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August 18, 2021, 02:47:50 AM
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I am quite surprised that even in a country so strict against gambling that it still exists. Perhaps gambling could be interpreted as second nature to man.

Saudi Arabia is the capital country for Muslims and as such it gives so much value to the rules of the Quran and what is haram is to be avoided at all costs, otherwise you will suffer the punishment for its commission. And yet it seems to me that these pictures are real. Perhaps as swogerino mentioned the country doesn't mind this if the ones involved are foreigners.
So even that is in Saudi Arabia, that will not stop people from gambling.

Possibly, but I think the existence of illegal gambling continues partly because the Saudi Arabia government is not so strict about it, especially if those gambling activities do not involve locals or Muslims. But if the Saudi government is really serious in cracking down on these illegal gambling activities, I don't think this will continue. We all know how strict the country is in terms of penalizing law breakers. If I am a gambler and I am in Saudi and the country is strictly implementing anti-gambling measures,  I would rather abide by it. I wouldn't want to get jailed and get whipped daily for it.
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August 18, 2021, 03:52:12 AM
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In the middle east where casinos are legal gambling accounts for about 80 percent of all sports revenue. There is also a culture of legal and illegal horse racing in iraq and the united arab emirates gambling and casinos, even online gambling, are legal in the UAE but gambling is done and when caught it is published in the media. But in early april this year a picture and video of saudi arabia went viral on facebook and other social media. Saudi Arabia is a muslim state and gambling is illegal in the muslim religion therefore there is a system of severe punishment for violating the law.
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August 18, 2021, 03:57:17 AM
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Islam religion is against gambling. Saudi Arabia is one of the country that strictly follows the laws mentioned in Quran. So, there is no chance of such thing to happen in Saudi Arabia. This seems to be a manipulated image. Arabs are found around the globe enjoying luxury with the money out of oil. Maybe these are some of those Arabs enjoying out of the country.

Even in Islam religion people are there who gamble and do things that are against Quran, but Saudi Arabia government never allows it within the country.

Are they able to gamble while outside their country?
I'm not sure if I have seen an Arab man playing in a casino wearing their traditional dress but there are some people that looked like an Arab playing in casino.
But how do they able to go to a casino and play if they have not learned to gamble in their country - They must have been playing casino games probably in their backyard.

How about playing the game without betting money, is it allowed?


Not all Arabs follow Islam, Arabic does not mean Islam, many of them gamble in secret. Even though they live in a predominantly Muslim area, and apply Islamic rules, that doesn't mean they can't gamble. We just don't know. why do i talk like that? because my mother used to work there and witnessed the identical Arabs wearing their traditional clothes gambling. So we cannot generalize this unilaterally when applying Islamic rules. Because of course Islam forbids gambling.

Well, that makes sense. Not all Arabs are Muslims that have this law. Gambling is entertainment, having luck on your side is fun for any person regardless of the laws though. We've seen a Chinese man gambling like it's their last night on earth but not in China.

Congregations have so many laws of their own. They are saying drinking alcohol is not allowed but the pastor himself drinks rum in a far away city.

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August 18, 2021, 04:31:35 AM
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I claim that a group of men dressed in ghutrah (typical Middle Eastern clothing) playing cards or gambling in the first largest center in Saudi Arabia is a HOAX.
The events in the video are the first official matches of the card game baloot, a French card game popular in Saudi Arabia, and the location in the video is not a room used for gambling. but the location of the baloot card tournament event which is held for 4 days.
and this competition was organized by the General Entertainment Authority of the Saudi Government and was attended by 12 thousand participants.


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August 18, 2021, 06:51:41 AM
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I don't know much about the site. I just searched about muslims gambling on google and that was of one of the sites in evidence also displaying the images posted by OP. I thought interesting because it was a self-claimed muslim site sharing their view on that specific situation. Anyway, the information in the article about the prominent Imam in the images are true and he has a background of liberal statements considering his religion standards.
Hmmm, thanks for the info @uneng
I confess that I found it a bit contradictory and I was even surprised, as I believe that the Muslim religion does not allow these kinds of things.

