Ethics of boxing and gambling

[molsewid]

People are savage I think since fighting on each other is considered as sports in other countries and yet hate animal cruelty but still they like to see someone fighting each other. It's like an honor for them to fight the strongest man alive and then today it's now an official sports.

I don't know why though, I just don't get it why fighting each other is supposed to be fun when this is a sports and the only ethical about it that I see is they win a bigger prizes if they beat their opponent. Anyway, I think there's a weaver about it if someone wants to participate on this bloody sports then they have to be ready and accept the consequences and I think that's the risk of it. Meaning high risk equals high rewards.

After reading your comment mate it made me realize things like this I mean I used to believe that boxing is a sport which it is legally considered and now slapping tournament been practiced already and this only prove to me that everything has a price the higher the risk you put the higher the chance you may get what you want. I salute all the players that set to be the one stand on the ring, fighting aiming to win to be able to win a high prize while bettors watching and being entertained on what they have seen on the ring.

[freedomgo]

People are savage I think since fighting on each other is considered as sports in other countries and yet hate animal cruelty but still they like to see someone fighting each other. It's like an honor for them to fight the strongest man alive and then today it's now an official sports.

I don't know why though, I just don't get it why fighting each other is supposed to be fun when this is a sports and the only ethical about it that I see is they win a bigger prizes if they beat their opponent. Anyway, I think there's a weaver about it if someone wants to participate on this bloody sports then they have to be ready and accept the consequences and I think that's the risk of it. Meaning high risk equals high rewards.

After reading your comment mate it made me realize things like this I mean I used to believe that boxing is a sport which it is legally considered and now slapping tournament been practiced already and this only prove to me that everything has a price the higher the risk you put the higher the chance you may get what you want. I salute all the players that set to be the one stand on the ring, fighting aiming to win to be able to win a high prize while bettors watching and being entertained on what they have seen on the ring.

Obviously, it's just all for the money, if no one will promote this sport, no boxer would risk their lives fighting. Boxing is very popular, it will not be taken out already and I think no government has ever boxing yet because it entertains people, and it also creates opportunity for the successful boxer though we know the risk.

[harizen]

Anyway, I think there's a weaver about it if someone wants to participate on this bloody sports then they have to be ready and accept the consequences and I think that's the risk of it. Meaning high risk equals high rewards.

Obviously, people participating in that sports already know the risks.

Money and fame are waiting for them that's why those risks are not really being considered since their focus is to maintain winning as possible. Not just within boxing but the possibility of becoming an ambassador or sports sponsor has a chance while on progress.

Others succeed, others failed, and that's the reality of this sport.

[iv4n]

Anyway, I think there's a weaver about it if someone wants to participate on this bloody sports then they have to be ready and accept the consequences and I think that's the risk of it. Meaning high risk equals high rewards.

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Others succeed, others failed, and that's the reality of this sport.

I would say it's reality generally, in sport or life! Some people win, some lose... Why someone is winning and why someone is losing can be explained if we have all the relevant facts! After all, there are consequences for our actions, whatever they may be, and it's why we need to know what are we doing, how to do it properly, our goals and limitations.
I don't have a problem with people who have extreme standards, with people who risk a lot more than money, they risk their lives in trying to achieve something! It's their choice and we need to respect that!

[RealMalatesta]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

I don't want to sound philosophical but the truth is that we are living in a world where we modify rules according to our own desire and force them on others. I will tell you why I am saying it.

People eat nonveg and have no problems with it because it satisfies their taste but the same people will take a stand against animal cruelty. This is just one example, I will tell you more.

People have no problems with watching sports like boxing/wrestling/slapping/etc because it entertains them but the same people will act differently if they see a fight breaking out in the neighborhood. Why? Because it doesn't entertain them and in fact cause them tension.

The list can go on and on but we cannot deny that double standards exist and ethics are put aside.

[freedomgo]

This article briefly explained why boxing should not be ban and upong reading it, I realize that if they'll ban boxing, then other sports that are risky should also be ban.

here's the statement from the article that we can reflect on.

This article is part of a series looking at the moral dimensions of modern life

Many doctors argue that the time has come to ban boxing. We disagree. In 2005, the World Medical Association wrote:

Boxing is a dangerous sport. Unlike most other sports, its basic intent is to produce bodily harm in the opponent. Boxing can result in death and produces an alarming incidence of chronic brain injury. For this reason, the World Medical Association recommends that boxing be banned.

The above statement, however, is excessively paternalistic. Boxing is indeed risky, but the risks are perhaps comparable to other activities and sports. Fighting is certainly tolerated in ice hockey – in which a specific player, “the goon”, is encouraged to be aggressive. And as Mario Mendez has written in the International Journal of Psychiatry in Medicine, “in boxing . . . there is a smaller risk of fatal head injuries than in horse racing, sky diving, mountaineering, motorcycle racing, and even [American] football”.

