Inoue vs Donaire II discussion

[mirakal]

They have nothing to gain if they fight Casimero because he don't have the belt, the only Casimero have is the record that he is still number 1 on his division nothing else and for sure Inoue's camp is not interested for that only. So for sure they will skip on Casimero and find more better match which can help Inoue to create his own legacy.

Quadro Alas doesn't have the aces anymore to lure Inoue to fight him no matter what he says on his social media account, he has known that a long time ago. He wasted his opportunities to become the unified champion which seldom happens to any boxer. Inoue will fight Butler, that's for sure because he wants to unify all the belt before moving up in weight so better for Casimero to fight in the division higher than bantamweight and wait for Inoue there, that way he has the chance to have a piece of the Japanese Monster.

It's just very unfortunate, and he was supposed to be the next challenger now and I will say that it could be more exciting than Donaire fight as Casimero could go beyond round two and who knows, maybe put Inoue in trouble if ever they fight. But it is not going to happen at bantamweight. If Butler wants to get a crack on Inoue, sure, but the problem is can he survived the onslaught of the Monster in this division? I highly doubt that, Inoue has so far improved a lot and it seems he has all the ingredients and a complete fighter now.

Man, I can tell Inoue is a complete fighter already in this stage of his career. He has the speed, power, agility, and most importantly the boxing IQ. It feels like he was born and destined to be that good in boxing.
I don't think Casimero could beat him easily. However, for the boxing fans we all are excited on what Casimero could bring in the table as he always have something to say about Inoue every after his (Inoue) victory.
Well, I understand that's part of the preparations to hype up the match.

Surely he's really different in that said rematch, he was not the same Inoue we know who is having a hard time against Donaire and had a 12 lengthy rounds just to win the fight, he is more flexible now and definitely impressive. I cannot deny the changes of his skills when the fight started because Donaire was already pinned down after some few minutes.

Casimero can talk all he want but Inoue and his team aren't going to participate in the battle of trashtalk because Inoue knows that he's already far now while Casimero is still struggling and facing the consequences prior the fight against Butler. Inoue will be even further if he decides to move to another weight class after he is done with Butler.

[Japinat]

Casimero can talk all he want but Inoue and his team aren't going to participate in the battle of trashtalk because Inoue knows that he's already far now while Casimero is still struggling and facing the consequences prior the fight against Butler. Inoue will be even further if he decides to move to another weight class after he is done with Butler.

Inoue knows his next priority, and it's Butler who is holding the belt that Inoue needs for him to be the undisputed champion. Though I like to see a Casimero vs Inoue fight, looks like this is far from happening already now that Inoue won't get anything big fighting Casimero.

Casimero has to find a way to get back in boxing, slowly but surely, not challenging or trash taking a humble champion.

[Peanutswar]

When the both boxers comes into the ring it is really gets too much excitement with the match but during the first round and it gives a lot of pressure to Donaire and we make a possible conclusion that this is not really going well, I guess it is time to make a break for him because he made already a name into the world of boxing.

[Yamifoud]

When the both boxers comes into the ring it is really gets too much excitement with the match but during the first round and it gives a lot of pressure to Donaire and we make a possible conclusion that this is not really going well, I guess it is time to make a break for him because he made already a name into the world of boxing.

A break forever in the world of active boxing, in short "retirement".

Yes, Donaire has already made his country proud, we will never forget his great games in the past, but it's not his time anymore, he is not getting younger and at his age now, it's just right that he will enjoy his life with his family and forget about boxing for a while. he can still come back but maybe as a coach or a commentator if he wants to.

[stadus]

When the both boxers comes into the ring it is really gets too much excitement with the match but during the first round and it gives a lot of pressure to Donaire and we make a possible conclusion that this is not really going well, I guess it is time to make a break for him because he made already a name into the world of boxing.

A break forever in the world of active boxing, in short "retirement".

