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June 07, 2022, 09:21:28 PM
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What a monster! Naoya Inoue just stunned Nonito Donaire of their remath. A rough fight for Donaire, time has caught him but nothing to be ashamed of the fight. We're still proud of you Kabayan!

Don't expect the match between Naoya Inoue vs Jayson Casimero , this will be just a dream match like KhabibNurmagomedov vs Tony Ferguson.

If Casimero didn't break the weight loss rules, the two will fight for the title of Undisputed Champion.
Truly a monster!

Round 1 Donaire fell and on round 2, Inoue saw the opportunity that there's no time needed to waste. Speaking of Casimero, is there any way that an Inoue and Casimero match will happen?

We all know that the next possible match will be Butler and Inoue. Aside from that, any possible scenario that Casimero and Inoue can face in the ring soon?

The fight between Casimero vs Inoue is possible but first he needs to defeat Paul Butler for the title of Undisputed Champion. Once he defeats him he can go up to a different class which is Super Flyweight also with Casimero if he really wants to pursue their unfinished business.

I'm just waiting for Casimero's reaction after fight because It's been months that I don't have any news from him.
Thanks.

So that's what has to happen so that Casimero and Inoue will meet. People are eyeing on this match before and then WBO orders came and then a sudden disqualification for Casimero.

What a lot of events have turned and now hopefully, Casimero pursues for Inoue to see if he really can beat monster. No doubt that many have now the respect for him.

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June 07, 2022, 09:26:31 PM
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Naoya is too precise for Donaire. If you can slow mo that first knockout, Naoya had quicky decide to throw right while Donaire was about to swing too. He was about to throw left but seeing Donaire about to swing right, he shift to throw right hitting Donaires jaw.

If I was in such position, I couldnt hardly see whats coming but use my takedown defense like Khamzat lol. Yep time to hang gloves.
Inoue is just too good on technicality plus really having that speed which it is something that cant really be predicted.He did make out some switches and made out some good decision
on what punches should be thrown and speaking of counters then there's no doubt that this kid does really have  that speed and power.Yes, and just like other people been saying
for this fight which is too fast paced.No one really expected that considering that their first fight did last off 12 rounds but this one is too short.
Agree on that hanging out that gloves should be next.  Cheesy

Donaire takes a huge risk and pays the price he chases Inoue the whole first round until he was caught with a big punch and he cannot recover and took a beating in the second round, not a good way to hang up his gloves, I guess he is thinking of getting a few more fights from underrated fighters before hanging up the gloves, but it's really time for him to go he has done a lot being a champion at his age is already a big achievement.

the fight was too fast, was expecting that it will go the distance. but well, in boxing, you can never tell up until they are inside the ring. i hope donaire retires from this sports. if he will fight small boxers, i don't think he will be achieving something anymore. or maybe, fight with casimero as their match way back didn't push thru because of the drama. at least settle whatever business unfinished inside the ring.

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June 07, 2022, 09:34:06 PM
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I expect that Inoue will going to win via KO or TKO but I didn’t expect that the match will last to round 2 only. I watch the highlights and see that Donaire is really struggling and gets knocked out in the first round, I already know that he is going to lose via TKO. Inoue is really a strong opponent and we all witnessed it.
Struggling on the first round is the worst thing for Donaire, many are shock for the result of this match but knowing Inoue, this is really possible to happen. Though I put my bet on Donaire, I just think he is done for boxing considering his age and this worst lose agains the mighty Inoue. No more Pinoy boxer that can challenge Inoue as of the moment, since Casimero is also suffering from his own problem. Inoue is still a beast, I wonder if some boxer can beat this guy.

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June 07, 2022, 09:43:05 PM
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I don't want to remember Donaire like this, it's not a good loss but Donaire always keep his legacy and his competitiveness is always there, maybe he has a bad move of chasing Inoue in the early minutes of first-round but Inoue's power is just too much if Donaire hangs up his gloves that will be fine, if he continues to fight then we should respect his decision, he has built his legacy and he is already a future hall of Famer.

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June 07, 2022, 09:51:31 PM
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Just because of one fight, someone who has been fighting amazingly for their entire career, doesn't go down as a bad fighter just because they lost a few fights. Mike Tyson is remembered as one of the best fighters of all time, and he had 58 fights, 6 of them were losses, 2 no contest. So all in all, he had 6 losses, last 2 being serious losses as well. So all in all, just because Donaire lost, doesn't mean that he would be remembered as a bad fighter. He was a good fighter, and not justl ike he fought very well, in the meaning that he was fighter in his soul as well, dude took on so much and still kept on going, bot on the ring and off the ring as well.

