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May 11, 2022, 05:15:08 PM
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He can go up in weight, win the belt and hopefully Inoue too will go up, so the clash might happen in the future.
That will happen if Casimero and Inoue will become champions in the same weight class.
As soon as Inoue is done collecting all the belts, he will be like Canelo Alvarez that will go up in weight.

But for now, Casimero will have to work his way to be the challenger to the belt. If he chooses to stay in bantam, then maybe he will be rank as number 1 so who knows, he might get crack at Butler and get back his belt. But that is base on WBO, if they still want Casimero and allow him to fight and force the hands of Butler and his management.
So much job that has to be done for Casimero, but letting go and accepting what happen is a good start.
There are many possibilities that both of them have, but I think more about a fight in the future where they have more weight, I know that Casimero's case is totally unrelated, but we have to bring them here to see the relevance of the facts that we can see if these scenarios they happen, for me it's a good thing, I always want to see good boxing, and what better than to see these sports artists, not only for me but for many fans who want to see the best, and I think that Inoue appears among the best For me he is a very complete boxer and he has a lot to give, this is really getting good.

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May 12, 2022, 01:26:18 AM
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If Nonito Donaire won this fight and the team Inoue wants a rematch, they would need to do it quickly. Donaire is getting old, as much as I love the guy as a boxer, his age will be his biggest opponent. also, if he declines (which I think he won't) a rematch from Inoue if he ever won, I'm not gonna blame him.
We will have to see what the contract between the two says, since Inoue won the previous fight if he won again I do not think there is going got be a lot of interest from the fans in watching a third edition, however if the one that wins is Donaire then I think a rematch will be possible as everyone will want to watch a third fight, and since Donaire’s age is getting to the point in which his skills could decrease then I think he would be interested in fighting immediately as well, due to the money purse a third fight could bring to both fighters.

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May 12, 2022, 01:48:11 AM
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He can go up in weight, win the belt and hopefully Inoue too will go up, so the clash might happen in the future.
That will happen if Casimero and Inoue will become champions in the same weight class.
As soon as Inoue is done collecting all the belts, he will be like Canelo Alvarez that will go up in weight.

But for now, Casimero will have to work his way to be the challenger to the belt. If he chooses to stay in bantam, then maybe he will be rank as number 1 so who knows, he might get crack at Butler and get back his belt. But that is base on WBO, if they still want Casimero and allow him to fight and force the hands of Butler and his management.
So much job that has to be done for Casimero, but letting go and accepting what happen is a good start.
There are many possibilities that both of them have, but I think more about a fight in the future where they have more weight, I know that Casimero's case is totally unrelated, but we have to bring them here to see the relevance of the facts that we can see if these scenarios they happen, for me it's a good thing, I always want to see good boxing, and what better than to see these sports artists, not only for me but for many fans who want to see the best, and I think that Inoue appears among the best For me he is a very complete boxer and he has a lot to give, this is really getting good.

I will just make it short though, Casimero is good but I wouldn't say that he is a complete fighter.

As for whoever wins between Donaire and Inoue, we all know that Inoue will be the favorite, but Donaire is the only fighter we've seen the comes close to beating him. So he still has a fighting chance it ever he plays a perfect game plan against Inoue in their fight. And if by chance Donaire wins, I think there will be a final match, a trilogy.

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May 12, 2022, 09:48:22 AM
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If Nonito Donaire won this fight and the team Inoue wants a rematch, they would need to do it quickly. Donaire is getting old, as much as I love the guy as a boxer, his age will be his biggest opponent. also, if he declines (which I think he won't) a rematch from Inoue if he ever won, I'm not gonna blame him.
We will have to see what the contract between the two says, since Inoue won the previous fight if he won again I do not think there is going got be a lot of interest from the fans in watching a third edition, however if the one that wins is Donaire then I think a rematch will be possible as everyone will want to watch a third fight, and since Donaire’s age is getting to the point in which his skills could decrease then I think he would be interested in fighting immediately as well, due to the money purse a third fight could bring to both fighters.

