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June 05, 2022, 06:39:13 PM
 #1101

Interesting take by Carl Frampton in this fight, he thinks that Nonito might have a change to pull an upset.
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“Inoue has got serious power, but Donaire has got a good chin and he has the ability to take shots and fire back. I would not be surprised if there was a shock on the cards in Japan.  From the first fight, if anyone is going to have learnt and made the adjustments, then it’s Nonito.  He’s been around this game a long, long time.”
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Frampton beat Donaire though, but they becomes friends. Carl retire last year after his one side lost beating from the hands of then champion Jamel Herring. So I guess him going with war with Donaire, he knows what the Filipino can bring in the table in this fight.
That is really not too far from reality because Donaire is much more dangerous know, I believe he is more prepared now than the 1st fight because he really have no idea at all what Inoue could bring and that the latter is just willing to take those punches and return a much more stronger punch. The chances of Donaire winning this upcoming fight is more greater.

I'm also hoping that I keep watching their last match and he really can take Inoue's punch and he can hit him but we are talking about fresh legs, he has a good chance in the early rounds but if the fight drags on, Inoue's fresh legs can take over Donaire's last two fights came via stoppage and it happened in the early rounds of the fight, Donaire is good at the early stage of the fight but with his age, his body can't keep up in the later rounds.

Donaire's chances to win in the early rounds is bigger than in the late rounds, he knew about that too. He needs to land a successful punches to hurt Inoue or KO if he can do that in the early rounds, also timing is crucial because Inoue surely knows that Donaire would try to pull an upset in those rounds.
Donaire should be careful though if the fight drags on the late rounds because Inoue would surely try and make the fight long because that's where his advantages grow as he have the most gas tank than the aging Donaire.

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June 05, 2022, 10:34:22 PM
 #1102

There's no contest that he's the number 1 and the champ. It seems that Donaire is too pursuant and determined and that's why he's confident in telling that he's got motivated and based on his stance that he's going to win against Inoue this time.
All of it is going to be seen within the next few days so there's no need to hurry and we'll see the decision on this match 2.
We have to respect him, Donaire is motivated, then that is good because he certainly needs that to beat the monster Inoue. During their first meeting, it was very clear that Donaire had given Inoue a tough match-up, and Donaire has already learned from his mistakes in the previous fight, so let's see what's his improvement in this rematch.

I will root for Donaire but I would not be surprise if Donaire will lose again.
Yeah, we can see that on their first match, and this time, we don't know if that would be the same or entirely a different story. I'm sure those improvements will be vulgar on their match.
I cannot wait for the day, it's near and the odds of who would like to bet on Donaire for Duelbits is 4.90. Seems favorable and likable for most bettors for Donaire.  Cool

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June 05, 2022, 10:51:02 PM
 #1103

There's no contest that he's the number 1 and the champ. It seems that Donaire is too pursuant and determined and that's why he's confident in telling that he's got motivated and based on his stance that he's going to win against Inoue this time.
All of it is going to be seen within the next few days so there's no need to hurry and we'll see the decision on this match 2.
We have to respect him, Donaire is motivated, then that is good because he certainly needs that to beat the monster Inoue. During their first meeting, it was very clear that Donaire had given Inoue a tough match-up, and Donaire has already learned from his mistakes in the previous fight, so let's see what's his improvement in this rematch.

I will root for Donaire but I would not be surprise if Donaire will lose again.
Yeah, we can see that on their first match, and this time, we don't know if that would be the same or entirely a different story. I'm sure those improvements will be vulgar on their match.
I cannot wait for the day, it's near and the odds of who would like to bet on Donaire for Duelbits is 4.90. Seems favorable and likable for most bettors for Donaire.  Cool

Odds for Donaire is considerable and i can afford on putting up some bucks on it which i do believe and see that he might really pull this one but well its not something an assured thing
but to presume that Donaire do make out some adjustments in regarding his flaws or whats lacking on their first fight which i do see that he lacks some stamina or he gas out much
faster than Inoue which is understandable considering that he's getting old but wont really be still an excuse for him on making it as an excuse yet everything could really be still
improved.
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June 06, 2022, 03:09:52 AM
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Yeah, we can see that on their first match, and this time, we don't know if that would be the same or entirely a different story. I'm sure those improvements will be vulgar on their match.
I cannot wait for the day, it's near and the odds of who would like to bet on Donaire for Duelbits is 4.90. Seems favorable and likable for most bettors for Donaire.  Cool