Yes, Donaire has already made his country proud, we will never forget his great games in the past, but it's not his time anymore, he is not getting younger and at his age now, it's just right that he will enjoy his life with his family and forget about boxing for a while. he can still come back but maybe as a coach or a commentator if he wants to.

Yes, he seriously need to take a break from now and weigh things up if he will hang his gloves or not but as his fan, I want him to retire already not because he cannot fight greatly but because he has done great things already that will surely make his name unforgotten. It's time to pass the torch to Mark Magsayo and cheer him whenever he is fighting which is now against Rey Vargas.

[izsara]

In terms of speed Inoue will lose but his left Hook will clearly be a problem considering in this case he has the advantage because Donaire is not used to holding back left-handed boxers.
But on the other hand, when doing this, there will also be a bit of trouble for Inoue because if you look at Donaire's determination and fast movement and his accurate punches, this will obviously be a hassle for Inoue.

Are you late in the news? Donaire got demolished by Inoue and because of the performance of Donaire they said it was a scripted fight. I cant blame the watchers since Donaire was like performing that he didnt trained for the fight. He barely threw heavy punches, I guess the early punch to his temple got him and effected everything.

I was left behind and forgot the date due to a lot of work in the real world and only saw reruns there.
I'm quite surprised how Impressive Inoue looks like this and Donaire can't do much there.
Inoue's left hook is truly one of those fearsome weapons now and indeed with this weapon he actually managed to win the rematch and managed to add the WBC bantamweight title to his WBA and IBF.

[Lanatsa]

In terms of speed Inoue will lose but his left Hook will clearly be a problem considering in this case he has the advantage because Donaire is not used to holding back left-handed boxers.
But on the other hand, when doing this, there will also be a bit of trouble for Inoue because if you look at Donaire's determination and fast movement and his accurate punches, this will obviously be a hassle for Inoue.

Are you late in the news? Donaire got demolished by Inoue and because of the performance of Donaire they said it was a scripted fight. I cant blame the watchers since Donaire was like performing that he didnt trained for the fight. He barely threw heavy punches, I guess the early punch to his temple got him and effected everything.

I was left behind and forgot the date due to a lot of work in the real world and only saw reruns there.
I'm quite surprised how Impressive Inoue looks like this and Donaire can't do much there.
Inoue's left hook is truly one of those fearsome weapons now and indeed with this weapon he actually managed to win the rematch and managed to add the WBC bantamweight title to his WBA and IBF.

He wont be called a "Monster" for nothing and he do able to beat up some famous and strong boxers despite for people on looking down on him and now this kid is undefeated and almost of his wins are all KO's

which does indicate that his punches were no joke.This kid does really have that good technicality on which we do see some faint jabs now which is something that we could only see in anime

for those well executed kind of movement but now he had really proved out that it could really be a good weap on taking advantage against players.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

In terms of speed Inoue will lose but his left Hook will clearly be a problem considering in this case he has the advantage because Donaire is not used to holding back left-handed boxers.
But on the other hand, when doing this, there will also be a bit of trouble for Inoue because if you look at Donaire's determination and fast movement and his accurate punches, this will obviously be a hassle for Inoue.

Are you late in the news? Donaire got demolished by Inoue and because of the performance of Donaire they said it was a scripted fight. I cant blame the watchers since Donaire was like performing that he didnt trained for the fight. He barely threw heavy punches, I guess the early punch to his temple got him and effected everything.

I was left behind and forgot the date due to a lot of work in the real world and only saw reruns there.
I'm quite surprised how Impressive Inoue looks like this and Donaire can't do much there.
Inoue's left hook is truly one of those fearsome weapons now and indeed with this weapon he actually managed to win the rematch and managed to add the WBC bantamweight title to his WBA and IBF.

He wont be called a "Monster" for nothing and he do able to beat up some famous and strong boxers despite for people on looking down on him and now this kid is undefeated and almost of his wins are all KO's

which does indicate that his punches were no joke.This kid does really have that good technicality on which we do see some faint jabs now which is something that we could only see in anime

for those well executed kind of movement but now he had really proved out that it could really be a good weap on taking advantage against players.