With regards to non-fatal injuries, boxing was the first sport where chronic traumatic encephalopathy was noticed in former competitors. This is a progressive and degenerative condition caused by repeated head injuries; it presents with neurological symptoms such as memory loss and mood swings, eventually leading to dementia. But we now know that a wide range of contact sports result in head injuries frequent or severe enough to cause the condition:  American football, rugby, ice hockey and  professional wrestling (to name a few) are all linked to it, with a study of 2010 showing that school-aged American football players had “measurable neurocognitive and neurophysiologic deficits”, despite never having been concussed.

[Silberman]

I know many people bet on boxing matches and I recently saw a post on an "slapping tournament". I was thinking that professional boxing is kind of questionable as a sport discipline and even more so as a gambling event. It is known that many boxers sustain long term effects of repeated micro-trauma and even some have been know to die in the ring. For all boxing fans and for others that may have a view on this, how is this being considered a fully legal activity being supported? And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

As long as people are aware of the risks they are taking when engaging in any activity then it is up to them to decide if they want to undertake it, after all alcohol is legal and we know that if consumed in large quantities it can have awful affects over the body and yet people decide to do it, the same logic applies here, if people want to engage in a boxing event despite the fact that they know that this could cause long term effects on their bodies then they should be free to do so regardless of what we think about it

[AverageGlabella]

There are many sports which are brutal and you can bet on them and if we were to ban one of them we would need to ban all of them to be fair. I think it is ok to bet on combat sports but I think betting for KOs is probably the more unethical but I bet everyone in this thread has done a KO bet at one point if they bet on boxing.

[7788bitcoin]

People are savage I think since fighting on each other is considered as sports in other countries and yet hate animal cruelty but still they like to see someone fighting each other. It's like an honor for them to fight the strongest man alive and then today it's now an official sports.

Cruelty against animals is not good and cannot be supported and i do not support them but i am a non veg and i eat everything but fighting is a different aspect altogether and to be the best in the fight game is not new and it is there for centuries.

I don't know why though, I just don't get it why fighting each other is supposed to be fun when this is a sports and the only ethical about it that I see is they win a bigger prizes if they beat their opponent. Anyway, I think there's a weaver about it if someone wants to participate on this bloody sports then they have to be ready and accept the consequences and I think that's the risk of it. Meaning high risk equals high rewards.

High rewards will be there for big time fighters and if you are coming up in the fight game you will be earning small amount of money, in boxing when you are coming up the best you will make is below $1000 a fight and that is the case with MMA and if you are in any other combat sport forget about making that kind of money as well.

[maju69]

There are many sports which are brutal and you can bet on them and if we were to ban one of them we would need to ban all of them to be fair. I think it is ok to bet on combat sports but I think betting for KOs is probably the more unethical but I bet everyone in this thread has done a KO bet at one point if they bet on boxing.

bet and don't have to worry about how risky the fighters are, I'm sure they understand much better what they have to do. There is nothing wrong, why should we be ready to gamble with great matches in the ring. We certainly will not waste the opportunity to be able to save bigger bets.

[just_Alice]

Its probably as ethical as gambling companies exploiting their users, there's long terms effects for both getting hit in the head, and spiraling into debt because gambling companies want people who are addicted to gambling on their platform spending money. Of course, it is horrible that boxers to sustain injuries long term, and there probably needs to be more done in that regard. However, they do know the risks, and they do sign on the dotted line. The issue is, this is most probably due to a lot of them coming from disadvantaged backgrounds, and trying to change their lives.

The consequences may be the same sometimes, but gambling companies still seem more ethical to me. All they want is to earn money by means of attracting people, and every business in the world is like that, in boxing, on the other hand, it’s not money that most people want (many watch just for fun, no betting involved), but the game itself.

I’m not saying that it’s ok to get people hurt for money, but at least there’s a purpose in there, maybe the companies even feel sorry at the end of the day In boxing people literally want one man to smash another, and they enjoy when that happens while getting nothing in return.

[jostorres]

For how many years boxing already in the market? I mean since then boxing are considered as sport and bettors are coming in to watch the game.

Yes, there’s a risk of trauma and dying because of boxing this is why boxer have to be more fit before they fight and they understand the risk of it. It’s hard to question if its more on a gambling, because boxers take this seriously and considered as their true passions, they are happy on that profession.

I can tell you, no one likes to take a punch and boxing is all about taking and striking your opponent. Let's be honest, people are doing these things just for money and there's no other reason behind it.