If Donaire wins the rematch may happen ASAP, likewise, age will really affects him much. Or his team can retire his gloves

with pride as a champion though I'm not buying the pride side since fighters nowadays are more into money, practically speaking

they will look for better paychecks instead of gaining that pride. But we never know, still depends from how this fight will end

and how both fighters will agree to whatever decision they might after.
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May 12, 2022, 09:52:38 AM
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If Nonito Donaire won this fight and the team Inoue wants a rematch, they would need to do it quickly. Donaire is getting old, as much as I love the guy as a boxer, his age will be his biggest opponent. also, if he declines (which I think he won't) a rematch from Inoue if he ever won, I'm not gonna blame him.
We will have to see what the contract between the two says, since Inoue won the previous fight if he won again I do not think there is going got be a lot of interest from the fans in watching a third edition, however if the one that wins is Donaire then I think a rematch will be possible as everyone will want to watch a third fight, and since Donaire’s age is getting to the point in which his skills could decrease then I think he would be interested in fighting immediately as well, due to the money purse a third fight could bring to both fighters.

If Donaire wins the rematch may happen ASAP, likewise, age will really affects him much. Or his team can retire his gloves

with pride as a champion though I'm not buying the pride side since fighters nowadays are more into money, practically speaking

they will look for better paychecks instead of gaining that pride. But we never know, still depends from how this fight will end

and how both fighters will agree to whatever decision they might after.

Boxing nowadays is just for money. They are now allowing exhibition match fight with pro boxer and non boxer inside the ring with officials and televise. Boxing nowadays is not the same glory compared when Pacquiao prime era below. New boxing champs are dodging each other just to maintain perfect record and also more good fighter is now entering MMA rather than boxing.

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May 12, 2022, 10:08:41 AM
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Boxing nowadays is just for money. They are now allowing exhibition match fight with pro boxer and non boxer inside the ring with officials and televise. Boxing nowadays is not the same glory compared when Pacquiao prime era below. New boxing champs are dodging each other just to maintain perfect record and also more good fighter is now entering MMA rather than boxing.

That's the sad reality, even exhibition fights can generate a lot of money, so some boxers would just choose a scripted fight as it's not too dangerous compared to the real fight. But these two, they will have a real fight and Donaire as we all know will never back down, he is always up for a challenge and will try to avenge his loss.

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May 12, 2022, 02:51:20 PM
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Boxing nowadays is just for money. They are now allowing exhibition match fight with pro boxer and non boxer inside the ring with officials and televise. Boxing nowadays is not the same glory compared when Pacquiao prime era below. New boxing champs are dodging each other just to maintain perfect record and also more good fighter is now entering MMA rather than boxing.

That's the sad reality, even exhibition fights can generate a lot of money, so some boxers would just choose a scripted fight as it's not too dangerous compared to the real fight. But these two, they will have a real fight and Donaire as we all know will never back down, he is always up for a challenge and will try to avenge his loss.

He will do that for sure. Donaire is a known warrior, though the fight now is more on the money side, but he will try to avenge his

lost and try to make more money if fate allows him to win and still have that good physical condition. Trilogy will be expected for these

two fighters, Arum, will see that as good promotions for his money making champ, a rematch can be called for a deciding trilogy between

them, it will bring a huge amount of interest that can be converted into millions of money.
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May 12, 2022, 05:35:07 PM
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Boxing nowadays is just for money. They are now allowing exhibition match fight with pro boxer and non boxer inside the ring with officials and televise. Boxing nowadays is not the same glory compared when Pacquiao prime era below. New boxing champs are dodging each other just to maintain perfect record and also more good fighter is now entering MMA rather than boxing.

That's the sad reality, even exhibition fights can generate a lot of money, so some boxers would just choose a scripted fight as it's not too dangerous compared to the real fight. But these two, they will have a real fight and Donaire as we all know will never back down, he is always up for a challenge and will try to avenge his loss.

Yup, some people can't really deny that huge amount of money offered if they decided to partake on such exhibition fights and aside from that, they can also gain more from the revenues afterwards so it's really tempting for them. But anyways, I believe Donaire is still part of those few boxers who chooses pride over money and this time if he will win, a trilogy is needed to materialize fast before he decides to retire.

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May 12, 2022, 05:40:09 PM
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Boxing nowadays is just for money. They are now allowing exhibition match fight with pro boxer and non boxer inside the ring with officials and televise. Boxing nowadays is not the same glory compared when Pacquiao prime era below. New boxing champs are dodging each other just to maintain perfect record and also more good fighter is now entering MMA rather than boxing.

That's the sad reality, even exhibition fights can generate a lot of money, so some boxers would just choose a scripted fight as it's not too dangerous compared to the real fight. But these two, they will have a real fight and Donaire as we all know will never back down, he is always up for a challenge and will try to avenge his loss.