He really carried that monicker, as the "Monster" because of his power behind those punches. And it's now being magnified after knocking out one of the legends in boxing. And then send signals to other bantamweights and even to the next weight class although that power will have to be check if he can carry it to the next level or not. I guess life imitating art here, we all know that there are Japanese anime about sports, i.e basketball boxing and others and maybe there will be future Japanese character similar to Inoue, 

[Lanatsa]

In terms of speed Inoue will lose but his left Hook will clearly be a problem considering in this case he has the advantage because Donaire is not used to holding back left-handed boxers.
But on the other hand, when doing this, there will also be a bit of trouble for Inoue because if you look at Donaire's determination and fast movement and his accurate punches, this will obviously be a hassle for Inoue.

Are you late in the news? Donaire got demolished by Inoue and because of the performance of Donaire they said it was a scripted fight. I cant blame the watchers since Donaire was like performing that he didnt trained for the fight. He barely threw heavy punches, I guess the early punch to his temple got him and effected everything.

I was left behind and forgot the date due to a lot of work in the real world and only saw reruns there.
I'm quite surprised how Impressive Inoue looks like this and Donaire can't do much there.
Inoue's left hook is truly one of those fearsome weapons now and indeed with this weapon he actually managed to win the rematch and managed to add the WBC bantamweight title to his WBA and IBF.

He wont be called a "Monster" for nothing and he do able to beat up some famous and strong boxers despite for people on looking down on him and now this kid is undefeated and almost of his wins are all KO's

which does indicate that his punches were no joke.This kid does really have that good technicality on which we do see some faint jabs now which is something that we could only see in anime

for those well executed kind of movement but now he had really proved out that it could really be a good weap on taking advantage against players.

He really carried that monicker, as the "Monster" because of his power behind those punches. And it's now being magnified after knocking out one of the legends in boxing. And then send signals to other bantamweights and even to the next weight class although that power will have to be check if he can carry it to the next level or not. I guess life imitating art here, we all know that there are Japanese anime about sports, i.e basketball boxing and others and maybe there will be future Japanese character similar to Inoue, 

We know that Japan does have different sport-based kind of anime which same as you said that there would really be a time that he might really be projected out. Haha.
Power of Inoue on the current class or weight is something that might be effective or relevant on higher division and its true that this one do really make out some noise.
I wont be surprised that this kid will really be that famous and even more great on his career if he could sustain out this kind of fighting and this
kid does really have that capability on taking out big guys.

[bisdak40]

He really carried that monicker, as the "Monster" because of his power behind those punches. And it's now being magnified after knocking out one of the legends in boxing. And then send signals to other bantamweights and even to the next weight class although that power will have to be check if he can carry it to the next level or not. I guess life imitating art here, we all know that there are Japanese anime about sports, i.e basketball boxing and others and maybe there will be future Japanese character similar to Inoue, 

With Bob Arum as his promoter, expect Inoue to conquer the higher division just like what Manny Pacquiao did in his prime but of course with the help of Bob Arum. Maybe his fight with Butler if pushes through will be his last in the bantamweight division and then move to the 122 lbs limit and see what the future would give to this Japanese superstar.

Seldom we can see a Japanese boxer who dominates like Inoue so i think they will also pay tribute to what he did by imitating his life with an anime hehe.

[Jating]

In terms of speed Inoue will lose but his left Hook will clearly be a problem considering in this case he has the advantage because Donaire is not used to holding back left-handed boxers.
But on the other hand, when doing this, there will also be a bit of trouble for Inoue because if you look at Donaire's determination and fast movement and his accurate punches, this will obviously be a hassle for Inoue.

Are you late in the news? Donaire got demolished by Inoue and because of the performance of Donaire they said it was a scripted fight. I cant blame the watchers since Donaire was like performing that he didnt trained for the fight. He barely threw heavy punches, I guess the early punch to his temple got him and effected everything.

