Ethics of boxing and gambling

[paxmao]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

[Oasisman]

I don't know man, but MMA is more brutal than boxing.
The question still remains when most people are against violence and brutality, but here we are watching a "legal" brutal fight live and enjoyed the fight and worse placing a bet on whose to win the fight.
My mind literally blew when some group of people who are against cock fighting because it was considered as animal cruelty, but how come they have no voice against human brutality lol.

Anyway, combat sports is supposed to have protective gears, but I don't know why international combat sports only wears a minimal protective gears, limited to only mouth pieces and nothing more especially in boxing and MMA.
I guess people really love to watch combat sports without any protective gears, thus boxing and MMA organizers did all they can to legalise this kind of sport because it generates a very huge income.

[Vaskiy]

It is really painful to watch players shedding their blood, same time people have started to enjoy it. Myself used to move to another channel, because I don't have the ability to watch a person shedding blood.

For the question, Is this ethical My answer to it, No it is unethical. When something has got money and is made a business, people forget about ethics and the money is being enjoyed. There are people who enjoy pain, and those enjoy pain loves watching it. What I've mentioned is my view and if it hurts anyone by any means, I'm sorry for the same.

[Yaunfitda]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

Not boxing, if you wanted to question a sport discipline then you have to look at American Football. Those guys brutally hit each other day in day out and there are records showing that majority of them suffered brain trauma that resulted in CTE. Not sure if you are familiar with the Aaron Hernandez case.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Hernandez

I think we shouldn't used boxing as an example, modern MMA is much brutal than boxing.

[Slow death]

I know many people bet on boxing matches

I don't bet on things that involve fights and blood, I don't watch MMA, but there are times when I see some videos out of conscience and for that reason I get to know the names of some fighters, the same happens with boxi, I don't watch and I don't bet in boxi... I don't understand why people are happy to watch MMA, that is something much more violent

and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament".

every year people manage to create more violent things, yesterday I watched a video where there was a slap contest, which shocked me more Is that there were two women, one was strong and the other thin, I couldn't see what criteria they use in this type of slapping tournaments , besides that I can't help thinking that it can damage the ear

how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported?

I do not understand either. then there are people who are watching and enjoying it and the next day they are on the streets demonstrating against violence

And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

in this world there are things that are hard to understand

[qwertyup23]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

Betting on violence stems from the history of the romans- that is why they constructed the coliseum in order to witness such fights.

As time passed by, the violence lessened and it became what it is today. Fortunately, boxing is considered as a sport and it has been regulated over the years. The rules and restrictions are now strictly imposed and tight health waivers are signed- that is why I do not see any ethical reason on why boxing is considered unethical in terms of gambling.

[Kittygalore]

I do think that in ethically speaking if both fighters are consenting with the fight, it should proceed. In my opinion, fighting sports are designed to be bloody as much as possible and it's in the human race's DNA to have or enjoy bloodsport since most of our time in this planet has been wars and murders. Also, if we were to remove this sports due to "ethical" reasons, the fighters would lose their purpose since that's all they knew all their life.

[yazher]

People do what they want every time they want something to happen, especially when it comes to gambling when the pandemic is still at an early stage. There wasn't any match in boxing at all for months. Do you believe what the people in our city did? they found some alternatives which are I found worst than seeing people fighting in the ring. They bet on the poor Beta Fish to fight till one of them runs with fatigue. There's no time and referees to stop the fight when the other fish has no strength to fight back, It's just total brutality for both fishes. Addiction is one of the scariest things if one can't regain back himself. If they can let the ants fight with each other, they would have than that to suffice their hunger on gambling.

[finaleshot2016]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

If you only know or are familiar with how other MMA sports can result in an athlete's abrupt death, it's different level too. Boxing is equally tough, but when compared to the boxing of the past, it is far more bloody, and many athletes have died as a result of boxing. The current era of boxing right now is in high ground, it was running by the money, now related to business and promotions, everyone's showing skill but the winner is already marked. So I don't have any problems in the slapping tournament, for sure those who're joining that tournament are well trained and prolly have a good physical body to endure the pain but yeah, still dangerous tho like other MMA sports.

[freedomgo]

Boxing is a dangerous sport, but there are only a few cases where a boxer dies in the ring and that would not stop boxing sports. As a boxer, make sure you are fit enough and ready to take the punches in case you get hit, it's already in our culture, one of the most popular sports and I don't think it will be ban, maybe they'll change the rules but it will exist.

Look, there are a lot of boxers that suffers heavy beating in the ring and loss, but they recovered, so boxing is not really that dangerous for every boxer that they could die when heavily hit.

