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April 17, 2022, 01:56:21 PM
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I can see that Inoue will try to be less aggressive on the early rounds and will look to make the fight long. Yes, a trilogy is bound to happen if Donaire will make this fight into his favor.

Hopefully, Donaire can win and will strip Inoue of his belts.
I am sure Donaire will be obligated to give a trilogy in case he wins, so let's see if we have a different outcome in this rematch.

BTW, Casimero is just waiting to fight the winner of the rematch, but it seems like he is getting the attention.  Grin
I guess he should continue trash talking after he can defend his title.

That is still undecided though if Donaire can really strip Inoue this time, I would not deny that I'm for Donaire but it is really hard to deny Inoue's prowess and we've saw that Donaire is struggling to hurt Inoue because the latter is trying not to feel the punches from Donaire. But in this match we will see a different version of them as they will improve more.

If Donaire will manange to defeat Inoue here, I agree that a trilogy will happen.

I think majority of us here are Donaire fans, we have seen him grow in the last 10-15 years becoming one of the best. But yes, it will be a very hard fight for him against teh Monster which for me is not yet hitting his prime years during their first fight and yet he already defeated Donaire. So he has improved a lot since then that's why Donaire's chance are slim but he won't take that, he will fight and wanted to test Inoue again.

I am a fan of Donaire but I will not be biased with my judgment, I still think that the result of this rematch will not be far from the result of the first fight. The younger fighter (Inoue) will still dominate as he can use his advantage which is his speed and power punching on Donaire.

Donaire is a great counter puncher, but the question is, can he hit a moving Inoue?

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April 17, 2022, 11:37:19 PM
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Donaire is a great counter puncher, but the question is, can he hit a moving Inoue?

As far as my own observation is concerned, yes 100% Donaire can hit Inoue even how far the Japanese Monster improved his speed.

However, the critical stage will be, if the fight lasts for long, that was a disadvantage for an aging Donaire. Stamina-wise, the monster can lasts up to 12 rounds with continuous bouts. Remember in their first fight, after hitting brutally by Donaire, the monster takes time to recover until he slowly gained momentum in the later rounds and does the aggressiveness on that part as he knows Donaire is much even tired compared to him.

Donaire is ahead for me in the early rounds but if Inoue survives those, that's dangerous. In Donaire's previous fights after losing to Inoue, he tried his best to finish the fight early and he succeeded. Different story though against the monster.

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April 17, 2022, 11:44:20 PM
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I am a fan of Donaire but I will not be biased with my judgment, I still think that the result of this rematch will not be far from the result of the first fight. The younger fighter (Inoue) will still dominate as he can use his advantage which is his speed and power punching on Donaire.

Donaire is a great counter puncher, but the question is, can he hit a moving Inoue?
We're all just going to guess and there's no other basis that we can get aside from their first match. But the thing now is that both of them have become better.
And that's for sure, we're all likely thinking that Donaire would be able to maximize where he's good at and still many of us, fans think that his loss was just a fluke.

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April 17, 2022, 11:52:44 PM
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 #704

I think majority of us here are Donaire fans, we have seen him grow in the last 10-15 years becoming one of the best. But yes, it will be a very hard fight for him against teh Monster which for me is not yet hitting his prime years during their first fight and yet he already defeated Donaire. So he has improved a lot since then that's why Donaire's chance are slim but he won't take that, he will fight and wanted to test Inoue again.

I'm with Nonito Donaire to win the fight, not as a fan, but because regardless of his status in this fight, Favorite or Underdog, I will support any PH representative.

I admit that Naoya Inoue has more chances to win the fight but even how small the chance of Donaire winning this rematch is, a chance is still a chance. There's always an upset and that is possible. I also have some reasons to believe why Donaire can win the fight.

I don't fucking care how strong Naoya Inoue is as what will be my reason to support him? I also like that Donaire is an underdog as I can expect good odds betting on him. It's good to see my own pick having good odds.

