Ethics of boxing and gambling

[paxmao]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

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[Oasisman]

I don't know man, but MMA is more brutal than boxing.
The question still remains when most people are against violence and brutality, but here we are watching a "legal" brutal fight live and enjoyed the fight and worse placing a bet on whose to win the fight.
My mind literally blew when some group of people who are against cock fighting because it was considered as animal cruelty, but how come they have no voice against human brutality lol.

Anyway, combat sports is supposed to have protective gears, but I don't know why international combat sports only wears a minimal protective gears, limited to only mouth pieces and nothing more especially in boxing and MMA.
I guess people really love to watch combat sports without any protective gears, thus boxing and MMA organizers did all they can to legalise this kind of sport because it generates a very huge income.

[Vaskiy]

It is really painful to watch players shedding their blood, same time people have started to enjoy it. Myself used to move to another channel, because I don't have the ability to watch a person shedding blood.

For the question, Is this ethical My answer to it, No it is unethical. When something has got money and is made a business, people forget about ethics and the money is being enjoyed. There are people who enjoy pain, and those enjoy pain loves watching it. What I've mentioned is my view and if it hurts anyone by any means, I'm sorry for the same.

[Yaunfitda]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

Not boxing, if you wanted to question a sport discipline then you have to look at American Football. Those guys brutally hit each other day in day out and there are records showing that majority of them suffered brain trauma that resulted in CTE. Not sure if you are familiar with the Aaron Hernandez case.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Hernandez

I think we shouldn't used boxing as an example, modern MMA is much brutal than boxing.

[Slow death]

I know many people bet on boxing matches

I don't bet on things that involve fights and blood, I don't watch MMA, but there are times when I see some videos out of conscience and for that reason I get to know the names of some fighters, the same happens with boxi, I don't watch and I don't bet in boxi... I don't understand why people are happy to watch MMA, that is something much more violent

and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament".

every year people manage to create more violent things, yesterday I watched a video where there was a slap contest, which shocked me more Is that there were two women, one was strong and the other thin, I couldn't see what criteria they use in this type of slapping tournaments , besides that I can't help thinking that it can damage the ear

how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported?

I do not understand either. then there are people who are watching and enjoying it and the next day they are on the streets demonstrating against violence

And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

in this world there are things that are hard to understand

[qwertyup23]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

Betting on violence stems from the history of the romans- that is why they constructed the coliseum in order to witness such fights.

As time passed by, the violence lessened and it became what it is today. Fortunately, boxing is considered as a sport and it has been regulated over the years. The rules and restrictions are now strictly imposed and tight health waivers are signed- that is why I do not see any ethical reason on why boxing is considered unethical in terms of gambling.

[Kittygalore]

I do think that in ethically speaking if both fighters are consenting with the fight, it should proceed. In my opinion, fighting sports are designed to be bloody as much as possible and it's in the human race's DNA to have or enjoy bloodsport since most of our time in this planet has been wars and murders. Also, if we were to remove this sports due to "ethical" reasons, the fighters would lose their purpose since that's all they knew all their life.

[yazher]

People do what they want every time they want something to happen, especially when it comes to gambling when the pandemic is still at an early stage. There wasn't any match in boxing at all for months. Do you believe what the people in our city did? they found some alternatives which are I found worst than seeing people fighting in the ring. They bet on the poor Beta Fish to fight till one of them runs with fatigue. There's no time and referees to stop the fight when the other fish has no strength to fight back, It's just total brutality for both fishes. Addiction is one of the scariest things if one can't regain back himself. If they can let the ants fight with each other, they would have than that to suffice their hunger on gambling.

[finaleshot2016]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

If you only know or are familiar with how other MMA sports can result in an athlete's abrupt death, it's different level too. Boxing is equally tough, but when compared to the boxing of the past, it is far more bloody, and many athletes have died as a result of boxing. The current era of boxing right now is in high ground, it was running by the money, now related to business and promotions, everyone's showing skill but the winner is already marked. So I don't have any problems in the slapping tournament, for sure those who're joining that tournament are well trained and prolly have a good physical body to endure the pain but yeah, still dangerous tho like other MMA sports.

[freedomgo]

Boxing is a dangerous sport, but there are only a few cases where a boxer dies in the ring and that would not stop boxing sports. As a boxer, make sure you are fit enough and ready to take the punches in case you get hit, it's already in our culture, one of the most popular sports and I don't think it will be ban, maybe they'll change the rules but it will exist.

Look, there are a lot of boxers that suffers heavy beating in the ring and loss, but they recovered, so boxing is not really that dangerous for every boxer that they could die when heavily hit.

[bisdak40]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

There are more brutal sports than boxing like MMA but as far as boxing is concern, they have made some improvements/adjustments to make fighters safer like the reduction on the number of rounds from 15 to only 12. Boxers are aware of the dangers that they are into and boxing officials always reminded them to protect themselves at all times.

If you are a fan of this sweet science and there is a gambling opportunity on this, the temptation to bet is hard to resist but I can say that it depends on one's culture.

Some people around the world criticize people who bet on two cocks killing each other while allowing elephants to perform in a circus which for me is more unethical.

[rhomelmabini]

Contact sports are dangerous sports so more with boxing, they're totally risking their lives over it. I don't know much about the ethicality of the sport and maybe they make it legally because it's been backed by these huge names behind the industry. I'm not saying it's ethically solely but on the legal side I guess it depends professionally.

[Viscore]

I'm glad you brought this topic, well, honestly, I think it's a risky sport and it should not be called as sports, but we can't do anything as it's been here even before and this sport is attracting a lot of people and they are willing to pay just to watch a fight. In the early years, as we can see in the movie, sports are already there, warrior to warrior and one could kill the other, we don't want to see that as we don't want to see one could harm the other.

This sport is a contact sport, if we don't want the sport, then let's just don't want it so it will not affect us.

Accept the reality that not all that we see in this world can be appreciated.

[Fundamentals Of]

There is full willingness on the part of the athletes. There is full awareness of the various possibilities when they're engaged in the sports. There is no presence of external coercion. The athletes are not in any way forced to do their thing. Aside from that, the athletes are definitely informed of the health implications of their trainings, diets, supplements, fight, etc. Everything is well-monitored, regulated, and bound to follow certain sets of standards. On top of it all, they're paid to do it. So I don't think there is a question of legality and ethics. The athletes are completely free to say yes or no.

[palle11]

Just like every other sports, there are risk in all of them , boxing is not exception. We have all seen, read and heard of footballers dieing on the pitch while playing or hitting each other while contesting for ball on air.

So many games are dangerous but I think boxing is more of deliberate act to hit and cause harm to the other or weaken the other to surrender to the opponent supremacy. This is the reason that they sign contract to fight each other through there managers and promoters who initiate the fight and the regulators set rules of officiating the match for both parties so that whoever goes against the rule maybe disqualified. The organizers understand the gravity of risk involved in it and they set such roles. Apart from boxing, there are other games that are more deadly and risky like kick boxing.

[YOSHIE]

If a slap sports match is at stake in gambling then it is very difficult to judge the winning and losing of the participants, although they have to pass several health tests before starting the contest globally healthy and strong.

In a slap fight, only those played with hands / slaps without any body movement, such as boxing, Whoever can withstand the slap wins, in this contest defeat is determined by the opponent who is unable to withstand the slap.

This contest is very different from boxing in general, only playing hands, while boxing is generally the whole body starting from the feet / hands has defense and strength, so you can judge from the body that will win and lose, while the slap fights are all big bodies, but their target is only one cheek that moves only the hand.

And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

this is what is doubtful, even though the slapping contest was first held in 2018, I haven't found a reason that this slap contest is worth it or not to say it's legal and the like.
I think it's a strange but real sport.

[Obito]

I don't think that ethics in gambling is that strict or even at sports, as long as you don't do anything illegal that can make you much more stronger or ahead of your opponent, you are good to go. For me, ethics is just something that we created so we can have some sort of order in control over the population so as to not make a lawless land.

[alegotardo]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

Everything is a matter of perspective.
We see, for example, the F1 races that pay much more risk to the lives of the participants than boxing, but nobody thinks about banning them despite the countless deaths that have already occurred.
Boxing doesn't encourage violence, so much so that discipline is one of the main principles among those who practice any sport like "fighting" between participants, but many peoples see brutality and bloodshed as something too horrifying to be called a sport.
I used to be like that too, but I realized that everything is a question of culture, which for some is normal for others is unacceptable. We can't judge.

[mu_enrico]

Ethics is a wide topic and you will only find people disagreeing about things if you didn't mention what philosophy/theory used in this discussion, e.g., utilitarian, contract, virtue, etc. Let's say we judge it based on the benefit of the combined industries (boxing and betting), it creates massive jobs for the gym, event organizer, tv, boxers, etc., and many people rely on this industry, hence it's ethical. The fighting and the betting is done with consent, so why not?

[iv4n]

I believe under certain conditions boxing (or any other fighting sport) is ethical! Nobody likes to see big guy beating little guy, so there are different ranks heavyweight, lightweight, etc...
Some people really like to test strength and endurance... we can think of it from different perspectives, is it ethical, normal, crazy... but these guys like that, and who are we to tell them that's not ethical or legal, or I don't know what... we can only get beaten up! So we should better let them fight in the ring, and enjoy watching and sometimes betting on them!

[Yogee]

...For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

I think we need to go back to the days of the gladiators in ancient times. These "sports" have been passed down since the ancient times but rules have changed over time to make it more acceptable or "civil" for the modern day. People in any generation inherently loves the thrill and the entertainment when they see people fighting. The same is true with gambling.

[cabron]

If you look back history way the time of rome emperors there are already games like this which they simply settle dispute thru fighting of each camp's champ. This is brutal because they fight to death. The sports today is way civilized because of the rules, they even have medics with them ready.

During the time of Tyson, when refferee sees the boxers still raises his hand, he is still good to fight. Today, when the referree sees the boxer can't catch up his breath he has to convince the side to throw a towel.  

[Wexnident]

I mean, they went into boxing under their own judgement, not forced or whatnot by anyone. It's a sport, yes, but at it's core, it's just really two people beating each other up, quite simple no? I guess they added that certain flavor of sportsmanship into boxing, not really a fan but there's something there that makes it just much more than two people punching each other. The thing is though, boxers agreed to it, and so gambling about it officially doesn't seem to be actually wrong imo. The excuse of boxers receiving trauma and injury and whatnot is basically part of the agreement they had with themselves when they entered into boxing.

Gambling for it, well, tbh, anything could basically be a stage for gambling. It isn't really in the first place being ethical or not, as long as it's possible, then it is.

[harizen]

For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

This kind of discussion is somehow related when the topic is about religion and politics - the argument is based on our own view and no winner to be agreed with.

I'm betting with boxing with no such issues internally and techincally about the sports, so in the end, we have different views about this and any statement that I will say will not be favored to those who are not comfortable overall with the sports.

So I will just put it this way, if what's everyone thinks about this, then just lived with it.

[Slow death]

Everything is a matter of perspective. We see, for example, the F1 races that pay much more risk to the lives of the participants than boxing, but nobody thinks about banning them despite the countless deaths that have already occurred.

maybe it's because most people use cars to go to places of long distance and they always have accidents on the roads due to many factors, but it is easier to accept car racing because if someone died in car racing it was due to an accident, but if someone dying in a boxing match would hardly accept because without a doubt that the blame will be due to the many punches they took from the opponent

Boxing doesn't encourage violence, so much so that discipline is one of the main principles among those who practice any sport like "fighting" between participants, but many peoples see brutality and bloodshed as something too horrifying to be called a sport.

I see people on the streets when they disagree with something they fight and just observe that many of them have learned to throw punches like what I see watching boxi and various other fights on TV

[Kong Hey Pakboy]

For me, etbics in boxing doesn't really apply, I mean it's a sport and if you are a fundamental and strong opposition of violence then it will be a problem since people love bloodsports and many will be upset because they didn't have their animalistic impulses appeased because someone mentions the ethics of this contact sports.

[Twinkledoe]

For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

This kind of discussion is somehow related when the topic is about religion and politics - the argument is based on our own view and no winner to be agreed with.

I'm betting with boxing with no such issues internally and techincally about the sports, so in the end, we have different views about this and any statement that I will say will not be favored to those who are not comfortable overall with the sports.

So I will just put it this way, if what's everyone thinks about this, then just lived with it.

Boxing is a combat sport and has been established already in the world of sports. So I don't think we need to argue now regarding its nature. So if you are not into this kind of sports, just don't watch or bet because its presence in the sports industry has already been built a long time ago. This is why there are also rules inside the ring and the referee to interfere fouls committed by boxers, in addition to their regular roles inside the ring.

[Smartprofit]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

Yes, this is a very interesting question ...

How ethical is it in the 21st century to hit each other in the face?  At the same time, athletes not only beat each other in the face, but also get paid for it! 

Even more questions arise for those people who do not participate in battles themselves, but place bets on the outcome of the fight.  In fact, we are going back several centuries. 

During the decline of the Roman Empire, when gladiator fights were very popular.  A very good television series “Spartacus.  Blood and Sand". 

Has the morality and ethics of the 21st century remained at the level of ancient times? 

It worries and depresses me very much ...