[bisdak40]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

There are more brutal sports than boxing like MMA but as far as boxing is concern, they have made some improvements/adjustments to make fighters safer like the reduction on the number of rounds from 15 to only 12. Boxers are aware of the dangers that they are into and boxing officials always reminded them to protect themselves at all times.

If you are a fan of this sweet science and there is a gambling opportunity on this, the temptation to bet is hard to resist but I can say that it depends on one's culture.

Some people around the world criticize people who bet on two cocks killing each other while allowing elephants to perform in a circus which for me is more unethical.

[rhomelmabini]

Contact sports are dangerous sports so more with boxing, they're totally risking their lives over it. I don't know much about the ethicality of the sport and maybe they make it legally because it's been backed by these huge names behind the industry. I'm not saying it's ethically solely but on the legal side I guess it depends professionally.

[Viscore]

I'm glad you brought this topic, well, honestly, I think it's a risky sport and it should not be called as sports, but we can't do anything as it's been here even before and this sport is attracting a lot of people and they are willing to pay just to watch a fight. In the early years, as we can see in the movie, sports are already there, warrior to warrior and one could kill the other, we don't want to see that as we don't want to see one could harm the other.

This sport is a contact sport, if we don't want the sport, then let's just don't want it so it will not affect us.

Accept the reality that not all that we see in this world can be appreciated.

[Fundamentals Of]

There is full willingness on the part of the athletes. There is full awareness of the various possibilities when they're engaged in the sports. There is no presence of external coercion. The athletes are not in any way forced to do their thing. Aside from that, the athletes are definitely informed of the health implications of their trainings, diets, supplements, fight, etc. Everything is well-monitored, regulated, and bound to follow certain sets of standards. On top of it all, they're paid to do it. So I don't think there is a question of legality and ethics. The athletes are completely free to say yes or no.

[palle11]

Just like every other sports, there are risk in all of them , boxing is not exception. We have all seen, read and heard of footballers dieing on the pitch while playing or hitting each other while contesting for ball on air.

So many games are dangerous but I think boxing is more of deliberate act to hit and cause harm to the other or weaken the other to surrender to the opponent supremacy. This is the reason that they sign contract to fight each other through there managers and promoters who initiate the fight and the regulators set rules of officiating the match for both parties so that whoever goes against the rule maybe disqualified. The organizers understand the gravity of risk involved in it and they set such roles. Apart from boxing, there are other games that are more deadly and risky like kick boxing.

[YOSHIE]

If a slap sports match is at stake in gambling then it is very difficult to judge the winning and losing of the participants, although they have to pass several health tests before starting the contest globally healthy and strong.

In a slap fight, only those played with hands / slaps without any body movement, such as boxing, Whoever can withstand the slap wins, in this contest defeat is determined by the opponent who is unable to withstand the slap.

This contest is very different from boxing in general, only playing hands, while boxing is generally the whole body starting from the feet / hands has defense and strength, so you can judge from the body that will win and lose, while the slap fights are all big bodies, but their target is only one cheek that moves only the hand.

And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

this is what is doubtful, even though the slapping contest was first held in 2018, I haven't found a reason that this slap contest is worth it or not to say it's legal and the like.
I think it's a strange but real sport.

[Obito]

I don't think that ethics in gambling is that strict or even at sports, as long as you don't do anything illegal that can make you much more stronger or ahead of your opponent, you are good to go. For me, ethics is just something that we created so we can have some sort of order in control over the population so as to not make a lawless land.

[alegotardo]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

Everything is a matter of perspective.
We see, for example, the F1 races that pay much more risk to the lives of the participants than boxing, but nobody thinks about banning them despite the countless deaths that have already occurred.
Boxing doesn't encourage violence, so much so that discipline is one of the main principles among those who practice any sport like "fighting" between participants, but many peoples see brutality and bloodshed as something too horrifying to be called a sport.
I used to be like that too, but I realized that everything is a question of culture, which for some is normal for others is unacceptable. We can't judge.

[mu_enrico]

Ethics is a wide topic and you will only find people disagreeing about things if you didn't mention what philosophy/theory used in this discussion, e.g., utilitarian, contract, virtue, etc. Let's say we judge it based on the benefit of the combined industries (boxing and betting), it creates massive jobs for the gym, event organizer, tv, boxers, etc., and many people rely on this industry, hence it's ethical. The fighting and the betting is done with consent, so why not?

[iv4n]

I believe under certain conditions boxing (or any other fighting sport) is ethical! Nobody likes to see big guy beating little guy, so there are different ranks heavyweight, lightweight, etc...
Some people really like to test strength and endurance... we can think of it from different perspectives, is it ethical, normal, crazy... but these guys like that, and who are we to tell them that's not ethical or legal, or I don't know what... we can only get beaten up! So we should better let them fight in the ring, and enjoy watching and sometimes betting on them!