Inoue vs Donaire II discussion

[Natalim]

@goldkingcoiner. It appears you underestimate the commitment of some of the Southeast Asian fighters. If we are talking about commitment, I reckon Pacman has showed that he is one of the most commited boxers in the world. I would reckon that he is the most commited. His record is not perfect, however, he has accomplished more than anyone in the sport of boxing.

Donaire's social media presence is only marketing. I am quite certain his wife has hired someone to run the account and be in charge of promoting Nonito Donaire in Instagram, Facebook and Twitter.

Lol, but this so true, remember that Japan is also part of the Asian countries so both fighters from the Philippines and Japan are the same. Maybe what separates more from the PH is that they want to get out of poverty that's why the commitment of fighters like Manny and the rest of the new bred. Yes, Donaire grew up in the States, but he has also accomplished a lot. Or maybe Rachel is also handling the promotion of Nonito is the social media?

Pacquiao is an inspiration for every pinoy fighter, and like him, everyone wants to use this channel to escape from poverty. If given a chance, they will do their best to keep winning and to keep getting money fights that will remove them from being poor, also, I agree that Donaire is from state even he got pinoy blood but he lives from US and those accomplishments is from his own hard work and dedication too.

Manny is the real inspiration, that's why pinoy boxers has to stay humble all the time and should have the kind of work ethic Manny have. Donaire may not start his pro boxing in the Philippines but he is a real Filipino, and he is proud to represent the Philippines as well, so we should also be proud of him.

[judeafante]

Manny is the real inspiration, that's why pinoy boxers has to stay humble all the time and should have the kind of work ethic Manny have. Donaire may not start his pro boxing in the Philippines but he is a real Filipino, and he is proud to represent the Philippines as well, so we should also be proud of him.

Donaire is also an inspiration to the Filipinos they are supportive of him, it always headlines in the Philippines whenever he has a fight coming, and he is proud to be a Filipino he is proud of his monicker the Filipino flash, and the Filipino will be in full support once he faced Inoue.
Donaire only has a few fights left and a win against Inoue will give him a great legacy in the boxing industry.

[carlisle1]

Manny is the real inspiration, that's why pinoy boxers has to stay humble all the time and should have the kind of work ethic Manny have. Donaire may not start his pro boxing in the Philippines but he is a real Filipino, and he is proud to represent the Philippines as well, so we should also be proud of him.

Donaire is also an inspiration to the Filipinos they are supportive of him, it always headlines in the Philippines whenever he has a fight coming, and he is proud to be a Filipino he is proud of his monicker the Filipino flash, and the Filipino will be in full support once he faced Inoue.
Donaire only has a few fights left and a win against Inoue will give him a great legacy in the boxing industry.

He got his own title as the "Pinoy Flash" just like how Pilipino adores Pacquiao. Donaire also has that popularity even he's not locally

base in the Philippines. He brings glory the same way Manny did. In my own opinion, he's popularity is next to Pacquiao, now that he will have

another chance fighting Inoue, the support from his represented land will be there. Though he's not the favorite here but the chance to win

is still possible. The adjustment and that fighting strategy that he just shown from his last fight gives us some glimpse on how he will

also try beating Inoue and reclaimed his old belt.

[Ararbermas]

He got his own title as the "Pinoy Flash" just like how Pilipino adores Pacquiao. Donaire also has that popularity even he's not locally

yhup he's a proud filipino fighter and even he lives in US he still carrying fiilipino flag inside the ring that's why fililinos are very proud of him also.
And i remember when i was a kid because he's always the second most popular boxer here in our country, wherein, people are very excited and love to watch his fight, although not the same with Pacquiao that it look like a holiday always in the Philippines when there's a fight.  

[dunfida]

He got his own title as the "Pinoy Flash" just like how Pilipino adores Pacquiao. Donaire also has that popularity even he's not locally

yhup he's a proud filipino fighter and even he lives in US he still carrying fiilipino flag inside the ring that's why fililinos are very proud of him also.
And i remember when i was a kid because he's always the second most popular boxer here in our country, wherein, people are very excited and love to watch his fight, although not the same with Pacquiao that it look like a holiday always in the Philippines when there's a fight.  

Its totally comparable when it comes to reputation in between Pacquiao and Donaire which its not surprising that there would be different attention that they do get whenever they do have some upcoming fight but if

Donaire was able to get on the same achievement on what Pacquiao did then for sure it would really be still having the on same reaction or attention on what he would possibly get.Its true that he might live in different
country but he's proud on bringing his true nationality and which do proves out that Pinoys are really that a good fighter or boxer which couldnt really be that underestimated.

