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May 30, 2022, 01:43:57 PM
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There are reports that Donaire will have a special guest in Japan when he goes and fight Inoue, this is according to Rachel's Donaire's social media post.

But everyone is speculating that it will be Casimero who will be in ring side. Not sure what is the intention is, maybe they just want to throw off Inoue as both of them have been trash talking and have been in the radar.

I don't see something special here so I don't understand why others take this as a big deal.

If it's really Casimero, why should we think if there's an intention? He just wants to watch the fight, that's it. Anyhow, he is connected to these both boxers and since there's a slim chance for Casimero to fight one of them, he will just watch the show.

Not unless he will step in on the show and announce something, that is the intention. Cheesy

so the issue between casimero and donaire was all water under the bridge now. remember, their match did not happen because of the drama surrounding donaire's wife. and now rachel was announcing about the special guest. i don't think that's casimero. i have the feeling that it may be pacquiao, a special guest to watch this fight.
but in any case, it doesn't matter. what matters here is how prepared is donaire for this fight? this may be the deciding fight for him if he will finally hang up the gloves or not.

I will buy that compared to Casimero, Pacquiao has a much higher impact not only for Pinoy fans but if he will fly alongside with Donaire

that something and for sure the fans not only from Pinoy community but also the fans from Japan will be excited seeing him watching the fight.

The election is already over and he's now a private person after losing his bet to become the head chief of the Philippines. Time to enjoy now.

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May 30, 2022, 01:45:35 PM
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Exactly mate, there's no telling yet if Donaire could really upset the monster of Japan this time in their rematch. I mean if he got some improvements now and he's not like the old Donaire whom Inoue defeated last time then the latter has some improvements too and Inoue's gotten better as he's also not the Inoue whom Donaire have faced before. That's also why Donaire is still the underdog in this bout.

Right! both evolves and even Donaire showcase better strategy and form we don't know how Inoue will prepare for it, we can't say who's going to be in the advantage position here, its boxing and upset is really possible, one careless action can lead to lose the fight. We will see more updates with these two known champs.

if you are a gambler, betting to whoever you think will out-stand his opponent can already be posted now, though if you want to see
more live action before deciding. Live bets are also good to consider.

Exactly, that is why Donaire's chances didn't increase that much because his opponent, Inoue have some explosives with him and improvement too. Time has passed and we can't honestly say that there won't be improvements at all especially Inoue who's more younger and versatile. Nonetheless, this will be a nice event to watch as it would be full packed and as of now, betting on Donaire is more profitable.

Betting on him as underdog if luck permits will provide a very decent amount of benefits, it's a matter on how you love the man and how you look forward from his revenge, if he can take down Inoue that will really something to watch out, maybe a trio will happen and more money will be on the table from these two champions, we can't say or conclude as early as now but since we are assuming that both fighters will impress the fans, a toe-to-toe fight will be more exciting to expect.



True, though Inoue has the edge here Donaire will certainly prepare himself for this big fight, the odds are good for him, so it's nice to back him to win. Inoue thus far has already faced his toughest opponent, and that's no other than Donaire, and although Donaire lost in the first fight, I would still trust him in the rematch because he has a big heart and he finished the fight trying his best to win.

I think their huge difference is the speed with power and also the stamina that can last long every round. It would be a game-changer if Donaire won this upcoming fight. And, I am very excited to see how Donaire improve these past years after their fight.

Seeing each other's training before the match really gets exciting and the good thing is that they are very respectfull to each other.

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May 30, 2022, 03:47:50 PM
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There are reports that Donaire will have a special guest in Japan when he goes and fight Inoue, this is according to Rachel's Donaire's social media post.

But everyone is speculating that it will be Casimero who will be in ring side. Not sure what is the intention is, maybe they just want to throw off Inoue as both of them have been trash talking and have been in the radar.

I don't see something special here so I don't understand why others take this as a big deal.

