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I have identified three (3) methods in which newbies announce themselves to the forum. In this post, I will analyse the three (3) methods and state the preferable method to adopt as a newbie.
1. Learn Before You Post 2. Post As You Learn 3. Post Without Learning.
Learn Before You Post: In this method, a newbie is expected to only read in the forum without creating a topic or replying a thread for some days. Read the rules and regulations of the forum, read posts majorly from Beginners and Help Board, open the profile of established members you admire and view last posts started by these people, read the posts of your fellow newbies with higher merit. With these, coupled with some information given you by someone who introduced you to the forum, you are good to go. This was actually the method I used, however, it is not the best method to use. In this method, you will suffer because, some established members might mistakenly think that you are someone's "Alt Account". If this happens, no matter how good your post would be as a newbie, those people will not merit it, they will think that it is one Hero or Legendary member that is behind the account.
Post as you Learn: This is the best method to adopt as a newbie. When you learn, you create posts asking questions where necessary. By this, people will see your willingness to learn and help you to grow.
Post Without Learning: Apart from this forum, you cannot excel in any organisation whether offline or online without knowing the organisation's dos and don'ts. Toeing this lane would be so disastrous, as you may end up spamming and causing nuisance in the system. In this category, some newbies will say they don't know that plagiarism is not allowed in the forum, as if there are forums where plagiarism is allowed.
Conclusion: Newbies, be open to learning even if not crypto related. You will discover that this forum will also improve your reasoning(analytical)skill, writing (typing) skill and your ability to associate reasonable with humanity.
I sincerely wish this can help some newbies. Thanks all!
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Post as you Learn: This is the best method to adopt as a newbie. When you learn, you create posts asking questions where necessary. By this, people will see your willingness to learn and help you to grow.
I agree with this to be the best method to adopt, besides other users seeing your willingness to learn, individuals learn faster when they discuss the topic they are trying to learn and you will also be able to correct wrong ideas you may have discovered online when you discuss it with others. I personally learnt more about topics I made threads on than those I simply read on and moved on. This was actually the method I used, however, it is not the best method to use. In this method, you will suffer because, some established members might mistakenly think that you are someone's "Alt Account". If this happens, no matter how good your post would be as a newbie, those people will not merit it, they will think that it is one Hero or Legendary member that is behind the account.
I do not think 'some days' is enough time for a newbie to post like a veteran on the forum, you'll only show knowledge on the basics of the forum and other topics that have interested you. I can however understand how an account could be mentally tagged to belong to an older member, but this shouldn't matter much down the road if the account keeps posting useful content and keeps to the rules.
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KingsDen (OP)
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July 14, 2021, 07:59:07 PM |
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I can however understand how an account could be mentally tagged to belong to an older member, but this shouldn't matter much down the road if the account keeps posting useful content and keeps to the rules.
Yes sir. It shouldn't matter in as much as the user remains consistent. It only posses temporal set back. On the long run, everyone aligns with one another.
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It is better not to post as soon as anyone comes to the forum. Everyone starts posting as soon as they come to the forum without following the rules. If you use serch batton,do not answer to you can use Google. If you think you can't understand the answer from Google, you can ask it in the forum. Post your question in that thread and you will get the appropriate answer.Newcomers will then be able to post with their quality,
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I don't think a beginner should think about it at all. You can say hello and complete a few assignments for newbies, and the loan is developed depending on his interests and preferences. Usually no one blames newbies for mistakes unless they write meaningless posts to increase statistics, but it's useless without getting merit.
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July 15, 2021, 02:19:58 AM |
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Or simply just don't announce yourself at all. Bitcointalk's just a forum(and a huge one) where like-minded people discuss about Bitcoin or cryptocurrencies in general. As long as you can discuss with us constructively, we really don't need to know your background.
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July 15, 2021, 02:37:06 AM |
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I don't think a beginner should think about it at all. You can say hello and complete a few assignments for newbies, and the loan is developed depending on his interests and preferences. Usually no one blames newbies for mistakes unless they write meaningless posts to increase statistics, but it's useless without getting merit.
You don't actually have to say hello. You don't have to announce your arrival in the forum. This is not like a standard classroom where your arrival or presence has to be noticed. Hello is a shitpost unless it comes with something constructive. There must be something wrong if a newbie is already thinking of numbers upon entry to the forum. I guess the number of posts, activities, merits come secondary. In the first place, it couldn't be a reason why one creates an account.
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July 15, 2021, 04:40:51 AM |
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It is better not to post as soon as anyone comes to the forum. Everyone starts posting as soon as they come to the forum without following the rules. If you use serch batton,do not answer to you can use Google. If you think you can't understand the answer from Google, you can ask it in the forum. Post your question in that thread and you will get the appropriate answer.Newcomers will then be able to post with their quality,
An introduction by a newbie to the community is highly acceptable. It is always a good way to inform the community your intention for being on the forum. Most newbies shy away with the introduction part or are busy with bounty from the beginning. The best board for introducing yourself is this one.
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July 15, 2021, 06:32:03 AM |
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Post as you Learn: This is the best method to adopt as a newbie. When you learn, you create posts asking questions where necessary. By this, people will see your willingness to learn and help you to grow.
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I'd like to suggest that newbies should learn how to search the "supposed question" first using either the Search function here in the forum or Google it out before attacking Meta/B&H with threads while the same/related question was answered in an old thread already.
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July 15, 2021, 07:19:45 AM |
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I'd like to suggest that newbies should learn how to search the "supposed question" first using either the Search function here in the forum or Google it out before attacking Meta/B&H with threads while the same/related question was answered in an old thread already.
There is hardly entirely new or an unanswered questions. Whenever a man wakes is his own morning. No crypto related question is totally useless. I suggest newbies should rather ask any questions, they'll surely see who is in the mood to answer.