[Maslate]

He got his own title as the "Pinoy Flash" just like how Pilipino adores Pacquiao. Donaire also has that popularity even he's not locally

yhup he's a proud filipino fighter and even he lives in US he still carrying fiilipino flag inside the ring that's why fililinos are very proud of him also.
And i remember when i was a kid because he's always the second most popular boxer here in our country, wherein, people are very excited and love to watch his fight, although not the same with Pacquiao that it look like a holiday always in the Philippines when there's a fight.  

We will be more proud of him if he beats Inoue as that would put him in the number 1 ranking in the bantamweight division. Next step, will be fighting his fellow which is Casimero to become an undisputed champion, though some people think he is already old, but man this guy is still capable of knocking out young champions, so these are all possible.

[ultrloa]

He got his own title as the "Pinoy Flash" just like how Pilipino adores Pacquiao. Donaire also has that popularity even he's not locally

yhup he's a proud filipino fighter and even he lives in US he still carrying fiilipino flag inside the ring that's why fililinos are very proud of him also.
And i remember when i was a kid because he's always the second most popular boxer here in our country, wherein, people are very excited and love to watch his fight, although not the same with Pacquiao that it look like a holiday always in the Philippines when there's a fight.  

We will be more proud of him if he beats Inoue as that would put him in the number 1 ranking in the bantamweight division. Next step, will be fighting his fellow which is Casimero to become an undisputed champion, though some people think he is already old, but man this guy is still capable of knocking out young champions, so these are all possible.

Even if not we will still proud of him since he sealed his legacy already and we know how prime Donaire fight against his opponent. But if he could able to win this fight and stain the record of one of the most hype fighter of this era then provably this is one of the great achievement he will get before he retires. This is great last shot to him since maybe he will retire after this fight knowing that he's old already to have further more match.

[aioc]

He got his own title as the "Pinoy Flash" just like how Pilipino adores Pacquiao. Donaire also has that popularity even he's not locally

yhup he's a proud filipino fighter and even he lives in US he still carrying fiilipino flag inside the ring that's why fililinos are very proud of him also.
And i remember when i was a kid because he's always the second most popular boxer here in our country, wherein, people are very excited and love to watch his fight, although not the same with Pacquiao that it look like a holiday always in the Philippines when there's a fight.  

We will be more proud of him if he beats Inoue as that would put him in the number 1 ranking in the bantamweight division. Next step, will be fighting his fellow which is Casimero to become an undisputed champion, though some people think he is already old, but man this guy is still capable of knocking out young champions, so these are all possible.

Even if not we will still proud of him since he sealed his legacy already and we know how prime Donaire fight against his opponent. But if he could able to win this fight and stain the record of one of the most hype fighter of this era then provably this is one of the great achievement he will get before he retires. This is great last shot to him since maybe he will retire after this fight knowing that he's old already to have further more match.

Donaire surprised the boxing community by winning a belt and defending it via another knockout against Gaballo also a very dangerous and young fighter, Donaire has had many ups and downs in his career, and he may well be on another run for greatness, no he is not old, a fighter like Donaire will not retire because he thinks he is old, he will retire if he keeps continuing losing and losing badly.

[goinmerry]

Donaire surprised the boxing community by winning a belt and defending it via another knockout against Gaballo also a very dangerous and young fighter, Donaire has had many ups and downs in his career, and he may well be on another run for greatness, no he is not old, a fighter like Donaire will not retire because he thinks he is old, he will retire if he keeps continuing losing and losing badly.

Donaire is a super underdog when they first clash with Naoya Inoue. But look at what happened, Donaire becomes the first boxer to make Inoue feels crazy about how he will beat this guy. He never thought surely that he was not expecting that speed and power from an old boxer.

In this rematch, Inoue will likely not consider now that age is a factor. Donaire still has the speed and KO power and he proves that in his previous fights after being defeated by Inoue. Although those previous opponents of Donaire can't be compared to Inoue, a win is a win.

[Oilacris]

He got his own title as the "Pinoy Flash" just like how Pilipino adores Pacquiao. Donaire also has that popularity even he's not locally

yhup he's a proud filipino fighter and even he lives in US he still carrying fiilipino flag inside the ring that's why fililinos are very proud of him also.
And i remember when i was a kid because he's always the second most popular boxer here in our country, wherein, people are very excited and love to watch his fight, although not the same with Pacquiao that it look like a holiday always in the Philippines when there's a fight.  

