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May 14, 2022, 09:00:07 PM
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^^ I think Donaire did a good move there, test himself if he still has it before going against Inoue for a rematch. And it did work wonders for him, we see how he knock out Ouballi with his left hook. Now he has build his confidence and believes that he can crack the Monster if they will face each other again. If he fails then at least he give his best. His left hook will still be his main weapon here and his experience.

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May 14, 2022, 09:40:43 PM
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^^ I think Donaire did a good move there, test himself if he still has it before going against Inoue for a rematch. And it did work wonders for him, we see how he knock out Ouballi with his left hook. Now he has build his confidence and believes that he can crack the Monster if they will face each other again. If he fails then at least he give his best. His left hook will still be his main weapon here and his experience.

It's not that he test himself but those fights after he lose to Inoue is part of his boxing plans. That rematch against Inoue will really come to him no matter what as long as he continues to win. Since he able to achieved an impressive 4th round TKO to both of his previous match and reclaimed a Championship title even at that age, he was recognized as a good match for Naoya Inoue.

This will be his last shot against Inoue if he loses that's why I believed he will put his all on this fight. Winning against Inoue, expect a trilogy for them.
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May 14, 2022, 09:52:43 PM
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^^ I think Donaire did a good move there, test himself if he still has it before going against Inoue for a rematch. And it did work wonders for him, we see how he knock out Ouballi with his left hook. Now he has build his confidence and believes that he can crack the Monster if they will face each other again. If he fails then at least he give his best. His left hook will still be his main weapon here and his experience.
Left hook fast counter which he's been known to be "The Flash". If he do able to land it up on a solid or most precise way then he might be having the chance on cracking up Inoue
but we know that this isnt something simple as it sounds yet Inoue does have a hard chin too.

You could really have those thoughts that this kid is fragile but with lots of fights and KO's he made then you could really say that you are wrong.
For Donaire then he had the chance but he shouldnt really be that confident still.

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May 14, 2022, 11:45:06 PM
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Meanwhile on Donaire vs Inoue fight, I won't deny that I'm rooting so much to Donaire because I know how dedicated he was just to get this much awaited rematch, he was still testing himself if he can fight Inoue on a rematch that's why he waited and fought two boxers along the way.

Honestly, I understand the distance between Naoya Inoue and Nonito Donaire. Technical analysis, the former do have a much upper hand in this fight.

But since Donaire is a PH representative, I will disregard any disadvantages for him and will root for him to win. A successful win and revenge on his loss against Inoue in their first fight will surprise everyone that age is just a number.

If Donaire won, another milestone in his career as the older boxer to unify 3 belts in a single division. Nothing wrong to hope for that. Smiley

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May 15, 2022, 01:03:26 AM
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But since Donaire is a PH representative, I will disregard any disadvantages for him and will root for him to win. A successful win and revenge on his loss against Inoue in their first fight will surprise everyone that age is just a number.
Well, his back to back wins by knockout after his defeat to Inoue just shows that he's still one of the top boxer and age is not a hindrance to win the fight.

Their undisputed fight last 2019 is one of the best that I've seen, thus this rematch that many fans have been waiting is an event that we should not missed.

Im also hoping for Donaire to win this time and if this happened its possible they will have a rematch once again.

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May 15, 2022, 02:08:34 AM
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But since Donaire is a PH representative, I will disregard any disadvantages for him and will root for him to win. A successful win and revenge on his loss against Inoue in their first fight will surprise everyone that age is just a number.

If Donaire won, another milestone in his career as the older boxer to unify 3 belts in a single division. Nothing wrong to hope for that. Smiley
I'm afraid tho, coz inoue previous fight ended in body punch again like what happen to donaire and as the matter of fact most of his fight always ended the same. so donaire need to be careful and to improve his footwork to prevent body punches, coz inoue is really a monster.
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May 15, 2022, 03:21:01 AM
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But since Donaire is a PH representative, I will disregard any disadvantages for him and will root for him to win. A successful win and revenge on his loss against Inoue in their first fight will surprise everyone that age is just a number.

If Donaire won, another milestone in his career as the older boxer to unify 3 belts in a single division. Nothing wrong to hope for that. Smiley
I'm afraid tho, coz inoue previous fight ended in body punch again like what happen to donaire and as the matter of fact most of his fight always ended the same. so donaire need to be careful and to improve his footwork to prevent body punches, coz inoue is really a monster.