[Jackl87]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

Boxing and martial arts in general are one of the oldest and most traditional sports around and i am 100% sure they will still be around in a 100 years. It is true though that every martial arts where you can get hit on the head a lot of times with heavy force can have a severe consequences for the rest of the life of the athletes. That being said i think that those sports have evolved quite a lot already. We are not in the seventies anymore where boxer that could not defend themself anymore still received 10 heavy punches before the referee interfered and stopped the fight. Nowadays the referee stops the fight almost immediately if a boxer is not defending himself anymore and it's the same in the UFC. Also the heads of the athletes get now checked very regularly and if anything is wrong then the doctors would prohibit that the boxer fights again.

[madnessteat]

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Many modern entertainments do not adhere to ethical principles. Slap competitions are just one of them. If we talk about violations of the law, they are simply non-existent. So it's just a few crazy guys getting together to test their heads.)

[acroman08]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. for all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported?

I guess it's because they are not forced to fight each other and they do it on their own accord. sure there have been cases where the boxer sustains a severe injury or even death(which is extremely tragic) but they know those risks and are willing to take it.

And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

sure it may look and sound unethical, but why not? the fight is broadcasted worldwide a lot of people and gamblers are watching and it's not like betting on their fight would affect them in any way.

[electronicash]

its considered sports though, i'm sure MMA is nastier than boxing. you can see how hard it is to fight when a fighter is mounted on thd ground and struggling to carry the wieght of this opponent while being pounded by fists. regardless of those traumas that there atheletes will get,  its their profession.

government has the habit of legalizing things that are illegal for centuries. alcohol or canabis for example was once illegal. MMA are just done underground as far as i know now its on every sportsbookies.

[michellee]

If boxing is prohibited, the casino will delete boxing from their game and will not try to invite the gambler to place their bet. But if boxing is prohibited, how about MMA or other physical body contacts? Maybe that type of sports will also prohibit because of the trauma and the side effect that the players can get in the long term. If so, the casino will also delete it from their games. As a sport available in many countries, boxing is still one of the sports and boxing has had fans for a long time. If boxing is prohibited or it becomes illegal activity, what their fan will say with that.

[robelneo]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

These kinds of matches have been with us since time immemorial because in the olden times there were gladiators, and boxers are modern gladiators, but the big difference is there are protections compared to the olden days there is a time limit now and there's a referee and doctors that can and will stop the fight when the boxer is hurt, although dangerous it's legal because there are steps that will protect competitors, we human love to see and admire courage, speed, and power and it is personified in the world of contact sports like boxing and MMA.

[ralle14]

Like the others have mentioned boxing is an old and famous sport that's why betting is allowed, it's hard to apply ethics since they're getting paid to put up a performance as it's a part of entertainment for others and as much as possible they have to give their all if they want to keep their career going. Injuries are inevitable since that's how fighting sports goes but nowadays I think the sport is less life threatening as referees are quick in  stopping the fight when things get out of hand.

If boxing is prohibited, the casino will delete boxing from their game and will not try to invite the gambler to place their bet. But if boxing is prohibited, how about MMA or other physical body contacts?

That depends on the country and how they recognize boxing if the sport becomes illegal then other fighting sport might be affected as well depending on the reasoning of the government.

[adzino]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event.

Boxing and other related sports used to be very "real" back then. But right now it seems like a joke and all staged. Is there really a "slapping tournament"? Lol, why...

It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

What does boxers suffering from micro-trauma has to do with betting on those games being legal and ethical? This is a sports game. There is a winner and a loser. So you can bet on those. You can literally bet on anything that has an outcome. I don't see anything wrong over here. If two person decides to hit each other for money, then you are also free to bet on them.

[maju69]

I don't know man, but MMA is more brutal than boxing.
The question still remains when most people are against violence and brutality, but here we are watching a "legal" brutal fight live and enjoyed the fight and worse placing a bet on whose to win the fight.
My mind literally blew when some group of people who are against cock fighting because it was considered as animal cruelty, but how come they have no voice against human brutality lol.

That's the bus we saw on the TV screen. Do you remember the UFC was even worse, they were definitely more brutal. Even a few years ago when UFC was still banned from broadcasting in various countries, especially in the country where I was considered a banned sport.
However, currently there is an MMA version of the UFC by applying several different rules. Try to see when at the UFC during the match Royce Gracie was famous for his small stature with a fairly attached wrestling technique. and of course, it's now banned.
Well, the question is whether it's appropriate for gambling, be it boxing, MMA, or even the UFC with the consequences of being paralyzed or injured. We as gamblers can only rely on victory without thinking about humanity.

[Zilon]

This has been a culture for centuries and cannot be changed in this era. I believe the organisers must have  given the athletes a breakdown of the consequences and risk involved in boxing tournament as well as the dangers the would be exposed to. I just feel everyone choose his or her own carrier and has fans gambling in a boxing tournament is just a way of supporting their favourite athlete

[boyptc]

Boxing is a sport and it's different from gambling.

Gambling is just being applied on it since it's also being applied for any competitive battle that people can bet on. It's been there since ancient times and it's a physical sport.

There's also UFC that's giving more damage to its fighters.

[Fortify]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

Maybe you have a point about the injuries that can be sustained, however people have been attacking each other since the beginning of time and it is possibly the earliest "sport" that you could ever record. It is the very definition of survival of the fittest and does show a degree of athleticism which can be admired. Kids can hit and bully each other from an early age, so it'll always be worth teaching the art of self defense. However repeated fights might be much more damaging to a young mind that is still growing, so maybe it needs to be banned by anyone under the age of 18 or 21 - allowing them to fully physically mature, then they can make the right decision.

[Lanatsa]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

As long it would give out that entertainment and would be some sort of hit to masses then it would really be legally allowed since they could see the potential for it to be monetized or would

simply make out some revenue if they do intend to show up into the public and make out some bets.Those health risk is common and for sure that those fighters would really be aware on that one.

If we do look back or tend to count or percentage of those people who had died or make out some incident of health then it is just small.

[semobo]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

Boxing is not just about hitting the opponents, its about taking the point by right punches in head or the other way is knocking out the opponent before the rounds up!

Boxers are trained for it and modern day boxing is a lot safer and much strict rules compared to the old english boxing style so its accepted as a sport and if we are afraid of death we can't even walk outisde our house even we can sleep on a bed because we still have a chance for the floor to collapse and fall on our head.

[just_Alice]

Almost all sports end in traumas: football, basketball, cycling, etc., it’s inevitable. But I see your point with boxing, the whole idea is to hurt the opponent and I agree, come to think of it, it’s pretty cruel. I don’t really get these kinds of sports either, but certain people enjoy it, because, sad as it is, it’s in human nature.

It all is depicted in history: gladiator fights were the most prestigious form of entertainment in the Roman Republic, where a crowd of people watched the contestants kill each other, and, afaik, the audience also made bets.

Nowadays that would be considered inappropriate, but the thrust for violence is still out there, so we have fights. Who knows, maybe in decades these games will be banned. But while there’s demand - it will go on.

[DoublerHunter]

If boxing is prohibited, the casino will delete boxing from their game and will not try to invite the gambler to place their bet. But if boxing is prohibited, how about MMA or other physical body contacts? Maybe that type of sports will also prohibit because of the trauma and the side effect that the players can get in the long term. If so, the casino will also delete it from their games. As a sport available in many countries, boxing is still one of the sports and boxing has had fans for a long time. If boxing is prohibited or it becomes illegal activity, what their fan will say with that.

^ It will remain because it has rules that should be followed in each game. Boxing sports was now very common because there are too many people who enjoyed it and I think it will exist for a long period of time. This game is not quite a bloody game because all players had gloves that protect and the points were counted per punch. Though it is risky a little bit I think this is not an illegal sport. However, I have heard that there is no formal legalization of boxing sports or the same on boxing like Jodo, Wrestling, and fencing, or any activity that we might think is a brutal game.
Nevertheless, fighters in these games have strict limits on how often any fighter can fight, and also, they are very intensive drug testing and strict monitoring of fighters who take a beating.

[Sanitough]

A boxer knows the risk, once they enter into boxing, they know that they could be seriously injured and worst is they could die.

A head injury could really be one of the riskiest condition a boxer could get, just like this one.
https://sports.inquirer.net/33535/undefeated-filipino-boxer-dies-after-fight-injury

MANILA, Philippines—An undefeated Filipino boxer has died after sustaining head injuries during a fight and falling into a coma, a hospital official said Saturday.

Flyweight Karlo Maquinto, 21, died in hospital on Friday, Dr. Chester Tan, a surgeon at the Far Eastern University Hospital told Agence France-Presse.

I think there are a lot more similar cases like this.

[michellee]

That depends on the country and how they recognize boxing if the sport becomes illegal then other fighting sport might be affected as well depending on the reasoning of the government.

Many countries will still allow MMA or other physical body contacts, but if that is related to gambling, that will depend on the country's regulation.

^ It will remain because it has rules that should be followed in each game. Boxing sports was now very common because there are too many people who enjoyed it and I think it will exist for a long period of time. This game is not quite a bloody game because all players had gloves that protect and the points were counted per punch. Though it is risky a little bit I think this is not an illegal sport. However, I have heard that there is no formal legalization of boxing sports or the same on boxing like Jodo, Wrestling, and fencing, or any activity that we might think is a brutal game.
Nevertheless, fighters in these games have strict limits on how often any fighter can fight, and also, they are very intensive drug testing and strict monitoring of fighters who take a beating.

That is what I think before about boxing because that sport is already with us for a long time ago and it will still exist because many people like that sport. But we also see what impact some boxers have had in a long time as this sport needs to control the rule. The vibration of the punch will impact their body and that can affect them in the future, no matter if they can eliminate the power from the opponent.

[imstillthebest]

it is legal because the boxers are profesionals. they have been in training for months and even years to condition their body so that they can endure fatal damages  .
 aside from it there are also medical assistance , safety gears , pro referees and rules to make the game more safer but betting thru it can be illegal if done anywhere because some people are anti gambling .

[Cling18]

It's almost part of the culture and to be honest, some people are really enjoying this kind of sport. People could gamble on anything no matter how brutal it is. We could even gamble on simple things so what more on sports like this? It's our personal choice if we'll bet on this type of sport or not but for many people, they find it entertaining.

[robelneo]

A boxer knows the risk, once they enter into boxing, they know that they could be seriously injured and worst is they could die.

A head injury could really be one of the riskiest condition a boxer could get, just like this one.
https://sports.inquirer.net/33535/undefeated-filipino-boxer-dies-after-fight-injury

MANILA, Philippines—An undefeated Filipino boxer has died after sustaining head injuries during a fight and falling into a coma, a hospital official said Saturday.

Flyweight Karlo Maquinto, 21, died in hospital on Friday, Dr. Chester Tan, a surgeon at the Far Eastern University Hospital told Agence France-Presse.

I think there are a lot more similar cases like this.

That's true that is why we need competent referees and doctors to monitor the welfare of every fight and make a stoppage whenever necessary, I have seen it many fights, the boxers after a knockdown looks good but the referee made a stoppage because he cannot respond correctly on a simple question, a fighter who is struggling to get up has a warning sign for a referee to stop it when necessary to avoid furhter injury.

[Sanitough]

A boxer knows the risk, once they enter into boxing, they know that they could be seriously injured and worst is they could die.

A head injury could really be one of the riskiest condition a boxer could get, just like this one.
https://sports.inquirer.net/33535/undefeated-filipino-boxer-dies-after-fight-injury

MANILA, Philippines—An undefeated Filipino boxer has died after sustaining head injuries during a fight and falling into a coma, a hospital official said Saturday.

Flyweight Karlo Maquinto, 21, died in hospital on Friday, Dr. Chester Tan, a surgeon at the Far Eastern University Hospital told Agence France-Presse.

I think there are a lot more similar cases like this.

That's true that is why we need competent referees and doctors to monitor the welfare of every fight and make a stoppage whenever necessary, I have seen it many fights, the boxers after a knockdown looks good but the referee made a stoppage because he cannot respond correctly on a simple question, a fighter who is struggling to get up has a warning sign for a referee to stop it when necessary to avoid furhter injury.

I don't think that would really be a big help, the doctor only sees the reaction of the fighter, they can't diagnose what is really happening inside the body and sometimes the effect does not show right away.

Another example is Z Gorrez, a Filipino fighter who won his fight but was critical after the fight.
After what happened, he never did fight again as he needs long-term therapy due to brain damage.

https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/11/14/09/z-gorres-wins-over-columbian-foe-rushed-hospital

[haidil]

It's almost part of the culture and to be honest, some people are really enjoying this kind of sport. People could gamble on anything no matter how brutal it is. We could even gamble on simple things so what more on sports like this? It's our personal choice if we'll bet on this type of sport or not but for many people, they find it entertaining.

Like other gambling, entertainment is the desire of gamblers to continue to satisfy what they think can be profitable. It doesn't matter what kind of sport you say, because the important thing is to bet on what you see, then ignore the consequences.
There is no prohibition against gambling, as long as it is outside the context of the game, and the bettors are not in it, then they are free to bet on the boxer they feel is the champion who will win.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

Based on what is speaking, it is considered that this sport has effects on the person in the long term, I trained in Hapkido since child, and on many occasions I trained with the Boxing guys and really, for me, they are the ones who better fight And they have more physical conditions.