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June 07, 2022, 10:04:19 PM
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Just because of one fight, someone who has been fighting amazingly for their entire career, doesn't go down as a bad fighter just because they lost a few fights. Mike Tyson is remembered as one of the best fighters of all time, and he had 58 fights, 6 of them were losses, 2 no contest. So all in all, he had 6 losses, last 2 being serious losses as well. So all in all, just because Donaire lost, doesn't mean that he would be remembered as a bad fighter. He was a good fighter, and not justl ike he fought very well, in the meaning that he was fighter in his soul as well, dude took on so much and still kept on going, bot on the ring and off the ring as well.

I can agree with you here. A boxer is not remembered just because of his one last fight.
It is his legacy that will be remembered and a good example that you gave is Mike Tyson.
Hang the gloves or not, Donaire already created his legacy to this sports.
Time for the young blood to be on stage. Everyone will come to this phase in life.
And it is how you graciously accept this fact, to move on with your life and be contented about it.
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June 07, 2022, 10:05:35 PM
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I don't want to remember Donaire like this, it's not a good loss but Donaire always keep his legacy and his competitiveness is always there, maybe he has a bad move of chasing Inoue in the early minutes of first-round but Inoue's power is just too much if Donaire hangs up his gloves that will be fine, if he continues to fight then we should respect his decision, he has built his legacy and he is already a future hall of Famer.
I've come to realize that too, it's better if he hadn't a rematch but that's it. Things were already done and I'm sure that there's no regret on him, Inoue is just better and nothing else with that. Donaire will realize that he's got a better passion to make and maybe he can go with coaching and training the new and aspiring fighters that shall rise under his flag. I'm assuming that he's just waiting for a great counter punch but it didn't happened, Inoue's aggressiveness got him with those punches that has entered on him.

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June 07, 2022, 10:07:23 PM
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As I have said previously, someone is about to get knock out in this fight and unfortunately it was our very on Filipino flash. The thing is, Donaire said that the first knock down really took a toll on him because he didn't know what really happen to him, he goes blank and admitted that it was the hardest punches he took in his career. It's not about the age year, Nonito can still fight, but Inoue is too good and too sharp in front of his fans. No where that someone can stop that kind of combination, sharp and crisp and right on the money. The future looks bright for the Monster and could be the next biggest star from Asia.

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June 07, 2022, 10:50:23 PM
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It's not about the age year, Nonito can still fight, but Inoue is too good and too sharp in front of his fans.

Yes, it's not the age and I agree with you there. It's just that the Japanese boxer made a good timing to penetrate Donaire's defense. Naoya Inoue landed an intense blow in the 1st Round that Donaire didn't expect. It destroys Donaire's momentum and the effect of those punches can still be seen in the next round now resulting in a Knock-Out win from Inoue.

Inoue wasted no time taking that advantage while Donaire is still recovering from that blow. That's the same scenario in their 1st match but the difference is, that Donaire wasn't able to take the advantage when Inoue was struggling to recover.
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June 07, 2022, 11:44:30 PM
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I've come to realize that too, it's better if he hadn't a rematch but that's it. Things were already done and I'm sure that there's no regret on him, Inoue is just better and nothing else with that. Donaire will realize that he's got a better passion to make and maybe he can go with coaching and training the new and aspiring fighters that shall rise under his flag. I'm assuming that he's just waiting for a great counter punch but it didn't happened, Inoue's aggressiveness got him with those punches that has entered on him.

The rematch with Naoya Inoue is the best match he can get. There's no other way since he already holds a BantamWeight title and to unify it, obviously, he needs to challenge those other boxers who hold the other bantamweight title. A title defense is not even an option for Donaire as he is catching the age already. He needs to get it done while his body is still cooperating with him. Unfortunately, that dream to become an undisputed champion in Bantamweight won't happen anymore.

Actually, Nonito Donaire can still fight even at his age and can destroy other boxers in their division. Naoya Inoue is just too strong for him. Either way, still a wonderful career for Donaire. If he will continue fighting or not, I will support his decision.
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June 07, 2022, 11:55:20 PM
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I'm not sure if Nonito Donaire will still come back to boxing at this point of his career. If I remember it right when he loses to Naoya Inoue in their first match, his confidence breaks down to the point that he thinks, he has done in boxing.

He worked on gaining his confidence again by taking another match, which was against the former WBC Bantamweight Champion Nordine Oubaali on which he won via Technical Knock Out just in the 3rd round. That win slowly builds his strong confidence that he still got that strong punch that can knock out anyone. Then next, he takes the much younger and undefeated Gaballo and again, he wins via Knock Out in 3rd round too.

With this another loss to his long-time target, maybe Nonito Donaire is currently thinking of hanging his gloves now. It's only Naoya Inoue and Paul Butler who holds the title. Naoya Inoue will surely unify all the bantamweight titles.