I was left behind and forgot the date due to a lot of work in the real world and only saw reruns there.
I'm quite surprised how Impressive Inoue looks like this and Donaire can't do much there.
Inoue's left hook is truly one of those fearsome weapons now and indeed with this weapon he actually managed to win the rematch and managed to add the WBC bantamweight title to his WBA and IBF.

He wont be called a "Monster" for nothing and he do able to beat up some famous and strong boxers despite for people on looking down on him and now this kid is undefeated and almost of his wins are all KO's

which does indicate that his punches were no joke.This kid does really have that good technicality on which we do see some faint jabs now which is something that we could only see in anime

for those well executed kind of movement but now he had really proved out that it could really be a good weap on taking advantage against players.

He really carried that monicker, as the "Monster" because of his power behind those punches. And it's now being magnified after knocking out one of the legends in boxing. And then send signals to other bantamweights and even to the next weight class although that power will have to be check if he can carry it to the next level or not. I guess life imitating art here, we all know that there are Japanese anime about sports, i.e basketball boxing and others and maybe there will be future Japanese character similar to Inoue, 

We know that Japan does have different sport-based kind of anime which same as you said that there would really be a time that he might really be projected out. Haha.
Power of Inoue on the current class or weight is something that might be effective or relevant on higher division and its true that this one do really make out some noise.
I wont be surprised that this kid will really be that famous and even more great on his career if he could sustain out this kind of fighting and this
kid does really have that capability on taking out big guys.

We all know already that he has the power, but now he is more faster and his punch are really that firm. But I would agree that it has to be tested on the higher weight class. Just maybe he will carry it but if he is not a natural featherweight, maybe he will encounter boxers that can withstand his power.

Anyhow, I'm not familiar with Japanese anime, but I'm sure he is a hero in Japan now, him and his brother both won in this fight and could be the next big Japanese superstar. But they should conquer the US and fight there.

[Oilacris]

We all know already that he has the power, but now he is more faster and his punch are really that firm. But I would agree that it has to be tested on the higher weight class. Just maybe he will carry it but if he is not a natural featherweight, maybe he will encounter boxers that can withstand his power.

Anyhow, I'm not familiar with Japanese anime, but I'm sure he is a hero in Japan now, him and his brother both won in this fight and could be the next big Japanese superstar. But they should conquer the US and fight there.

He might already have that in mind on stepping on higher division which he could really test out his power.Sudden change on weight wont really be something simple yet this would greatly affect speed considering on the weight added and mass but adjustments would be there and he is really that aware of such changes but its not really that a bad idea on stepping up one higher if he do sees
that he could easily fit out or capable on beating people on higher rankings but we cant be sure on what would be the outcome if ever he do tends to step up
but just like others been saying that he has the power and speed.

[Yaunfitda]

We all know already that he has the power, but now he is more faster and his punch are really that firm. But I would agree that it has to be tested on the higher weight class. Just maybe he will carry it but if he is not a natural featherweight, maybe he will encounter boxers that can withstand his power.

Anyhow, I'm not familiar with Japanese anime, but I'm sure he is a hero in Japan now, him and his brother both won in this fight and could be the next big Japanese superstar. But they should conquer the US and fight there.

He might already have that in mind on stepping on higher division which he could really test out his power.Sudden change on weight wont really be something simple yet this would greatly affect speed considering on the weight added and mass but adjustments would be there and he is really that aware of such changes but its not really that a bad idea on stepping up one higher if he do sees
that he could easily fit out or capable on beating people on higher rankings but we cant be sure on what would be the outcome if ever he do tends to step up
but just like others been saying that he has the power and speed.

We've seen Manny Pacquiao didn't get as many knockout when he moves up in weight, but still he is very accurate, speed + volume punches. But what if Inoue can carry that power? that's going to be crazy at the same time very interesting to see, maybe he can still go up to 132-136 lbs if his body can do that. And I think he is still not yet reach his peak so his body can go and adapt on a higher weight and again, can bring his power and speed.