  In Hapkido, I left it since I had to go to college and because I really saw many friends accidents, and the emotion of many years that I felt was not the same. Hapkido As Boxing is considered contact sports that handle large amounts of money, especially to bet. Boxers, when they offer a lot of money is when they decide to go will fight even though their integrity has a lot of risk, that is, they accept those challenges it is for money, and they are usually large sums of money, since they generally forget the physical damage . Here it is where ethics by coaches and organizers is not so important and forget it, as well as other values that are left behind.

[ChiBitCTy]

There is no one forcing anyone to box. It is completely up to the boxers themselves whether or not they want to take on the risks that come with boxing. Back in the day we didn’t know exactly all of the health issues that were involved but today with modern medicine we do, so again, the boxers have full knowledge of the risks being taken. Same goes for sports like NFL football.

[avikz]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

Boxing is still mild. Think about freestyle wrestling and then you will understand the actual brutal sport. But the wrestlers and boxers are compensated very well considering the amount of risk they are taking. And yes, slapping tournament is also very brutal. I am sure many players suffer brain injuries due to the impact they receive on their skull.

But anyway, it's upto the government to decide whether a sports is legal or brutal. Many people like brutal sports and hence freestyle wrestling has fans worldwide. Some certain things may not feel right for you and me, so the doors are open for us. We can choose not to watch brutal sports or not to bet on them. But they are a great source of revenue for government, event organizers and betting companies. What some minority of people thinks, has no value!

[acroman08]

There is no one forcing anyone to box. It is completely up to the boxers themselves whether or not they want to take on the risks that come with boxing. Back in the day we didn’t know exactly all of the health issues that were involved but today with modern medicine we do, so again, the boxers have full knowledge of the risks being taken. Same goes for sports like NFL football.

exactly, the boxers are fully aware of the risk. the only way that his sport will become unethical is if the boxer in question is being forced to fight against their will.

Boxing is still mild. Think about freestyle wrestling and then you will understand the actual brutal sport. But the wrestlers and boxers are compensated very well considering the amount of risk they are taking. And yes, slapping tournament is also very brutal. I am sure many players suffer brain injuries due to the impact they receive on their skull.

yeah, MMA alone is a lot more brutal than boxing. have you heard about where a trans woman cracked her opponent's skull dung an MMA fight?

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

Boxing still be categorized like martial arts. and some people said its still part of sport. but the slapping tournament is indeed quite unique because it is not categorized as a sport or martial arts. just seeing who was the strongest with the slap was indeed quite strange. and in my country there is no such thing . looks like it's booming on the internet and going viral and without a doubt there are people who like things like that too. i never saw casino had gambling option for slapping tournament.

[pinggoki]

The bottomline of all this somewhat ethical breach in sports like MMA, Boxing, or even slapping tournaments is the fact that this is all done for money. Pretty sure they get paid alright and are given enough care while in the ring, except of course for a notable few cases where neglect and misconduct costed a fighter their career or worse, their life. The betting I think is justified especially if it is precedented by the organizers themselves because the fighters will have a cut in the win. So it's all really at least fairly ethical and alright for me.

There is no one forcing anyone to box. It is completely up to the boxers themselves whether or not they want to take on the risks that come with boxing. Back in the day we didn’t know exactly all of the health issues that were involved but today with modern medicine we do, so again, the boxers have full knowledge of the risks being taken. Same goes for sports like NFL football.

Of course there is also the option of not partaking in extreme sports, but then again the temptation of a better life that you could provide your family oftentimes outweigh the care and regard for your well-being that you'd be willing to put your life in the line for that chance.

[uneng]

First of all I think you should ask why athletes still want to practice boxing knowing all these negative consequences you mentioned and are well known nowadays by everyone, since we can observe the example of retired fighters who had their bodies broken or deformed and mental health heavily damaged.

I believe some people are too violent and this kind of sport works as a solution to avoid them being aggressive in their daily life.
You can see many children who bully or punch other kids at schools are sent to practice a fight sport like boxing. So it's not totally bad and if there people willing to gamble on this sport at least they are helping those athletes to keep the sport going on and letting them have a career for living.

[Fredomago]

it is legal because the boxers are profesionals. they have been in training for months and even years to condition their body so that they can endure fatal damages  .
 aside from it there are also medical assistance , safety gears , pro referees and rules to make the game more safer but betting thru it can be illegal if done anywhere because some people are anti gambling .

yeah right, those boxers have their trainings to condition both mind and body, they are well aware to possible thing that will happened to them if they are not properly prepared before and during the fight. Though we can't remove the fact that accident is always present and some unavoided punch may hit crucial nerves causing fighter to die or being paralyze.

But even  danger is more possible from this sport, there are still many young aspiring fighters who continue to train harder in hope that one day they'll be able to step on the ring and fight.

[Hippocrypto]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

This has been already established entertainment which also been adopted through betting because it's a huge gambling business by bigger promotions. They paid a huge amount of money just to make it legal around the world, money works in order make things put into settlement. When they don't fulfill the requirements for the safety of the boxing match, it won't be possible to launch the game. So every aspects will be followed according to rules and regulations.

[Fatunad]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

This has been already established entertainment which also been adopted through betting because it's a huge gambling business by bigger promotions. They paid a huge amount of money just to make it legal around the world, money works in order make things put into settlement. When they don't fulfill the requirements for the safety of the boxing match, it won't be possible to launch the game. So every aspects will be followed according to rules and regulations.

Everything is really having that specific set of rules and regulations to be followed because they would really be needing for everything to be organized and would really be far from accidents which might really
result into negative impression in the masses and we know that once a business do really end up on having bad impressions then it is really a bad thing and possibly cant really be continue.
Its true that this is already an established entertainment and same goes in other sports as well.

[Johnyz]

For how many years boxing already in the market? I mean since then boxing are considered as sport and bettors are coming in to watch the game.

Yes, there’s a risk of trauma and dying because of boxing this is why boxer have to be more fit before they fight and they understand the risk of it. It’s hard to question if its more on a gambling, because boxers take this seriously and considered as their true passions, they are happy on that profession.

[Xinarae*]

Gambling is a game that hangs between gains and losses gambling is basically a set of amounts or objects that are set as a reward the gambling portal offers gamblers classic and modern types of slot card and table games like poker backgammon blackjack video poker lottery bingo keno. The risk for boxing is high boxing fights are both very damaging and physically they are injured gambling is better than considering sports.

[bittraffic]

Gambling is a game that hangs between gains and losses gambling is basically a set of amounts or objects that are set as a reward the gambling portal offers gamblers classic and modern types of slot card and table games like poker backgammon blackjack video poker lottery bingo keno. The risk for boxing is high boxing fights are both very damaging and physically they are injured gambling is better than considering sports.

Yet we are betting on the fights. There is no point in seeing whether it's ethical or not because it's now bringing honor to countries from which the boxers are from. Look at the Olympic games is mostly where countries are spending much for their athletes. Boxing is where we are so excited because naturally, people want to prove who are better physically. Latin Americans want to dominate this sport but obviously, there are more races out there that can also box.

[Wexnident]

Gambling is a game that hangs between gains and losses gambling is basically a set of amounts or objects that are set as a reward the gambling portal offers gamblers classic and modern types of slot card and table games like poker backgammon blackjack video poker lottery bingo keno. The risk for boxing is high boxing fights are both very damaging and physically they are injured gambling is better than considering sports.

This kinda swerved to a different topic? OP was asking why boxing was ethical as a sport and should we even consider betting into a sport where people beat each other up, and not really about whether which is riskier, gambling or boxing (both have their risks and merits ngl, I really doubt one is better than the other).

So it's not totally bad and if there people willing to gamble on this sport at least they are helping those athletes to keep the sport going on and letting them have a career for living.

Totally disagree, it's the other way around. It's the sport that's keeping the gambling industry for boxing alive. Idk if boxers (or any other sport for that matter) receive money from sports betting companies, but even if they did, I'd reckon it's a pretty small part of their total salary.

[bittraffic]

Gambling is a game that hangs between gains and losses gambling is basically a set of amounts or objects that are set as a reward the gambling portal offers gamblers classic and modern types of slot card and table games like poker backgammon blackjack video poker lottery bingo keno. The risk for boxing is high boxing fights are both very damaging and physically they are injured gambling is better than considering sports.

This kinda swerved to a different topic? OP was asking why boxing was ethical as a sport and should we even consider betting into a sport where people beat each other up, and not really about whether which is riskier, gambling or boxing (both have their risks and merits ngl, I really doubt one is better than the other).

So it's not totally bad and if there people willing to gamble on this sport at least they are helping those athletes to keep the sport going on and letting them have a career for living.

Totally disagree, it's the other way around. It's the sport that's keeping the gambling industry for boxing alive. Idk if boxers (or any other sport for that matter) receive money from sports betting companies, but even if they did, I'd reckon it's a pretty small part of their total salary.

I believe they are receiving from PPV which also has a betting platform. It's the same as basketball stars in NBA, the people pay the ticket for entrance, and a percentage of the money is given to the players as far as I know and this is apart from the sponsors. MGM I think also does the same.

Money is part of the profession they choose. Some boxers don't have the choice, poor boxers from Mexico even start at a very early stage of their life as a boxer to get paid per fight.

[goinmerry]

I think boxing being ethical or not shouldn't be questioned. As long as a sport is considered legal, then just allow these games to operate whatever the rules, be it physical or not, or something. In basketball, football, soccer, for example, there are also physical fights. If we aren't used to seeing those games then just ignore and don't watch them.

I know the topic was just asked because OP isn't a boxing enthusiast and that is hard to explain for those who don't watch that sports mostly. I should say, that was too deep if we discussed this just like how I questioned other games such so just enjoy betting on your preferred sports.

[madnessteat]

Boxing has a long history as its ancestor was fist fights, the evidence of which goes back hundreds of years. In my opinion, boxing is one of the most spectacular contact sports and it is really a sport compared to slapping competitions.

[michellee]

For how many years boxing already in the market? I mean since then boxing are considered as sport and bettors are coming in to watch the game.

Yes, there’s a risk of trauma and dying because of boxing this is why boxer have to be more fit before they fight and they understand the risk of it. It’s hard to question if its more on a gambling, because boxers take this seriously and considered as their true passions, they are happy on that profession.

I am trying to do little research about that but I could not find the right answer because maybe that betting on boxing was doing secretly as at that time, the law can caught people who betting on the sports. But we know that boxing has been with us from a long time ago and if boxing as a sports, you can read on this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing

Those boxers know that if they can be the champions, they can become popular and have many fans to become an idol. They can produce a lot of money and maybe they know about the risk of trauma and can get an injury in their bodies. But they will not stop until they can become world champions or people will only remember them as fighters.

[Welsh]

Its probably as ethical as gambling companies exploiting their users, there's long terms effects for both getting hit in the head, and spiraling into debt because gambling companies want people who are addicted to gambling on their platform spending money. Of course, it is horrible that boxers to sustain injuries long term, and there probably needs to be more done in that regard. However, they do know the risks, and they do sign on the dotted line. The issue is, this is most probably due to a lot of them coming from disadvantaged backgrounds, and trying to change their lives.

Its worth noting though, not every boxer sustains long term effects. So, while it obviously is a concern, and most definitely does happen its not like you are betting for that person to sustain long term injuries. Your betting on them to win the fight, and you do that with all sports, despite the risk of serious injuries. For example, I believe football has now implemented a rule where they can't header the ball in training sessions over a certain amount, depending on the severity of the collision with the ball, because of fears of it contributing to various long term head injuries. So, you could argue that if you bet on a footballing event, its the same as betting on a boxing event. Although, not quite the same because you are betting for boxers to get the KO sometimes. Although, then you could argue that its not the KO that does the damage, but rather the accumulative effect of getting punched in the head.

[uneng]

So it's not totally bad and if there people willing to gamble on this sport at least they are helping those athletes to keep the sport going on and letting them have a career for living.

Totally disagree, it's the other way around. It's the sport that's keeping the gambling industry for boxing alive. Idk if boxers (or any other sport for that matter) receive money from sports betting companies, but even if they did, I'd reckon it's a pretty small part of their total salary.

The sport helps gambling industry and the gambling industry helps the sport. It doesn't need to be necessarily advantegeous only for one side. If there wasn't money involved in boxing sport through gambling I doubt it would have the same importance it currently has. Part of the public doesn't want to be entertained by watching the fights only, they also want to practice their prediction skills to try earning some money.
Gambling without boxing would remain the same, without any decreasement in profit, as gamblers would easily find something else to bet on, however boxing without gambling would indeed suffer some financial losses.

[passwordnow]

For the pro matches, there's nothing to worry about the physical collateral for each of their matches. With those physical blows that they receive, they've got their own medical team for each of their matches and until they recover if ever the hit is too much and badly affected the boxer. But what is more concerning are the nonpro matches and boxers, the amateur ones. Those reports about sudden death after or during the match are more with those types of matches.

[haidil]

For how many years boxing already in the market? I mean since then boxing are considered as sport and bettors are coming in to watch the game.