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An introduction by a newbie to the community is highly acceptable. It is always a good way to inform the community your intention for being on the forum.
Sure, but this comes with an important caveat: Introductory threads: If you feel the need to post an introduction thread please take the effort to write something substantial or don't bother at all. Threads and post that contain only one word/sentence such as "hello & welcome to the forum" will be removed without warning as it causes unnecessary clutter.
People normally wouldn't care who you are or what your background is, especially in this community where privacy and anonymity are emphasized. It's probably only truly acceptable if it's mentioned in passing along with actual questions/topics you want to discuss. Everyone already knows you're a newbie at a glance from your post count/forum rank.
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Not sure if " announce" is the term you’re after here. It’s more in the line of the attitude and derived perception, although I get what you mean. You’re not talking about all these presentation threads that have been posted lately, which fall directly into the third category, and that are totally unnecessary here. Concerning the rules, when I joined the forum, I has no idea there were any rules. Being a rather anti-social media creature by nature, I had no prior knowledge of rules being a thing you has to be aware of. They are often referenced here though on this forum, so sooner rather than later you become acquainted to them. They are essentially rather natural, and it’s not as if any common person would contravene them by merely posting on the forum in a natural manner. Nevertheless, some more uncommon areas such as bounty hunting, giveaways and such have their rules and/or traditions that one needs to look through before approaching them, which are not intuitive (see for example this close shave). On the matter of Alts, people are really entitles to having them, providing they are not ban evading, participating in the same campaign with them, creating fake conversations, or meriting themselves. It’s down to being ethical with them more than technically compliant with the rules (which really only cover the ban evasion out of those mentioned here).
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This is quite informative is very important to read through the forum for some time before creating your post as a newbie in this way you have gained knowledge and also understand the rules of the forum.
Also, there are other sets of newbies who are also pro the category are the tech guys with technical knowledge of software and other computer aspects.
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This was actually the method I used, however, it is not the best method to use. In this method, you will suffer because, some established members might mistakenly think that you are someone's "Alt Account". If this happens, no matter how good your post would be as a newbie, those people will not merit it, they will think that it is one Hero or Legendary member that is behind the account. Owning alt-accounts isn't against forum rules. You are free to create 10 accounts if you like. However, different users have different views on that. If you are found abusing the same signature campaigns by enrolling your alts, meriting yourself, or giving yourself positive trust, you will probably get negatively tagged. You are not allowed to have an alt-account only if one of your previous accounts were banned. In this category, some newbies will say they don't know that plagiarism is not allowed in the forum, as if there are forums where plagiarism is allowed. Isn't Cryptotalk such a forum? Didn't members copy-paste a bunch of posts from Bitcointalk over there but also from other sources and their admins simply don't care? Maybe I'm wrong about this.
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@DdmrDdmr and @Pmalek thanks for the clarification. I read through rules of the forum and learnt that one can actually own an alt account. But, now I have known the reason it's frowned at; i.e when misused. However, building an account is difficult, why would someone who doesn't receive any kind of pay from the forum bother to build more than one account. I think alt account should be for established members who are not only motivated by passion for learning, but also monetary. It's difficult to commit time and intellect to what at the moment doesn't put food on the table.
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Alt accounts can be created for numerous purposes, not necessarily related to anything wrongful, such as (but not limited to): - Separating a bounty account from a discussion account. - Separating a business account from a discussion account. - Distinguishing between when one is fully focused in their posting, from when one is posting on the move. - Separating the main account from other accounts related to building services around the forum (i.e. scrapers, legit bots, etc.). - Shielding behind a new account to express opinions or report on accounts, while not wanting this to be linked to the main account. - One can have multiple accounts to enrol in different campaigns, providing the rules are met and the ethics clean and square (as I mentioned previously). I’ve got a couple Alts I recall: One to scrape information from the forum, and another to block the name from being used by anybody else (both with 0 post).
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Another purpose is when one is on untrusted device or location as well. I recall LoyceV has LoyceMobile for that purpose.
I am kind of considering making an alt from what happened to me here - [Is there such thing as a malware that would make me automatically post?]But since the lockdown here in my country is really strict and I can't go around that much to make me able to use the forum in other locations too much, I am not doing it just yet.
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Newbies don't need to announce that they are newbies or let other knows they just create their accounts.
They have freedom to announce it but it is unnecessary. They should read, learn and create topics when they need to ask anything. If they can find answers with search, don't post, don't create topic, keep learn with results they found, and keep doing this.
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Bitcointalk.org is a great discussion forum for anyone if they are coming for learning purposes. The average forum user at first is not a user who understand enough about rule, tradition and other thing so it take time, effort, and consistency to apply his knowledge naturally through posting. Anyone is free to talk anything as long as it is written in a good and easy to understand way, it doesn't matter if they still don't know much about forum, crypto and others and they are also allowed to ask anything that still confuses them.
Since the purpose of each user forum is different, it may be easy for you to identify which ones are genuinely interested in learning and which ones are not. I am one of the users who was born after the merit system was implemented in the forum, I quite understand how a beginner must have high strength and intention to learn to be a useful user here both for himself (learning) and others. Without interest and consistency, we are all just walking in the dark on a dead end.
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How many tips are there on what novices do not need to communicate about themselves? BUT the irony is that they don't read here. People who accidentally end up on the forum, from an interest in bitcoin, and not in earnings, do not shout about their appearance. I think that everyone has already understood this. How do you behave when you arrive in a new place? You are looking around, aren't you? But many come and start to create topics about their arrival, and even begin to teach everyone how everyone should behave here. What kind of reaction do they want in return? I watched the posts of old members who have come to the forum for a long time. Well, nowhere did I see them shouting about themselves "I came" Modesty adorns a person.
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