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June 07, 2022, 11:59:12 PM
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I've come to realize that too, it's better if he hadn't a rematch but that's it. Things were already done and I'm sure that there's no regret on him, Inoue is just better and nothing else with that. Donaire will realize that he's got a better passion to make and maybe he can go with coaching and training the new and aspiring fighters that shall rise under his flag. I'm assuming that he's just waiting for a great counter punch but it didn't happened, Inoue's aggressiveness got him with those punches that has entered on him.

The rematch with Naoya Inoue is the best match he can get. There's no other way since he already holds a BantamWeight title and to unify it, obviously, he needs to challenge those other boxers who hold the other bantamweight title. A title defense is not even an option for Donaire as he is catching the age already. He needs to get it done while his body is still cooperating with him. Unfortunately, that dream to become an undisputed champion in Bantamweight won't happen anymore.

Actually, Nonito Donaire can still fight even at his age and can destroy other boxers in their division. Naoya Inoue is just too strong for him. Either way, still a wonderful career for Donaire. If he will continue fighting or not, I will support his decision.

He can still fight but also its good to retire and enjoy his life outside the ring while he is healthy. 39 of age is not young anymore as a fighter and he might face another loses if he face another fighter which is young still at his prime. Its just this fight between Inoue is a deciding factor for him to consider retirement because he's time is done and its time to move on now.

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June 08, 2022, 12:30:24 AM
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I've come to realize that too, it's better if he hadn't a rematch but that's it. Things were already done and I'm sure that there's no regret on him, Inoue is just better and nothing else with that. Donaire will realize that he's got a better passion to make and maybe he can go with coaching and training the new and aspiring fighters that shall rise under his flag. I'm assuming that he's just waiting for a great counter punch but it didn't happened, Inoue's aggressiveness got him with those punches that has entered on him.

The rematch with Naoya Inoue is the best match he can get. There's no other way since he already holds a BantamWeight title and to unify it, obviously, he needs to challenge those other boxers who hold the other bantamweight title. A title defense is not even an option for Donaire as he is catching the age already. He needs to get it done while his body is still cooperating with him. Unfortunately, that dream to become an undisputed champion in Bantamweight won't happen anymore.

Actually, Nonito Donaire can still fight even at his age and can destroy other boxers in their division. Naoya Inoue is just too strong for him. Either way, still a wonderful career for Donaire. If he will continue fighting or not, I will support his decision.

He can still fight but also its good to retire and enjoy his life outside the ring while he is healthy. 39 of age is not young anymore as a fighter and he might face another loses if he face another fighter which is young still at his prime. Its just this fight between Inoue is a deciding factor for him to consider retirement because he's time is done and its time to move on now.

With the outcome of the fight, we don't want Donaire to take anymore punishment as it might affect his health in the future. He is already 40 years old, so better to enjoy his life outside of boxing. He has a beautiful wife and 2 lovely kids (if I'm not mistaken), and for sure he has invested the money he earn from boxing. Not sure who win amongst us, as majority goes to Donaire for an upset win.

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June 08, 2022, 12:33:30 AM
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Naoya is too precise for Donaire. If you can slow mo that first knockout, Naoya had quicky decide to throw right while Donaire was about to swing too. He was about to throw left but seeing Donaire about to swing right, he shift to throw right hitting Donaires jaw.

If I was in such position, I couldnt hardly see whats coming but use my takedown defense like Khamzat lol. Yep time to hang gloves.
Inoue is just too good on technicality plus really having that speed which it is something that cant really be predicted.He did make out some switches and made out some good decision
on what punches should be thrown and speaking of counters then there's no doubt that this kid does really have  that speed and power.Yes, and just like other people been saying
for this fight which is too fast paced.No one really expected that considering that their first fight did last off 12 rounds but this one is too short.
Agree on that hanging out that gloves should be next.  Cheesy

Donaire takes a huge risk and pays the price he chases Inoue the whole first round until he was caught with a big punch and he cannot recover and took a beating in the second round, not a good way to hang up his gloves, I guess he is thinking of getting a few more fights from underrated fighters before hanging up the gloves, but it's really time for him to go he has done a lot being a champion at his age is already a big achievement.

Perhaps that was his strategy, chase Inoue early and make him very uncomfortable early and then counter him. But as you have said, speed kills and that's what happen him as Donaire was caught trying to counter and he wasn't able to recover in time. So maybe he will be thinking of retiring after this devastating lost and accept that it's time to hang up his gloves and say it a night because he had one of the best career for a Filipino, second only to Manny Pacquiao.