Yup, some people can't really deny that huge amount of money offered if they decided to partake on such exhibition fights and aside from that, they can also gain more from the revenues afterwards so it's really tempting for them. But anyways, I believe Donaire is still part of those few boxers who chooses pride over money and this time if he will win, a trilogy is needed to materialize fast before he decides to retire.
For boxers who do really make out some exhibition matches then these are the ones who are already that famous or part of hall of famer considering that they could generate out lots or high interest
in terms of people or its fans which could really generate high revenue or profits for both boxers and its promoter.For Donaire then if he would able to beat up Inoue on this rematch
then it would really be likely to have a Trilogy and this is something thats more exciting rather than on seeing any exhibition joke matches.

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Boxing nowadays is just for money. They are now allowing exhibition match fight with pro boxer and non boxer inside the ring with officials and televise. Boxing nowadays is not the same glory compared when Pacquiao prime era below. New boxing champs are dodging each other just to maintain perfect record and also more good fighter is now entering MMA rather than boxing.

That's the sad reality, even exhibition fights can generate a lot of money, so some boxers would just choose a scripted fight as it's not too dangerous compared to the real fight. But these two, they will have a real fight and Donaire as we all know will never back down, he is always up for a challenge and will try to avenge his loss.

Yup, some people can't really deny that huge amount of money offered if they decided to partake on such exhibition fights and aside from that, they can also gain more from the revenues afterwards so it's really tempting for them. But anyways, I believe Donaire is still part of those few boxers who chooses pride over money and this time if he will win, a trilogy is needed to materialize fast before he decides to retire.
For boxers who do really make out some exhibition matches then these are the ones who are already that famous or part of hall of famer considering that they could generate out lots or high interest
in terms of people or its fans which could really generate high revenue or profits for both boxers and its promoter.For Donaire then if he would able to beat up Inoue on this rematch
then it would really be likely to have a Trilogy and this is something thats more exciting rather than on seeing any exhibition joke matches.
For sure, nobody would indeed want to watch the said exhibition fights if the fighters aren't that known or famous in the industry. In the past, only those retired boxers who are also famous are making these fights but now, we can see a mix of boxing and MMA wether they want to fight in the ring or octagon (not yet happened) but it is quite clear that they only wanted to make some money instead of entertaining the people and fans. Anyway back to the topic, we will see this coming June 5 if how would Donaire and Inoue adjust for the 2nd time.

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Boxing nowadays is just for money. They are now allowing exhibition match fight with pro boxer and non boxer inside the ring with officials and televise. Boxing nowadays is not the same glory compared when Pacquiao prime era below. New boxing champs are dodging each other just to maintain perfect record and also more good fighter is now entering MMA rather than boxing.

That's the sad reality, even exhibition fights can generate a lot of money, so some boxers would just choose a scripted fight as it's not too dangerous compared to the real fight. But these two, they will have a real fight and Donaire as we all know will never back down, he is always up for a challenge and will try to avenge his loss.

Yup, some people can't really deny that huge amount of money offered if they decided to partake on such exhibition fights and aside from that, they can also gain more from the revenues afterwards so it's really tempting for them. But anyways, I believe Donaire is still part of those few boxers who chooses pride over money and this time if he will win, a trilogy is needed to materialize fast before he decides to retire.
For boxers who do really make out some exhibition matches then these are the ones who are already that famous or part of hall of famer considering that they could generate out lots or high interest
in terms of people or its fans which could really generate high revenue or profits for both boxers and its promoter.For Donaire then if he would able to beat up Inoue on this rematch
then it would really be likely to have a Trilogy and this is something thats more exciting rather than on seeing any exhibition joke matches.
For sure, nobody would indeed want to watch the said exhibition fights if the fighters aren't that known or famous in the industry. In the past, only those retired boxers who are also famous are making these fights but now, we can see a mix of boxing and MMA wether they want to fight in the ring or octagon (not yet happened) but it is quite clear that they only wanted to make some money instead of entertaining the people and fans.
That's why we should support a real fight. Fans are the ones who would dictate if the fight is going to be profitable or not, and exhibition fights are profitable because people are supporting it, without our support exhibition fights will be gone.