Everything been said though, I believe that people who make bets on these events are not at fault because it's not like they are fueling these sports. They are just betting on the events already scheduled and no sport or event happens just because of gambling.

[boyptc]

bet and don't have to worry about how risky the fighters are, I'm sure they understand much better what they have to do. There is nothing wrong, why should we be ready to gamble with great matches in the ring. We certainly will not waste the opportunity to be able to save bigger bets.

Bet only to those boxers that you know are good enough to win.

As the match being announced, there is a long time that you can use to check every training that they do and their progress. Doing that will give you the advantage.

[Saisher]

And how is betting of people hitting each other being considered as legal and ethical in today´s world?

It's legal because there are precautionary measures being taken to ensure the safety of the competitors, they are not fighting to the death, once an opponent is clearly seen hurt the fight will be stopped, and both competitors are made sure they are on their peak of health, so it's really a battle of speed and strength not savagery.

[Peanutswar]

Boxing already exists before the slapping tournament and we know that boxing is heavier than the slapping tournament it's about the middle to the upper part of your body that could be damaged one single blow can damage any parts of your body. They already consider boxing as a sport but the slapping tournament does not already AFAIK. Boxing is already in the part of the gambling of the rich people. Most of the game century is the battle of Manny Pacquaio many gamblers trying to bet on him because of the talent he has in world boxing.

[Twinkledoe]

Boxing already exists before the slapping tournament and we know that boxing is heavier than the slapping tournament it's about the middle to the upper part of your body that could be damaged one single blow can damage any parts of your body. They already consider boxing as a sport but the slapping tournament does not already AFAIK. Boxing is already in the part of the gambling of the rich people. Most of the game century is the battle of Manny Pacquaio many gamblers trying to bet on him because of the talent he has in world boxing.

Wow! Special mention to Manny Pacquiao, betted on him already but still betting if I have extra just before the fight. 

On the other note, boxing is a contact sport and has been in the history of mankind already. We are not talking about ethics here because that's already been past due to talk about. We already surpassed that discussion as they already established the rules and regulations in this sports.

[YuginKadoya]

I think boxing in recent years was once an Olympic sport rather than a casual betting ground, but even though there are few incidents that people had died because of this sports it is just a mere coincidence that a person would die on the ring, and in given situations, people than often have died on the rings was pretty much unhealthy or no proper training at all, or people would accidentally hit the persons vital part that may cause coma, I think boxing official is aware of it that is why in boxing, Boxer would surely wear gloves to the fist of a boxer would not become lethal, and wearing glove was used to protect both the opponents head and the fighter's hands.

[iTradeChips]

If you are going to ask me, then it is all about the players, these modern gladiators. I really don't mind seeing them box out in the field, getting bloddied in the process. Why? Because if these players made it big time, then they will be richer than all of us here in this forum. You are talking about millionaires, man. Enough talk about the ethics of blood sports. We have been doing this for thousands of years, we just made it more humane for the enjoyment of billions on the planet. Willing fighters who has more influence and money than you? Then talking about the ethics is just lame attempt to cover your envy.

[ethereumhunter]

There are many sports which are brutal and you can bet on them and if we were to ban one of them we would need to ban all of them to be fair. I think it is ok to bet on combat sports but I think betting for KOs is probably the more unethical but I bet everyone in this thread has done a KO bet at one point if they bet on boxing.

bet and don't have to worry about how risky the fighters are, I'm sure they understand much better what they have to do. There is nothing wrong, why should we be ready to gamble with great matches in the ring. We certainly will not waste the opportunity to be able to save bigger bets.

I am sure we will have the option about what we want to do related to the boxing bet and we will not betting for KO's if we do not like. It is up to them to place the bet on the sports and even we do not know what they will bet. Yes, the fighter knows what they have to do and they realize the consequences of becoming the player, and I am sure they also know how to anticipate it for themselves.

[maju69]

Bet only to those boxers that you know are good enough to win.

As the match being announced, there is a long time that you can use to check every training that they do and their progress. Doing that will give you the advantage.

Oh, how about every round bet? is it much more stressful for gamblers to bet every round? so we have much more stressful tendencies? So that the gambler is free to cross the boxer he chooses in each round? what do you think is it crazy enough to do?

I am sure we will have the option about what we want to do related to the boxing bet and we will not betting for KO's if we do not like. It is up to them to place the bet on the sports and even we do not know what they will bet. Yes, the fighter knows what they have to do and they realize the consequences of becoming the player, and I am sure they also know how to anticipate it for themselves.

To be precise, Not necessarily a fighter is ready to be in the ring without knowing the consequences. I believe he is much more understanding than us who just speculate and gamble for him. What's more, they are fighters who already have a pretty good experience, we don't have to worry about unexpected things in the ring.