Yes, there’s a risk of trauma and dying because of boxing this is why boxer have to be more fit before they fight and they understand the risk of it. It’s hard to question if its more on a gambling, because boxers take this seriously and considered as their true passions, they are happy on that profession.

no boxer fights injured. They must meet several requirements to be able to compete, in addition to being healthy, weight is also a requirement to be able to fight in the ring.
All based on the rules that have been made in order to minimize things that are not wanted to happen during the match. As for the aftermath of injury and some of it has become a risk. Not only in boxing, in football, the injuries are even more severe than in the boxing ring.

[maju69]

Boxing has a long history as its ancestor was fist fights, the evidence of which goes back hundreds of years. In my opinion, boxing is one of the most spectacular contact sports and it is really a sport compared to slapping competitions.

What about UFC or MMA? even the sport is far more legendary among the ancestors, which started out as a wrestling fight with a much longer history. But do not rule out the sport of boxing.
All have their own history. However, until now betting on boxing is still popular, especially among parents, who while watching they will spend bottles of ibir until the match is over.

[7788bitcoin]

I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

As if everyone who is boxing or doing any contact sports were forced to do so  . Some choose a profession which they are comfortable and what is the ethical new world you are talking about. I just want to know about your ethical world where everything that are into martial arts and contact sports are unethical and everyone should be a bunch of pussies and keyboard warriors .

[smyslov]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

There's art in boxing, and it brings a deep-rooted mentality of fast brave and strong on us and boxing personifies that, and besides you cannot enter the ring without being fit, it takes months of preparation and years of developing skills before you can fight in the ring, they are not picking random people they are picking who can fight and protect himself in the ring.

[boyptc]

There's art in boxing, and it brings a deep-rooted mentality of fast brave and strong on us and boxing personifies that, and besides you cannot enter the ring without being fit, it takes months of preparation and years of developing skills before you can fight in the ring, they are not picking random people they are picking who can fight and protect himself in the ring.

This is right.

They won't allow someone to box with other fighters if they're not fit and in the first place, these boxers have been training to prepare themselves the possible physical wave that they will receive through their opponents.

[AmoreJaz]

There's art in boxing, and it brings a deep-rooted mentality of fast brave and strong on us and boxing personifies that, and besides you cannot enter the ring without being fit, it takes months of preparation and years of developing skills before you can fight in the ring, they are not picking random people they are picking who can fight and protect himself in the ring.

This is right.

They won't allow someone to box with other fighters if they're not fit and in the first place, these boxers have been training to prepare themselves the possible physical wave that they will receive through their opponents.

and once inside the ring, they are bind by the rules of this sports. once they violate it, they will suffer the consequences. it is not that they are fighting with each other without rules to comply with. that's why there's ethics here. because they need to abide by the rules established on this kind of sports.

i don't understand what ethical means by the OP but a lot of combat sports are really hurting their opponents, not only in boxing. tell the MMA, kung fu, judo, muay thai, wrestling, or taekwondo people that they are not ethical...

[boyptc]

There's art in boxing, and it brings a deep-rooted mentality of fast brave and strong on us and boxing personifies that, and besides you cannot enter the ring without being fit, it takes months of preparation and years of developing skills before you can fight in the ring, they are not picking random people they are picking who can fight and protect himself in the ring.

This is right.

They won't allow someone to box with other fighters if they're not fit and in the first place, these boxers have been training to prepare themselves the possible physical wave that they will receive through their opponents.

and once inside the ring, they are bind by the rules of this sports. once they violate it, they will suffer the consequences. it is not that they are fighting with each other without rules to comply with. that's why there's ethics here. because they need to abide by the rules established on this kind of sports.

i don't understand what ethical means by the OP but a lot of combat sports are really hurting their opponents, not only in boxing. tell the MMA, kung fu, judo, muay thai, wrestling, or taekwondo people that they are not ethical...

He's said what he's concerned about.

And you're right that there are other contact sports that have been also giving the pain physically but they're all disciplined. It's what most of these sports are teaching.

[Oceat]

People are savage I think since fighting on each other is considered as sports in other countries and yet hate animal cruelty but still they like to see someone fighting each other. It's like an honor for them to fight the strongest man alive and then today it's now an official sports.

I don't know why though, I just don't get it why fighting each other is supposed to be fun when this is a sports and the only ethical about it that I see is they win a bigger prizes if they beat their opponent. Anyway, I think there's a weaver about it if someone wants to participate on this bloody sports then they have to be ready and accept the consequences and I think that's the risk of it. Meaning high risk equals high rewards.

[molsewid]

People are savage I think since fighting on each other is considered as sports in other countries and yet hate animal cruelty but still they like to see someone fighting each other. It's like an honor for them to fight the strongest man alive and then today it's now an official sports.

I don't know why though, I just don't get it why fighting each other is supposed to be fun when this is a sports and the only ethical about it that I see is they win a bigger prizes if they beat their opponent. Anyway, I think there's a weaver about it if someone wants to participate on this bloody sports then they have to be ready and accept the consequences and I think that's the risk of it. Meaning high risk equals high rewards.

After reading your comment mate it made me realize things like this I mean I used to believe that boxing is a sport which it is legally considered and now slapping tournament been practiced already and this only prove to me that everything has a price the higher the risk you put the higher the chance you may get what you want. I salute all the players that set to be the one stand on the ring, fighting aiming to win to be able to win a high prize while bettors watching and being entertained on what they have seen on the ring.

[freedomgo]

People are savage I think since fighting on each other is considered as sports in other countries and yet hate animal cruelty but still they like to see someone fighting each other. It's like an honor for them to fight the strongest man alive and then today it's now an official sports.

I don't know why though, I just don't get it why fighting each other is supposed to be fun when this is a sports and the only ethical about it that I see is they win a bigger prizes if they beat their opponent. Anyway, I think there's a weaver about it if someone wants to participate on this bloody sports then they have to be ready and accept the consequences and I think that's the risk of it. Meaning high risk equals high rewards.

After reading your comment mate it made me realize things like this I mean I used to believe that boxing is a sport which it is legally considered and now slapping tournament been practiced already and this only prove to me that everything has a price the higher the risk you put the higher the chance you may get what you want. I salute all the players that set to be the one stand on the ring, fighting aiming to win to be able to win a high prize while bettors watching and being entertained on what they have seen on the ring.

Obviously, it's just all for the money, if no one will promote this sport, no boxer would risk their lives fighting. Boxing is very popular, it will not be taken out already and I think no government has ever boxing yet because it entertains people, and it also creates opportunity for the successful boxer though we know the risk.

[harizen]

Anyway, I think there's a weaver about it if someone wants to participate on this bloody sports then they have to be ready and accept the consequences and I think that's the risk of it. Meaning high risk equals high rewards.

Obviously, people participating in that sports already know the risks.

Money and fame are waiting for them that's why those risks are not really being considered since their focus is to maintain winning as possible. Not just within boxing but the possibility of becoming an ambassador or sports sponsor has a chance while on progress.

Others succeed, others failed, and that's the reality of this sport.

[iv4n]

Anyway, I think there's a weaver about it if someone wants to participate on this bloody sports then they have to be ready and accept the consequences and I think that's the risk of it. Meaning high risk equals high rewards.

...

Others succeed, others failed, and that's the reality of this sport.

I would say it's reality generally, in sport or life! Some people win, some lose... Why someone is winning and why someone is losing can be explained if we have all the relevant facts! After all, there are consequences for our actions, whatever they may be, and it's why we need to know what are we doing, how to do it properly, our goals and limitations.
I don't have a problem with people who have extreme standards, with people who risk a lot more than money, they risk their lives in trying to achieve something! It's their choice and we need to respect that!

[RealMalatesta]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

I don't want to sound philosophical but the truth is that we are living in a world where we modify rules according to our own desire and force them on others. I will tell you why I am saying it.

People eat nonveg and have no problems with it because it satisfies their taste but the same people will take a stand against animal cruelty. This is just one example, I will tell you more.

People have no problems with watching sports like boxing/wrestling/slapping/etc because it entertains them but the same people will act differently if they see a fight breaking out in the neighborhood. Why? Because it doesn't entertain them and in fact cause them tension.

The list can go on and on but we cannot deny that double standards exist and ethics are put aside.

[freedomgo]

This article briefly explained why boxing should not be ban and upong reading it, I realize that if they'll ban boxing, then other sports that are risky should also be ban.

here's the statement from the article that we can reflect on.

This article is part of a series looking at the moral dimensions of modern life

Many doctors argue that the time has come to ban boxing. We disagree. In 2005, the World Medical Association wrote:

Boxing is a dangerous sport. Unlike most other sports, its basic intent is to produce bodily harm in the opponent. Boxing can result in death and produces an alarming incidence of chronic brain injury. For this reason, the World Medical Association recommends that boxing be banned.

The above statement, however, is excessively paternalistic. Boxing is indeed risky, but the risks are perhaps comparable to other activities and sports. Fighting is certainly tolerated in ice hockey – in which a specific player, “the goon”, is encouraged to be aggressive. And as Mario Mendez has written in the International Journal of Psychiatry in Medicine, “in boxing . . . there is a smaller risk of fatal head injuries than in horse racing, sky diving, mountaineering, motorcycle racing, and even [American] football”.

With regards to non-fatal injuries, boxing was the first sport where chronic traumatic encephalopathy was noticed in former competitors. This is a progressive and degenerative condition caused by repeated head injuries; it presents with neurological symptoms such as memory loss and mood swings, eventually leading to dementia. But we now know that a wide range of contact sports result in head injuries frequent or severe enough to cause the condition:  American football, rugby, ice hockey and  professional wrestling (to name a few) are all linked to it, with a study of 2010 showing that school-aged American football players had “measurable neurocognitive and neurophysiologic deficits”, despite never having been concussed.

[Silberman]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

As long as people are aware of the risks they are taking when engaging in any activity then it is up to them to decide if they want to undertake it, after all alcohol is legal and we know that if consumed in large quantities it can have awful affects over the body and yet people decide to do it, the same logic applies here, if people want to engage in a boxing event despite the fact that they know that this could cause long term effects on their bodies then they should be free to do so regardless of what we think about it

[AverageGlabella]

There are many sports which are brutal and you can bet on them and if we were to ban one of them we would need to ban all of them to be fair. I think it is ok to bet on combat sports but I think betting for KOs is probably the more unethical but I bet everyone in this thread has done a KO bet at one point if they bet on boxing.

[7788bitcoin]

People are savage I think since fighting on each other is considered as sports in other countries and yet hate animal cruelty but still they like to see someone fighting each other. It's like an honor for them to fight the strongest man alive and then today it's now an official sports.

Cruelty against animals is not good and cannot be supported and i do not support them but i am a non veg and i eat everything but fighting is a different aspect altogether and to be the best in the fight game is not new and it is there for centuries.

I don't know why though, I just don't get it why fighting each other is supposed to be fun when this is a sports and the only ethical about it that I see is they win a bigger prizes if they beat their opponent. Anyway, I think there's a weaver about it if someone wants to participate on this bloody sports then they have to be ready and accept the consequences and I think that's the risk of it. Meaning high risk equals high rewards.

High rewards will be there for big time fighters and if you are coming up in the fight game you will be earning small amount of money, in boxing when you are coming up the best you will make is below $1000 a fight and that is the case with MMA and if you are in any other combat sport forget about making that kind of money as well.

[maju69]

There are many sports which are brutal and you can bet on them and if we were to ban one of them we would need to ban all of them to be fair. I think it is ok to bet on combat sports but I think betting for KOs is probably the more unethical but I bet everyone in this thread has done a KO bet at one point if they bet on boxing.

bet and don't have to worry about how risky the fighters are, I'm sure they understand much better what they have to do. There is nothing wrong, why should we be ready to gamble with great matches in the ring. We certainly will not waste the opportunity to be able to save bigger bets.

[just_Alice]

Its probably as ethical as gambling companies exploiting their users, there's long terms effects for both getting hit in the head, and spiraling into debt because gambling companies want people who are addicted to gambling on their platform spending money. Of course, it is horrible that boxers to sustain injuries long term, and there probably needs to be more done in that regard. However, they do know the risks, and they do sign on the dotted line. The issue is, this is most probably due to a lot of them coming from disadvantaged backgrounds, and trying to change their lives.

The consequences may be the same sometimes, but gambling companies still seem more ethical to me. All they want is to earn money by means of attracting people, and every business in the world is like that, in boxing, on the other hand, it’s not money that most people want (many watch just for fun, no betting involved), but the game itself.

I’m not saying that it’s ok to get people hurt for money, but at least there’s a purpose in there, maybe the companies even feel sorry at the end of the day In boxing people literally want one man to smash another, and they enjoy when that happens while getting nothing in return.

[jostorres]

For how many years boxing already in the market? I mean since then boxing are considered as sport and bettors are coming in to watch the game.

Yes, there’s a risk of trauma and dying because of boxing this is why boxer have to be more fit before they fight and they understand the risk of it. It’s hard to question if its more on a gambling, because boxers take this seriously and considered as their true passions, they are happy on that profession.

I can tell you, no one likes to take a punch and boxing is all about taking and striking your opponent. Let's be honest, people are doing these things just for money and there's no other reason behind it.

Everything been said though, I believe that people who make bets on these events are not at fault because it's not like they are fueling these sports. They are just betting on the events already scheduled and no sport or event happens just because of gambling.