With these kinds of things happening all over the world, we see how things have changed over time.

How many did really actually play gambling on that particular area?It is a gambling establishment or  just inside of someones  home?When it  comes to regulation
then  for  sure they are really strict on implementing about those rules specially with prohibition.

Just as @Lanatsa mentioned above that it is a haram thing on  Islam then it is really surprising that they are really doing gambling.
If they do really like to play then they are aware on the prohibitions that had  been  set.
Look, I don't really know, but let's see how these kinds of things are going to be in the future, whether gambling is going to stay in Muslim countries or not.
As I don't understand very well about this subject, I can't give a concrete opinion about it.

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August 18, 2021, 07:36:14 AM
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I am quite surprised that even in a country so strict against gambling that it still exists. Perhaps gambling could be interpreted as second nature to man.

Saudi Arabia is the capital country for Muslims and as such it gives so much value to the rules of the Quran and what is haram is to be avoided at all costs, otherwise you will suffer the punishment for its commission. And yet it seems to me that these pictures are real. Perhaps as swogerino mentioned the country doesn't mind this if the ones involved are foreigners.
So even that is in Saudi Arabia, that will not stop people from gambling.

Possibly, but I think the existence of illegal gambling continues partly because the Saudi Arabia government is not so strict about it, especially if those gambling activities do not involve locals or Muslims. But if the Saudi government is really serious in cracking down on these illegal gambling activities, I don't think this will continue. We all know how strict the country is in terms of penalizing law breakers. If I am a gambler and I am in Saudi and the country is strictly implementing anti-gambling measures,  I would rather abide by it. I wouldn't want to get jailed and get whipped daily for it.
If the Saudi Arabia government is not too strict about gambling, the illegal casino will still have a place among their people and they will still play gambling in that hidden places.
We know that illegal casino can be everywhere without the government can track the places.
But if the government apply a strict rule for their people who are caught playing gambling, maybe that can reduce the number of people who will play gambling.
Or they can still play online gambling instead to go to the hidden casino because the risk will be too big compare to if they play in the online casino.

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August 18, 2021, 03:38:40 PM
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I claim that a group of men dressed in ghutrah (typical Middle Eastern clothing) playing cards or gambling in the first largest center in Saudi Arabia is a HOAX.
The events in the video are the first official matches of the card game baloot, a French card game popular in Saudi Arabia, and the location in the video is not a room used for gambling. but the location of the baloot card tournament event which is held for 4 days.
and this competition was organized by the General Entertainment Authority of the Saudi Government and was attended by 12 thousand participants.

Regardless of whether it is true or not in the video, we try to straighten out various speculations that are often cornered by the religious system and the rule of law in it.
So you have shown evidence that it is a competition, while gambling has various types, not all competitions are gambling, and not every gambling is a competition, in which there is only entertainment.

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August 18, 2021, 03:39:49 PM
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Well, that makes sense. Not all Arabs are Muslims that have this law. Gambling is entertainment, having luck on your side is fun for any person regardless of the laws though. We've seen a Chinese man gambling like it's their last night on earth but not in China.

Congregations have so many laws of their own. They are saying drinking alcohol is not allowed but the pastor himself drinks rum in a far away city.


That's what I want to say, I represent that in fact I dare not mention the priest also drinks *******, so the conclusion is that we need to look at this case from a wider perspective. Because it is not good to generalize to a certain group who is afraid of hurting followers of other religions.

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August 18, 2021, 09:17:01 PM
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Well, that makes sense. Not all Arabs are Muslims that have this law. Gambling is entertainment, having luck on your side is fun for any person regardless of the laws though. We've seen a Chinese man gambling like it's their last night on earth but not in China.

Congregations have so many laws of their own. They are saying drinking alcohol is not allowed but the pastor himself drinks rum in a far away city.


That's what I want to say, I represent that in fact I dare not mention the priest also drinks *******, so the conclusion is that we need to look at this case from a wider perspective. Because it is not good to generalize to a certain group who is afraid of hurting followers of other religions.
Though some are really violating the law and their religions law, most of them are really not its just that they are came from a country that gambling is restricted so when they travel abroad, they are free to do whatever they want especially with regards to gambling because they know its not illegal and they are not Muslims at all. That picture will tell a different story, let’s not judge yet and let’s respect their decision to gamble not unless its really illegal.