If it's really Casimero, why should we think if there's an intention? He just wants to watch the fight, that's it. Anyhow, he is connected to these both boxers and since there's a slim chance for Casimero to fight one of them, he will just watch the show.

Not unless he will step in on the show and announce something, that is the intention. Cheesy

so the issue between casimero and donaire was all water under the bridge now. remember, their match did not happen because of the drama surrounding donaire's wife. and now rachel was announcing about the special guest. i don't think that's casimero. i have the feeling that it may be pacquiao, a special guest to watch this fight.
but in any case, it doesn't matter. what matters here is how prepared is donaire for this fight? this may be the deciding fight for him if he will finally hang up the gloves or not.

Sadly but that's the truth for Casimero for now, he may be a champion but on his status, getting a fight against Inoue or Donaire becomes more slimmer as time goes by. He almost had a chance when he got a 2nd chance with Butler but Casimero and his team blew it off.

Back to Inoue and Donaire, I don't have issues on how prepared is the latter. In fact, I believe that he's more than ready for this rematch now. But the real question is, can he defeat Inoue? Both of them have improved but can Donaire's body manage the catastrophe that the monster of Japan could bring.

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May 30, 2022, 04:16:08 PM
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Back to Inoue and Donaire, I don't have issues on how prepared is the latter. In fact, I believe that he's more than ready for this rematch now.
That's what Donaire said in an interview, he said he is better in the 2nd fight because he already saw what Inoue could do against him.
In this rematch, all he need to do is to make an adjustment and make sure he will not gassed out if the fight will again to go distance.

But the real question is, can he defeat Inoue? Both of them have improved but can Donaire's body manage the catastrophe that the monster of Japan could bring.
No one knows, as per betting odds, Inoue is really the heavy favorites here, so if we based on that, Donaire's chance to beat Inoue is very slim.

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May 30, 2022, 04:24:04 PM
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Exactly mate, there's no telling yet if Donaire could really upset the monster of Japan this time in their rematch. I mean if he got some improvements now and he's not like the old Donaire whom Inoue defeated last time then the latter has some improvements too and Inoue's gotten better as he's also not the Inoue whom Donaire have faced before. That's also why Donaire is still the underdog in this bout.

Right! both evolves and even Donaire showcase better strategy and form we don't know how Inoue will prepare for it, we can't say who's going to be in the advantage position here, its boxing and upset is really possible, one careless action can lead to lose the fight. We will see more updates with these two known champs.

if you are a gambler, betting to whoever you think will out-stand his opponent can already be posted now, though if you want to see
more live action before deciding. Live bets are also good to consider.

Exactly, that is why Donaire's chances didn't increase that much because his opponent, Inoue have some explosives with him and improvement too. Time has passed and we can't honestly say that there won't be improvements at all especially Inoue who's more younger and versatile. Nonetheless, this will be a nice event to watch as it would be full packed and as of now, betting on Donaire is more profitable.

Betting on him as underdog if luck permits will provide a very decent amount of benefits, it's a matter on how you love the man and how you look forward from his revenge, if he can take down Inoue that will really something to watch out, maybe a trio will happen and more money will be on the table from these two champions, we can't say or conclude as early as now but since we are assuming that both fighters will impress the fans, a toe-to-toe fight will be more exciting to expect.



True, though Inoue has the edge here Donaire will certainly prepare himself for this big fight, the odds are good for him, so it's nice to back him to win. Inoue thus far has already faced his toughest opponent, and that's no other than Donaire, and although Donaire lost in the first fight, I would still trust him in the rematch because he has a big heart and he finished the fight trying his best to win.

I think their huge difference is the speed with power and also the stamina that can last long every round. It would be a game-changer if Donaire won this upcoming fight. And, I am very excited to see how Donaire improve these past years after their fight.

Seeing each other's training before the match really gets exciting and the good thing is that they are very respectfull to each other.
In terms of speed and power, I have no doubt Donaire can match and keep up with Inoue. But that's only best for early rounds that is why we were speculating that he might go all out in the early rounds and try to give a succesful blow to the latter or KO him out because if the fight will go to more than 8 rounds, his stamina will deplete and that will affect his speed and power.

