Is it safe to us to get Covid -19 Vaccine?

[Tash]

Now we’re seeing increased Covid cases and deaths among the fully vaccinated.

All-cause mortality in US increasing fast.
https://www.usmortality.com/excess-absolute

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[hornetsnest]

Now we’re seeing increased Covid cases and deaths among the fully vaccinated.

All-cause mortality in US increasing fast.
https://www.usmortality.com/excess-absolute

Probably why findings are buried for decades. When it's released further down line to the next generation it might get small headline on the 3rd page of a tabloid but the plebs will too busy walking their digital dog through some rainbow on the metaverse to worry about such things.

[bakasabo]

Now we’re seeing increased Covid cases and deaths among the fully vaccinated.

It will be world disaster, if it turns out that vaccine only makes things worse. Will it be possible file a claim against vaccine production companies? Is it even possible or worth doing to do such thing? I mean it will be million cases, and as usually, companies wont have money to cover them all.

This is getting ridiculous. Our country introduced vaccine certificate expiry date, booster looks like is a must right now, and we do not accept some vaccines at all (for example if you have a Johnson & Johnson vaccine certificate, you are not allowed to visit out country). Or more ridiculous, we do not accept foreigners from vaccine that is not approved with our government. I think only people with Pfizer can visit us, while our economy is strongly dependable from abroad capital and tourists.

[Jet Cash]

I understand that the WHO states that there have been no deaths from Omicron.. Many thousand have died and been crippled  by the injections described as Vaccines. You decide which is the safest.

I'm 79, and I haven't been vaccinated fot over 70 years, and I don't suffer from 'flu or viruses.

[franky1]

oh jetty, you seem to devolve more as time passes by.

the virus causes more injuries and death. its that simple

the number of people that died due to omicron is not zero.
the reason its low so far, is that its only really been spreading in many countries for a few weeks so all those in hospital with it, or just starting to get symptoms where they might need to go to hospital. whereby its likely that some will eventually pass away from it, have yet to pass away

its like snake poison that can kill in 6 hours. there is no point shouting out that because you think no one has died in 3 hours that snake poison doesnt kill. what you are forgetting is the thousands of people being taken to hospital in pain and suffering, yet to die

as for not caring. even if you think you will be fine.. if you get it this week. you then have to self isolate  for 10 days from a positive test. meaning if u get the test results wednesday+, then you cant meet anyone at all from wednesday until new years day. meaning christmas and new years is cancelled for you. and anyone you infect

so atleast dont ruin christmas for yourself and other by getting it/spreading it.

[Tash]

Session 86 from the Corona investigative committee Dr.-Lee-Merritt
https://odysee.com/@StopTheCrime:d/Ashkenazi-Jews-not-affected-by-mass-sterilization-through-covid-vaccines---Dr.-Lee-Merritt:6

from the same session Mike Yeadon (Former vice-president of respiratory research division, Pfizer)
https://odysee.com/@Corona-Investigative-Committee:5/Mike-Session-86-en:0

[Cnut237]

I'm 79, and I haven't been vaccinated fot over 70 years, and I don't suffer from 'flu or viruses.

From previous posts, it sounds like you have a commendably healthy lifestyle. But a data point of one single individual person cannot be used to identify a pattern.
We would expect people who live healthily to be less susceptible to serious Covid symptoms than those who live less healthily, but that certainly doesn't mean that everyone who lives healthily will not get severe symptoms.

I am a person.
I woke up at 6AM this morning.
Therefore all people woke up at 6AM this morning?

[AjithBtc]

I understand that the WHO states that there have been no deaths from Omicron.. Many thousand have died and been crippled  by the injections described as Vaccines. You decide which is the safest.

I'm 79, and I haven't been vaccinated fot over 70 years, and I don't suffer from 'flu or viruses.

There are people in my country that haven't got vaccinated at your age and still leads a healthy life. Same time there are young people who have died out of COVID-19 without any symptoms and they weren't vaccinated. On this note, it isn't about the vaccine. It is all about the healthy life style one has maintained and upto the decision of God. Even I lost my father, I never expected this to happen. All of the sudden he felt sick, admitted to hospital. He is positive and was hospitalized for a week and for last two days he was with ventilator support. Myself and father was in the same Home, he's positive and myself tested negative. Once after his death I took the vaccine, not on fear but as a precaution.

[Tash]

I understand that the WHO states that there have been no deaths from Omicron.. Many thousand have died and been crippled  by the injections described as Vaccines. You decide which is the safest.

I'm 79, and I haven't been vaccinated fot over 70 years, and I don't suffer from 'flu or viruses.