Odds for Donaire is considerable and i can afford on putting up some bucks on it which i do believe and see that he might really pull this one but well its not something an assured thing
but to presume that Donaire do make out some adjustments in regarding his flaws or whats lacking on their first fight which i do see that he lacks some stamina or he gas out much
faster than Inoue which is understandable considering that he's getting old but wont really be still an excuse for him on making it as an excuse yet everything could really be still
improved.
Well, we can look where he's great and also the disadvantage that you think. This is the reason why there's the odd and you can place if you think it's worth to you.
What's important to most of us is after a long wait, hopefully, we're not going to be disappointed on this match. Whether you're for Donaire or Inoue, we want to see how this match will end and it's been so long and just as we hope, there won't be any bad news as the day approaches.

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June 06, 2022, 03:19:27 AM
 #1105

There's no contest that he's the number 1 and the champ. It seems that Donaire is too pursuant and determined and that's why he's confident in telling that he's got motivated and based on his stance that he's going to win against Inoue this time.
All of it is going to be seen within the next few days so there's no need to hurry and we'll see the decision on this match 2.
We have to respect him, Donaire is motivated, then that is good because he certainly needs that to beat the monster Inoue. During their first meeting, it was very clear that Donaire had given Inoue a tough match-up, and Donaire has already learned from his mistakes in the previous fight, so let's see what's his improvement in this rematch.

I will root for Donaire but I would not be surprise if Donaire will lose again.
Yeah, we can see that on their first match, and this time, we don't know if that would be the same or entirely a different story. I'm sure those improvements will be vulgar on their match.
I cannot wait for the day, it's near and the odds of who would like to bet on Donaire for Duelbits is 4.90. Seems favorable and likable for most bettors for Donaire.  Cool

Of course those are very good odds if you are rooting for Donaire. That's almost x5. But I will not be betting on this match. I watched the first match and even though Donaire made it really hard for Inoue to win, he lost. And it was not a steal on Inoue's part. He really won it. I'm sure Donaire and his team have already reviewed that past fight detail by detail to make sure the second time they face Inoue their shortcomings and errors will be properly addressed. We will be seeing that very soon.
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June 06, 2022, 04:05:48 AM
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Of course those are very good odds if you are rooting for Donaire. That's almost x5. But I will not be betting on this match. I watched the first match and even though Donaire made it really hard for Inoue to win, he lost. And it was not a steal on Inoue's part. He really won it. I'm sure Donaire and his team have already reviewed that past fight detail by detail to make sure the second time they face Inoue their shortcomings and errors will be properly addressed. We will be seeing that very soon.

Inoue is the obvious favorite here and he will more likely to win this fight because he is young but the door of upset is always open in this kind of bout. that's why most of the spectators will give their thumbs up to Inoue but the risk-takers will probably be for Donaire. Tomorrow is the schedule of the fight and it would be a blockbuster for sure not only in Japan but in the entire world. Donaire is the only boxer capable of beating Inoue in a slight chance, will he win this one or not?
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June 06, 2022, 06:13:56 AM
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Update, final weigh-in:

Donaire: 117.8 lbs.
Inoue: 118 lbs.

Here is the video, although the quality is not that good,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUySQ_25Yno

At least there's no drama of either one of them not making weight. Of course, both of them will look drain specially Donaire because of his age but it doesn't mean that it will have an effect on him on fight night. He will simply rehydrate, just like what he did after the weigh-in. He simply sip-in some drinks to replenish his body with vitamins and minerals.

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June 06, 2022, 11:42:38 AM
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Update, final weigh-in:

Donaire: 117.8 lbs.
Inoue: 118 lbs.

Here is the video, although the quality is not that good,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUySQ_25Yno

At least there's no drama of either one of them not making weight. Of course, both of them will look drain specially Donaire because of his age but it doesn't mean that it will have an effect on him on fight night. He will simply rehydrate, just like what he did after the weigh-in. He simply sip-in some drinks to replenish his body with vitamins and minerals.