Anyway back to the topic, we will see this coming June 5 if how would Donaire and Inoue adjust for the 2nd time.
Just less than a month and we will see this anticipated fight, hopefully Donaire is 100% fit and he can surprise the world of boxing again.
No doubt Inoue is very powerful, but experience and a big Heart, Donaire has that.

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May 13, 2022, 11:43:56 PM
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Just less than a month and we will see this anticipated fight, hopefully Donaire is 100% fit and he can surprise the world of boxing again.
No doubt Inoue is very powerful, but experience and a big Heart, Donaire has that.

Well, Donaire really should be at 100%, or else this rematch will go to waste for him.

He waited for this event for a long and needs to fight twice before getting the opportunity to fight Inoue that's why it's necessary to put all his best into the fight.

Inoue will give his 100% that's why Donaire should counter that.
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Just less than a month and we will see this anticipated fight, hopefully Donaire is 100% fit and he can surprise the world of boxing again.
No doubt Inoue is very powerful, but experience and a big Heart, Donaire has that.

Well, Donaire really should be at 100%, or else this rematch will go to waste for him.

He waited for this event for a long and needs to fight twice before getting the opportunity to fight Inoue that's why it's necessary to put all his best into the fight.

Inoue will give his 100% that's why Donaire should counter that.

Hope I will be wrong but I am seeing an easier Inoue win this time. Donaire is like fighting a younger version of himself. Young, quick and heavy handed. There level of experience is nearly at par already since Inoue is already a 3 division champion while Donaire got 4. After Canelo's defeat last weekend, The Ring magazine is rating Inoue as the number 3 pound for pound best. If my memory serves right, Donaire's highest ranking pound for pound was at number 4. 

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The Ring magazine is rating Inoue as the number 3 pound for pound best. If my memory serves right, Donaire's highest ranking pound for pound was at number 4. 
You only missed a bit, Donaire's highest rank P4P was at number 3 on 2011.
Yep the problem is that was a record on 2011, while Inoue ranked at number 3 in this year. I see this fight like Canelo vs GGG where GGG can't won against Canelo (even there's will be a trilogy), so I expect Inoue will win because of his prime, the location and also the judges. Donaire need really dominating in the ring, with his current agility now... there's a gap and wouldn't compete against Inoue.

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May 14, 2022, 11:04:27 AM
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The Ring magazine is rating Inoue as the number 3 pound for pound best. If my memory serves right, Donaire's highest ranking pound for pound was at number 4. 
You only missed a bit, Donaire's highest rank P4P was at number 3 on 2011.
Yep the problem is that was a record on 2011, while Inoue ranked at number 3 in this year. I see this fight like Canelo vs GGG where GGG can't won against Canelo (even there's will be a trilogy), so I expect Inoue will win because of his prime, the location and also the judges. Donaire need really dominating in the ring, with his current agility now... there's a gap and wouldn't compete against Inoue.

That's the problem with Donaire now he is fighting a prime Inoue so for sure he will struggle for this and  also Inoue is full of confidence as he already defeated him on his last match up. Most provably many bettor will bet on Inoue on this fight since they know that Donaire is at the peak or maybe over on his prime years.

So lets just see if we can see a good match between them here.

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The Ring magazine is rating Inoue as the number 3 pound for pound best. If my memory serves right, Donaire's highest ranking pound for pound was at number 4. 
You only missed a bit, Donaire's highest rank P4P was at number 3 on 2011.
Yep the problem is that was a record on 2011, while Inoue ranked at number 3 in this year. I see this fight like Canelo vs GGG where GGG can't won against Canelo (even there's will be a trilogy), so I expect Inoue will win because of his prime, the location and also the judges. Donaire need really dominating in the ring, with his current agility now... there's a gap and wouldn't compete against Inoue.

That's the problem with Donaire now he is fighting a prime Inoue so for sure he will struggle for this and  also Inoue is full of confidence as he already defeated him on his last match up. Most provably many bettor will bet on Inoue on this fight since they know that Donaire is at the peak or maybe over on his prime years.



He already fought Inoue in the past, so he already knows how capable Inoue is. yes, Inoue is still in his prime but Donaire also is still capable of winning, in fact, he is a champion now and therefore we have to believe that Donaire has a chance of giving Inoue his first loss.

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Boxing nowadays is just for money. They are now allowing exhibition match fight with pro boxer and non boxer inside the ring with officials and televise. Boxing nowadays is not the same glory compared when Pacquiao prime era below. New boxing champs are dodging each other just to maintain perfect record and also more good fighter is now entering MMA rather than boxing.