We will be more proud of him if he beats Inoue as that would put him in the number 1 ranking in the bantamweight division. Next step, will be fighting his fellow which is Casimero to become an undisputed champion, though some people think he is already old, but man this guy is still capable of knocking out young champions, so these are all possible.

Even if not we will still proud of him since he sealed his legacy already and we know how prime Donaire fight against his opponent. But if he could able to win this fight and stain the record of one of the most hype fighter of this era then provably this is one of the great achievement he will get before he retires. This is great last shot to him since maybe he will retire after this fight knowing that he's old already to have further more match.

Donaire surprised the boxing community by winning a belt and defending it via another knockout against Gaballo also a very dangerous and young fighter, Donaire has had many ups and downs in his career, and he may well be on another run for greatness, no he is not old, a fighter like Donaire will not retire because he thinks he is old, he will retire if he keeps continuing losing and losing badly.

He's still 39 years old which i could consider to be old but wont really be that old for him to consider on hanging out his gloves.He could still beat up possible opponents ahead and now that he had some

chance on making out some rematch with Inoue which had beaten him up on last then he had the chance to make out some revenge or comeback which would really persevere him even more.
Its a bit exciting that it do really ended up to this instead of Casimero but its still a good fight to watch on.

[TravelMug]

Donaire surprised the boxing community by winning a belt and defending it via another knockout against Gaballo also a very dangerous and young fighter, Donaire has had many ups and downs in his career, and he may well be on another run for greatness, no he is not old, a fighter like Donaire will not retire because he thinks he is old, he will retire if he keeps continuing losing and losing badly.

Donaire is a super underdog when they first clash with Naoya Inoue. But look at what happened, Donaire becomes the first boxer to make Inoue feels crazy about how he will beat this guy. He never thought surely that he was not expecting that speed and power from an old boxer.

In this rematch, Inoue will likely not consider now that age is a factor. Donaire still has the speed and KO power and he proves that in his previous fights after being defeated by Inoue. Although those previous opponents of Donaire can't be compared to Inoue, a win is a win.

It will be interesting to see the match again, as you have said, it was only Donaire that gave Inoue the hardest fight in his career, just imagine extending it to full 12 rounds and damaging Inoue's eye.

But we have to take into consideration now that father time is on the side of Donaire, he is 39 and by boxing standards, that is old enough although there could be some exceptions to it. So we will see if Donaire still has it, specially his quick reflexes and his power on the left hook.

[bbc.reporter]

@goldkingcoiner. It appears you underestimate the commitment of some of the Southeast Asian fighters. If we are talking about commitment, I reckon Pacman has showed that he is one of the most commited boxers in the world. I would reckon that he is the most commited. His record is not perfect, however, he has accomplished more than anyone in the sport of boxing.

Donaire's social media presence is only marketing. I am quite certain his wife has hired someone to run the account and be in charge of promoting Nonito Donaire in Instagram, Facebook and Twitter.

Well, we can surely see both fighters determination, in this fight and who ever wins this fight will be the more determined and very hungry for greatness and hunger for victory, for sure many will be in favor with Noaya Inoue. But there are a few that may risk on betting for Nonito Donaire, because of what he has shown inside that ring; he surely was agonizing in pain because of inoue's body blows but his determination has shown more quality.

I speculate that if Nonito Donaire wins, it will be his determination that will win him this fight. Naoya Inoue is younger, stronger and certainly is the better boxer. He is presently Japan's best pound for pound boxer, Japan's own Pacman and he will bring honor to his country to the sport of boxing, very much similar to Philippines' Pacman. However, I predict this to be a knockout for Inoue with Donaire carried out of the ring with a stretcher.

Smart money is on Inoue. The very fact that he is younger and more devoted to his boxxing, as I have mentioned, is really what is the deciding factor here. Of course there is a probability that Donaire could win. But then again there is a probability that gravity turns off tomorrow.

Donaire will be carried out on a stretcher while yelling for a rematch with Inoue. 

Dreams and hopes can only carry one person so far. If he does not have the will to go through with serious dedication to training, he will definitely lose.

I will agree that smart money should be on Inoue in this match. But stop saying that Donaire has no dedication because he did his time in boxing and has been a multiple champion and accomplished a lot. If he losses then no excuses, but it doesn't mean that he didn't put 100% on training, it is that Inoue might be the best boxer in their division, or at what they say, the best fighter win that night.