Good news, so there's no hindrance and we will be seeing this fight tomorrow.
This fight is sure fun to watch, I hope there are people who would share free live streaming for this particular fight.

for those who know about the premium PPV if there is, please tell me how to avail of it in case there's no free streaming.

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June 06, 2022, 02:58:56 PM
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Update, final weigh-in:

Donaire: 117.8 lbs.
Inoue: 118 lbs.

Here is the video, although the quality is not that good,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUySQ_25Yno

At least there's no drama of either one of them not making weight. Of course, both of them will look drain specially Donaire because of his age but it doesn't mean that it will have an effect on him on fight night. He will simply rehydrate, just like what he did after the weigh-in. He simply sip-in some drinks to replenish his body with vitamins and minerals.

Both are good to go. From what I have seen, Inoue seems to be more fit and with his young age agility will serve as his advantage,

while with Donaire, he is still the pinoy flash, so expect even he's no longer in his prime, he can still bring something for the fans, he

can still surprise Inoue with his solid combinations. He still has that power punch who can ruin anyone's career. 

Take your side according to how you analyze the fight. Anything can happen inside the ring.
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June 06, 2022, 04:12:46 PM
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The difference on physical is clearly in favor with Inoue. This fight is just become possible because they have unfinished business for this rematch.

Donaire has the advantage for experience and techniques so there's still a possibility for an upset result despite the odds is overwhelming in favor to the young fighter. I will abstain on betting to this fight even though the odds for Donaire is very huge. Too much risk for me to handle it.
In this case Inoue might benefit a little if he plays a little threateningly there because if we see he is a different fighter and this is definitely a hassle for Donaire because he has to keep Inoue's left-handed shot which is quite dominant in every fight.
on the other hand it's actually still quite difficult to determine whether this will be a good thing for Donaire or Inoue because I still feel that these two boxers are equally good and I'm having a hard time deciding right now

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June 06, 2022, 07:41:20 PM
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Yeah, we can see that on their first match, and this time, we don't know if that would be the same or entirely a different story. I'm sure those improvements will be vulgar on their match.
I cannot wait for the day, it's near and the odds of who would like to bet on Donaire for Duelbits is 4.90. Seems favorable and likable for most bettors for Donaire.  Cool

Odds for Donaire is considerable and i can afford on putting up some bucks on it which i do believe and see that he might really pull this one but well its not something an assured thing
but to presume that Donaire do make out some adjustments in regarding his flaws or whats lacking on their first fight which i do see that he lacks some stamina or he gas out much
faster than Inoue which is understandable considering that he's getting old but wont really be still an excuse for him on making it as an excuse yet everything could really be still
improved.
Well, we can look where he's great and also the disadvantage that you think. This is the reason why there's the odd and you can place if you think it's worth to you.
What's important to most of us is after a long wait, hopefully, we're not going to be disappointed on this match. Whether you're for Donaire or Inoue, we want to see how this match will end and it's been so long and just as we hope, there won't be any bad news as the day approaches.
We are indeed here for the entertainment and there should be no hate whether you do choose Inoue or Donaire.Both are good fighters and thats what makes it interesting since
we've seen on how they do fight on their first encounter which is really that interesting and now we are seeing a rematch then its normal that people would be having different
perspective when it comes to both fighters.We do definitely see up some adjustments to be made because they wont really be fighting on the same style after they
had already used it on their first fight.The better would always be the victor.
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June 06, 2022, 07:47:38 PM
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True, both of this fighters are way above the division. But we will see who is on top of the food chain. This fight will settle who is the best, Donaire will have his lasting legacy if he wins. But then again, we have the new and young generation coming at his tail like Inoue, who arguably the best bantamweight right now. But Nonito wanted to prove otherwise that he can still something in his gas tank.

This is Nonito's last chance to a shot at his dream, the unified belts. Not so easy but i think he got the chance if everything will work as planned, the timing on when to counter and land that left hook flush to the chin but if Inoue could avoid that all night long, then it is gonna over for the Filipino Flash.

No offense to fans of Butler here but I think he doesn't stand a chance to either Donaire or Inoue, he will be there because he got the WBO belt.