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April 18, 2022, 04:16:38 AM
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I think majority of us here are Donaire fans, we have seen him grow in the last 10-15 years becoming one of the best. But yes, it will be a very hard fight for him against teh Monster which for me is not yet hitting his prime years during their first fight and yet he already defeated Donaire. So he has improved a lot since then that's why Donaire's chance are slim but he won't take that, he will fight and wanted to test Inoue again.

I'm with Nonito Donaire to win the fight, not as a fan, but because regardless of his status in this fight, Favorite or Underdog, I will support any PH representative.
And I'm sure Nonito now will add more on this fight because he once lose to This Japanese boxer and wanted to take a revenge to raise the flag of Philippines .
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I admit that Naoya Inoue has more chances to win the fight but even how small the chance of Donaire winning this rematch is, a chance is still a chance. There's always an upset and that is possible. I also have some reasons to believe why Donaire can win the fight.
He is the All time favorite considering that he Beats Nonito In their first bout but thistime? it will change .
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I don't fucking care how strong Naoya Inoue is as what will be my reason to support him? I also like that Donaire is an underdog as I can expect good odds betting on him. It's good to see my own pick having good odds.
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April 18, 2022, 04:28:49 AM
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I admit that Naoya Inoue has more chances to win the fight but even how small the chance of Donaire winning this rematch is, a chance is still a chance. There's always an upset and that is possible. I also have some reasons to believe why Donaire can win the fight.
He is the All time favorite considering that he Beats Nonito In their first bout but thistime? it will change .

This is my personal take. During Donaire's first fight with Naoya, he had more chances of winning. That was an opportunity which was more reachable than their rematch in the coming months. In fact, Donaire showed to the world that Naoya is not the monster that everybody is afraid of. He even almost knocked him down if I can still remember it right. But I guess from their first match and their second one, Donaire must be growing a little slower and weaker.

His win would be an upset because he is the underdog at 4.20. If you are a Donaire fan, betting on moneyline is a good bet.
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April 18, 2022, 06:16:02 AM
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I admit that Naoya Inoue has more chances to win the fight but even how small the chance of Donaire winning this rematch is, a chance is still a chance. There's always an upset and that is possible. I also have some reasons to believe why Donaire can win the fight.
He is the All time favorite considering that he Beats Nonito In their first bout but thistime? it will change .

This is my personal take. During Donaire's first fight with Naoya, he had more chances of winning. That was an opportunity which was more reachable than their rematch in the coming months. In fact, Donaire showed to the world that Naoya is not the monster that everybody is afraid of. He even almost knocked him down if I can still remember it right. But I guess from their first match and their second one, Donaire must be growing a little slower and weaker.

His win would be an upset because he is the underdog at 4.20. If you are a Donaire fan, betting on moneyline is a good bet.

As a fan, that odd is really great reward if Donaire upset Inoue on this upcoming rematch.

Bookies might see the gap from all the possible advantages, though in this sport, upset is always present and fans are
mostly aiming and hoping that their pick will win.We never know how prepared Donaire in this fight, he will try everything
to be the last man standing and earn what title Inoue's holding right now.
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April 18, 2022, 08:42:40 AM
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I can see that Inoue will try to be less aggressive on the early rounds and will look to make the fight long. Yes, a trilogy is bound to happen if Donaire will make this fight into his favor.

Hopefully, Donaire can win and will strip Inoue of his belts.
I am sure Donaire will be obligated to give a trilogy in case he wins, so let's see if we have a different outcome in this rematch.

BTW, Casimero is just waiting to fight the winner of the rematch, but it seems like he is getting the attention.  Grin
I guess he should continue trash talking after he can defend his title.

That is still undecided though if Donaire can really strip Inoue this time, I would not deny that I'm for Donaire but it is really hard to deny Inoue's prowess and we've saw that Donaire is struggling to hurt Inoue because the latter is trying not to feel the punches from Donaire. But in this match we will see a different version of them as they will improve more.

If Donaire will manange to defeat Inoue here, I agree that a trilogy will happen.