There are people in my country that haven't got vaccinated at your age and still leads a healthy life. Same time there are young people who have died out of COVID-19 without any symptoms and they weren't vaccinated. On this note, it isn't about the vaccine. It is all about the healthy life style one has maintained and upto the decision of God. Even I lost my father, I never expected this to happen. All of the sudden he felt sick, admitted to hospital. He is positive and was hospitalized for a week and for last two days he was with ventilator support. Myself and father was in the same Home, he's positive and myself tested negative. Once after his death I took the vaccine, not on fear but as a precaution.

Ventilator have a 90% success kill rate, in some places hospitals receive large sums for every person put on ventilator.
PCR test is not made to find any virus, it's not what it is made for or can do, inventor made it very clear.
As for the toxic injections some call "vaccine", professional opinion can be found in sig.

[PreciousH]

I think vaccines are truly safe over the decades. Yes, it is safe to get COVID-19 vaccine because they save many people from getting infected. I also take 2 doses of vaccine. Now I am safe.

[Tash]

Same, same again and again, this time tattoo artists message to the world

The skin no longer defends itself.

[tvbcof]

Heather McDonald (who I'd never hear of):

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/uuwgcrFZw5m5/

When I first saw it, I wrote it off immediately as phony and thought no more about it.  Now it seems that it is being reported by the MSM as real, so I went to look again.  Looks even more phony in this vid to me.  People don't shuffle their feet when the pass out (in my non-medical experience.)  The look on her face was over-acted, and the soundtrack has a thump in the wrong place for a skull fracture.

I'm 95% sure this is a psy-op.  Not sure what it is meant to would accomplish exactly.  Washed up old has-been actors are exactly the kind of people who are desperate enough to play these roles.  They generally use Epstein/Maxwell type operations for the younger folks like Justin Trudeau-Castro to play Prime Ministers and such.

[CryptoBuds]

I'm 79, and I haven't been vaccinated fot over 70 years, and I don't suffer from 'flu or viruses.

From previous posts, it sounds like you have a commendably healthy lifestyle. But a data point of one single individual person cannot be used to identify a pattern.
We would expect people who live healthily to be less susceptible to serious Covid symptoms than those who live less healthily, but that certainly doesn't mean that everyone who lives healthily will not get severe symptoms.

I am a person.
I woke up at 6AM this morning.
Therefore all people woke up at 6AM this morning?

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The main thing is about the vaccine- Whether I should get vaccinated or whether the vaccine is safe.

@Jet Cash, You have not been vaccinated and your claim is that you have been healthy for so many years without flu and coronavirus vaccine. Glad to know that you are a very lucky and enough healthy person.
 
@Cnut237, Do you think people are surviving because of vaccination? It's true that coronavirus has failed to infect healthy people as much as others. But since we have all been vaccinated, who can say that in the future there will be no disability in our body because of this vaccine?

[Cnut237]

@Cnut237, Do you think people are surviving because of vaccination?

Yes. And I don't just think it, I know it, because I have looked at the data.





https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths-by-vaccination

who can say that in the future there will be no disability in our body because of this vaccine?

Our predictions of the future are based on current knowledge. There is nothing to suggest that there will be problems in the future. Meanwhile, millions of lives have been saved due to the vaccine. Take your pick.
Do you ever get into a plane or a car? Some people have died in planes and cars. If you had to get in a plane, would you choose a) a plane run by a reputable airline that has been through a rigorous and fully-documented testing process, or b) a plane some random drunk guy has built himself from spare parts and has never been off the ground before, or c) forget planes because nothing can be 100% guaranteed, and instead take the risk of getting to your destination some other way, maybe swimming across the ocean yourself, even though all the data say that the plane in option 'a' is your safest bet?

[OgNasty]

Nothing in this world is really safe to be totally honest.  There is no extending life, there is only reducing the rate at which you die.  Given this perspective, of course the vaccine isn't "safe" because that would be impossible.  Is it a safer alternative then getting covid, in some scenarios it has been proven to be.  However, I would argue that not getting the vaccine is safer than getting the vaccine if we were living in a vacuum.  I don't think that can be debated as it is a fact.  Bottom line, if you're scared of covid or you feel like having the flu is a danger to others, get the vaccine if you want.  If you don't want to get it, then don't.  Personal choice is about the only thing you truly have in the world, don't sacrifice it to fit into some grand plan for society. 

[Cnut237]

Personal choice is about the only thing you truly have in the world, don't sacrifice it to fit into some grand plan for society.  

It's difficult though, isn't it? If you as an individual live within a society, then you gain the benefits of living within that society, but you also have a responsibility towards maintaining its well-being. I'm not convinced that vaccination can be framed as an individual liberty issue.