Slowly by slowly, that will be his disadvantage. He cannot deny that even though he's really prepared because his body ain't young anymore.

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May 30, 2022, 05:36:32 PM
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Back to Inoue and Donaire, I don't have issues on how prepared is the latter. In fact, I believe that he's more than ready for this rematch now.
That's what Donaire said in an interview, he said he is better in the 2nd fight because he already saw what Inoue could do against him.
In this rematch, all he need to do is to make an adjustment and make sure he will not gassed out if the fight will again to go distance.

But the real question is, can he defeat Inoue? Both of them have improved but can Donaire's body manage the catastrophe that the monster of Japan could bring.
No one knows, as per betting odds, Inoue is really the heavy favorites here, so if we based on that, Donaire's chance to beat Inoue is very slim.

this would be interesting if this will be another great upset in the boxing history. inoue has the young blood here but we can't ignore donaire's skills and experience.  now, we will see if donaire's strategy will work on inoue. as he said, he already experienced inoue inside the ring so he knew now where to adjust. but this will be the same for inoue. so this is the battle of strategies then...

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May 30, 2022, 11:36:54 PM
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Back to Inoue and Donaire, I don't have issues on how prepared is the latter. In fact, I believe that he's more than ready for this rematch now.
That's what Donaire said in an interview, he said he is better in the 2nd fight because he already saw what Inoue could do against him.
In this rematch, all he need to do is to make an adjustment and make sure he will not gassed out if the fight will again to go distance.

But the real question is, can he defeat Inoue? Both of them have improved but can Donaire's body manage the catastrophe that the monster of Japan could bring.
No one knows, as per betting odds, Inoue is really the heavy favorites here, so if we based on that, Donaire's chance to beat Inoue is very slim.

this would be interesting if this will be another great upset in the boxing history. inoue has the young blood here but we can't ignore donaire's skills and experience.  now, we will see if donaire's strategy will work on inoue. as he said, he already experienced inoue inside the ring so he knew now where to adjust. but this will be the same for inoue. so this is the battle of strategies then...
Yeah, probably Inoue will used his experience in this fight. And as you have said, they have fought once already and he knows what Inoue can bring in the table. So he will adjust and will try to remember Inoue's weaknesses if he found one in the first fight and try to exploit it in the rematch. Maybe Donaire will really target the chin of Inoue and test it out and if he damages it again like the one he did on the first fight then possible that Inoue might be weaken if he feels the pain of a broken bone in this face specially if Donaire can get to it at early rounds.

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May 30, 2022, 11:47:05 PM
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Back to Inoue and Donaire, I don't have issues on how prepared is the latter. In fact, I believe that he's more than ready for this rematch now. But the real question is, can he defeat Inoue?

According to Donaire, he is confident that he can now take down and deal with Inoue.

Well, as for any boxers, if the question asked to them is about their status of the fight, they will surely answer that they are prepared.

From what I see of Donaire, he knows very well the strategy to beat Inoue but the question is, how he will apply those strategies in the actual fight as that wasn't easy to unleash without meeting some certain factors.

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May 31, 2022, 12:29:08 PM
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Back to Inoue and Donaire, I don't have issues on how prepared is the latter. In fact, I believe that he's more than ready for this rematch now. But the real question is, can he defeat Inoue?

According to Donaire, he is confident that he can now take down and deal with Inoue.

Well, as for any boxers, if the question asked to them is about their status of the fight, they will surely answer that they are prepared.

From what I see of Donaire, he knows very well the strategy to beat Inoue but the question is, how he will apply those strategies in the actual fight as that wasn't easy to unleash without meeting some certain factors.

That's right, no boxer would say that he cannot beat his opponent, even the heavy underdog fighter would think that way. That's what we called confidence, but in the ring, it is the better fighter that will always win the fight and I think Donaire has a chance to upset the monster Inoue.