I think majority of us here are Donaire fans, we have seen him grow in the last 10-15 years becoming one of the best. But yes, it will be a very hard fight for him against teh Monster which for me is not yet hitting his prime years during their first fight and yet he already defeated Donaire. So he has improved a lot since then that's why Donaire's chance are slim but he won't take that, he will fight and wanted to test Inoue again.

Donaire is already a successful boxer, and he is named as the OLDEST BANTAMWEIGHT CHAMPION IN BOXING HISTORY ....His dream is not over yet, he would go for his ultimate dream which is to become an undisputed champion and this is a step to make and he should win the fight.

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April 18, 2022, 11:29:05 AM
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I admit that Naoya Inoue has more chances to win the fight but even how small the chance of Donaire winning this rematch is, a chance is still a chance. There's always an upset and that is possible. I also have some reasons to believe why Donaire can win the fight.
He is the All time favorite considering that he Beats Nonito In their first bout but thistime? it will change .

This is my personal take. During Donaire's first fight with Naoya, he had more chances of winning. That was an opportunity which was more reachable than their rematch in the coming months. In fact, Donaire showed to the world that Naoya is not the monster that everybody is afraid of. He even almost knocked him down if I can still remember it right. But I guess from their first match and their second one, Donaire must be growing a little slower and weaker.

Donaire's career is not over yet and I firmly believe on his skill set that he still have what it takes to defeat Naoya Inoue, not because I'm his fan but because I'm keeping track of his fights since he was defeated by Inoue by a unanimous decision. I would agree that he doesn't stand a chance or somehow his chance is lesser now if Donaire have been lost on his fights after that defeat against Inoue but no, he still managed to knockout two decent boxer in just 1 year who also have a clean record.

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April 18, 2022, 03:08:16 PM
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Donaire is a great counter puncher, but the question is, can he hit a moving Inoue?

As far as my own observation is concerned, yes 100% Donaire can hit Inoue even how far the Japanese Monster improved his speed.

However, the critical stage will be, if the fight lasts for long, that was a disadvantage for an aging Donaire. Stamina-wise, the monster can lasts up to 12 rounds with continuous bouts. Remember in their first fight, after hitting brutally by Donaire, the monster takes time to recover until he slowly gained momentum in the later rounds and does the aggressiveness on that part as he knows Donaire is much even tired compared to him.

Donaire is ahead for me in the early rounds but if Inoue survives those, that's dangerous. In Donaire's previous fights after losing to Inoue, he tried his best to finish the fight early and he succeeded. Different story though against the monster.

Indeed! I've also thought about the same, the fact is that they've surely learned on their first encounter and that they both have upgraded their weaknesses so that it wouldn't become a problem for them on the day of the fight while they are also improving their strengths as they both already know where are their weak points and that they've proved that their punches is really taking a toll on their body. The problem is that their stamina differs badly because yes as you have stated, Donaire may try to be more aggressive in the early rounds and try to knock out the monster but the monster's play would be that he would let Donaire to get tired first before he make his moves.

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April 18, 2022, 05:56:52 PM
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Donaire is a great counter puncher, but the question is, can he hit a moving Inoue?

As far as my own observation is concerned, yes 100% Donaire can hit Inoue even how far the Japanese Monster improved his speed.

However, the critical stage will be, if the fight lasts for long, that was a disadvantage for an aging Donaire. Stamina-wise, the monster can lasts up to 12 rounds with continuous bouts. Remember in their first fight, after hitting brutally by Donaire, the monster takes time to recover until he slowly gained momentum in the later rounds and does the aggressiveness on that part as he knows Donaire is much even tired compared to him.

Donaire is ahead for me in the early rounds but if Inoue survives those, that's dangerous. In Donaire's previous fights after losing to Inoue, he tried his best to finish the fight early and he succeeded. Different story though against the monster.
I think this is going to be the key, can Donaire get enough of an advantage over Inoue on the score cards early on to the point he can nullify the aggressiveness and stamina that we will see from Inoue on the later rounds? If Donaire can do this then his abilities as a counter-puncher will help him overcome the aggressiveness of Inoue, but if that is not the case and he needs to also look for opportunities to strike at Inoue late in the fight Inoue will beat him with his stamina alone.
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April 18, 2022, 07:54:54 PM
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Donaire is a great counter puncher, but the question is, can he hit a moving Inoue?