[Baofeng]

He really carried that monicker, as the "Monster" because of his power behind those punches. And it's now being magnified after knocking out one of the legends in boxing. And then send signals to other bantamweights and even to the next weight class although that power will have to be check if he can carry it to the next level or not. I guess life imitating art here, we all know that there are Japanese anime about sports, i.e basketball boxing and others and maybe there will be future Japanese character similar to Inoue, 

With Bob Arum as his promoter, expect Inoue to conquer the higher division just like what Manny Pacquiao did in his prime but of course with the help of Bob Arum. Maybe his fight with Butler if pushes through will be his last in the bantamweight division and then move to the 122 lbs limit and see what the future would give to this Japanese superstar.

Seldom we can see a Japanese boxer who dominates like Inoue so i think they will also pay tribute to what he did by imitating his life with an anime hehe.

I agree, with Bob Arum's experience, Inoue can be the next biggest star, although we can't compare him with Manny's enigma and charisma though. But Arum + Pacquiao at his prime? they put a the blue print, on how someone from Asia conquer the boxing world but carefully nitpicking their opponents. If we look at Inoue's pics in his latest fight, you can see that he has a broad shoulder and his lats is huge and it can still expand a bit. So definitely, once he is done with Butler, he will move up to 122 lbs. We have Fulton (WBC/WBO) and Murodjon Akhmadaliev (WBA/IBF) waiting for him. But we might see a unification fight between the 2 as they shared all the belts.

[goinmerry]

With Bob Arum as his promoter, expect Inoue to conquer the higher division just like what Manny Pacquiao did in his prime but of course with the help of Bob Arum. Maybe his fight with Butler if pushes through will be his last in the bantamweight division and then move to the 122 lbs limit and see what the future would give to this Japanese superstar.

Yes, Naoya Inoue is vocal about moving up a weight class. If he wins against Paul Butler there's nothing left now to do in the BantamWeight Division. Another rising-star Asian contender in the World of Boxing is in the making because of Naoya Inoue's dominance. Paul Butler is just lucky to have a shot at Inoue. That will be a dream match for him and I don't really see how can he counter Inoue's speed and strength like what Pacquiao is showing during his BantamWeigt period.

Donaire already achieved a good boxing career. He will recognize as one of the good PH Boxers in history. The time now to consider calling it a career.

[agustina2]

I agree, with Bob Arum's experience, Inoue can be the next biggest star, although we can't compare him with Manny's enigma and charisma though. But Arum + Pacquiao at his prime? they put a the blue print, on how someone from Asia conquer the boxing world but carefully nitpicking their opponents.

Naoya Inoue should be doing good at 122lbs.

I think that's the max weight he can conquer different from Pacquiao that his body also evolves to fight at a maximum Light MiddleWeight. Bob Arum can really make a boxer's career good even though lots hate him. He is a professional in building a boxer's career.

Arum is not playing a kid's game that's why part of his strategy is to pick opponents. Love him or hate him, it's also an advantage to his boxer, not just for him.

[judeafante]

Time's up for Donaire. He is going to hang up his gloves and bid boxing good bye. Possibly not boxing in general because he might pursue a boxing clinic, a boxing gym, or perhaps a boxing mentorship, but his professional boxing career may be over. No regrets because he has proven his worth and skills. There is no unfinished business for him in the scene. In fact he will be inducted to the hall of fame because of his boxing accomplishments. He has nothing to prove anymore.

He should really consider hanging up his gloves now, it may not be a good farewell because of that defeat in the rematch with Inoue but he don't have much of a choice now because he is getting older and he may just be a stepping stone for the upcoming generation. Might as well retire while his name is still fresh, he has proven his worth already in this industry and that is already a good reason.