I haven't seen Donaire though being knock down or knock out by a body punch. And he himself is a good body puncher as well, to setup his shot upstairs. If Inoue sees a body opening, he will take it. But I doubt that Donaire will give him that opportunity because Donaire is more of a timing fighter. He read his opponents next move and then perfect counter with his left.

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May 15, 2022, 09:36:54 AM
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^^ I think Donaire did a good move there, test himself if he still has it before going against Inoue for a rematch. And it did work wonders for him, we see how he knock out Ouballi with his left hook. Now he has build his confidence and believes that he can crack the Monster if they will face each other again. If he fails then at least he give his best. His left hook will still be his main weapon here and his experience.
Left hook fast counter which he's been known to be "The Flash". If he do able to land it up on a solid or most precise way then he might be having the chance on cracking up Inoue
but we know that this isnt something simple as it sounds yet Inoue does have a hard chin too.

You could really have those thoughts that this kid is fragile but with lots of fights and KO's he made then you could really say that you are wrong.
For Donaire then he had the chance but he shouldnt really be that confident still.
He already understand how tough Inoue was. He did land some solid punches in him the last time they fought.

But like what you said, Inoue has a hard chin, and that's the thing Donaire needs to work out, train more and look for any possible
combination to exposed Inoue, and most of all, he needs a longer stamina, personally that's the thing that he needs to improve
power punches are still there even he's not on his prime anymore, but if luck permits him to convert, Inoue may fall and lose this rematch.
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May 15, 2022, 11:58:14 AM
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^^ I think Donaire did a good move there, test himself if he still has it before going against Inoue for a rematch. And it did work wonders for him, we see how he knock out Ouballi with his left hook. Now he has build his confidence and believes that he can crack the Monster if they will face each other again. If he fails then at least he give his best. His left hook will still be his main weapon here and his experience.
Left hook fast counter which he's been known to be "The Flash". If he do able to land it up on a solid or most precise way then he might be having the chance on cracking up Inoue
but we know that this isnt something simple as it sounds yet Inoue does have a hard chin too.

You could really have those thoughts that this kid is fragile but with lots of fights and KO's he made then you could really say that you are wrong.
For Donaire then he had the chance but he shouldnt really be that confident still.
He already understand how tough Inoue was. He did land some solid punches in him the last time they fought.

But like what you said, Inoue has a hard chin, and that's the thing Donaire needs to work out, train more and look for any possible
combination to exposed Inoue, and most of all, he needs a longer stamina, personally that's the thing that he needs to improve
power punches are still there even he's not on his prime anymore, but if luck permits him to convert, Inoue may fall and lose this rematch.

He is a monster,  the name itself tells us that he is not only good offensively but the is also tough when it comes to defense. It was Inoue's defense that made him win on their first encounter, he made an adjustment, and that made him dominate Inoue in the later rounds.

I like to see an early KO or upset by Donaire, but I think the chance of it happening is quite low.

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May 15, 2022, 12:33:47 PM
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I like to see an early KO or upset by Donaire, but I think the chance of it happening is quite low.

Well, actually if you believe that Donaire will win in this match, that kind of scenario should happen in the fight. No way Donaire will win if the fight goes to the judges' scorecard, he won't last 12 rounds having the same power he has in the early round as Inoue is faster than him, so Donaire will be exhausted.

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May 16, 2022, 03:36:08 PM
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I like to see an early KO or upset by Donaire, but I think the chance of it happening is quite low.

Well, actually if you believe that Donaire will win in this match, that kind of scenario should happen in the fight. No way Donaire will win if the fight goes to the judges' scorecard, he won't last 12 rounds having the same power he has in the early round as Inoue is faster than him, so Donaire will be exhausted.

I also believe in that scenario, if he can pull the trigger and KO Inoue it should be on the earlier round, just like what happened last time

he did tried to box Inoue but the monster manage to take all those solid punches. In the last few rounds of the fight, Donaire loses his stamina

and that's the cue for Inoue to start throwing solid punches and take advantage of the slowness of Donaire. Hope not to see the same thing,

and the camp of Donaire already got good strategy to win this one.
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May 16, 2022, 09:39:31 PM
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I like to see an early KO or upset by Donaire, but I think the chance of it happening is quite low.