As far as my own observation is concerned, yes 100% Donaire can hit Inoue even how far the Japanese Monster improved his speed.

However, the critical stage will be, if the fight lasts for long, that was a disadvantage for an aging Donaire. Stamina-wise, the monster can lasts up to 12 rounds with continuous bouts. Remember in their first fight, after hitting brutally by Donaire, the monster takes time to recover until he slowly gained momentum in the later rounds and does the aggressiveness on that part as he knows Donaire is much even tired compared to him.

Donaire is ahead for me in the early rounds but if Inoue survives those, that's dangerous. In Donaire's previous fights after losing to Inoue, he tried his best to finish the fight early and he succeeded. Different story though against the monster.
I think this is going to be the key, can Donaire get enough of an advantage over Inoue on the score cards early on to the point he can nullify the aggressiveness and stamina that we will see from Inoue on the later rounds? If Donaire can do this then his abilities as a counter-puncher will help him overcome the aggressiveness of Inoue, but if that is not the case and he needs to also look for opportunities to strike at Inoue late in the fight Inoue will beat him with his stamina alone.

Base from how we saw Donaire's last fight, he learned that patience to wait and keep observing while doing good defense and counter punches.

He can enhance that strategy and wait for a good opening in case Inoue got careless while doing his tactics. The pinoy flash still has that strong

combination if ever he got that hook plus the solid conversions, his fighting chance winning this fight will be amazing. A good upset and a possible

rematch for the trilogy before he decided to hang his gloves.
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April 18, 2022, 08:33:15 PM
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Donaire is already a successful boxer, and he is named as the OLDEST BANTAMWEIGHT CHAMPION IN BOXING HISTORY ....His dream is not over yet, he would go for his ultimate dream which is to become an undisputed champion and this is a step to make and he should win the fight.
Yeah, and I believe that he'll be close to that after this fight. He's a determined fighter and Donaire would be pursuing that and I guess that he won't disappoint himself.
That's what he has to do before his retirement so that he has left a legacy that he'll be remembered for even though he's already on the retirement. Just like what Pacman did and had throughout his entire boxing career.

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April 18, 2022, 09:44:37 PM
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@OP, since we already have the date for this three-belt unification fight, would you mind changing the title of this thread and putting the date so the fans here would have a clearer glimpse of when the fight would take place by just looking at the title.

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@OP, since we already have the date for this three-belt unification fight, would you mind changing the title of this thread and putting the date so the fans here would have a clearer glimpse of when the fight would take place by just looking at the title.

Inoue vs Donaire Title Unification Fight (June 7)


Finally, its good to see the final date and hoping that it will push through.
This can be a good rematch between this two, its good to be more specific on the title so bettors can easily find this thread and read some of the comments here. Donaire have to be more prepared this time, because Inoue is always the hardest boxer to fight with on his level, can’t wait for this one.
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April 18, 2022, 11:27:35 PM
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Well, perhaps the reason why Donaire canceled his fight against Casimero because they are both Filipino and now Donaire's target is Inoue because of the revenge. But the eagerneies was only on the Donaire's side not on Inuoe and there is a chance that Inoue will not accept the chance to fight that was challenged by Donaire. Although there is no announcement yet and that is only a rumor, it could be the judges mind will change who will be the next. But who knwos there is an announcemnet.
They should not make announcement with regards to that fight if they think they are both Filipino, it’s just that Donaire can’t handle the trash talk and Casimero is playing a dirty trick. Going back on this discussion, we know these are two great boxer, they have history and there’s a chance for this match again. If Pinoy can’t beat Inoue this time, then I believe there’s no other way but to accept that fact.

as per Ryker1's comment about inoue will not accept the chance to fight with donaire - the fight is already scheduled this june 7. but anyway, the comment was last year so we were not sure at that time about this match. and now, it is not a rumour anymore. a lot of bookies have their odds out already favouring inoue of course. donaire is the underdog so for those who are rooting for donaire, this is a good chance for you to place bet on him. after all, we are saying that age doesn't matter so long you are totally conditioned for the fight.