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June 08, 2022, 01:56:28 AM
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So Inoue has really improved a lot from their last fight. The punch are very heavy and it has intent to knock out anyone in its path. So Inoue has almost clean the division, maybe Butler or Casimero but I don't think this 2 has a chance against the Monster.

The dangerous part is that he is not yet on his prime, so there's a lot of legroom for him to improved and be in the p4p list top 5. Donaire should retire because if he continues to fight the next time, he might get knock out again.

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June 08, 2022, 02:02:23 AM
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I don't want to remember Donaire like this, it's not a good loss but Donaire always keep his legacy and his competitiveness is always there, maybe he has a bad move of chasing Inoue in the early minutes of first-round but Inoue's power is just too much if Donaire hangs up his gloves that will be fine, if he continues to fight then we should respect his decision, he has built his legacy and he is already a future hall of Famer.
I actually didnt expect this fight to be over so early. I mean seeing Donaire struggling and the fight to last for only 2 rounds is unexpected for me. I thought Donaire will regain himself and will give us a good fight even if the result is still favor to Inoue (knowing how good Inoue is). Well, Inoue is a monster and his performance is really impressive. I think Donaire didnt even have a warm up but Inoue already gave him a strong and accurate punches.

Nevertheless, Donaire already made a name for himself  so if ever he retire because of his age or whatever reason that would be understandable.

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June 08, 2022, 02:12:07 AM
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Time's up for Donaire. He is going to hang up his gloves and bid boxing good bye. Possibly not boxing in general because he might pursue a boxing clinic, a boxing gym, or perhaps a boxing mentorship, but his professional boxing career may be over. No regrets because he has proven his worth and skills. There is no unfinished business for him in the scene. In fact he will be inducted to the hall of fame because of his boxing accomplishments. He has nothing to prove anymore.
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June 08, 2022, 02:20:15 AM
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I don't want to remember Donaire like this, it's not a good loss but Donaire always keep his legacy and his competitiveness is always there, maybe he has a bad move of chasing Inoue in the early minutes of first-round but Inoue's power is just too much if Donaire hangs up his gloves that will be fine, if he continues to fight then we should respect his decision, he has built his legacy and he is already a future hall of Famer.
Donaire has been known as a counter puncher but his opponent is way faster, way stronger and his punches were way more precise than him.
His age as well greatly affects his performance because he is too slow for Inoue compare to him that is at his prime and stronger as well.

I knew from the start that Inoue will win on this one and many are as well but I didn't expect the outcome. Congratulations to Inoue and a good game for Donaire as well. Maybe it's time for him to hang up his gloves or maybe he wants to fight somebody before he will retire. Take note that many also said to Pacquiao to retire already but he didn't and he fought at least 2 fights I think before he retired. Maybe Donaire will do the same as well.

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June 08, 2022, 03:20:57 AM
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I don't want to remember Donaire like this, it's not a good loss but Donaire always keep his legacy and his competitiveness is always there, maybe he has a bad move of chasing Inoue in the early minutes of first-round but Inoue's power is just too much if Donaire hangs up his gloves that will be fine, if he continues to fight then we should respect his decision, he has built his legacy and he is already a future hall of Famer.
Donaire has been known as a counter puncher but his opponent is way faster, way stronger and his punches were way more precise than him.
His age as well greatly affects his performance because he is too slow for Inoue compare to him that is at his prime and stronger as well.

I knew from the start that Inoue will win on this one and many are as well but I didn't expect the outcome. Congratulations to Inoue and a good game for Donaire as well. Maybe it's time for him to hang up his gloves or maybe he wants to fight somebody before he will retire. Take note that many also said to Pacquiao to retire already but he didn't and he fought at least 2 fights I think before he retired. Maybe Donaire will do the same as well.

Innoue can counter punch faster with his left as seen in this fight.  He did a lot of left hook, though its blocked, it opens vulnerability of Donaire. When his feet wobbled, you could already see the outcome.

I didn't pay attention to the dates of this match, I didn't even thought their will be a rematch but so it happened and missed betting. But what I noticed is the crowd, Japanese are so behave.

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June 08, 2022, 05:57:32 AM
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Innoue can counter punch faster with his left as seen in this fight.  He did a lot of left hook, though its blocked, it opens vulnerability of Donaire. When his feet wobbled, you could already see the outcome.

I didn't pay attention to the dates of this match, I didn't even thought their will be a rematch but so it happened and missed betting. But what I noticed is the crowd, Japanese are so behave.
In terms of speed Inoue will lose but his left Hook will clearly be a problem considering in this case he has the advantage because Donaire is not used to holding back left-handed boxers.
But on the other hand, when doing this, there will also be a bit of trouble for Inoue because if you look at Donaire's determination and fast movement and his accurate punches, this will obviously be a hassle for Inoue.

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