That will be his challenge because Inoue already knows his techniques and strengths, as well as his weaknesses. Donaire really needs to find that exact timing when to land his counter punch especially in the early rounds because that is his best shot and only chance to pin down the monster of Japan. Inoue will try to make the fight go in the late rounds and wait for Donaire to be exhausted and from there, he will start making some move as that's where Donaire's disadvantages and he cannot just keep up when his gas tank is already below average.

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No offense to fans of Butler here but I think he doesn't stand a chance to either Donaire or Inoue, he will be there because he got the WBO belt.
Unfortunately, Butler cannot avoid these fights because he have a belt. Even if trains hard, he cannot just take down either Donaire or Inoue. Sad to say on his part but that's the reality. He is just nowhere near these man's league.

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June 06, 2022, 09:04:35 PM
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Update, final weigh-in:

Donaire: 117.8 lbs.
Inoue: 118 lbs.

Here is the video, although the quality is not that good,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUySQ_25Yno

At least there's no drama of either one of them not making weight. Of course, both of them will look drain specially Donaire because of his age but it doesn't mean that it will have an effect on him on fight night. He will simply rehydrate, just like what he did after the weigh-in. He simply sip-in some drinks to replenish his body with vitamins and minerals.

Good news, so there's no hindrance and we will be seeing this fight tomorrow.
This fight is sure fun to watch, I hope there are people who would share free live streaming for this particular fight.

for those who know about the premium PPV if there is, please tell me how to avail of it in case there's no free streaming.
They got there weight down the T so yeah, there will be no hindrance whatsoever and they are ready and will go for a war tomorrow, (but everyone should check the time, as the fight will be in Japan).

Inoue looks sharp though and it seems that if we based on the body, Inoue has the advantage. But Donaire looks good at well for his age. Inoue might have the advantage here, but Donaire's is more focused and will go and avenge his defeat in this rematch for sure.

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June 06, 2022, 09:17:54 PM
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Update, final weigh-in:

Donaire: 117.8 lbs.
Inoue: 118 lbs.

Here is the video, although the quality is not that good,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUySQ_25Yno

At least there's no drama of either one of them not making weight. Of course, both of them will look drain specially Donaire because of his age but it doesn't mean that it will have an effect on him on fight night. He will simply rehydrate, just like what he did after the weigh-in. He simply sip-in some drinks to replenish his body with vitamins and minerals.
Now we can expect for the fight to push through and yes, they always rehydrate to stay compose but still need to protect that weight and the good condition of their body. The match day is getting near, I hope Donaire will showcase his skills here with a good strategy since Inoue is not an east opponent to anybody, this is the tough fight and the most exciting one. No more dramas, they are now focused on the up coming match.
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June 06, 2022, 09:24:19 PM
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Inoue looks sharp though and it seems that if we based on the body, Inoue has the advantage. But Donaire looks good at well for his age. Inoue might have the advantage here, but Donaire's is more focused and will go and avenge his defeat in this rematch for sure.

They both looked sharp and it seems Donaire's looks is very serious huh. Good that they both make the weight in the first try unlike Kambosos that needs another hour to shed that extra weight, this only shows us how serious Donaire is in this fight. I mean, he is not young anymore but still, he managed to trim down his body with ease.

Have pull the trigger now and I just bet on the ML this time, against the bookies who predicted that this would end via knockout.

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June 06, 2022, 09:25:51 PM
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Update, final weigh-in:

Donaire: 117.8 lbs.
Inoue: 118 lbs.

Here is the video, although the quality is not that good,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUySQ_25Yno

At least there's no drama of either one of them not making weight. Of course, both of them will look drain specially Donaire because of his age but it doesn't mean that it will have an effect on him on fight night. He will simply rehydrate, just like what he did after the weigh-in. He simply sip-in some drinks to replenish his body with vitamins and minerals.

Good news, so there's no hindrance and we will be seeing this fight tomorrow.
This fight is sure fun to watch, I hope there are people who would share free live streaming for this particular fight.

for those who know about the premium PPV if there is, please tell me how to avail of it in case there's no free streaming.
They got there weight down the T so yeah, there will be no hindrance whatsoever and they are ready and will go for a war tomorrow, (but everyone should check the time, as the fight will be in Japan).