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April 18, 2022, 11:34:14 PM
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@OP, since we already have the date for this three-belt unification fight, would you mind changing the title of this thread and putting the date so the fans here would have a clearer glimpse of when the fight would take place by just looking at the title.

Inoue vs Donaire Title Unification Fight (June 7)


Finally, its good to see the final date and hoping that it will push through.
This can be a good rematch between this two, its good to be more specific on the title so bettors can easily find this thread and read some of the comments here. Donaire have to be more prepared this time, because Inoue is always the hardest boxer to fight with on his level, can’t wait for this one.
I agree that title should be changed so that people wont really be keep on questioning about on when this fight would be happening and its true that it would be on June 7  and we are just 2 months away before this fight.
Donaire would be surely be prepared for this one since it would really be considered to be sort of revenge of his lost against Inoue on their first encounter.He wont really be making the same mistake
or carelessness on not to have that good defense specially on body blows which we know that this is Inoue specialty.

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April 18, 2022, 11:51:22 PM
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Donaire would be surely be prepared for this one since it would really be considered to be sort of revenge of his lost against Inoue on their first encounter.He wont really be making the same mistake or carelessness on not to have that good defense specially on body blows which we know that this is Inoue specialty.

I think Donaire doesn't have that goal of revenge. He will just be on his usual thing, to try to win no matter what. I can't recall Donaire is having a goal of revenging his loss but just want to settle things properly in the ring regardless of who's the opponent.

And yes, preparation is surely on the way to his camp. Donaire already knows how strong the Japanese monster is and knows the capability of his opponent. He knows at this point that Inoue improved since their last fight and no choice for Donaire but to also improve his strategies.

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@OP, since we already have the date for this three-belt unification fight, would you mind changing the title of this thread and putting the date so the fans here would have a clearer glimpse of when the fight would take place by just looking at the title.

Inoue vs Donaire Title Unification Fight (June 7)

I agree. Since the fight was announced, they already set a date for it. There are users who only follow this thread and are not really that search-type person where the date is just an easy Google. Anyway, after 2 months of preparation, we can now see the result of their respective training.

I hope Donaire can upset Inoue even if the odds are clear that he has a low chance of winnings.

An upset will shock the world. I really hope for that before he hangs his gloves for good.

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April 19, 2022, 01:25:46 AM
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I admit that Naoya Inoue has more chances to win the fight but even how small the chance of Donaire winning this rematch is, a chance is still a chance. There's always an upset and that is possible. I also have some reasons to believe why Donaire can win the fight.
He is the All time favorite considering that he Beats Nonito In their first bout but thistime? it will change .

This is my personal take. During Donaire's first fight with Naoya, he had more chances of winning. That was an opportunity which was more reachable than their rematch in the coming months. In fact, Donaire showed to the world that Naoya is not the monster that everybody is afraid of. He even almost knocked him down if I can still remember it right. But I guess from their first match and their second one, Donaire must be growing a little slower and weaker.

His win would be an upset because he is the underdog at 4.20. If you are a Donaire fan, betting on moneyline is a good bet.

As a fan, that odd is really great reward if Donaire upset Inoue on this upcoming rematch.

Bookies might see the gap from all the possible advantages, though in this sport, upset is always present and fans are
mostly aiming and hoping that their pick will win.We never know how prepared Donaire in this fight, he will try everything
to be the last man standing and earn what title Inoue's holding right now.

Donaire has the power and speed so an upset victory is not a far possibility. If I were to risk my money on an upset win, I would be happy risking it for Donaire than in other fights like Tagoe and Garcia. Donaire has proven in their first match that he could defeat Naoya. He could actually defeat Naoya in their second match. This is not a one-sided fight despite the significant difference in the odds. But of course Naoya is the younger and more athletic and powerful fighter between the two.
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