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August 18, 2021, 09:25:58 PM
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They don’t allow gambling in the natural sense of it in Saudi Arabia, people have to use VPN and can, thus, only engage in online gambling. Still, it’s prohibited.
^ I think the reason why those big online companies showing ads about gambling is just because of the ads and that it is. There is no prohibition because we know they are a big online company that has to promote online ads and I think there is no problem. The only problem is when people start gambling but I don't know how many of them there are honest and did not really gamble using the internet, you can use a different strategy just to gamble, and even using VPN is one of the solutions that you can hide your IP address and also your name and go-to online games.
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Well, that makes sense. Not all Arabs are Muslims that have this law. Gambling is entertainment, having luck on your side is fun for any person regardless of the laws though. We've seen a Chinese man gambling like it's their last night on earth but not in China.

Congregations have so many laws of their own. They are saying drinking alcohol is not allowed but the pastor himself drinks rum in a far away city.


That's what I want to say, I represent that in fact I dare not mention the priest also drinks *******, so the conclusion is that we need to look at this case from a wider perspective. Because it is not good to generalize to a certain group who is afraid of hurting followers of other religions.
Though some are really violating the law and their religions law, most of them are really not its just that they are came from a country that gambling is restricted so when they travel abroad, they are free to do whatever they want especially with regards to gambling because they know its not illegal and they are not Muslims at all. That picture will tell a different story, let’s not judge yet and let’s respect their decision to gamble not unless its really illegal.
If those are known illegal acts then it wouldnt really much an issue. Why? Looking at those images and the status of those men playing then you could really tell that those are billionaires and even if they would be penalized or having those bail then it wouldnt really be that much of a problem since they can pay it easily.This is why im not surprised that there would really be those people who doesnt really care on violating something specially they do know that they could really pay it up without any problems.This doesnt only apply on gambling activities but also in other situations as well on where you do have the money then you could really have the power and the right on doing things that you do have in mind without minding anything.

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However, if you look again at Youtube, they (the Arabs) are actually playing real casino gambling.

So, that makes me curious and wondering about the casino gambling on Youtube and the google image is true or a hoax....!
What is the response about Islamic countries and their laws prohibiting gambling, but the opposite.

Note: Youtube (gambling in saudi arabia) you can search for yourself i have no right to display it here.

The picture or images does not represent the real events that took place here is the caption on one of the pictures displayed on Good research

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As per news from Saudi media, almost 12.000 people gathered to attend Saudi Arabia’s first card-tournament, and the game is known as ‘Baloot’. There is no gambling involved as the game is more of an international sport and does not involve players exchanging money, as it is done in gambling games.

It may look that they are gambling but they are playing a traditional card game that does not involve trading money a senior cleric is hosting the event, he will not let gambling to happen in an even t he is hosting it's against Muslim laws.

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The picture or images does not represent the real events that took place here is the caption on one of the pictures displayed on Good research

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As per news from Saudi media, almost 12.000 people gathered to attend Saudi Arabia’s first card-tournament, and the game is known as ‘Baloot’. There is no gambling involved as the game is more of an international sport and does not involve players exchanging money, as it is done in gambling games.

It may look that they are gambling but they are playing a traditional card game that does not involve trading money a senior cleric is hosting the event, he will not let gambling to happen in an even t he is hosting it's against Muslim laws.
I think it's hypocrisy of that site to say it's not gambling justifying it's a sport instead. If we think that way all gambling games could be considered sport for recreation purposes then, including the cards games like Poker. Moreover the site says those pictures don't show a gambling event because there isn't money involved, but right after they say this:
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The 4-day event of the Baloot Championship is offering a total prize of one million Saudi riyals ($270,000) for the top four teams.
There is actually money in the tournament for the winners, just like in gambling. Even if there were no bets these news are clearly minimizing the gambling characteristic of the tournament to pretend Saudi Arabia is free from gambling influences especially among religious people. For a traditional muslim it's unnaceptable anyway, just like that site also said:
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Sheikh Adel al-Kalbani, a senior Muslim cleric, was the host of the event on its opening day, and many have criticized his attendance in the tournament.