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May 31, 2022, 12:53:29 PM
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Back to Inoue and Donaire, I don't have issues on how prepared is the latter. In fact, I believe that he's more than ready for this rematch now. But the real question is, can he defeat Inoue?

According to Donaire, he is confident that he can now take down and deal with Inoue.

Well, as for any boxers, if the question asked to them is about their status of the fight, they will surely answer that they are prepared.

From what I see of Donaire, he knows very well the strategy to beat Inoue but the question is, how he will apply those strategies in the actual fight as that wasn't easy to unleash without meeting some certain factors.
In terms of strength indeed he must be completely sure of his strength because this can also be a precursor to his current spirit but the problem is that things like this are sometimes different from words and actions later.
Indeed, in this case I have high hopes for Donaire but on the other hand Inoue is still very strong in my opinion and indeed this is still unpredictable even though Donaire is highly favored

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May 31, 2022, 03:26:01 PM
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Back to Inoue and Donaire, I don't have issues on how prepared is the latter. In fact, I believe that he's more than ready for this rematch now. But the real question is, can he defeat Inoue?

According to Donaire, he is confident that he can now take down and deal with Inoue.

Well, as for any boxers, if the question asked to them is about their status of the fight, they will surely answer that they are prepared.

From what I see of Donaire, he knows very well the strategy to beat Inoue but the question is, how he will apply those strategies in the actual fight as that wasn't easy to unleash without meeting some certain factors.
In terms of strength indeed he must be completely sure of his strength because this can also be a precursor to his current spirit but the problem is that things like this are sometimes different from words and actions later.
Indeed, in this case I have high hopes for Donaire but on the other hand Inoue is still very strong in my opinion and indeed this is still unpredictable even though Donaire is highly favored

I disagree, Inoue is the one who's favored and in fact he's the favorite to win among the sports bookies but again, that's not a guarantee that Inoue is the one who will surely win because an upset can always happen anytime including this fight. As for Donaire, I know he have some strategies in mind for how to counter Inoue's movement but the latter also have those techniques too about countering Donaire's movement.

Both of them surely knows each other's weaknesses and strengths. It's a matter of who can put that successful blow first and who will be the one to exhaust first.

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May 31, 2022, 08:25:06 PM
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Back to Inoue and Donaire, I don't have issues on how prepared is the latter. In fact, I believe that he's more than ready for this rematch now. But the real question is, can he defeat Inoue?

According to Donaire, he is confident that he can now take down and deal with Inoue.

Well, as for any boxers, if the question asked to them is about their status of the fight, they will surely answer that they are prepared.

From what I see of Donaire, he knows very well the strategy to beat Inoue but the question is, how he will apply those strategies in the actual fight as that wasn't easy to unleash without meeting some certain factors.
In terms of strength indeed he must be completely sure of his strength because this can also be a precursor to his current spirit but the problem is that things like this are sometimes different from words and actions later.
Indeed, in this case I have high hopes for Donaire but on the other hand Inoue is still very strong in my opinion and indeed this is still unpredictable even though Donaire is highly favored

I disagree, Inoue is the one who's favored and in fact he's the favorite to win among the sports bookies but again, that's not a guarantee that Inoue is the one who will surely win because an upset can always happen anytime including this fight. As for Donaire, I know he have some strategies in mind for how to counter Inoue's movement but the latter also have those techniques too about countering Donaire's movement.

Both of them surely knows each other's weaknesses and strengths. It's a matter of who can put that successful blow first and who will be the one to exhaust first.
Donaire is surely prepared or cooking up something in regarding with his counter punches and since he does have experience on fighting Inoue then he do knows on what to do but of course

Inoue would made out some adjustments as well and be preparing on what would come. Upsets could really happen thats why this fight is something interesting to watch.

Possible trilogy? Yes but lets see on how this rematch turns or results out.
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May 31, 2022, 11:41:15 PM
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Both of them surely knows each other's weaknesses and strengths. It's a matter of who can put that successful blow first and who will be the one to exhaust first.

