Gambling or playing?

[Vaskiy]

What's the need of mixing gambling with the underaged games. Even now without any form of gambling into the games, young generation is much into PUBG and few other games like freefire. When things get mixed with gambling the outcome will be more dangerous to the young generation. At this age they won't know to restrict them within the line to be on the safe side.

[dbc23]

Most time we tend to neglect the fact that information on the net is accessible to all. For underaged players I feel the only effect is becoming an addict too early which could still happen to an advanced person or some one who is qualified to play. But for the underaged player one can't stop them from exploring or shurfing the net. All that can be done is constant coaching and guidiance on how to control their quest to help prevent been addicted

[aysg76]

I am sure most of you have played videogames of one short or another and many have noticed that may offer gambling in-game options - I am thinking mostly of Role Games and MMPORGs -  like implementing a casino or some short of fortune game. As an old example, Fallout New Vegas has an in-built game called Caravans, but you can play blackjack, roulette, etc... Newer games that are free to play or cheap to play offer lotteries that award prices such as unique or rare in-game items...

There is currently quite an effort on using these techniques in games that should not be about gambling or chances playing and some people may find undesirable. Is this going too far? What type of effect may this game on underaged players?

The gaming community is enormous and we all like to play games and if this is mixed with gambling experience then it could provide a separate experience to gamblers and players and it is type of fun also like I remember when I was kid playing games on desktop was fun that could not be matched with any other thing in the world and surely now we are in gambling we can also have gambling related games but they should be age restricted so children don't get too much engaged in such games.

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

I am sure most of you have played videogames of one short or another and many have noticed that may offer gambling in-game options - I am thinking mostly of Role Games and MMPORGs -  like implementing a casino or some short of fortune game

In a game there must be a gambling system like that its part of their bussiness , especially in MMORPG and RNG system, but the main purpose is for gaming, but i think most of these games are not RMT allowed so basically its only Pay To Win feature they had. such gacha box . rolling dice, feels like a gamble but I guess that's just part of the pay to win they offer.

[semobo]

There is currently quite an effort on using these techniques in games that should not be about gambling or chances playing and some people may find undesirable. Is this going too far? What type of effect may this game on underaged players?

This is just the evolution of games in my opinion so the end-user needs to know or decide that whether they are gambling or playing it but I see those new implementations as a strategy to lure more players so they can make more money. And the age limit is there for every game but I bet no one is going to follow it, if there is a pop up which are are you over 18? then everyone is going to click 'yes'.

[goinmerry]

When things get mixed with gambling the outcome will be more dangerous to the young generation. At this age they won't know to restrict them within the line to be on the safe side.

Regardless, these young ones will still be exposed to gambling.

Putting an in-game gambling for the types of MMORPG games is not new as it's no difference when purchasing a VIP membership or in-game currency.

It will be a Pay to Win system and the majority of casual gamers aren't into that. Only whales of the game will surely bet on the gambling feature so it doesn't actually harm the young generations.

[Fortify]

I am sure most of you have played videogames of one short or another and many have noticed that may offer gambling in-game options - I am thinking mostly of Role Games and MMPORGs -  like implementing a casino or some short of fortune game. As an old example, Fallout New Vegas has an in-built game called Caravans, but you can play blackjack, roulette, etc... Newer games that are free to play or cheap to play offer lotteries that award prices such as unique or rare in-game items...

There is currently quite an effort on using these techniques in games that should not be about gambling or chances playing and some people may find undesirable. Is this going too far? What type of effect may this game on underaged players?

There is a line that you missed which has been integrated more and more in recent times, as payment abilities have caught up - microtransactions. Personally I find basic card games or virtual slots to be extremely unappealing, the only thrill you could possibly get from them is if they rewarded you with money after a bet. Modern videogames are hyper immersive environments however, even tricking the mind into hardcore adrenaline pumping because the graphics become so realistic. Microtransactions are the real hazard to young people as it can introduce them to paying for virtual trash, numbers in a database connected with some fancy artwork that will vanish as the game ages.

[Fatunad]

When things get mixed with gambling the outcome will be more dangerous to the young generation. At this age they won't know to restrict them within the line to be on the safe side.

Regardless, these young ones will still be exposed to gambling.