Well, actually if you believe that Donaire will win in this match, that kind of scenario should happen in the fight. No way Donaire will win if the fight goes to the judges' scorecard, he won't last 12 rounds having the same power he has in the early round as Inoue is faster than him, so Donaire will be exhausted.
You can really see that Donaire gassed out on later rounds which it is really that too obvious that his stamina isnt really as good as inoue which is really that noticeable.If he works out on that one plus
having some changes on his counterpunching then i do really see that he had some chance on beating or pulling some upset with Inoue but of course this isnt something simple as it sounds
yet Inoue would really be trying out to enhance more on what he had lacked on that previous fight or encounter against Donaire.So both are really preparing to overcome their flaws.

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May 16, 2022, 11:18:07 PM
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Well, actually if you believe that Donaire will win in this match, that kind of scenario should happen in the fight. No way Donaire will win if the fight goes to the judges' scorecard, he won't last 12 rounds having the same power he has in the early round as Inoue is faster than him, so Donaire will be exhausted.

Actually, that's my concern - stamina.

Remember in their first fight, Donaire gives early heavy damage to Inoue and almost a possible Knock Out if Donaire was able to pin him down more. However, the Japanese monsters take time to recover and grab the late rounds. Since he is much younger, Inoue has more stamina and does some quiet safety moves after the heavy blows he received from Donaire.

And since the fight is now taking too long, both fighters are now exhausted but more noticeably with Donaire which is obvious why. I'm sure Donaire is working on his stamina since then but it's just that, Naoya really has lots of it.

I even have a concern right after the announcement of their rematch that the event will take place in the same arena they fought first. I mean, they already fight there in favor of the Japanese crowd, why set it up again on the advantage of the monster. And then I remember way back to the peak of the pandemic that Inoue's camp is willing not to have a fight unless it will be on his country. That's why I like Donaire to win this fight in front of Inoue's home crowd.

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May 16, 2022, 11:27:09 PM
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I like to see an early KO or upset by Donaire, but I think the chance of it happening is quite low.

Well, actually if you believe that Donaire will win in this match, that kind of scenario should happen in the fight. No way Donaire will win if the fight goes to the judges' scorecard, he won't last 12 rounds having the same power he has in the early round as Inoue is faster than him, so Donaire will be exhausted.
You can really see that Donaire gassed out on later rounds which it is really that too obvious that his stamina isnt really as good as inoue which is really that noticeable.If he works out on that one plus
having some changes on his counterpunching then i do really see that he had some chance on beating or pulling some upset with Inoue but of course this isnt something simple as it sounds
yet Inoue would really be trying out to enhance more on what he had lacked on that previous fight or encounter against Donaire.So both are really preparing to overcome their flaws.
They're both aware of their flaws and they surely would do something to strengthen that flaw that might be used against them. The preparation of these two will be heavier than what they've prepared in the past for their first match. We all want Donaire to set a KO so that his first lose would be covered up by his victory via KO. I hope that it's not just a wishful thinking that will never happen but it becomes a reality that has to happen unexpectedly.

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May 16, 2022, 11:47:34 PM
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I like to see an early KO or upset by Donaire, but I think the chance of it happening is quite low.

Well, actually if you believe that Donaire will win in this match, that kind of scenario should happen in the fight. No way Donaire will win if the fight goes to the judges' scorecard, he won't last 12 rounds having the same power he has in the early round as Inoue is faster than him, so Donaire will be exhausted.
You can really see that Donaire gassed out on later rounds which it is really that too obvious that his stamina isnt really as good as inoue which is really that noticeable.If he works out on that one plus
having some changes on his counterpunching then i do really see that he had some chance on beating or pulling some upset with Inoue but of course this isnt something simple as it sounds
yet Inoue would really be trying out to enhance more on what he had lacked on that previous fight or encounter against Donaire.So both are really preparing to overcome their flaws.
They're both aware of their flaws and they surely would do something to strengthen that flaw that might be used against them. The preparation of these two will be heavier than what they've prepared in the past for their first match. We all want Donaire to set a KO so that his first lose would be covered up by his victory via KO. I hope that it's not just a wishful thinking that will never happen but it becomes a reality that has to happen unexpectedly.
Could happen or could not and it would really be depending on whose fighter/boxer is much more better and since we do already have idea on how they do perform or fight on that first encounter then we could
really be having those presumptions about on some upset if Donaire would really be doing better for this rematch but for sure Inoue is already prepared for some changes or some sort.
If Donaire would win then possible there's a Trilogy yet of course there would really be some demand for this fight yet its remain unsettled until its proven
on whose the better boxer but well it is really just too far off for us to discuss on.