Since they both have experience in fighting each other, and they both received serious injuries during the fight, they are well aware of what things need to do once they faced again in the ring. And to add to that, since they know well each other, their offensive strategy might not be followed properly but instead, they will mostly apply their defensive strategy.

Inoue got his first bloodied damage in the 2nd round. Here in the upcoming fight, he will now avoid that to happened and will focus on his defense.

Donaire got started being dominated by Inoue in the later rounds because of his stamina. Here in the upcoming fight, he will also try to avoid that to happened and will do everything to dominate Inoue in the early rounds.

That was just some of the scenarios I'm thinking of.
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May 31, 2022, 11:51:21 PM
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Possible trilogy? Yes but lets see on how this rematch turns or results out.

The trilogy is the automatic next event for these two only if Nonito Donaire will win the rematch, obviously. There's no other fight that should happen next aside from a trilogy if Donaire was able to upset the heavy Japanese favorite Naoya Inoue.

It needs to be decided on the trilogy if the rematch results in 1-1 standing.

Of course, in the event Donaire loses in this rematch, no trilogy will happen and Inoue might now move up a weight class to face new challenges there.
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Possible trilogy? Yes but lets see on how this rematch turns or results out.

The trilogy is the automatic next event for these two only if Nonito Donaire will win the rematch, obviously. There's no other fight that should happen next aside from a trilogy if Donaire was able to upset the heavy Japanese favorite Naoya Inoue.

It needs to be decided on the trilogy if the rematch results in 1-1 standing.

Of course, in the event Donaire loses in this rematch, no trilogy will happen and Inoue might now move up a weight class to face new challenges there.
Yeah, its already understandable that trilogy would happen if ever Donaire would pull some win on this rematch but it would really be just like on breaking a huge and tall wall on defeating Inoue.
The day is getting closer and for sure they are making out preparations for this upcoming fight just like always.The better the boxer the one who would win up this match.
I cant just believe that Casimero wont be the one will be fighting due to those shit things happened to him.  Grin

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June 01, 2022, 03:15:34 AM
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Back to Inoue and Donaire, I don't have issues on how prepared is the latter. In fact, I believe that he's more than ready for this rematch now. But the real question is, can he defeat Inoue?

According to Donaire, he is confident that he can now take down and deal with Inoue.

Well, as for any boxers, if the question asked to them is about their status of the fight, they will surely answer that they are prepared.

From what I see of Donaire, he knows very well the strategy to beat Inoue but the question is, how he will apply those strategies in the actual fight as that wasn't easy to unleash without meeting some certain factors.
In terms of strength indeed he must be completely sure of his strength because this can also be a precursor to his current spirit but the problem is that things like this are sometimes different from words and actions later.
Indeed, in this case I have high hopes for Donaire but on the other hand Inoue is still very strong in my opinion and indeed this is still unpredictable even though Donaire is highly favored

I disagree, Inoue is the one who's favored and in fact he's the favorite to win among the sports bookies but again, that's not a guarantee that Inoue is the one who will surely win because an upset can always happen anytime including this fight. As for Donaire, I know he have some strategies in mind for how to counter Inoue's movement but the latter also have those techniques too about countering Donaire's movement.

Both of them surely knows each other's weaknesses and strengths. It's a matter of who can put that successful blow first and who will be the one to exhaust first.
I want to bet with Donaire with this one because of his performance against Oubali but I think Inoue is just another boxer.
If you watch their first fight, Inoue is very agile, very fast and strong counter puncher.

Like you said though, upsets can happen and we've seen many fights already that ended up as an upset. I'm curious on how Donaire will bounce back after losing with him in the first fight. If I will predict with what will happen with this one, I think it will be a split decision to Inoue but I will not be surprised if an upset will happen. Smiley

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June 01, 2022, 05:45:03 AM
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Back to Inoue and Donaire, I don't have issues on how prepared is the latter. In fact, I believe that he's more than ready for this rematch now. But the real question is, can he defeat Inoue?