Agreed. What is presently carrying Donaire's career is his dedication, his passion for boxing and certainly the hard work made during training. He is 39 years old and can still knockout younger boxers with one of them being a WBA champion. If he can take the fight versus Inoue until the end, it would be very impressive.

[goldkingcoiner]

I will agree that smart money should be on Inoue in this match. But stop saying that Donaire has no dedication because he did his time in boxing and has been a multiple champion and accomplished a lot. If he losses then no excuses, but it doesn't mean that he didn't put 100% on training, it is that Inoue might be the best boxer in their division, or at what they say, the best fighter win that night.

I am just going by my own analysis of the probable outcomes and what reasons could be driving those probabilities. I am no statistical data scientist so I am probably way off when it comes to the odds. Its just that Donaire has been giving off an air of retirement/tiredness or something similiar. Maybe its just me that is getting that feeling but if there is one thing that is certain is that odds are in Inoue's favor, no matter how you look at it.

Inoue has proven that he is not a force to be trifled with all throughout his fighting history.

I don't mind being surprised by the opposite

[mirakal]

@goldkingcoiner. It appears you underestimate the commitment of some of the Southeast Asian fighters. If we are talking about commitment, I reckon Pacman has showed that he is one of the most commited boxers in the world. I would reckon that he is the most commited. His record is not perfect, however, he has accomplished more than anyone in the sport of boxing.

Donaire's social media presence is only marketing. I am quite certain his wife has hired someone to run the account and be in charge of promoting Nonito Donaire in Instagram, Facebook and Twitter.

Lol, but this so true, remember that Japan is also part of the Asian countries so both fighters from the Philippines and Japan are the same. Maybe what separates more from the PH is that they want to get out of poverty that's why the commitment of fighters like Manny and the rest of the new bred. Yes, Donaire grew up in the States, but he has also accomplished a lot. Or maybe Rachel is also handling the promotion of Nonito is the social media?

No mate, Southeast Asian fighters doesn't include Japanese fighters because Japan is part of the Eastern Asia and not SEA. We might get confused about that sometimes because Asia is a big continent that's why it's divided into 5 regions.

However, I agree that most of the Asian fighters are the same if we're talking about commitment and dedication.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I hope that it won't be the same deciding factor and giving scores since the venue will be the same. That's a big worry for all the fans but Donaire just accepted it.
I'm sure that he's going to prove it that whether he got the crowd, the venue, the judges, he's going to take Inoue down and with a TKO. I guess this is what's on the mind of Donaire after knowing the conditions.

Regardless of the venue, I mentioned that Naoya Inoue might not allow to experience his struggle again during their first fight. He is surely much improved here and will do his very best to prove that he's the King of 117-118 lbs.

Nonito Donaire surely knows that very well that's why I like to put my trust in him finally, he can win this time even he will be the underdog.

A sweet TKO is a must but knowing the resistance of Inoue, that was hard to do. Inoue is also backed up by venue fans making it more difficult to fight.

Both has the better spirit but I think that Nonito is having more of that intense desire that he should knock Inoue out with all the favors that has given to him.
And I think he's anticipating that Inoue became stronger and better this time too. Well, we will see who's the better person this time and they'll just settle on who's on the favor and not.

That left hook of Donaire will be the big difference here, if he can abuse Inoue early and caught up with some big shots, maybe he will score a knock out and who knows, he had broken his orbital bone and it's possible again with that powerful left hook.

I know that Inoue is strong and fast, but Donaire's advantage is the experience and the timing. Timing beats speed in boxing, so let's see if he can land that patented left hook of his.

I don't know about you, but many are assuming that Donaire's age will make him lose skill, and that Inoue has all the advantage being younger to have another style or strategy against Donaire, we all know that Donaire's secret weapon is his uppercut left, that is something that Inoue himself is clear about, but Inoue has the irreverence that is what I highlight in every fighter, and if we add that there can be a change of strategy by Inoue that can be effective against Donaire, it is a luxury that he can give himself, on the other hand Donaire cannot start to invent, he must use everything he has to win the fight without changing style and using his left hook to a thousand.

[Dave1]

^^ We can only speculate that a fighter can still fight and put up his best during his last performance. And with that said, we can see that Donaire has still the power in both hands as he was able to knock out his opponent and then get the belt easily. So for now, let's say that his age will not be a factor until we see him in the ring against Inoue. If he still has it, then it will be a good fight and he might have a chance to upset the Monster, if not, then he could be knock out in the early rounds because Inoue will be too much.