I think I made the distinction in some other thread about the difference between driving without a seat-belt and driving whilst drunk (assuming in both scenarios that you have no passengers).
Driving without a seat-belt means you are taking a personal risk, and might come to harm, but you're not likely to harm others.
Driving whilst drunk means you are taking a personal risk, and might come to harm, and you are more likely to hurt others.

Not taking the vaccine when offered is more similar to driving drunk than it is to driving without a belt. If you live within a society with other road-users, you can't say "driving whilst drunk is a personal liberty issue".

[Tash]

This scamdemic with its promoters like "Cnut237 " is nearing it's end.
“The only means to fight the plague is honesty.” (Albert Camus, 1947)
https://www.bitchute.com/video/MQycm0hAnNjZ/

[hornetsnest]

Personal choice is about the only thing you truly have in the world, don't sacrifice it to fit into some grand plan for society.  

It's difficult though, isn't it? If you as an individual live within a society, then you gain the benefits of living within that society, but you also have a responsibility towards maintaining its well-being. I'm not convinced that vaccination can be framed as an individual liberty issue.

I think I made the distinction in some other thread about the difference between driving without a seat-belt and driving whilst drunk (assuming in both scenarios that you have no passengers).
Driving without a seat-belt means you are taking a personal risk, and might come to harm, but you're not likely to harm others.
Driving whilst drunk means you are taking a personal risk, and might come to harm, and you are more likely to hurt others.

Not taking the vaccine when offered is more similar to driving drunk than it is to driving without a belt. If you live within a society with other road-users, you can't say "driving whilst drunk is a personal liberty issue".

If you are a taxpayer you are entitled to the goods and services your tax goes to fund so matter if you are vaxxed or not and such goods and services should never be made unavailable to you as a tax payer. Society if full of grifters and layabouts who want the government to do everything for them including think and make decisions for them at the expense of those who do all for themselves and like to think and make independent decisions for themselves while still paying for the grifters to get free stuff from the government. The common good for society argument is moot when the tyranny of the majority gets to force the minority to comply against their will or vise versa.

Not taking the vaccine when offered is more similar to driving drunk than it is to driving without a belt. If you live within a society with other road-users, you can't say "driving whilst drunk is a personal liberty issue".

So basically what this point states is that if you refuse to take an experimental drug or vaccine you should not drive and only those who take experimental drugs or vaccines should be on the road. That's a ridiculous comparison/example to make.

[Gyfts]

The common good for society argument is moot when the tyranny of the majority gets to force the minority to comply against their will or vise versa.

Isn't it amazing how much power can be delegated to the government, as long as it's sold in the name of safety? People have lost their mind with COVID and will readily give up any and all civil liberties as long as they feel safe, regardless if whether government can actually protect them or not. I wouldn't be so oppose to letting hypochondriacs live the way they want to live, except for the fact they wish to dictate how others should live, and demand government enforce those wishes. Can't do that.

[Cnut237]

Not taking the vaccine when offered is more similar to driving drunk than it is to driving without a belt. If you live within a society with other road-users, you can't say "driving whilst drunk is a personal liberty issue".

So basically what this point states is that if you refuse to take an experimental drug or vaccine you should not drive and only those who take experimental drugs or vaccines should be on the road. That's a ridiculous comparison/example to make.

Yes, that is quite a ridiculous point, I don't see why you're making it. Where do experimental drugs come into it? Not sure where driving comes into it, either. I was making an analogy.

The common good for society argument is moot when the tyranny of the majority gets to force the minority to comply against their will or vise versa.

"The tyranny of the majority"... a.k.a. democracy? Let me guess, it's only "tyranny of the majority" when you find yourself in the minority, and at other times you're fine with it?
Some guy wants to exercise his freedom to go into a public place with a gun and shoot random people. But the tyranny of the majority says he can't do that. Outrageous!  

Isn't it amazing how much power can be delegated to the government, as long as it's sold in the name of safety?

You might be surprised that I agree with this point. We saw it in the aftermath of 9/11, too, with for example the dramatic increase in surveillance from the Patriot Act, in the name of 'security'. A government (or company) will generally exploit any advantage it is given, and will generally attempt to frame it as something that is for the public good.
But this doesn't mean that everything is a lie. It doesn't mean that there isn't a global pandemic, and a respiratory virus that has killed millions, and hugely effective vaccines that have already saved millions of lives. Will governments try to exploit the situation to further their own ends? Sure, I'd be surprised if they didn't. Will some drug companies make huge profits? Again, yes, I'd be surprised if they didn't. But it doesn't mean the whole situation is artificial and engineered, it doesn't mean that vaccines are useless or not needed.