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July 27, 2021, 07:19:31 AM
Last edit: July 28, 2021, 09:13:04 AM by Scarlett@good luck
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  Hi everyone, I’m Scarlett, I’m very sorry, I may be in trouble,

  I was banned from entering the forum because of plagiarism from the complaint post, but I really did not intend it, When I turned on the computer, I was really frustrated. I almost forgot this post. I may know that people who are permanently banned are unlikely to retrieve their accounts, but I registered a new account today.

  I know that when I finish saying these things, my newly registered account will also be It's closed, but it doesn't matter,

  I still have to say. When I first discovered this forum, I was full of surprises, because my native language is not English, so I need to translate posts to read, and I need to understand sentence by sentence, but despite this, I still have a lot of gains on the forum, and I see that there is truth here. Reliable discussions, seeing people who really help others to answer their doubts, and seeing partners who have been active in the forum for 10 years are still paying for this place, After I experienced 519, the biggest gain I felt was meeting the forum.

  I remember that I was Scarlett7777 registered on 6.23. At that time, I didn't know how to post, I kept browsing everyone's posts and gained a lot. Something happened at home during this time, so I went back to my hometown without a computer. I did not read some rules for newbies, because there are many modules, I will focus on posting on the Bitcoin forum.
  On the 29th, I tried to reply to the post. On July 3, I tried to post a post that was reported by others. My mentality at the time was to try how to post, because that was the first time I posted. I didn't think so much, and neither did I. After reading the beginner’s forum rules, I still don’t understand why some people say that I have plagiarized and the person who reported me commented on my post. She said I copied it. When I didn’t understand the rules, I thought she was reminding me,I don't know how to manipulate quotes and parentheses yet, so I ignore them.


  I ignored her because I didn't know. How to add a link? And quotes, you can read my post a few days ago, Mr. Pmalek reminded me that the first thing I did was to find the link and paste it. But today I also found that this post is missing. I very much agree with zero tolerance for plagiarism, but I really did not intend it.



  Whether the forum is too rigorous, whether such conservative rules will shut out a group of people, many people say that it should not be changed, the forum has been through 10 years and still exists, then the existence of the forum is to maximize the value of the forum ? Think about how many people around us don’t know about the forum, how many people come and go, and I really feel the value of the forum. I am willing to be here, but because I am a newcomer, I didn’t understand the rules, and I was punished forever for posting a post by mistake. Title, this means that the forum will always abandon me, and I am not welcome to come here. Is this kind of cold-blooded superior forum spirit?

  If you can live through the past ten years, you may not be able to live through the next ten years. You also need to look at the value of these ten years. Ten years of laziness, ten years of great cause. The value is not the same. Imagine that there are more and more people in the forum. The less you come, the forum itself is a good learning environment. It is the mission of the forum to let more people come in to learn and influence more people.

  When everyone (including newcomers) came to the forum to post with enthusiasm, they should receive a warm welcome, instead of seeing if the other party had any problems first, when did the legendary users in the forum foul the newcomers and be praised for doing a good job , What kind of forum status is this, and what atmosphere? Is this positive energy?
     

  There is no longer warmth and tolerance here, it becomes cold and narrow.I really don't understand why some friends get angry when they hear plagiarism, and don't listen to the reasons and explanations. I didn't understand what plagiarism is. Too extreme, too extreme.

  Finally, I posted the account that I had registered for a month. My contribution to the community is indeed not as great as that of legendary users, but I am a member of the new force, which means that the forum has an influence on me, and I hope that the forum can be more inclusive.

     https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3347391

   This is my reported post:

 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg57548177#msg57548177

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July 27, 2021, 07:41:10 AM
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That's one big textwall you got there... Really... I had to make an extra effort to keep reading, but it was very hard to extract the exact meaning of your post...
Very little punctuation, no newlines, no paragraphs, no titles, no lists,... just a big continuous wall...

Am i correct if the TL;DR; version of your post is:
  • you say you are sorry for plagiarizing with an account with 41 posts that's little over one month old
  • you think plagiarism rules on this forum are to harsh, and think they should change

Plagiarism is a serious offence... In my country (as in most other developed countries), plagiarism can get you fired from your job, thrown out of school, cause a university to take away your degree or even land you in jail.
On bitcointalk, the only sentence you get is being banned from bitcointalk (as a person, you are not allowed to make new accounts either, unless it's to create 1 topic in meta for the sole purpose of discussing your ban). As a whole, such a ban is actually a light sentence... IRL you could have lost your job, get thrown out of school (or uni), or even land in jail....

