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August 08, 2021, 09:21:12 AM
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As a CCP apologist/propagandist, the OP should be condemned in the strongest way possible.
I hadn't checked his post history.

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The CCP can only be described as an evil organization that oppresses over a billion people and whose goal is to oppress billions more.
As much as I don't like the CCP, their progress is impressive. They've turned a third world country into a major economic player. But they're trying to gain influence everywhere, up to local municipalities in my country, so it doesn't surprise me they do the same on internet forums.
It's especially impressive how they can just plan long-term. In the West, most politicians don't look further than the next elections. In the USA, Democrats and Republicans waste a lot of resources in undoing what the other party did before them. The Chinese one-party system makes long-term planning a reality.

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August 08, 2021, 09:23:01 AM
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I would like to ask, is there such a statement or discrimination circulating in the forum?I’m not sure if there is a certain unspoken rule for a certain nation, a certain culture.Please let me know if so.

If yes, can you give some examples of racial discrimination or ethnic discrimination.If not, that would be great.

I think the question you asked is a bit naive.

1. Every country has its own historical background and culture, and each country adopts a social system suitable for its own country. You think your country has more advantages, and they think their country has more advantages. Each system has its advantages and disadvantages. Under each system, there are happiness and misfortune, darkness and light. This is not racial discrimination. This is because of different directions of thinking. Just like religious beliefs, different beliefs are different. There is no discrimination.

2. I think you should be clear that what the forum brings you to discuss on every issue, precipitating the content of the discussion, is like a melting pot, bringing together the culture and knowledge of various countries, making us more open-minded and more comprehensive in information. If it's all controversy, and start to engage in racial discrimination, then there will only be wars and curses.

3.I think you have made a fuss, maybe you should go around the world, and your vision will be broadened, and your heart will become the ocean.Please adapt to the characteristics of the forum and allow different voices to appear before the content can be presented.
Don't be too fragile. I have heard of the May Fourth Movement in China. You should exercise your perseverance like the young people at that time.
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August 08, 2021, 10:36:14 AM
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At first I thought there was but later began to see that generally the forum isn't racist so why should the members be. The forum has created equal opportunity for all just as how Bitcoin created equal opportunity for all race and not giving certain race advantage over others. I was a victim of racial abused but notice those doing that are just trolls that don't matter. I have gotten few feedback for originating from my region of the world but since those feedback didn't have any impact on my account I didn't take them to heart, you shouldn't too.

You're on a forum with people from different backgrounds so expect the worst of behavior, there's no doubt we might have those that are racist here but if there actions don't have any negative impact on your account, just ignore them and continue with the mission that brought you here which I believe should be acquiring more knowledge or engaging with like minds.

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August 08, 2021, 12:42:25 PM
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There is only difference of thoughts and viewpoints among members who can argue at some point but if you talk about discrimination on any basis then i don't agree with on it.The forum has huge user base and daily hundreds of threads are made and people share their thoughts on them and provide information for the same and there is full guarantee that there could be thought conflict among members but don't need to take it personally man.Situations are different for each member and you can't force anybody to share same thought process as yours but the best part is to take it all as discussion process and move on and best you can do is to make effective posting with keeping no negative image in your mind.Your work will prove your worth so no need to indulge in such things which won't matter in the long run.

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August 08, 2021, 01:37:56 PM
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As much as I don't like the CCP, their progress is impressive. They've turned a third world country into a major economic player. But they're trying to gain influence everywhere, up to local municipalities in my country, so it doesn't surprise me they do the same on internet forums.
It's especially impressive how they can just plan long-term. In the West, most politicians don't look further than the next elections. In the USA, Democrats and Republicans waste a lot of resources in undoing what the other party did before them. The Chinese one-party system makes long-term planning a reality.

That's what real democracies have. Since they are held every 4 years and there is rivalry between parties, few politicians make plans that go much further. In contrast, in a totalitarian system you can plan for many years ahead. That happened in dictatorships and in the old communist regimes. How well or poorly they worked was another matter. Hitler's plans worked out very well for him for years. Stalin, Mao and others also had a lot of planning power but they did not understand how the economy works, and the results were a disaster.

The best thing China did was to open up to capitalism, which is why it has lifted so many people out of poverty and is able to buy up half the world. Opening up the economy to create wealth and using the wealth created strategically to acquire more power in the world is what has made them so strong.

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August 08, 2021, 05:17:11 PM
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I've seen so many discriminations here .. I give you an example topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2806313.0
But you must deal with it, this is the internet you can do what ever you want, you can mock anyone as long as you're anonymous.You can be feel safe  Grin
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August 08, 2021, 07:16:53 PM
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Opening up the economy to create wealth and using the wealth created strategically to acquire more power in the world is what has made them so strong.