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The picture or images does not represent the real events that took place here is the caption on one of the pictures displayed on Good research

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As per news from Saudi media, almost 12.000 people gathered to attend Saudi Arabia’s first card-tournament, and the game is known as ‘Baloot’. There is no gambling involved as the game is more of an international sport and does not involve players exchanging money, as it is done in gambling games.

It may look that they are gambling but they are playing a traditional card game that does not involve trading money a senior cleric is hosting the event, he will not let gambling to happen in an even t he is hosting it's against Muslim laws.

I was also with the impression that the pictures shown in the OP are not images of illegal and underground gambling. The setting looks organized and even the people who are playing look like they're devote Muslims. They simply don't look like they're doing something illegal in a hidden place.

There must simply be a misunderstanding about these images. Perhaps these were wrongfully interpreted to be gambling because the games are mostly card games which are usually played with bets. The setup also looks like a gambling setup.

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With some google search I found that the images shown is actually from Baroot not in Saudi Arabia but it went viral and also reached the government as well. Another article says that Prince of Saudi is building a 5 star hotel which includes a betting casino as well but now sure how accurate this news is about but the hotel is yet to be open and it will take one or two years for the project to be completed.
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With some google search I found that the images shown is actually from Baroot not in Saudi Arabia but it went viral and also reached the government as well. Another article says that Prince of Saudi is building a 5 star hotel which includes a betting casino as well but now sure how accurate this news is about but the hotel is yet to be open and it will take one or two years for the project to be completed.

I agree on the images and the exact articles are two different things, you have to read those articles to get the real picture it's very misleading just looking at the pictures but Googler only caches these images for search engine searches, these articles that wrote about the events should delete these images so it will not show up in the search engine images again.
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With some google search I found that the images shown is actually from Baroot not in Saudi Arabia but it went viral and also reached the government as well. Another article says that Prince of Saudi is building a 5 star hotel which includes a betting casino as well but now sure how accurate this news is about but the hotel is yet to be open and it will take one or two years for the project to be completed.

I agree on the images and the exact articles are two different things, you have to read those articles to get the real picture it's very misleading just looking at the pictures but Googler only caches these images for search engine searches, these articles that wrote about the events should delete these images so it will not show up in the search engine images again.
There are different ways to report the fake websites which contains misleading information but its a long and legal process so no one is going to put their effort to take down it, we sre the one have to change our behaviour while surfing internet and double checking the new information we gather will stop these false news.
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With some google search I found that the images shown is actually from Baroot not in Saudi Arabia but it went viral and also reached the government as well. Another article says that Prince of Saudi is building a 5 star hotel which includes a betting casino as well but now sure how accurate this news is about but the hotel is yet to be open and it will take one or two years for the project to be completed.
I agree on the images and the exact articles are two different things, you have to read those articles to get the real picture it's very misleading just looking at the pictures but Googler only caches these images for search engine searches, these articles that wrote about the events should delete these images so it will not show up in the search engine images again.
There are different ways to report the fake websites which contains misleading information but its a long and legal process so no one is going to put their effort to take down it, we sre the one have to change our behaviour while surfing internet and double checking the new information we gather will stop these false news.

I agree instead of bothering to report misleading information, it is better that we ourselves must be careful in receiving the news that we get on
the internet. Because we know a lot of fake news spread on the internet, so doing a double check should be done, in order to validate the news
that we get. Because many websites often provide fake news, only to go viral and attract the number of visitors who come to their website.

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These are just images it's different from the real stories, a blog, video, or article platform can post different images far different from what they are posting, it's important that you read the whole article by checking where the images are coming from to verify the whole story when it comes to something about the laws and religion, the fact is very important.

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As far as I know, there are no public casinos in Saudi Arabian cities but it's apparently hugely popular among the local UAE wealthy so maybe you saw images of that.

(or maybe as someone above said, they are located in another arab country.)

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