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May 16, 2022, 11:54:33 PM
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Donaire was the good body puncher with his own strategy. If Inoue had give him some time,surely Donaire will made huge body punch with him. He is scorer with the body punches. The maximum punches on the matches , will allow him to get good points in the table. The same was happened with the Inoue. Donaire will give a body punch on his opponent with the correct time is his unique.
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May 17, 2022, 01:52:34 AM
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Donaire was the good body puncher with his own strategy. If Inoue had give him some time,surely Donaire will made huge body punch with him. He is scorer with the body punches. The maximum punches on the matches , will allow him to get good points in the table. The same was happened with the Inoue. Donaire will give a body punch on his opponent with the correct time is his unique.

Donaire though is not known to crack his opponents with body punch. Sure he utilizes this one to setup, but his main weapon was his left hook that put a lot of champions into sleep in this career.

Inoue is more of a body puncher for me than Donaire, but we haven't seen Donaire getting knock out by body shots, he seems to absorb his very well. So I don't think that Donaire will be going to the body punch here, it will still be his bread and butter left hook that will make or break the fight for him.

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May 17, 2022, 06:05:32 AM
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I like to see an early KO or upset by Donaire, but I think the chance of it happening is quite low.

Well, actually if you believe that Donaire will win in this match, that kind of scenario should happen in the fight. No way Donaire will win if the fight goes to the judges' scorecard, he won't last 12 rounds having the same power he has in the early round as Inoue is faster than him, so Donaire will be exhausted.
You can really see that Donaire gassed out on later rounds which it is really that too obvious that his stamina isnt really as good as inoue which is really that noticeable.If he works out on that one plus
having some changes on his counterpunching then i do really see that he had some chance on beating or pulling some upset with Inoue but of course this isnt something simple as it sounds
yet Inoue would really be trying out to enhance more on what he had lacked on that previous fight or encounter against Donaire.So both are really preparing to overcome their flaws.
They're both aware of their flaws and they surely would do something to strengthen that flaw that might be used against them. The preparation of these two will be heavier than what they've prepared in the past for their first match. We all want Donaire to set a KO so that his first lose would be covered up by his victory via KO. I hope that it's not just a wishful thinking that will never happen but it becomes a reality that has to happen unexpectedly.
And that's why Donaire really doesn't want the fight to last 12 rounds because he for sure he will gas out. And in his previous 2 fights, it didn't last long so we think that Donaire is really back in his old form. But also during his prime, he has some close 12 round wins. Not sure if you guys watch him fight Cesar Juarez because that's one of a fight for Donaire and he did survived the onslaught of the Mexican boxer. But still his gas think will be in question here.

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May 17, 2022, 02:45:28 PM
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And that's why Donaire really doesn't want the fight to last 12 rounds because he for sure he will gas out. And in his previous 2 fights, it didn't last long so we think that Donaire is really back in his old form. But also during his prime, he has some close 12 round wins. Not sure if you guys watch him fight Cesar Juarez because that's one of a fight for Donaire and he did survived the onslaught of the Mexican boxer. But still his gas think will be in question here.

He knows his limitation, he is not getting any younger, and although he still has the power his stamina is not as good as when he was still younger. Inoue is on his prime, it's a tough opponent by Donaire, it's just good that he won his last fight so he will be more confident facing his fellow champ in this division.

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I like to see an early KO or upset by Donaire, but I think the chance of it happening is quite low.

Well, actually if you believe that Donaire will win in this match, that kind of scenario should happen in the fight. No way Donaire will win if the fight goes to the judges' scorecard, he won't last 12 rounds having the same power he has in the early round as Inoue is faster than him, so Donaire will be exhausted.

I also believe in that scenario, if he can pull the trigger and KO Inoue it should be on the earlier round, just like what happened last time

he did tried to box Inoue but the monster manage to take all those solid punches. In the last few rounds of the fight, Donaire loses his stamina

and that's the cue for Inoue to start throwing solid punches and take advantage of the slowness of Donaire. Hope not to see the same thing,

and the camp of Donaire already got good strategy to win this one.
I surely hope so that Donaire have another strategy this time because he should know that getting into a toe-to-toe fight with Inoue is certainly not a good idea at all. I think his only choice is to pull a KO on the early rounds so that his chances to defeat the latter will somehow increase and be smart not to exhaust all stamina and energy he needed in the following rounds of the fight because that is where the monster will go for him just like in the last fight.

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