According to Donaire, he is confident that he can now take down and deal with Inoue.

Well, as for any boxers, if the question asked to them is about their status of the fight, they will surely answer that they are prepared.

From what I see of Donaire, he knows very well the strategy to beat Inoue but the question is, how he will apply those strategies in the actual fight as that wasn't easy to unleash without meeting some certain factors.
In terms of strength indeed he must be completely sure of his strength because this can also be a precursor to his current spirit but the problem is that things like this are sometimes different from words and actions later.
Indeed, in this case I have high hopes for Donaire but on the other hand Inoue is still very strong in my opinion and indeed this is still unpredictable even though Donaire is highly favored

Donaire is not highly favored in this fight. Bookies have Inoue, he is 4:1 or close to 5:1 to win this fight. Although we have been talking about Donaire's strength and his supposedly new strategy, we can only speculate what it could be. I guess it will boil down as to who will land that knock out punch. I don't want to see this fight going into distance though. Much better if someone will get knock out, so that there will be no controversies. If Donaire wins, then a trilogy is needed. If Naoya scores a knock out, then we know who is the best bantamweight.

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June 01, 2022, 01:35:09 PM
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Donaire is not highly favored in this fight. Bookies have Inoue, he is 4:1 or close to 5:1 to win this fight. Although we have been talking about Donaire's strength and his supposedly new strategy, we can only speculate what it could be. I guess it will boil down as to who will land that knock out punch. I don't want to see this fight going into distance though. Much better if someone will get knock out, so that there will be no controversies. If Donaire wins, then a trilogy is needed. If Naoya scores a knock out, then we know who is the best bantamweight.

It's the best outcome for me too. I would like to see Donaire though, thinking that upset is still possible even Inoue is the favorite

and there are many factors that bookies choose from him. But, we also need to consider that with a perfect timing Donaire can throw a good combo

and win this match. Adjustment over one another, both fighters already taste the power punch of each other and surely they will not let that

kind of conversion to happen, they will try harder to win the belt.
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Donaire is not highly favored in this fight. Bookies have Inoue, he is 4:1 or close to 5:1 to win this fight. Although we have been talking about Donaire's strength and his supposedly new strategy, we can only speculate what it could be. I guess it will boil down as to who will land that knock out punch. I don't want to see this fight going into distance though. Much better if someone will get knock out, so that there will be no controversies. If Donaire wins, then a trilogy is needed. If Naoya scores a knock out, then we know who is the best bantamweight.

It's the best outcome for me too. I would like to see Donaire though, thinking that upset is still possible even Inoue is the favorite

and there are many factors that bookies choose from him. But, we also need to consider that with a perfect timing Donaire can throw a good combo

and win this match. Adjustment over one another, both fighters already taste the power punch of each other and surely they will not let that

kind of conversion to happen, they will try harder to win the belt.

Donaire has to make an adjustment, we want to see a big upset in this fight because if he beat Inoue, he will be the undisputed champion before he retires. It's only Inoue who is his toughest opponent, so if he can beat him, things would be easier for him to achieve his dream to be an undisputed champion.

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June 01, 2022, 02:23:16 PM
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Yeah, its already understandable that trilogy would happen if ever Donaire would pull some win on this rematch but it would really be just like on breaking a huge and tall wall on defeating Inoue.
The day is getting closer and for sure they are making out preparations for this upcoming fight just like always.The better the boxer the one who would win up this match.
I cant just believe that Casimero wont be the one will be fighting due to those shit things happened to him.  Grin


This would clear up other doubts if Donaire did win. apart from him being able to get revenge after a few years ago losing like you said this will be a trilogy that is very worth watching.

Actually in this case I'm still pretty sure with Donaire now despite Inoe's strength from this blow it can still be anticipated if he continues to be beaten but maybe this will be a little difficult

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