Putting an in-game gambling for the types of MMORPG games is not new as it's no difference when purchasing a VIP membership or in-game currency.

It will be a Pay to Win system and the majority of casual gamers aren't into that. Only whales of the game will surely bet on the gambling feature so it doesn't actually harm the young generations.

True, this had been existing for a while now because there are scenarios on where there's some spin a wheel option for you to take some possible good bonuses or items in the game
which simply a gamble in the sense that you would really be putting up money just for that specific chance to get the item but honestly it is still throwing off your money into something
which it isnt guaranteed but the whole concept was really just similar to gambling and you are right that young ones or those old fellas are already exposed to gambling
but in the sense or way of gaming but they arent aware on that.

[STT]

Gambling without money is normal, its only the money based risk which is a legal issue to any extent I think.   Gambling in games is already a thing due to loot drops and case opens and so on, as these are payable for money then its already a thing for quite some time now.   This not a small industry, I think it amounts to billions now and explains a large part of why free to play games are mainstream major titles now and the companies retailing them are valued as some of the largest companies on the planet.

[Slow death]

I am sure most of you have played videogames of one short or another and many have noticed that may offer gambling in-game options - I am thinking mostly of Role Games and MMPORGs -  like implementing a casino or some short of fortune game. As an old example, Fallout New Vegas has an in-built game called Caravans, but you can play blackjack, roulette, etc... Newer games that are free to play or cheap to play offer lotteries that award prices such as unique or rare in-game items...

There is currently quite an effort on using these techniques in games that should not be about gambling or chances playing and some people may find undesirable. Is this going too far? What type of effect may this game on underaged players?

children should stay away from anything that allows them to earn money playing because the chances of them becoming addicted, prostituting, stealing, killing for money is too high. most people, because of lack of attention when they were children, have become adults with inappropriate behaviors. I am in favor of restricting games of chance to children as much as possible, we don't want to have more addicted people out there, the disaster that addiction brings is something most of the time irreversible

And the age limit is there for every game but I bet no one is going to follow it, if there is a pop up which are are you over 18? then everyone is going to click 'yes'.

worse is that there are many 18 year olds who still need to mature and have responsibilities and when they are exposed to things like gambling they lose in the world of addiction

[crzy]

I am sure most of you have played videogames of one short or another and many have noticed that may offer gambling in-game options - I am thinking mostly of Role Games and MMPORGs -  like implementing a casino or some short of fortune game. As an old example, Fallout New Vegas has an in-built game called Caravans, but you can play blackjack, roulette, etc... Newer games that are free to play or cheap to play offer lotteries that award prices such as unique or rare in-game items...

There is currently quite an effort on using these techniques in games that should not be about gambling or chances playing and some people may find undesirable. Is this going too far? What type of effect may this game on underaged players?

Video games are fun to play but I doubt gamblers will spend too much time on this since many prefer an easy game to win like on slots game, roulette and card game but with regards to a video games, a serious one will be the one to adopt and some will just ignore it. Though the idea is great, you just have to know who is your target market and do necessary promotions to attract gamers and gamblers at the same time.

[just_Alice]

Generally, I think this is a good combination, but of course, it should be noted that this kind of games tend to be even more addictive, so it would be best if there were options for players whether they want the gambling feature implemented or not. The same goes for underaged players - at least there should be a warning sign or some sort of permission request.

But it's strictly the addiction part that concerns me here. If we're talking about the involvement of money in the gaming industry, it wouldn't be fair to blame the gambling part here, because, let's face it, nowadays almost ALL games, even the harmless ones designed for kids, involve money.
It's not necessary, but you always get these attractive propositions to pay for some sort of coins, equipping, or whatever, depends on the game you're playing, in order to advance.

[harizen]

There is currently quite an effort on using these techniques in games that should not be about gambling or chances playing and some people may find undesirable. Is this going too far? What type of effect may this game on underaged players?

I consider myself a gamer but as far as my knowledge is a concerned, I don't see yet an MMORPG or any likes that has a real gambling feature such as a casino so I can't start an argument or discussion about it.

In the game Fallout: New Vegas, the gambling purpose is intentional at this Fallout series. We won't see such a feature on the usual MMORPG.