Inoue looks sharp though and it seems that if we based on the body, Inoue has the advantage. But Donaire looks good at well for his age. Inoue might have the advantage here, but Donaire's is more focused and will go and avenge his defeat in this rematch for sure.
That for sure both teams have the game plan.
Inoue must have to remember what Donaire has done to him that almost make him down. He should be careful now as Donaire will take revenge and aim to take off his belt. Well, most of the rematch fight Donaire has in favor of him but can't just expect that it could be easy revenge, Inoue is preparing for that as well and probably he knows the weakness of his opponent based on their 1st match.


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June 06, 2022, 09:50:24 PM
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I tried to add some bet on the option that this fight would go the distance but my bet ticket was rejected due to the reason which I posted below.

First time to encounter this kind of scenario, is this normal? So I guess bookies also have a limit on a certain option huh.


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June 06, 2022, 10:57:41 PM
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I tried to add some bet on the option that this fight would go the distance but my bet ticket was rejected due to the reason which I posted below.

First time to encounter this kind of scenario, is this normal? So I guess bookies also have a limit on a certain option huh.



yes, i have seen that also in one bookie here but not stake. if the bookie is not that big, they can only allow certain amount of winnings. at least, they are already telling us that they can't afford to give us if you have this amount of winnings rather than knowing it after the winning bet. it is their safety net precautions also. if you want to bet more, go for known bookies as they can allow bigger bets with no problem.

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June 06, 2022, 11:35:51 PM
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I just learned that the winner of this rematch between Naoya Inoue and Nonito Donaire might face the new WBO Champion, Paul Butler.

Yes, because they want to unify all the belts and Butler happen to have the WBO, (in which Casimero used to hold).

I thought Inoue will move up weight now if ever he will beat Donaire at their rematch and won't bother to unify the title that Butler holds. I believed I encounter an article regarding that Naoya Inoue's plan.

Well then, moving forward, it's already expected that we can see decent odds for Nonito Donaire to win the match. I'm also considering placing a bet for him to support the Filipino Flash. It's good that while supporting someone, we are also enjoying good odds as a bettor.

Time flies really fast. It looks like the match was just recently announced and now only a few days of waiting before we can see them clash again. All the advantages including the home arena were on Inoue's side. This is really a big upset if Donaire will beat the Japanese monster. It will send some shockwave news around the boxing community world.

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June 07, 2022, 01:41:21 AM
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I just learned that the winner of this rematch between Naoya Inoue and Nonito Donaire might face the new WBO Champion, Paul Butler.

Yes, because they want to unify all the belts and Butler happen to have the WBO, (in which Casimero used to hold).

I thought Inoue will move up weight now if ever he will beat Donaire at their rematch and won't bother to unify the title that Butler holds. I believed I encounter an article regarding that Naoya Inoue's plan.

Well then, moving forward, it's already expected that we can see decent odds for Nonito Donaire to win the match. I'm also considering placing a bet for him to support the Filipino Flash. It's good that while supporting someone, we are also enjoying good odds as a bettor.

Time flies really fast. It looks like the match was just recently announced and now only a few days of waiting before we can see them clash again. All the advantages including the home arena were on Inoue's side. This is really a big upset if Donaire will beat the Japanese monster. It will send some shockwave news around the boxing community world.

Because I already have a Donaire bet, I really hope he can land those heavy bombs on Inoue. I have a feeling that Inoue will fight smart this time. Inoue knows that Donaire is not the Flash anymore and will utilize his speed to going in and out.

I think Paul Butler's call is a bluff. He ain't going suicidal against the monster. But if Donaire wins, Butler might consider unifying the belts especially if it happens in his rich city of Liverpool, his own backyard. Butler and Donaire are both promoted by Probellum(PBC) so this is a big possibility. On the other hand, Inoue is promoted by Top Rank(ESPN).

Bob Arum since he signed Inoue few years ago already said he wanted the kid to move up further in weight. Inoue's dream though is to become undisputed. Should he beat Donaire later, then he wants the last remaining belt held by Butler. Should Probellum and PBC decline (especially Butler do not have the power and speed) then Inoue might be forced to move up.

Another odd situation for Inoue and Top Rank though is the 4 super bantam belts are only held by two fighters and both are with PBC. 

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