Every boxer does have their own ego whether they do hang up their gloves after a win or not and it would be depending on them but at the age of 39 then it isnt really that bad to consider on hanging up his gloves or

simply retire.The old donaire we used to knows cant already be seen from fast jabs and good footwork but we havent see this on this fight.If you do look closely or trying out to compare both physique then

he is much smaller in appearance than Inoue..I dont know if he lose weight too much yet im not get used to into those kind of body form of Donaire but well thats not a reason.

Well, he is turning 40 this November so he should really start considering hanging his gloves because judging from the last fight, he is not the Filipino Flash that we used to know anymore. His versatility and speed including the rate of his punches have already changed, he even admits that he is having a hard time at the fight because he can't follow Inoue's punches and the next thing he knows is that the punches were already landed at his temple. Nonetheless, we can see how dedicated he is to the fight as he even tried to have some other fights before he decides to chase the rematch but all of that was wasted because the gap is really evident.

Only he can decide if he wants to retire but based on his review of the fight, he just got caught being careless,  he wants to turn it into a brawl instead of being technical the counter punches did the damage because he is going in and daring Inoue to engage, he was badly hurt by that counter left hook, in boxing, they say the hardest punch you receive is the one that you doesn't see, Donaire admits that he doesn't know why he is in the floor after that left hook but before that left hook he is doing great, he miscalculated everything.
I don't see him retiring he still believes that he still has it, his father wants him to retire
Donaire Sr. wants Jr. to retire after 2nd-round TKO loss to Inoue

Even Arum thinks that Donaire has still some good fights left in him

“Nonito is still at his best but obviously, he’s not on Inoue’s level anymore,” Arum told BusinessMirror from his las Vegas home on Wednesday. “He’s [still] a good fighter, he’s probably that competitor fighter, but the only advice I can tell him is to stay away from Inoue.”

[Kemarit]

^^ That's just Bob Arum's though, he is not handling Donaire so he can tell that Donaire might have something. And we've seen that Donaire takes a lot of punch here and it might not be good for him ast age 40. Maybe another fight and win or lose, that should be it for his legendary career. And that's why most of us think he should. Young boxers are taking over his division and I doubt that he can move up in weight because his frame is not that big.

[Jody.Drummer]

^^ That's just Bob Arum's though, he is not handling Donaire so he can tell that Donaire might have something. And we've seen that Donaire takes a lot of punch here and it might not be good for him ast age 40. Maybe another fight and win or lose, that should be it for his legendary career. And that's why most of us think he should. Young boxers are taking over his division and I doubt that he can move up in weight because his frame is not that big.

Bob Arum only cares about money in this and nothing else. Regardless of whatever fight Donaire had some time ago, it was a pretty heavy blow, actually because a fighter of his size lost in such a fast round, it's clearly an insult and indeed I think it's better for him to decide not to fight anymore than to make mistakes like this again and again in another fight.

[izsara]

I was left behind and forgot the date due to a lot of work in the real world and only saw reruns there.
I'm quite surprised how Impressive Inoue looks like this and Donaire can't do much there.
Inoue's left hook is truly one of those fearsome weapons now and indeed with this weapon he actually managed to win the rematch and managed to add the WBC bantamweight title to his WBA and IBF.

He wont be called a "Monster" for nothing and he do able to beat up some famous and strong boxers despite for people on looking down on him and now this kid is undefeated and almost of his wins are all KO's

which does indicate that his punches were no joke.This kid does really have that good technicality on which we do see some faint jabs now which is something that we could only see in anime

for those well executed kind of movement but now he had really proved out that it could really be a good weap on taking advantage against players.

Looks like he actually transformed into Saitama (Anime character) in Saitama Ring lol.

But it's true that his punches are especially for Left Hook and his combination attacks really make the opponent can't do much there.
A fighter like Donaire only had to fall from the beginning of the round and luckily he was saved by the bell but for the second round it was over and this can be said to be very fast and I was quite amazed to see the difference between the first fight in 2019 and this second.