My bottom line, for now, I doubt we will see a usual MMORPG that will implement a gambling with real money. But you know, they are already profiting from their own gacha system on which can be compared now as doing gambling since it needs money to purchase those credits.

[passwordnow]

Not that far. AFAIK, there are games like GTA that have an in-game casino mission and we all knew the success that the franchise of this game. But it's a good idea for those matured content and theme games to have in-game casinos that would give in-game items and if they can, it should be in crypto for easier access and faster transfers. I think MMORPGs can easily have it and IIRC, I've played one of it but it's not a common game. And this feature is the one that's being done by those Dapps and blockchain games.

[gagux123]

Look, this is an interesting question, but I'm a little doubtful, maybe I believe that KYC could be an advantage to separate people over 18 years old, and make it clear that in a given game there is the possibility of gambling.
I believe there are several factors that need to be analyzed

[DoublerHunter]

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There is currently quite an effort on using these techniques in games that should not be about gambling or chances playing and some people may find undesirable. Is this going too far? What type of effect may this game on underaged players?

Video games are fun to play but I doubt gamblers will spend too much time on this since many prefer an easy game to win like on slots game, roulette and card game but with regards to a video games, a serious one will be the one to adopt and some will just ignore it. Though the idea is great, you just have to know who is your target market and do necessary promotions to attract gamers and gamblers at the same time.

^ The perfect question is who are those your target and that is right, I even don't have an interest in this kind of game, I prefer to choose sports betting or those betting games that are based on the house edge because there is nothing for you to worry. Probably the MMORPG will start adopting BTC now and use this as payment but who knows this belongs to the revolution games someday.

[semobo]

And the age limit is there for every game but I bet no one is going to follow it, if there is a pop up which are are you over 18? then everyone is going to click 'yes'.

worse is that there are many 18 year olds who still need to mature and have responsibilities and when they are exposed to things like gambling they lose in the world of addiction

People who become very responsible in their teenage or even before that and still there are many guys out there who wants to hang out all night so its all depends on their lifestyle but over 18 is some kind of general thing since government can't evaluate each personals mental strength and allow them to gamble or not, even government is not going to care about it as long as they make revenue in the name of tax so as an individual we need to learn everything.

[Lanatsa]

And the age limit is there for every game but I bet no one is going to follow it, if there is a pop up which are are you over 18? then everyone is going to click 'yes'.

worse is that there are many 18 year olds who still need to mature and have responsibilities and when they are exposed to things like gambling they lose in the world of addiction

People who become very responsible in their teenage or even before that and still there are many guys out there who wants to hang out all night so its all depends on their lifestyle but over 18 is some kind of general thing since government can't evaluate each personals mental strength and allow them to gamble or not, even government is not going to care about it as long as they make revenue in the name of tax so as an individual we need to learn everything.

We would know sort of things as we do grow older and be aware and that would really be varying on someones experience in life  and its indeed differs on each personal mental strength on dealing up into something specially with gambling-like activities but when you are just young and not being aware then its most likely you would be ignoring it.

Its been already in ages that those gambling similar activity in online games or mmropgs is there ex. rolling roulettes or even showing off some random cards for items
and you've been paying for it.

Its a personal choice neither you do get involved with that or not.

[Darker45]

If there is no money involved or some kind of token or chip representing money, I think this doesn't fall under gambling in its strict sense. Underage kids are not prohibited to play roulette, blackjack, lotteries, and other games usually played with a wager or are closely attached to gambling. For as long as it is not played in gambling houses, casinos, or online gambling platforms and there's no money involved, I guess it is not illegal.

If these games are played with certain game items as prizes, I don't think it is already gambling. It is merely playing.

[virasisog]

It's not an issue I guess if the player is going to be honest about it's age, I mean only players that's age is 18 are the only ones who can access the gambling part of the game, they could ask for KYC verification for that part of the game to make sure that no underage are playing gambling instead of just MMORPG.

Adding gambling on a certain game means that they want to increase their revenue, simple as that, or they don't have the budget for another domain or team creating the gambling games alone.

Most players of course minor ignore this age restriction warning since all you need to do is to press that ypu are above 18 years of age. I am not seeing any issues here well it is up for minors' guardians to check their kids what kind of games they play.