[boyptc]

bet and don't have to worry about how risky the fighters are, I'm sure they understand much better what they have to do. There is nothing wrong, why should we be ready to gamble with great matches in the ring. We certainly will not waste the opportunity to be able to save bigger bets.

Bet only to those boxers that you know are good enough to win.

As the match being announced, there is a long time that you can use to check every training that they do and their progress. Doing that will give you the advantage.

[Saisher]

And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

It's legal because there are precautionary measures being taken to ensure the safety of the competitors, they are not fighting to the death, once an opponent is clearly seen hurt the fight will be stopped, and both competitors are made sure they are on their peak of health, so it's really a battle of speed and strength not savagery.

[Peanutswar]

Boxing already exists before the slapping tournament and we know that boxing is heavier than the slapping tournament it's about the middle to the upper part of your body that could be damaged one single blow can damage any parts of your body. They already consider boxing as a sport but the slapping tournament does not already AFAIK. Boxing is already in the part of the gambling of the rich people. Most of the game century is the battle of Manny Pacquaio many gamblers trying to bet on him because of the talent he has in world boxing.

[Twinkledoe]

Boxing already exists before the slapping tournament and we know that boxing is heavier than the slapping tournament it's about the middle to the upper part of your body that could be damaged one single blow can damage any parts of your body. They already consider boxing as a sport but the slapping tournament does not already AFAIK. Boxing is already in the part of the gambling of the rich people. Most of the game century is the battle of Manny Pacquaio many gamblers trying to bet on him because of the talent he has in world boxing.

Wow! Special mention to Manny Pacquiao, betted on him already but still betting if I have extra just before the fight. 

On the other note, boxing is a contact sport and has been in the history of mankind already. We are not talking about ethics here because that's already been past due to talk about. We already surpassed that discussion as they already established the rules and regulations in this sports.

[YuginKadoya]

I think boxing in recent years was once an Olympic sport rather than a casual betting ground, but even though there are few incidents that people had died because of this sports it is just a mere coincidence that a person would die on the ring, and in given situations, people than often have died on the rings was pretty much unhealthy or no proper training at all, or people would accidentally hit the persons vital part that may cause coma, I think boxing official is aware of it that is why in boxing, Boxer would surely wear gloves to the fist of a boxer would not become lethal, and wearing glove was used to protect both the opponents head and the fighter's hands.

[iTradeChips]

If you are going to ask me, then it is all about the players, these modern gladiators. I really don't mind seeing them box out in the field, getting bloddied in the process. Why? Because if these players made it big time, then they will be richer than all of us here in this forum. You are talking about millionaires, man. Enough talk about the ethics of blood sports. We have been doing this for thousands of years, we just made it more humane for the enjoyment of billions on the planet. Willing fighters who has more influence and money than you? Then talking about the ethics is just lame attempt to cover your envy.

[ethereumhunter]

There are many sports which are brutal and you can bet on them and if we were to ban one of them we would need to ban all of them to be fair. I think it is ok to bet on combat sports but I think betting for KOs is probably the more unethical but I bet everyone in this thread has done a KO bet at one point if they bet on boxing.

bet and don't have to worry about how risky the fighters are, I'm sure they understand much better what they have to do. There is nothing wrong, why should we be ready to gamble with great matches in the ring. We certainly will not waste the opportunity to be able to save bigger bets.

I am sure we will have the option about what we want to do related to the boxing bet and we will not betting for KO's if we do not like. It is up to them to place the bet on the sports and even we do not know what they will bet. Yes, the fighter knows what they have to do and they realize the consequences of becoming the player, and I am sure they also know how to anticipate it for themselves.

[maju69]

Bet only to those boxers that you know are good enough to win.

As the match being announced, there is a long time that you can use to check every training that they do and their progress. Doing that will give you the advantage.

Oh, how about every round bet? is it much more stressful for gamblers to bet every round? so we have much more stressful tendencies? So that the gambler is free to cross the boxer he chooses in each round? what do you think is it crazy enough to do?

I am sure we will have the option about what we want to do related to the boxing bet and we will not betting for KO's if we do not like. It is up to them to place the bet on the sports and even we do not know what they will bet. Yes, the fighter knows what they have to do and they realize the consequences of becoming the player, and I am sure they also know how to anticipate it for themselves.

To be precise, Not necessarily a fighter is ready to be in the ring without knowing the consequences. I believe he is much more understanding than us who just speculate and gamble for him. What's more, they are fighters who already have a pretty good experience, we don't have to worry about unexpected things in the ring.

[ethereumhunter]

I am sure we will have the option about what we want to do related to the boxing bet and we will not betting for KO's if we do not like. It is up to them to place the bet on the sports and even we do not know what they will bet. Yes, the fighter knows what they have to do and they realize the consequences of becoming the player, and I am sure they also know how to anticipate it for themselves.

To be precise, Not necessarily a fighter is ready to be in the ring without knowing the consequences. I believe he is much more understanding than us who just speculate and gamble for him. What's more, they are fighters who already have a pretty good experience, we don't have to worry about unexpected things in the ring.

Indeed. The fighters will know and be sure about him, but the gamblers sometimes make a wrong analysis about the fighters to lose it at the end of the game. But no matter the fighters' condition, we need to have much information about the fighters so we can select the right fighter if we want to select him. I think we can let unexpected things happen because we can not always predict if the game can run smoothly as we want.

[Wexnident]

To be precise, Not necessarily a fighter is ready to be in the ring without knowing the consequences. I believe he is much more understanding than us who just speculate and gamble for him. What's more, they are fighters who already have a pretty good experience, we don't have to worry about unexpected things in the ring.

That's overpraising the boxers ngl. Even if they are fighters with a ton of experience, the same could be said for their opponents, fighting in the ring means risking injuries and mental stress, no matter how much experience, strength or whatnot you actually have. Pros are still humans, in the end, not to mention that we aren't exactly only talking about pros, but also newbie boxers and the like. Additionally, a fighter IS ready to be in the ring WHILE knowing the consequences. We're in the 21st-century man, no one can force someone to actually fight against their will. Circumstances may force them so, but it doesn't necessarily mean that they couldn't choose not to do so.

[lienfaye]

For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

Knowing that these boxers are fit to be in the ring and prepared themselves for what can possibly happen are enough reason to be at ease as a fan that they're doing this for entertainment. Well boxers know (regardless if they win or not) that money is guaranteed, a main motivation to win the fight. Besides they're aware of the consequences of their action, getting seriously injured is one of it. Seeing this kind of sports are really entertaining but it depends on a person's stance regarding this matter. Boxing is existing for long years already and for me its not really brutal unlike MMA and other sports requiring to take down the opponent in order to win.

[kotajikikox]

To be precise, Not necessarily a fighter is ready to be in the ring without knowing the consequences. I believe he is much more understanding than us who just speculate and gamble for him. What's more, they are fighters who already have a pretty good experience, we don't have to worry about unexpected things in the ring.

That's overpraising the boxers ngl. Even if they are fighters with a ton of experience, the same could be said for their opponents, fighting in the ring means risking injuries and mental stress, no matter how much experience, strength or whatnot you actually have. Pros are still humans, in the end, not to mention that we aren't exactly only talking about pros, but also newbie boxers and the like. Additionally, a fighter IS ready to be in the ring WHILE knowing the consequences. We're in the 21st-century man, no one can force someone to actually fight against their will. Circumstances may force them so, but it doesn't necessarily mean that they couldn't choose not to do so.

yes and that is not how we must treat them , understanding the consequences is indeed but they are still concern about their physical health because their bread and butter are their body and anything happens to any part of it will surely affect their career or their future.

they are tough of course, they are fighter of course, they are fearless of course , but they are still human that in any form may feel what losing is all about.

[Oasisman]

~snip~

Obviously, people participating in that sports already know the risks.

Money and fame are waiting for them that's why those risks are not really being considered since their focus is to maintain winning as possible. Not just within boxing but the possibility of becoming an ambassador or sports sponsor has a chance while on progress.

Others succeed, others failed, and that's the reality of this sport.

The only good thing I can think of about these professional
 boxers is that they're lucky to be making tons of money out of their passion as a professional athlete.
While most regular people struggle to their day job even If it's against their passion just to put something in the table for their family.
But then again the risk of these contact sports are always high. It could either be a career ending injury or worse death. Well, If there's a huge amount of money in the line they're more than ready for it.
Also, lucky are those successful ones especially when they're offered with partnership from big business names.

[bitterguy28]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

Even in our early days there are even worst like Gladiator fighting and it has been recorded that there will no exception that once you lose then you must die.

I think the ethics in hurting each other in particular sports is required and this even the moment of the game , imagine a boxing without hurting? like Wrestling in which now comes to be scripted that's why the popularity of WWE goes lowered now.

[Fredomago]

The only good thing I can think of about these professional
 boxers is that they're lucky to be making tons of money out of their passion as a professional athlete.
While most regular people struggle to their day job even If it's against their passion just to put something in the table for their family.
But then again the risk of these contact sports are always high. It could either be a career ending injury or worse death. Well, If there's a huge amount of money in the line they're more than ready for it.
Also, lucky are those successful ones especially when they're offered with partnership from big business names.

And most of those figters/boxers are after to this opportunities, they are willing to take the risk even to the point of losing their lives or to forever take the damages in exchange of big money that awaits them once they've established their names inside this profession.

No doubt even to those beginners, they are all hoping that one day big event will take place and they can change the life of their love ones

using this venue if luck permits them.

[finaleshot2016]

The only good thing I can think of about these professional
 boxers is that they're lucky to be making tons of money out of their passion as a professional athlete.
While most regular people struggle to their day job even If it's against their passion just to put something in the table for their family.
But then again the risk of these contact sports are always high. It could either be a career ending injury or worse death. Well, If there's a huge amount of money in the line they're more than ready for it.
Also, lucky are those successful ones especially when they're offered with partnership from big business names.

And most of those figters/boxers are after to this opportunities, they are willing to take the risk even to the point of losing their lives or to forever take the damages in exchange of big money that awaits them once they've established their names inside this profession.

No doubt even to those beginners, they are all hoping that one day big event will take place and they can change the life of their love ones

using this venue if luck permits them.

But that's life; I believe most athletes who compete in sports tournaments do so for the money and to benefit from their talent because it's the only way they can support their families. So I completely understand why some people participate in dangerous sports like slapping tournaments because they have such a strong desire to survive in this world. Most popular athletes who have achieved success today come from not-so-rich families; they work extremely hard and use this as motivation to compete in every tournament, even if their lives are at stake. Money rules the world, so in order to survive, they must engage in brutal activities.

[peter0425]

The only good thing I can think of about these professional
 boxers is that they're lucky to be making tons of money out of their passion as a professional athlete.
While most regular people struggle to their day job even If it's against their passion just to put something in the table for their family.
But then again the risk of these contact sports are always high. It could either be a career ending injury or worse death. Well, If there's a huge amount of money in the line they're more than ready for it.
Also, lucky are those successful ones especially when they're offered with partnership from big business names.

And most of those figters/boxers are after to this opportunities, they are willing to take the risk even to the point of losing their lives or to forever take the damages in exchange of big money that awaits them once they've established their names inside this profession.

No doubt even to those beginners, they are all hoping that one day big event will take place and they can change the life of their love ones

using this venue if luck permits them.

There is no much to desire than gaining money at the same time popularity because their name will be listed in history and that is the main goal, making their name in popularity and their Income in which insignificantly high.

so Dead or alive they are risking everything for their dreams .

[Viscore]

The only good thing I can think of about these professional
 boxers is that they're lucky to be making tons of money out of their passion as a professional athlete.
While most regular people struggle to their day job even If it's against their passion just to put something in the table for their family.
But then again the risk of these contact sports are always high. It could either be a career ending injury or worse death. Well, If there's a huge amount of money in the line they're more than ready for it.
Also, lucky are those successful ones especially when they're offered with partnership from big business names.

And most of those figters/boxers are after to this opportunities, they are willing to take the risk even to the point of losing their lives or to forever take the damages in exchange of big money that awaits them once they've established their names inside this profession.

No doubt even to those beginners, they are all hoping that one day big event will take place and they can change the life of their love ones

using this venue if luck permits them.

There is no much to desire than gaining money at the same time popularity because their name will be listed in history and that is the main goal, making their name in popularity and their Income in which insignificantly high.

so Dead or alive they are risking everything for their dreams .

Gambling is risky, but there are only a few cases where a boxer was seriously ill because of boxing, if the organization will stop, I think it will cause a domino effect on other combat games which I don't think is possible, so boxing will stay and we have to understand that this is only for risk-takers and those who are capable enough to fight.

[AicecreaME]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

Compare to slapping tournament, boxing tournament is much more safer because they are being trained to be physically and mentally prepared for the upcoming match, unlike slapping tournament that people are just practicing to hit anything to make their slap stronger but never train themselves to survive the slap that is going to be made in every match, that's my opinion to that.

[harizen]

Compare to slapping tournament, boxing tournament is much more safer because they are being trained to be physically and mentally prepared for the upcoming match, unlike slapping tournament that people are just practicing to hit anything to make their slap stronger but never train themselves to survive the slap that is going to be made in every match, that's my opinion to that.

