will happen by December.

If the fans of Inoue did not react to Casimero's tirades, then we would not see this fight this month. Thanks to the fans also because they take it as their fight urging Inoue to fight and punish the trash-talking Casimero. I think the noise that he made is already enough to sell this fight, not only in Japan but for the other countries as they made their names popular due to the impressive past wins.

They will surely react because it's a big insult to their champion, they have a chance now to have a fighter like Manny Pacquiao and could bring some honor to their country. AFAIK, there's no boxer in Japan that is currently as successful as Inoue, he is rank number 2 in the pound for pound ranking, so this guy has a good future ahead of him, he just need to stop Casimero first so he can continue without doubts from the fans.

Lets just go back or have some history
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Japanese_boxing_world_champions

Im not really that agree that there were no good boxers on this country.It is just they are really unheard off but they are still really that competent.

[stadus]

Isn't it an official announcement if the date came from the fighter himself? Maybe it's not yet official because there's no announcement yet from the organizers and management of both fighters. But if the fighter himself was the one to announce it, that only means that there's something that they're already cooking and probably because of his excitement, he slip due to his excitement to announce it.

Yeah, that gives us an idea that the negotiation is already happening now between two camps and Casimero is luckier than Donaire because he will get a chance to fight Inoue first and if he can make an upset, he could also choose not to give Donaire a chance to fight him. (sweet revenge)

Well, Casimero has been chosen because of what he did on social media and that's effective on him to take this match. What everyone stands right now is about the official announcement.
I guess that we'll be having that anytime soon when things have been settled within a month or two since this year is about to end and it came from Casimero that the match will happen by December.

If the fans of Inoue did not react to Casimero's tirades, then we would not see this fight this month. Thanks to the fans also because they take it as their fight urging Inoue to fight and punish the trash-talking Casimero. I think the noise that he made is already enough to sell this fight, not only in Japan but for the other countries as they made their names popular due to the impressive past wins.

They will surely react because it's a big insult to their champion, they have a chance now to have a fighter like Manny Pacquiao and could bring some honor to their country. AFAIK, there's no boxer in Japan that is currently as successful as Inoue, he is rank number 2 in the pound for pound ranking, so this guy has a good future ahead of him, he just need to stop Casimero first so he can continue without doubts from the fans.

Lets just go back or have some history
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Japanese_boxing_world_champions

Im not really that agree that there were no good boxers on this country.It is just they are really unheard off but they are still really that competent.

Well, that's your personal opinion and I respect that. What I want to say is that currently, there's no other popular champion in Japan, they only have Inoue so the support is on him, just like the Philippines they have no other boxer but Manny Pacquioa.

[Yamifoud]

Well, that's your personal opinion and I respect that. What I want to say is that currently, there's no other popular champion in Japan, they only have Inoue so the support is on him, just like the Philippines they have no other boxer but Manny Pacquioa.

Honestly, for me, I don't know any boxer in Japan who is popular except Inoue, so I'm thinking that since he was compared to Manny Pacquiao, then probably he is going on a journey that will make him the greatest boxer in Japan. Still a long way to go, he has to beat the challenge like Casimero who is on his way so he can continue his wonderful journey.