[Questat]

^^ We can only speculate that a fighter can still fight and put up his best during his last performance. And with that said, we can see that Donaire has still the power in both hands as he was able to knock out his opponent and then get the belt easily. So for now, let's say that his age will not be a factor until we see him in the ring against Inoue. If he still has it, then it will be a good fight and he might have a chance to upset the Monster, if not, then he could be knock out in the early rounds because Inoue will be too much.

For Donaire to be able to win the fight, he must have a good look to counter Inoue and KO him, otherwise, he will just again lose in points because Inoue is more mobile and he throws more punches than Donaire. It's not an easy fight for Donaire but his win in the past fight should give him enough confidence to beat the beast.

[Yaunfitda]

I will agree that smart money should be on Inoue in this match. But stop saying that Donaire has no dedication because he did his time in boxing and has been a multiple champion and accomplished a lot. If he losses then no excuses, but it doesn't mean that he didn't put 100% on training, it is that Inoue might be the best boxer in their division, or at what they say, the best fighter win that night.

I am just going by my own analysis of the probable outcomes and what reasons could be driving those probabilities. I am no statistical data scientist so I am probably way off when it comes to the odds. Its just that Donaire has been giving off an air of retirement/tiredness or something similiar. Maybe its just me that is getting that feeling but if there is one thing that is certain is that odds are in Inoue's favor, no matter how you look at it.

Inoue has proven that he is not a force to be trifled with all throughout his fighting history.

I don't mind being surprised by the opposite

I would agree though, specially when he did try to go up in weight but then brutally knock out by Nicholas Walters, we might see some glimpse that he might be slipping away. And then he had this string of victories after that, maybe against some low level fighters, but when he step up the plates again, he losses to Diego Magdaleno and then to Carl Frampton. But then again, he redeem himself by knocking out two young champions, Oubaali and fellow Pinoy Reymart Gaballo. So maybe Donaire has some still in his tank against Inoue in this fight.

[bbc.reporter]

@goldkingcoiner. It appears you underestimate the commitment of some of the Southeast Asian fighters. If we are talking about commitment, I reckon Pacman has showed that he is one of the most commited boxers in the world. I would reckon that he is the most commited. His record is not perfect, however, he has accomplished more than anyone in the sport of boxing.

Donaire's social media presence is only marketing. I am quite certain his wife has hired someone to run the account and be in charge of promoting Nonito Donaire in Instagram, Facebook and Twitter.

Lol, but this so true, remember that Japan is also part of the Asian countries so both fighters from the Philippines and Japan are the same. Maybe what separates more from the PH is that they want to get out of poverty that's why the commitment of fighters like Manny and the rest of the new bred. Yes, Donaire grew up in the States, but he has also accomplished a lot. Or maybe Rachel is also handling the promotion of Nonito is the social media?

No mate, Southeast Asian fighters doesn't include Japanese fighters because Japan is part of the Eastern Asia and not SEA. We might get confused about that sometimes because Asia is a big continent that's why it's divided into 5 regions.

However, I agree that most of the Asian fighters are the same if we're talking about commitment and dedication.

I was arguing for the dedication of the Filipino boxer, Nonito Donaire. If he can win this fight, it will certainly be through his commitment and dedication. Naoya Inoue is younger, stronger, faster and most certainly better than Donaire. My prediction is Inoue will make Donaire sleep with a knockout. However, it will be a victory for old boxer Donaire if he can finish 12 rounds against the young Japanese champion.

[Fredomago]

^^ We can only speculate that a fighter can still fight and put up his best during his last performance. And with that said, we can see that Donaire has still the power in both hands as he was able to knock out his opponent and then get the belt easily. So for now, let's say that his age will not be a factor until we see him in the ring against Inoue. If he still has it, then it will be a good fight and he might have a chance to upset the Monster, if not, then he could be knock out in the early rounds because Inoue will be too much.

For Donaire to be able to win the fight, he must have a good look to counter Inoue and KO him, otherwise, he will just again lose in points because Inoue is more mobile and he throws more punches than Donaire. It's not an easy fight for Donaire but his win in the past fight should give him enough confidence to beat the beast.

The last time these two fought, Donaire converts good numbers of solid punches, but Inoue ignores and overpowers him. It's convincing that Inoue is really powerful but if Donaire will again converts those solid punches, the chance is high since he just win his last fight with a good decent strategy and combinations, if he will enhance that style he may upset and make his revenge to Inoue.

We can't tell if how this fight will end. The chance for both fighters is equal. They are both champ and have that KO punches.