And if I'm not mistaken, the slapping tournament was started from "fun" and because it was able to attract more viewers, it's now become an entertainment sport. At first, a simple face-off then the match will start. No category, no given tier, everything is settled just be agreement.

Obviously, a much less professional approach compare to boxing where everything is well prepared beforehand and there's a certain tier (weight class).

... that they're lucky to be making tons of money out of their passion as a professional athlete.

You nailed it, making money out of their own interest. It's like that they are being paid for something that they really like.

[freedomgo]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

Compare to slapping tournament, boxing tournament is much more safer because they are being trained to be physically and mentally prepared for the upcoming match, unlike slapping tournament that people are just practicing to hit anything to make their slap stronger but never train themselves to survive the slap that is going to be made in every match, that's my opinion to that.

I don't understand why a slapping tournament was invented, this is not sports as you have to take the slap and it only depends if your body can take the hit, if not, then you will probably feel the pain that might affect, and this could also hurt your head. I don't know since I don't really find that sport interesting, boxing is popular in our country and I'm hoping that slapping tournaments will not start to be popular.

[ene1980]

To be precise, Not necessarily a fighter is ready to be in the ring without knowing the consequences. I believe he is much more understanding than us who just speculate and gamble for him. What's more, they are fighters who already have a pretty good experience, we don't have to worry about unexpected things in the ring.

The fighters do understand the dynamics and he is well aware of the consequences but that does not mean that he will be speculating and gambling for him, it is not even possible to wage a bet on the match you are involved and if you are caught you will be suspended as far as i understand. Unexpected things do happen in the ring because it is a fight but for that there are referees.

[el kaka22]

"How it is considered legal" is a whole another question from betting. If it is legal to box and legal to gamble on that box then what we are doing is legal and there is nothing to care afterwards, I am not a doctor, I am not a trainer, I am not a boxer because those are the people that should be considering this as a risk and if they are not caring about it and they just completely ignore it then we should not consider this as an unethical problem.

Think about it there are thousands who work in this field, and every boxer needs to get checked out before every single fight, how come they are giving greenlight for fighters and then it is unethical for me to just gamble? I think it is totally fine. How fighting is allowed is a whole another topic of course.

[Naficopa]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

Due to the fact that people hit each other, boxing is taken as a violent sport. However, there are many more, much more dangerous and violent sports (rugby, judo etc). I think if we wanted boxing to be considered unethical, we would have to define many other sports as well, and that will never happen.

[CryptocurencyKing]

There have been several arguments I've encountered or seen that portrayed wresting as an act than an actual fight but, non have I seen for boxing. This goes the far length of proving boxing to be the real deal. The actual hitting, jaw breaking and knock out sport that we see on the arena either on TV or viewing in the stadium. I wonder at what point do the athletes decide that yeah, they are sure to be a professional boxer. It's way much unpleasen to me to even watch another person being hit until he or she bleeds out on the eyelids and mouth.

Apparently, it some ones passion, a highly paid one at that so, you really can't take it out of them. The best is what is being done, making it legal, a show out of it and taxing it as well. At least there are rules and both athletes and fans understands it.

[maju69]

That's overpraising the boxers ngl. Even if they are fighters with a ton of experience, the same could be said for their opponents, fighting in the ring means risking injuries and mental stress, no matter how much experience, strength or whatnot you actually have. Pros are still humans, in the end, not to mention that we aren't exactly only talking about pros, but also newbie boxers and the like. Additionally, a fighter IS ready to be in the ring WHILE knowing the consequences. We're in the 21st-century man, no one can force someone to actually fight against their will. Circumstances may force them so, but it doesn't necessarily mean that they couldn't choose not to do so.

That's overpraising the boxers ngl. Even if they are fighters with a ton of experience, the same could be said for their opponents, fighting in the ring means risking injuries and mental stress, no matter how much experience, strength or whatnot you actually have. Pros are still humans, in the end, not to mention that we aren't exactly only talking about pros, but also newbie boxers and the like. Additionally, a fighter IS ready to be in the ring WHILE knowing the consequences. We're in the 21st-century man, no one can force someone to actually fight against their will. Circumstances may force them so, but it doesn't necessarily mean that they couldn't choose not to do so.

yes and that is not how we must treat them , understanding the consequences is indeed but they are still concern about their physical health because their bread and butter are their body and anything happens to any part of it will surely affect their career or their future.

they are tough of course, they are fighter of course, they are fearless of course , but they are still human that in any form may feel what losing is all about.

The fighters do understand the dynamics and he is well aware of the consequences but that does not mean that he will be speculating and gambling for him, it is not even possible to wage a bet on the match you are involved and if you are caught you will be suspended as far as i understand. Unexpected things do happen in the ring because it is a fight but for that there are referees.

Everything goes according to his wishes and talents. Should we blame the referee? trainer? that forced them to fight? isn't it not. They fight on the basis of abilities that are indeed hobbies in that field, whether or not injuries are no longer a concern, because basically a fighter who is already in the ring and shown on world television can't possibly fight under coercion.

[jaberwock]

And most of those figters/boxers are after to this opportunities, they are willing to take the risk even to the point of losing their lives or to forever take the damages in exchange of big money that awaits them once they've established their names inside this profession.

No doubt even to those beginners, they are all hoping that one day big event will take place and they can change the life of their love ones

using this venue if luck permits them.

But that's life; I believe most athletes who compete in sports tournaments do so for the money and to benefit from their talent because it's the only way they can support their families. So I completely understand why some people participate in dangerous sports like slapping tournaments because they have such a strong desire to survive in this world. Most popular athletes who have achieved success today come from not-so-rich families; they work extremely hard and use this as motivation to compete in every tournament, even if their lives are at stake. Money rules the world, so in order to survive, they must engage in brutal activities.

The staggering difference between the bottom level and the top level is the biggest cause of concern, which is the reason why there could be some understanding of "it does not worth it". Sure if you are Floyd Mayweather and still fight at 50 years old and maybe one day you get a punch that does something to your brain so bad that you turn your life to a horrible situation, just because you wanted to fight one more time, however dude makes like 100 million, so it does look like it worths it, I would be literally willing to simply tied down and get punched for 15 rounds by Mayweather for that much money, even if something happens to me at least my family will be rich after I die.

But amateur boxers get like 100 bucks when they start, getting punched and bloodied up for 100 bucks is definitely not worth it at all and that difference is the reason why we lack more and more amazing fighters. You have to really love the sport to continue.

[iTradeChips]

No one has ever gave his opinion about boxing more elegant than Jonathan Lyons in answering the question "Should boxing be legal?":

"Boxing is brutal. There is no fan of the pugilist arts that will say otherwise. Boxing has come a long way from Marquis de Queensbury and bare knuckled brawling to today's spectacle.

It should be pointed out that the point of boxing, is not to pummel one's opponent to a bloody pulp, but to score points by means of a combination of hits to the upper body.

As has been noted in other answers, at the amateur level, a considerable amount of padding has been added to reduce injury. The thumbless glove alone was a great improvement. I think it would be wise to extend these innovations in the sport to the professional level. However, I do not believe that the sport should be banned altogether.

Boxing as a sport embodies an amazing demonstration of finesse under pressure. Stars of the sport not only include brutal sluggers but also graceful strategists like Sugar Ray Leonard, and Muhammad Ali. Yes, these men could drop an opponent to the mat in less than 15 rounds, but they really did float like butterflies and sting like bees.

Boxers do no more or less than we ask of other atheletes, they push their bodies to perform in an extreme contest. The best fights are not judged by KO or TKO, but by the referee and judges and then argued over for decades. The man (though some women have entered the sport) faces the certainty of being hit by an opponent of his own weight and class. There is nowhere to run or escape. The ring is bare. It is the purest contest of endurance.

Some may come for the pruient thrill of blood sport, but most true fans are attracted by the nobility of spirit displayed by the young men who enter the ring to test their courage and practiced stoicism on a razor's edge between the civility of the opening handshake and the onslaught of the opponents fist."

The boxers themselves in my opinion, endure training so hard that it makes them strong and determined to beat other fighters and get the fame, glory, and fortune that they deserve. No wonder, deserving boxers, they get filthy rich.

Source: https://www.quora.com/Should-boxing-remain-legal

[crzy]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

Even in our early days there are even worst like Gladiator fighting and it has been recorded that there will no exception that once you lose then you must die.

I think the ethics in hurting each other in particular sports is required and this even the moment of the game , imagine a boxing without hurting? like Wrestling in which now comes to be scripted that's why the popularity of WWE goes lowered now.

That’s part of the game and we are playing like that since then, if you’re a boxer you already know that gamblers are betting with you and that can actually boost your confidence because they’ll support you. The ethics here is more about the passion, you may feel the pain but you are fighting for it and that’s your biggest reason why you keep on fighting, gambling is just a part of that game.

[aioc]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

Back in the olden days it was savagery back then because there is too much blood pour in the ring and they are fighting to the death, but now we are in a modern era, it's now based on science and arts, boxing and other contact sports now are more regulated, before you get into the ring you have to fit and in the best of health and undergone a lot of physical examination, and we have a referee to stop the fight anytime and check for any hard blows and conditions of both fighters and of course we have doctors to oversee the general condition of both fighters.

Contact sports is now an art that represents strength, speed and toughness that represents everything that we want to be and admire, science and arts made it legal now.

 

[boyptc]

Back in the olden days it was savagery back then because there is too much blood pour in the ring and they are fighting to the death, but now we are in a modern era, it's now based on science and arts, boxing and other contact sports now are more regulated, before you get into the ring you have to fit and in the best of health and undergone a lot of physical examination, and we have a referee to stop the fight anytime and check for any hard blows and conditions of both fighters and of course we have doctors to oversee the general condition of both fighters.

Those were the gladiator days.

And their strength is measured until how long they can endure death and the one who die first is the weaker ones. Well, we're no longer living in that era and what you've said about its differences between there and now istrue.

There's a long examination that one should pass before stepping on the ring.

[goinmerry]

Contact sports is now an art that represents strength, speed and toughness that represents everything that we want to be and admire, science and arts made it legal now.

And now turned into businesses.

In every boxing fight, advertisements are flowing and subject to tax. The government is also taking a benefits from it. That's why these sports have lots of legal terms if we go deep right from contract signing.

Being turned into gambling, we should not just talk about the negative side of this such as boxers are risking their life or what. That's why there are preparations and body conditioning that takes up to several months before the actual fight to ensure that both boxers are fit to match.

[Silberman]

And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

It's legal because there are precautionary measures being taken to ensure the safety of the competitors, they are not fighting to the death, once an opponent is clearly seen hurt the fight will be stopped, and both competitors are made sure they are on their peak of health, so it's really a battle of speed and strength not savagery.

Not only that there are many measures that are being taken to protect the fighters, even if the fighter wants to keep boxing the referee can stop the fight, their coaches can stop the fight and the doctor can stop the fight too, so despite how brutal the sport may seem to many people there are many precautions that are being taken in order to ensure that the fighters are in top shape and are healthy enough to engage in such a demanding sport.

[Fredomago]

And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

It's legal because there are precautionary measures being taken to ensure the safety of the competitors, they are not fighting to the death, once an opponent is clearly seen hurt the fight will be stopped, and both competitors are made sure they are on their peak of health, so it's really a battle of speed and strength not savagery.

Not only that there are many measures that are being taken to protect the fighters, even if the fighter wants to keep boxing the referee can stop the fight, their coaches can stop the fight and the doctor can stop the fight too, so despite how brutal the sport may seem to many people there are many precautions that are being taken in order to ensure that the fighters are in top shape and are healthy enough to engage in such a demanding sport.

Taken to the account those are really part of safety measures of both fighters while fighting inside the ring, though even that are present accident may happened and the risk for the lives of this two fighters are there.

It's been a long time sports and fighters together with their whole training camps they are aware of this risk before they accept the fight.

Good thing also that refs are more focus they can stop the fight once they've seen possible concerns with fighters conditions.

[just_Alice]

No one has ever gave his opinion about boxing more elegant than Jonathan Lyons in answering the question "Should boxing be legal?":

"Boxing is brutal. There is no fan of the pugilist arts that will say otherwise. Boxing has come a long way from Marquis de Queensbury and bare knuckled brawling to today's spectacle.

It should be pointed out that the point of boxing, is not to pummel one's opponent to a bloody pulp, but to score points by means of a combination of hits to the upper body.

As has been noted in other answers, at the amateur level, a considerable amount of padding has been added to reduce injury. The thumbless glove alone was a great improvement. I think it would be wise to extend these innovations in the sport to the professional level. However, I do not believe that the sport should be banned altogether.


The boxers themselves in my opinion, endure training so hard that it makes them strong and determined to beat other fighters and get the fame, glory, and fortune that they deserve. No wonder, deserving boxers, they get filthy rich.

I guess the general point is right, boxing is rather the game of endurance than a pummelling and there are certain rules and security measures. Nevertheless, this doesn’t deny the fact that boxing is among the most traumatic kinds of sports (if not the most) and leads to serious long-term injuries. Yes, boxers become rich stars, so one could say it all pays off, but if in the end, one has brain damage does fame really matter?

[Oasisman]

~snip~

I guess the general point is right, boxing is rather the game of endurance than a pummelling and there are certain rules and security measures. Nevertheless, this doesn’t deny the fact that boxing is among the most traumatic kinds of sports (if not the most) and leads to serious long-term injuries. Yes, boxers become rich stars, so one could say it all pays off, but if in the end, one has brain damage does fame really matter?