That's the sad reality, even exhibition fights can generate a lot of money, so some boxers would just choose a scripted fight as it's not too dangerous compared to the real fight. But these two, they will have a real fight and Donaire as we all know will never back down, he is always up for a challenge and will try to avenge his loss.

Yup, some people can't really deny that huge amount of money offered if they decided to partake on such exhibition fights and aside from that, they can also gain more from the revenues afterwards so it's really tempting for them. But anyways, I believe Donaire is still part of those few boxers who chooses pride over money and this time if he will win, a trilogy is needed to materialize fast before he decides to retire.

I have no doubt Donaire would give Inoue a chance to fight again in a trilogy. That would be a great match up and the fans can choose to bet with the odds that are fair for both fighters, I mean no more heavy favorites for sure. I can't wait to see this fight, because it's the battle of the best since Casimero is out of the conversation already.

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May 14, 2022, 02:11:34 PM
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Boxing nowadays is just for money. They are now allowing exhibition match fight with pro boxer and non boxer inside the ring with officials and televise. Boxing nowadays is not the same glory compared when Pacquiao prime era below. New boxing champs are dodging each other just to maintain perfect record and also more good fighter is now entering MMA rather than boxing.

That's the sad reality, even exhibition fights can generate a lot of money, so some boxers would just choose a scripted fight as it's not too dangerous compared to the real fight. But these two, they will have a real fight and Donaire as we all know will never back down, he is always up for a challenge and will try to avenge his loss.

Yup, some people can't really deny that huge amount of money offered if they decided to partake on such exhibition fights and aside from that, they can also gain more from the revenues afterwards so it's really tempting for them. But anyways, I believe Donaire is still part of those few boxers who chooses pride over money and this time if he will win, a trilogy is needed to materialize fast before he decides to retire.

I have no doubt Donaire would give Inoue a chance to fight again in a trilogy. That would be a great match up and the fans can choose to bet with the odds that are fair for both fighters, I mean no more heavy favorites for sure. I can't wait to see this fight, because it's the battle of the best since Casimero is out of the conversation already.
Let's focus on these two great fighter for now inoue and Donaire must trained harder and harder because this is the big fight of the year maybe. And for sure they will give us a good fight and  that's very exciting to watch.  Many people have want to see the rematch after their first fight and if these will happen too earlier for sure the crowd will be happy. And about casimero let's give him a break and let's put aside his name for now.

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May 14, 2022, 02:43:23 PM
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Let's focus on these two great fighter for now inoue and Donaire must trained harder and harder because this is the big fight of the year maybe. And for sure they will give us a good fight and  that's very exciting to watch.  Many people have want to see the rematch after their first fight and if these will happen too earlier for sure the crowd will be happy. And about casimero let's give him a break and let's put aside his name for now.


Fans and gamblers wanted to see entertainment from both fighters,

They are all willing to pay and risk a decent amount of money to see both fighters to give everything in trying to win the
fight. To do that, they needed to train well and focus in every category that they've seen the advantages and disadvantages
in this sport upset is always possible, no time to relax if you want to keep your fame and your belts.
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May 14, 2022, 05:42:03 PM
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For sure, nobody would indeed want to watch the said exhibition fights if the fighters aren't that known or famous in the industry. In the past, only those retired boxers who are also famous are making these fights but now, we can see a mix of boxing and MMA wether they want to fight in the ring or octagon (not yet happened) but it is quite clear that they only wanted to make some money instead of entertaining the people and fans.
That's why we should support a real fight. Fans are the ones who would dictate if the fight is going to be profitable or not, and exhibition fights are profitable because people are supporting it, without our support exhibition fights will be gone.

Anyway back to the topic, we will see this coming June 5 if how would Donaire and Inoue adjust for the 2nd time.

Just less than a month and we will see this anticipated fight, hopefully Donaire is 100% fit and he can surprise the world of boxing again.
No doubt Inoue is very powerful, but experience and a big Heart, Donaire has that.
It usually depends who will participate on that certain exhibition matches because if the names are tough then I think it's really that worth it to watch though then why not, right? But that's a big if for now.

Meanwhile on Donaire vs Inoue fight, I won't deny that I'm rooting so much to Donaire because I know how dedicated he was just to get this much awaited rematch, he was still testing himself if he can fight Inoue on a rematch that's why he waited and fought two boxers along the way.

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