As for the admin being harsh: actually he's pretty lenient (IMHO). He is even known to lift bans for people that have actually contributed a lot to the community if they committed single acts of plagiarism a long time ago, followed by a long time of being a productive member.
You're free to make your case tough... Good luck!

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July 27, 2021, 08:39:14 AM
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I may know that people who are permanently banned are unlikely to retrieve their accounts, but I registered a new account today.
When you account was banned, you are only allowed to use a sub-account to make ban appeal in Meta, and in one topic only. You can not use this account to post anywhere else. Only in Meta, only in this topic.

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I am Scarlett7777 who was reported.
Your account is Scarlett7777 and post history shows you wrote wall of texts. Any chance, you copied and pasted contents in your posts and did not leave sources?

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my native language is not English, so I need to translate posts to read
If you use translation machines, you have to leave sources.

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At that time, I didn’t understand that the hot topic that was copied and pasted was here Called plagiarism
ah here, you confirmed it. It is because you did not read rules. If you had read either of topics, you would have not been banned.
Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ
Newbies - Read before posting
[TIPS] to avoid plagiarism
[GUIDE] Plagiarism and how to avoid it.

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July 27, 2021, 09:04:50 AM
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Your account is Scarlett7777 and post history shows you wrote wall of texts. Any chance, you copied and pasted contents in your posts and did not leave sources?

Yes that was the reason. Source -> plagarism
I wasn't and have now found out only through my research. Sorry Scarlett but there is no pardon.


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July 27, 2021, 10:31:14 AM
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I can only say that I do not understand why you did not accept or rather understand the advice given to you by @Pmalek and other members regarding plagiarism - and for a moment it seemed to me that you understood where the problem really was.

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Re: Analysis of the advantages and disadvantages of CEX and DEX
posted by Scarlett7777 on 2021-07-24 14:09:41 UTC
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@Scarlett7777, you should be grateful to @Pmalek for not reporting your post to moderators but for pointing out the mistake you made. There is zero tolerance for plagiarism on this forum, and anything that is not originally yours must be placed inside a quote or supported with a source - this is a very simple rule.

Yes, thank him, I will pay more attention to the content of future posts. Thank you for your guidance.

https://ninjastic.space/search?author=Scarlett7777&board=39

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July 27, 2021, 10:55:24 AM
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I can only say that I do not understand why you did not accept or rather understand the advice given to you by @Pmalek and other members regarding plagiarism - and for a moment it seemed to me that you understood where the problem really was.


The post for which the OP was blocked was made earlier.
I warned him that this post is copy-paste  https://ninjastic.space/post/57369055, but since he did not read all the answers in the thread he created, he did not draw any conclusions.
And after his lies that he wrote everything on this topic on his own  https://ninjastic.space/post/57531342, I was forced to complain to the moderators. And for some reason, it seems to me that there have been complaints about him before. Since this topic has been deleted, this suggests that there were complaints about this topic.

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July 27, 2021, 11:14:38 AM
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I can only say that I do not understand why you did not accept or rather understand the advice given to you by @Pmalek and other members regarding plagiarism - and for a moment it seemed to me that you understood where the problem really was.


The post for which the OP was blocked was made earlier.
I warned him that this post is copy-paste  https://ninjastic.space/post/57369055, but since he did not read all the answers in the thread he created, he did not draw any conclusions.
And after his lies that he wrote everything on this topic on his own  https://ninjastic.space/post/57531342, I was forced to complain to the moderators. And for some reason, it seems to me that there have been complaints about him before. Since this topic has been deleted, this suggests that there were complaints about this topic.

Thanks for this clarification,
So he was obviously warned in time and had time to do everything according to the rules of the forum, but for some reason he didn't do anything.
It is true that many newbie members who register on this forum don't make an effort to read and understand the rules of the forum.
You are asking for help with this topic, but it is too late for that now.
You got advice and help on time but you didn’t listen.
From my experience it will be very difficult to get forgiveness from the admin and unban.
You would have to prove that your contribution to the forum and its importance to the forum is such that you deserve a new opportunity.
Good luck with that.