Professional boxers are very prone to long term brain damages, and when that happens there would be no amount of money and fame that could fix it. So I guess that really doesn't matter anyway as long as they're earning tons of money while they're still in their prime.
The most important thing for a famous boxer to do is to have a sustainable income after the retirement so they could at least support a treatment to a possible long term health effects in boxing.
I've seen a former pro boxer who eventually became a wife beater after his retirement. It was later found out that he's suffering from a mental abnormalities.

[carlfebz2]

~snip~

I guess the general point is right, boxing is rather the game of endurance than a pummelling and there are certain rules and security measures. Nevertheless, this doesn’t deny the fact that boxing is among the most traumatic kinds of sports (if not the most) and leads to serious long-term injuries. Yes, boxers become rich stars, so one could say it all pays off, but if in the end, one has brain damage does fame really matter?

Professional boxers are very prone to long term brain damages, and when that happens there would be no amount of money and fame that could fix it. So I guess that really doesn't matter anyway as long as they're earning tons of money while they're still in their prime.
The most important thing for a famous boxer to do is to have a sustainable income after the retirement so they could at least support a treatment to a possible long term health effects in boxing.
I've seen a former pro boxer who eventually became a wife beater after his retirement. It was later found out that he's suffering from a mental abnormalities.

Lets put up some links about mental issues or abnormalities.

https://www.good.is/sports/boxing-star-depression
https://www.ringtv.com/620707-ryan-garcia-battling-mental-health-issues-withdraws-from-javier-fortuna-bout/

This is true and its not really bad to have those motives on earning as much as they can when they are still able to do so.

[Oceat]

~snip~

I guess the general point is right, boxing is rather the game of endurance than a pummelling and there are certain rules and security measures. Nevertheless, this doesn’t deny the fact that boxing is among the most traumatic kinds of sports (if not the most) and leads to serious long-term injuries. Yes, boxers become rich stars, so one could say it all pays off, but if in the end, one has brain damage does fame really matter?

Professional boxers are very prone to long term brain damages, and when that happens there would be no amount of money and fame that could fix it. So I guess that really doesn't matter anyway as long as they're earning tons of money while they're still in their prime.
The most important thing for a famous boxer to do is to have a sustainable income after the retirement so they could at least support a treatment to a possible long term health effects in boxing.
I've seen a former pro boxer who eventually became a wife beater after his retirement. It was later found out that he's suffering from a mental abnormalities.

Lets put up some links about mental issues or abnormalities.

https://www.good.is/sports/boxing-star-depression
https://www.ringtv.com/620707-ryan-garcia-battling-mental-health-issues-withdraws-from-javier-fortuna-bout/

This is true and its not really bad to have those motives on earning as much as they can when they are still able to do so.

Well, obviously they already know the risk about it and still they continue, it's just because it's all about the money, the prize when you win and the fame that is waiting for you once your name is being shout in the world. There's always a way to seek medical care about of these former/retired boxers to fox their illnesses.

And it's not just boxing as a sports having this kind of risk you we shouldn't look only on this case because there are other sports that was more risky than boxing.

[Rruchi man]

It’s a crazy world out there. Folks don’t care if you punch the opponent to death. As long as they get entertained and win some cash while at it.  I mean the thrill people get both from watching and betting on this type of competition is almost as old as humans. The Roman gladiators would almost always fight to the death. Boxing, MMA, and other forms combat sports can be likened to it.

[johhnyUA]

I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported?

Man, any professional sport is harmful for people who are involved in. Without any exceptions. Even such sport as biking is traumatic. But this is not the reason to forbid it. And while it still allowed, why we can't bet on it? I think everything is fair.

Boxers choose their life and the moment to get out of it. Box isn't some kind of gladiator fights where you at high risk of losing your life or health. I don't see any problem.

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

That's why there is a referee who officiates the match. and also the rules in boxing seems to be made to avoid fatal accidents like that. like not allowed to hit back of the head . You cannot hit below the belt https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Rules_of_Boxing it is categorized as a martial art sports . so does

[uneng]

No one has ever gave his opinion about boxing more elegant than Jonathan Lyons in answering the question "Should boxing be legal?":

"Boxing is brutal. There is no fan of the pugilist arts that will say otherwise. Boxing has come a long way from Marquis de Queensbury and bare knuckled brawling to today's spectacle.

It should be pointed out that the point of boxing, is not to pummel one's opponent to a bloody pulp, but to score points by means of a combination of hits to the upper body.

As has been noted in other answers, at the amateur level, a considerable amount of padding has been added to reduce injury. The thumbless glove alone was a great improvement. I think it would be wise to extend these innovations in the sport to the professional level. However, I do not believe that the sport should be banned altogether.


The boxers themselves in my opinion, endure training so hard that it makes them strong and determined to beat other fighters and get the fame, glory, and fortune that they deserve. No wonder, deserving boxers, they get filthy rich.

I guess the general point is right, boxing is rather the game of endurance than a pummelling and there are certain rules and security measures. Nevertheless, this doesn’t deny the fact that boxing is among the most traumatic kinds of sports (if not the most) and leads to serious long-term injuries. Yes, boxers become rich stars, so one could say it all pays off, but if in the end, one has brain damage does fame really matter?

If it was me to choose I would never exchange health (especially mental health) for fame or money. Doesn't matter how much money you have, without mental health you are nothing as it won't be possible to enjoy the fortune you have made along the years in a pleasant way. So it's a pointless decision to risk health aiming to sit at a throne made of dust.
But there are some people that are so aggressive that they don't think like this and prefer to damage their health just to feel the relief of overflowing their angry inside an arena, so they live a calm routine outside the ring. Maybe if it wasn't the sport the lives of those fighters would be much more irritable and violent against people who have nothing to do with them.

[dothebeats]

We've been having chariot races, wrestling, gladiator fights, and basically any other fighting competitions for over a millennium. Why then, would a relatively 'safe' and controlled sport be something morally wrong? Boxing isn't a competition aimed to kill one opponent in order to score a victory, but rather to showcase how you handle a bout inside a ring using your fists. The goal is to score enough points throughout the match to win, and not to leave your opponent beaten as a pulp. While it is true that it happens, but still, for the most part, scores decide who wins the match.

Every sport has risks laid bare on the players, not just boxing. And with your logic, shouldn't every physical sport be morally wrong and therefore outlawed?

[Alisha-k]

I do think that in ethically speaking if both fighters are consenting with the fight, it should proceed. In my opinion, fighting sports are designed to be bloody as much as possible and it's in the human race's DNA to have or enjoy bloodsport since most of our time in this planet has been wars and murders. Also, if we were to remove this sports due to "ethical" reasons, the fighters would lose their purpose since that's all they knew all their life.

You have a strong point here. This fighters trained  for years to get to this point in their Carrier and they all endured years of regorous trainings just to represent In the ring. We just have to accept them the way they are they were not forced into it so as such all we owe them is our little supporting of betting and watching so they too can find the events

[rodskee]

I do think that in ethically speaking if both fighters are consenting with the fight, it should proceed. In my opinion, fighting sports are designed to be bloody as much as possible and it's in the human race's DNA to have or enjoy bloodsport since most of our time in this planet has been wars and murders. Also, if we were to remove this sports due to "ethical" reasons, the fighters would lose their purpose since that's all they knew all their life.

You have a strong point here. This fighters trained  for years to get to this point in their Carrier and they all endured years of regorous trainings just to represent In the ring. We just have to accept them the way they are they were not forced into it so as such all we owe them is our little supporting of betting and watching so they too can find the events

every people has their own attitude and character , and so as boxer .. we cannot put them into things that we will only like while they are not.
and yeah they have spend almost all their life just to reach what they are now so let us keep them what they wanted to be.
as long as they are not stepping others in real life and only their wordings are attacking others then that is fine because they are human and they have their own reason why they are such a dumb sometimes.
but boxers are gifted remember that , not all people has the ability to box for straight 12 rounds and still standing.

[michellee]

It’s a crazy world out there. Folks don’t care if you punch the opponent to death. As long as they get entertained and win some cash while at it.  I mean the thrill people get both from watching and betting on this type of competition is almost as old as humans. The Roman gladiators would almost always fight to the death. Boxing, MMA, and other forms combat sports can be likened to it.

If folks care about them, we will see many demonstrations in many places about prohibiting that sports because that is related to human lives. People will not stop demonstrating until combat sports finally prohibit and delete from the sports.

But we do not see that because people enjoy seeing each player fight until one of them admits their weakness. But MMA and other forms of combat sports associations use a warning that the show is not for underage and they are prohibited from using it in their lives.

[Fortify]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

It's interesting that you mention head trauma because American football has built quite a reputation for causing the same kind of damage and it could potentially be much worse (imagine one of those quarterbacks charging at you full pelt and you running straight towards them). I think we should be researching and teaching all athletes about the potential brain damaging effects of sports at an early age - not to scare them off, but to make sure that they are fully aware that it may cause difficulties elsewhere later in life. Either that or you need to see if adding much greater padding protection to absorb the hits will be able to mitigate the damage far enough.

[Silberman]

I guess the general point is right, boxing is rather the game of endurance than a pummelling and there are certain rules and security measures. Nevertheless, this doesn’t deny the fact that boxing is among the most traumatic kinds of sports (if not the most) and leads to serious long-term injuries. Yes, boxers become rich stars, so one could say it all pays off, but if in the end, one has brain damage does fame really matter?

You need to understand that most of those that take boxing and try to pursue a professional career there are very poor so they do not really have a lot of options and boxing is their ticket out of that poverty, obviously not everyone is like that but the majority are, at least at my country, so it is obvious they made that decision knowing very well the consequences this could entail and they still decided to become boxers and as such their decision must be respected.

[Mahanton]

I guess the general point is right, boxing is rather the game of endurance than a pummelling and there are certain rules and security measures. Nevertheless, this doesn’t deny the fact that boxing is among the most traumatic kinds of sports (if not the most) and leads to serious long-term injuries. Yes, boxers become rich stars, so one could say it all pays off, but if in the end, one has brain damage does fame really matter?

You need to understand that most of those that take boxing and try to pursue a professional career there are very poor so they do not really have a lot of options and boxing is their ticket out of that poverty, obviously not everyone is like that but the majority are, at least at my country, so it is obvious they made that decision knowing very well the consequences this could entail and they still decided to become boxers and as such their decision must be respected.

Cant consider that those are consequences but rather would be the risk that they are taking when they do enter the boxing career but well we do know that not every sport wouldnt have any risk
when it comes to physical matters.Its not really that necessary that those people who had been joining is just poor but there are still who do pursue out into this career due to interest
or definitely his wish to join up this sport no matter on what financial status that they do have in life but i do agree that i do find some countries which its people is been
really seeing this boxing sport is they key for them to at least improve their lives if they do make well.

[mv1986]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

I have just answered something similar in the slapping tournament thread as well. Boxing and slapping, UFC also, is different from racing because the goal actually is to humiliate your opponent. We have had a couple of situations now when boxers died. Imagine you put a big amount of money on your favorite, he knocks the other guy out and that guy dies afterwards, can you still enjoy the money you won? That's a bit odd, a word which fits the topic gambling where it is all about odds...

[Tumanggor]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

Boxing is a sport that has been around for a long time and is recognized by the world as one of the favorites
As for why it's allowed to place bets on 2 people hitting each other, I don't understand either, but I believe it becomes legal because we all including the government approve it as one of the legal sports

honestly I never bet on boxing because I think that sport is too hard and I don't really like it

[lienfaye]

Imagine you put a big amount of money on your favorite, he knocks the other guy out and that guy dies afterwards, can you still enjoy the money you won?

Surely you wont be happy about it but these players are professional and aware of the risk for engaging themselves in this kind of sports, plus they're well-paid. There are incidents ending up to this unfortunate situation but its not the aim of boxing and the other sports as well. That's why it requires an athlete to be mentally and physically fit before getting into a fight because it has risk of having a serious injuries.

[coin-investor]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

Yes it is risky but so does all the other sports, there are also risk involved in these sports and there are injuries also, boxing although risky but compared to old times we have doctors, referees, and governing bodies to check if the fighters are all fit and capable to endure being hit and they also see to it that they are capable to defend themselves, there's no illegal on these sports as long as their bodies that oversees the activities.

[Twinkledoe]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

Yes it is risky but so does all the other sports, there are also risk involved in these sports and there are injuries also, boxing although risky but compared to old times we have doctors, referees, and governing bodies to check if the fighters are all fit and capable to endure being hit and they also see to it that they are capable to defend themselves, there's no illegal on these sports as long as their bodies that oversees the activities.

This is the reason why there is referee, to stop foul actions inside the ring. Also, before both boxers get inside the ring, I am sure, they already know the rules inside the ring because if not, if they violate those rules, they will lose the match and maybe lose their license as well. So I know, these boxers are very careful not to get violation because this can greatly affect their boxing career. And somehow, they are already abiding the ethics in boxing. So yeah, there's ethics also here.

[Reid]

Imagine you put a big amount of money on your favorite, he knocks the other guy out and that guy dies afterwards, can you still enjoy the money you won?

