Forum Members Using Purchased Accounts For Signature/Bounty Income

[JollyGood]

self-moderated in order to stop this thread being ruined by signature spammers and trolls

I recently created a thread about apa don (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1317853) using a purchased account, I thought was trying to build it up and use as one of his farmed accounts which as being used to generate signature campaign fees. A special thank you to lovesmayfamilis because after some excellent work he showed some other accounts connected to apa don which he listed in that thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5350485

I then spotted several other accounts which were probably not associated with apa don but were not being operated by the original user therefore I decided I should post about them. It is not right to make a thread for each and every alt-account therefore time permitting I will update this thread periodically and encourage others to post here with details about those that are bounty and signature campaign abusers and/or are operating farmed accounts.

[JollyGood]

I spotted member dezoel (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=311970) make a post in the Bustabit thread and it seemed like a half-hearted attempt at making a post for the sake of making a post for the sake of getting signature campaign fees. I wish I had not looked at previous posting history but I did and had no choice after that but to tag the account. I think this person is operating several accounts simply because of the way he posted almost immediately seeking his signature campaign fee.

It seems between post #428 and #427 some interesting events occurred, that would be between April 2017 and November 2020. The commas and spacing seems to have improved drastically. The level of English has jumped up from bordering low-level non-native to excellent level native. In fact his English has improved so much so that he no longer writes in the Indonesian local board.

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All the posts it seems since the 2.5 years the account remained inactive have two paragraphs at the very least and they have a certain amount of minimum characters to obtain the signature campaign fee. Either the account changed hands or dezoel learned excellent English while being away from this forum. I am not giving him the benefit of the doubt but he can sign an address if he wants to - that will make things interesting  

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[JollyGood]

Not that this thread became prominent but as I noticed a post today by a member called dezoel and he had a negative tag. He posted in my [ POLL ] The Rematch: FURY vs USYK 21st December 2024 thread therefore I decided to post here.

The campaign operated by Stake is (with the exception of a select few reputable members) full of signature spammers and those with trust/feedback no campaign manager in their right mind would consider for selection yet one after another the Stake campaign manager is rewarding them regardless of the perception of how counterproductive it is  

As Carollzinha has not logged in since 18th November 2024, is he still their campaign manager?

[yahoo62278]

Not that this thread became prominent but as I noticed a post today by a member called dezoel and he had a negative tag. He posted in my [ POLL ] The Rematch: FURY vs USYK 21st December 2024 thread therefore I decided to post here.

The campaign operated by Stake is (with the exception of a select few reputable members) full of signature spammers and those with trust/feedback no campaign manager in their right mind would consider for selection yet one after another the Stake campaign manager is rewarding them regardless of the perception of how counterproductive it is 

Is Carollzinha has not logged in since 18th November 2024, is he still their campaign manager?

Carroll still manages the campaign as far as I know. If I have an issue, I still go to her and get things taken care of. They have a team that check posts as well and Igebotz is on that team I believe.

Is tagging these accounts for being sold the correct move? They have 0 positive trust and are not trying to insert themselves into any prestigious positions in the community. I think neutral would suffice. If they had some green trust I would want to be a little more aggressive on tagging.

Kind of brings up an interesting topic as to whether we should look the other way concerning bought/sold account? I know most are against account sales, but I also know that many here have engaged in the activity at some point. I know there are a few old school lenders that have bought and sold a few accounts and some are still in possession of some of those accounts. Not sure how many are used for sig campaigns, but .......

[JeromeTash]

Is tagging these accounts for being sold the correct move? They have 0 positive trust and are not trying to insert themselves into any prestigious positions in the community. I think neutral would suffice. If they had some green trust I would want to be a little more aggressive on tagging.

In my opinion, I believe identifying and tagging them whether on zero positive trust or not is still the best way forward because the new person behind the account isn't the original one. If the person who purchased the good account had any good intentions in the forum from the start, then they would just create a new account, beginning that long journey in the forum like most of us.

In short, tagging or discouraging account sales;
1. Reduces account theft and hacking.
2. Minimizes bounty and signature campaign cheating
3. Minimizes account farming

A good example of why account sales or change of ownerships should highly be discourage is this loan fraud case - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5521225.0

[yahoo62278]

Is tagging these accounts for being sold the correct move? They have 0 positive trust and are not trying to insert themselves into any prestigious positions in the community. I think neutral would suffice. If they had some green trust I would want to be a little more aggressive on tagging.

In my opinion, I believe identifying and tagging them whether on zero positive trust or not is still the best way forward because the new person behind the account isn't the original one. If the person who purchased the good account had any good intentions in the forum from the start, then they would just create a new account, beginning that long journey in the forum like most of us.

In short, tagging or discouraging account sales;
1. Reduces account theft and hacking.
2. Minimizes bounty and signature campaign cheating
3. Minimizes account farming

A good example of why account sales or change of ownerships should highly be discourage is this loan fraud case - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5521225.0

If the accounts are neutral tagged, managers will likely skip over them in the application process. Either way, we don't know who owns what or how many account overall, so I don't feel like anything would really be minimized. That goes for farms as well, wasn't there a thread of a guy who controlled or supposedly controlled over 100 accounts? I'm sure that person isn't the only 1.