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July 27, 2021, 04:43:38 PM
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I can't say I am surprised with how things developed. I did try to warn you the moment I noticed your CEX vs DEX thread and found a couple of sentences that were obviously copy-pasted from someone else. You made excuses that didn't make sense even when I told you this is what could happen to you. Seeing now the post lovesmayfamilis made that contained copy/pasted content in another of your posts, it's obvious that it wasn't a one-off thing.

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July 27, 2021, 05:06:49 PM
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I know that everything I say is not necessarily.
No shit.

That's one big textwall you got there... Really... I had to make an extra effort to keep reading, but it was very hard to extract the exact meaning of your post...
You're a much bigger man than I am, because I read OP's post right up to the sentence I quoted above.  The rest was just a time-wasting waste of time.  If you're creating a ban appeal thread, there's no need for a gigantic wall of text.  Just state your case succinctly with just the relevant details (and a little pleading if you think that's going to be effective, which it isn't) and hit "Post".

I can't say I am surprised with how things developed. I did try to warn you the moment I noticed your CEX vs DEX thread and found a couple of sentences that were obviously copy-pasted from someone else. You made excuses that didn't make sense even when I told you this is what could happen to you.
If all of that is true, and I have no reason to think it isn't, then OP isn't going to get her account back.  OP, you should have read the rules before plagiarizing stuff from the internet.  Unfortunately for you, that's pretty much the one thing that'll earn you a permanent ban, and one that very few members have ever successfully appealed.

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July 27, 2021, 06:36:42 PM
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If all of that is true, and I have no reason to think it isn't, then OP isn't going to get her account back. 
The discussion I talked about took place in Analysis of the advantages and disadvantages of CEX and DEX. The thread has in the meantime been deleted from Bitcointalk. The last thing you can see is lovesmayfamilis' post in which he wrote that he found additional plagiarized content from Scarlett7777. And that was the end of her stay here. 

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July 28, 2021, 03:01:07 PM
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That's one big textwall you got there... Really... I had to make an extra effort to keep reading, but it was very hard to extract the exact meaning of your post...
Very little punctuation, no newlines, no paragraphs, no titles, no lists,... just a big continuous wall...

Am i correct if the TL;DR; version of your post is:
  • you say you are sorry for plagiarizing with an account with 41 posts that's little over one month old
  • you think plagiarism rules on this forum are to harsh, and think they should change

Plagiarism is a serious offence... In my country (as in most other developed countries), plagiarism can get you fired from your job, thrown out of school, cause a university to take away your degree or even land you in jail.
On bitcointalk, the only sentence you get is being banned from bitcointalk (as a person, you are not allowed to make new accounts either, unless it's to create 1 topic in meta for the sole purpose of discussing your ban). As a whole, such a ban is actually a light sentence... IRL you could have lost your job, get thrown out of school (or uni), or even land in jail....

As for the admin being harsh: actually he's pretty lenient (IMHO). He is even known to lift bans for people that have actually contributed a lot to the community if they committed single acts of plagiarism a long time ago, followed by a long time of being a productive member.
You're free to make your case tough... Good luck!
I stated the problem I encountered very seriously and sincerely. I do not pray that the administrator can unlock my account. What I want is to get fair and humane treatment based on the actual situation. I am indeed a forum. Novice, because no friend who is familiar with this forum gave me guidance, and for various reasons, I didn't see the rules that novices should understand in advance. I believe that it is not only me who encounters this kind of problem, but other people may also encounter this kind of problem.

Maybe some partners think that they are unlucky when encountering this kind of problem, or choose to leave the forum or start a new identity, but I can’t do this. My own problems cannot be buried. Since they are all Bitcoin enthusiasts, I must defend myself. Rights, this is driven by a sense of mission.
I probably understand what you mean. Plagiarism is a very serious mistake. I have mentioned this issue many times in the post. Please note that this is not a sophistry. I was wrong that I did not find the novice rule when I did not find the forum. Section, read the content of the rules, because I focused my main energy on the Bitcoin section, first try how to post. At that time, I didn’t know how to modify the post. If I knew this, I don’t think I would be stupid enough not to do it. Any remedy,

I also agree with what you said and agree with the forum's rules on plagiarism. Plagiarism should be zero tolerance, but things should not be cut off at one stroke. Novices should be given a chance. I try my best to learn the knowledge here. I am very grateful to be able to encounter this. Forum, and I also spent energy, try my best to contribute what I know, because I have indeed seen everyone's contribution here.
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