Surely you wont be happy about it but these players are professional and aware of the risk for engaging themselves in this kind of sports, plus they're well-paid. There are incidents ending up to this unfortunate situation but its not the aim of boxing and the other sports as well. That's why it requires an athlete to be mentally and physically fit before getting into a fight because it has risk of having a serious injuries.

That's why they say "always protect yourself" and they have to exaggerate that to avoid unfortunate moments like dying in the ring.
Ethical. MMA had worse and it's also called a sport. You can see blood splattering all around the ring turning the floor from white to red and then broken bones.

I think people just enjoy those types of games. People hurting each other and see the length of how resistant a human being can be.
Even in other sports like basketball. We enjoy it more when the game heats up and they are starting to hurt each other. "Malice in the Palace" 
It's human nature and not about ethics anymore.

[electronicash]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

Yes it is risky but so does all the other sports, there are also risk involved in these sports and there are injuries also, boxing although risky but compared to old times we have doctors, referees, and governing bodies to check if the fighters are all fit and capable to endure being hit and they also see to it that they are capable to defend themselves, there's no illegal on these sports as long as their bodies that oversees the activities.

the rules in boxing today is probably the best we could come up today unlike what we have before. there was no standing knockout back in the days. as long the boxer stands even if he is unconscious the referree couldn't call it a knockout for he has to fall on the canvas first. that is not safe anymore today.

once the referre sees a boxer drops his hands or not protecting himself, the referree will stop the fight.

[molsewid]

You need to understand that most of those that take boxing and try to pursue a professional career there are very poor so they do not really have a lot of options and boxing is their ticket out of that poverty, obviously not everyone is like that but the majority are, at least at my country, so it is obvious they made that decision knowing very well the consequences this could entail and they still decided to become boxers and as such their decision must be respected.

It's a sad reality but poverty was one of the main reason of some of the boxers I know that choose to fulfill this boxing career but on the other side it is quite good to see those people who was now doing well in their life with the help of this game. One of them I know is the well-known boxer Manny Pacquiao that is now a one of a billionaire alive and still keep on doing what he loves despite of being busy in his another career which is politics.

[Fredomago]

You need to understand that most of those that take boxing and try to pursue a professional career there are very poor so they do not really have a lot of options and boxing is their ticket out of that poverty, obviously not everyone is like that but the majority are, at least at my country, so it is obvious they made that decision knowing very well the consequences this could entail and they still decided to become boxers and as such their decision must be respected.

It's a sad reality but poverty was one of the main reason of some of the boxers I know that choose to fulfill this boxing career but on the other side it is quite good to see those people who was now doing well in their life with the help of this game. One of them I know is the well-known boxer Manny Pacquiao that is now a one of a billionaire alive and still keep on doing what he loves despite of being busy in his another career which is politics.

Manny Pacquiao is indeed a living example, chasing your dreams and reaching high even you came from a poor family. He's now a living legend and most of those boxers who came from poor society are now dreaming to be like him.

Sad thing that there are unlucky fighters who lost their lives in chase of reaching their dreams, mismanage fight and other issues are prone for those people who wanted to take the risk.

determination and luck, both have the influenced to each fighter who wants to fulfil their dreams.

[btc78]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

It depends on the country, in some countries it's allowed and being shown public and in other countries it's illegal and only done in hidden places. People like violence and like to see it and also like to bet on it. As for boxing or slapping tournaments, the athletes know the rules and long term consequences beforehand. And even though it is bad and people actually die from the sport, there are still plenty of people doing it. Also what about all the animals fighting against each other and people bet on it? This is morally wrong too.

this are considered as SPORTS so having that i think there is no way that this will be not allowed in some country though the Betting is it that being banned in some countries that does not allow gambling but in totality ? it is the sports that we are talking here .
because to like it or not even if my country eventually banned betting in public still we as friend or social media groups will still organized to bet in our favorite boxers or sports and this will never be stopped.
think of your favorite thing to do that in all of a sudden will be forbidden ? do you think it is easy to achieve ?

[Ziskinberg]

And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

It's much better than countries going to war and in conflict, boxing is considered art in sports and Olympics you need to be physically fit and well trained to compete, they are trained to get hurt and hurt they are not average people they undergo training and they are certified to go on competition, and boxing is well regulated so they are not fighting to the death.

Boxers are not only thought how to beat the opponent, but they are also thought how to protect themselves at all times, and though it's normal that there are some boxers who suffers from serious injury, it's just rare compared to the total fights where boxers are still healthy after the fight.

So yes, there's no way it will be stop or ban as boxing is not the only sport that is considered a physical sport.

[mv1986]

Imagine you put a big amount of money on your favorite, he knocks the other guy out and that guy dies afterwards, can you still enjoy the money you won?

Surely you wont be happy about it but these players are professional and aware of the risk for engaging themselves in this kind of sports, plus they're well-paid. There are incidents ending up to this unfortunate situation but its not the aim of boxing and the other sports as well. That's why it requires an athlete to be mentally and physically fit before getting into a fight because it has risk of having a serious injuries.

Sure, but OP brought up the term ethics, and that term requires to reflect on boxing and gambling from many different perspectives. If I am different between gambling on chess and boxing, I would always go with chess. Money being put on you also puts pressure onto you. These boxers know what is at stake and try to resist a knockout under any circumstances, maybe at some point not knowing about their own condition but strong enough to hide that fact.
A sport that involves killing like the bull fights in Spain where you can see children yelling for the torero always got me concerned on Youtube. I was once asked to go into an arena in 2010 when it was still allowed, not sure if still is, and place some bets. My friend went there, I didn't.

[Peanutswar]

And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

It's much better than countries going to war and in conflict, boxing is considered art in sports and Olympics you need to be physically fit and well trained to compete, they are trained to get hurt and hurt they are not average people they undergo training and they are certified to go on competition, and boxing is well regulated so they are not fighting to the death.

Boxers are not only thought how to beat the opponent, but they are also thought how to protect themselves at all times, and though it's normal that there are some boxers who suffers from serious injury, it's just rare compared to the total fights where boxers are still healthy after the fight.

So yes, there's no way it will be stop or ban as boxing is not the only sport that is considered a physical sport.

At the end of the day still we are focusing with the pointing system of the boxing no matter what happen if they want to try to defense still if the enemy has a large number of hints to the opponent has the chance to win the game this is the reason why even they are defending themselves still need to focus on hitting too because it's all about the points.

Boxing is already marked as one of the biggest sports that people would like to it's too hard if they want to try to remove this in the world of gambling.

[yazher]

Boxers are not only thought how to beat the opponent, but they are also thought how to protect themselves at all times, and though it's normal that there are some boxers who suffers from serious injury, it's just rare compared to the total fights where boxers are still healthy after the fight.

So yes, there's no way it will be stop or ban as boxing is not the only sport that is considered a physical sport.

They already fixed the rules and removed the 15 rounds maximum round after that Korean boxer died after the fight. It was a great fight through the Korean was obviously struggling he went to finish the whole fight but result to his demise. Right now, referees are strict when it comes to stoping the fight to avoid such things to happened again because that tragedy not only killed the boxer but also the referee as well when he thought he was the one to blame for what happened and committed suicide because of that.

You can watch the full details here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96iwJ_B2jA0

[Silberman]

You need to understand that most of those that take boxing and try to pursue a professional career there are very poor so they do not really have a lot of options and boxing is their ticket out of that poverty, obviously not everyone is like that but the majority are, at least at my country, so it is obvious they made that decision knowing very well the consequences this could entail and they still decided to become boxers and as such their decision must be respected.

It's a sad reality but poverty was one of the main reason of some of the boxers I know that choose to fulfill this boxing career but on the other side it is quite good to see those people who was now doing well in their life with the help of this game. One of them I know is the well-known boxer Manny Pacquiao that is now a one of a billionaire alive and still keep on doing what he loves despite of being busy in his another career which is politics.

And there are many stories like that, another more recent example is Canelo he was also very poor and he had a job with no future but then he decided to become a boxer and then he was able to reach success, obviously these are extreme examples of people that became very wealthy through this activity and we know that the majority of boxers do not experiment success anywhere near that level but it show us why so many people decide to practice such a difficult sport.

[capcaypro]

with this thread i can talk about what i complain about this match.
I'm one of those people who don't like watching matches that people think are men's matches because they use physicality and fight. because in my opinion this is indeed profitable from a financial point of view but I agree with the thread from @paxmao because many boxers experience the long-term effects of repeated micro-traumas and even some are known to die in the ring, the latest example is one boxer named Aslam Khan who died in the ring after being knocked out by his opponent in January.
and actually about the pros and cons of this boxing thing, for example, the AMA, one of the medical associations in Australia, has asked for this game to be banned because it has claimed a lot of victims both physically and directly experiencing death.
but on the other hand there are many who like this kind of fight because in terms of finances it is still very large, especially in betting.
and actually if you look at it from now on it's actually not just boxing because now there are various kinds of tournaments such as slapping tournaments and even MMA also from a security point of view it's very difficult to say it's safe but apart from that there are still many who like this kind of fight regardless psychic and the risk of the person fighting

[Fredomago]

And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

It's much better than countries going to war and in conflict, boxing is considered art in sports and Olympics you need to be physically fit and well trained to compete, they are trained to get hurt and hurt they are not average people they undergo training and they are certified to go on competition, and boxing is well regulated so they are not fighting to the death.

Boxers are not only thought how to beat the opponent, but they are also thought how to protect themselves at all times, and though it's normal that there are some boxers who suffers from serious injury, it's just rare compared to the total fights where boxers are still healthy after the fight.

So yes, there's no way it will be stop or ban as boxing is not the only sport that is considered a physical sport.

With the modern days technologies, boxers are now more safe than before. The trainings and all those primary precautions that they needed to learn is being provided by coaches who understand this sport.

Before they go and begin their careers they've been trained to protect themselves, though it's unavoidable if accident happened but again just like you mentioned those fighters are more aware on how to lessen  chances of being hit from their critical areas. They are there to protect and to keep their fighting chance to win the match.

[tippytoes]

And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

It's much better than countries going to war and in conflict, boxing is considered art in sports and Olympics you need to be physically fit and well trained to compete, they are trained to get hurt and hurt they are not average people they undergo training and they are certified to go on competition, and boxing is well regulated so they are not fighting to the death.

Boxers are not only thought how to beat the opponent, but they are also thought how to protect themselves at all times, and though it's normal that there are some boxers who suffers from serious injury, it's just rare compared to the total fights where boxers are still healthy after the fight.

So yes, there's no way it will be stop or ban as boxing is not the only sport that is considered a physical sport.

With the modern days technologies, boxers are now more safe than before. The trainings and all those primary precautions that they needed to learn is being provided by coaches who understand this sport.

Before they go and begin their careers they've been trained to protect themselves, though it's unavoidable if accident happened but again just like you mentioned those fighters are more aware on how to lessen  chances of being hit from their critical areas. They are there to protect and to keep their fighting chance to win the match.

That's why before they step inside the ring, they already have the license in boxing. And to get that, certainly, they already gone thru seminars and the likes to know what are the do's and don'ts to be observed once inside the ring. Because one mistake, they can easily lose their license, which they have been working for years. This is why boxers don't want to make trouble outside the ring, because they need to take care of their boxing career. Most likely, they also are well-educated in terms of how to secure their body from any potential harm.

[capcaypro]

That's why before they step inside the ring, they already have the license in boxing. And to get that, certainly, they already gone thru seminars and the likes to know what are the do's and don'ts to be observed once inside the ring. Because one mistake, they can easily lose their license, which they have been working for years. This is why boxers don't want to make trouble outside the ring, because they need to take care of their boxing career. Most likely, they also are well-educated in terms of how to secure their body from any potential harm.

even though there is already a boxing license but when the boxers are in the ring and ready to fight I don't think there is any guarantee for them to be able to minimize the damage to their bodies that results in mental health and the most fatal is death because if they are already in the ring What matters is how to win the match. even if they are trained and have a license even if there is no guarantee for the boxers to get out safely in the match because the license is only a written permission to facilitate the affairs of his career not to make the fighters safe from all forms of attack both mentally and verbally

[Silberman]

That's why before they step inside the ring, they already have the license in boxing. And to get that, certainly, they already gone thru seminars and the likes to know what are the do's and don'ts to be observed once inside the ring. Because one mistake, they can easily lose their license, which they have been working for years. This is why boxers don't want to make trouble outside the ring, because they need to take care of their boxing career. Most likely, they also are well-educated in terms of how to secure their body from any potential harm.

even though there is already a boxing license but when the boxers are in the ring and ready to fight I don't think there is any guarantee for them to be able to minimize the damage to their bodies that results in mental health and the most fatal is death because if they are already in the ring What matters is how to win the match. even if they are trained and have a license even if there is no guarantee for the boxers to get out safely in the match because the license is only a written permission to facilitate the affairs of his career not to make the fighters safe from all forms of attack both mentally and verbally

The truth is that the average lifespan of the career of a boxer is very short, with the majority of boxers never making it past 10 fights and the reason for this is very simple, the sport is so brutal that very few can and endure it, this means that a long term effects that are bound to appear in the sport do not really happen to a lot of people and only happen to those that become professional and become successful while doing so, so things are not so bad as it may seem at first sight.