The problem lately seems to be that the party decided that they're too open and they need to enforce control in more places / companies.
And yeah, I am not convinced on how opened they were for real either, since the news that reach us are "filtered" so we are told almost only what makes them look good.

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August 08, 2021, 07:59:57 PM
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You're on a forum with people from different backgrounds so expect the worst of behavior, there's no doubt we might have those that are racist here but if there actions don't have any negative impact on your account, just ignore them and continue with the mission that brought you here which I believe should be acquiring more knowledge or engaging with like minds.
I disagree I think just because there are people here with different backgrounds does not give them the right to be racist. If someone is being racist we should hold them responsible for their words and actions and punish them. I do not mean banning them but as a community we can hold them responsible. Racists do not have the right to express their views unless they do it in a appropriate manner but I have never met a racist that does that.
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August 08, 2021, 08:31:14 PM
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As a CCP apologist/propagandist, the OP should be condemned in the strongest way possible.
I hadn't checked his post history.
Look at the post he quoted in the OP, in that same thread, the OP has posted multiple times, including this post.
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The CCP can only be described as an evil organization that oppresses over a billion people and whose goal is to oppress billions more.
As much as I don't like the CCP, their progress is impressive. They've turned a third world country into a major economic player. But they're trying to gain influence everywhere, up to local municipalities in my country, so it doesn't surprise me they do the same on internet forums.
It's especially impressive how they can just plan long-term. In the West, most politicians don't look further than the next elections. In the USA, Democrats and Republicans waste a lot of resources in undoing what the other party did before them. The Chinese one-party system makes long-term planning a reality.
As Poker Player alluded to above, the CCP does not have to worry about elections or what its people want when making decisions, and planning for the future.

I would not give the CCP credit for turning China into a major economic power. I think we have the Clinton administration and greedy corporate executives focused on short-term profit for that. The average income in China is about $14,550 per year, which is barely over the poverty level in the US for one person and is below the poverty level for two people living in a household.

The Chinese market is very large, and Western companies have invested billions, if not trillions of dollars in China. The CCP has demanded that western companies operate a joint venture in China that is majority-owned by a Chinese company. This has resulted in short-term profits for companies that have entered the Chinese marketplace, but at the expense of having their IP and other trade secrets stolen, that over the long term will result in greater losses for Western companies than what they made in the short run.

Hitler's plans worked out very well for him for years.
I would compare the CCP, and president Xi, to the Nazis and Hitler. Both have a goal of world domination, and both systematically killed and imprisoned a minority religious group, the Jews in the case of the Nazis, and the Uighurs in the case of the CCP. The key difference is that the CCP is much more patient than the Nazis were. The Nazis started a world war to attempt to achieve world domination, while the CCP has instead infiltrated institutions to make the world more friendly to the CCP. 
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August 09, 2021, 12:33:05 AM
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Their is discrimination here but in logical ways..

For example, I have seen instances of not allowing users from poorer 3rd world countries to become escrows because the money is so much more of a motive for them because they could basically retire off of a modest scammed amount and never be caught because their governments are not capable of handling anything..

For example the phillipeans or India..
Would you disagree that no matter how much someone portrays to be trustworthy, if they are in such a position that a modest scam could possibly dirastially change their lives, with little risk of repercussion, that they should never be allowed to be trusted with such an opportunity?

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For me it is completely person to person..
If you are incredible intelligent and from Sudan then you are just incredible intelligent to me..

Geniuses happen to come from everywhere, no matter their average..
One would be a fool to assume that the averages from every place and creed on earth are equal though..

You can be PC all you want, but it would more likely lead you to mistakes than using the available information to your advantage..

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I have seen instances of not allowing users from poorer 3rd world countries to become escrows because the money is so much more of a motive for them because they could basically retire off of a modest scammed amount and never be caught because their governments are not capable of handling anything..
Allow me to show you an exception to this rule of thumb: Escrow Service of Bl4nkcode. He's from the Philippines and has been running a successful escrow service for years.
But he could just as well have never posted on his local board to hide that if he wanted.
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You're on a forum with people from different backgrounds so expect the worst of behavior, there's no doubt we might have those that are racist here
I disagree I think just because there are people here with different backgrounds does not give them the right to be racist.

What exactly are you disagreeing on, that people aren't racist or what? I never said they have a right to be racist but just giving a heads up. One way or the other we all have a little bit of racist behavior in us. Some are obvious than others but it's what it's. You can't stop people from been who they are or who they want to be, even in the so called civilized world that you'll think due to the fact that they are more educated they shouldn't be seen exhibiting racist behavior yet they're by far more racists found in those part of the world, talk less of a forum that give individual the power to hide behind their computer and becomes bullies.

Sure if you see someone not doing the right thing, it's required of you to take action in trying to convince that user to stop but when they don't, you don't have to kill yourself over what you don't have any control of. You just have to move on, you're just letting them win when you make them realize that their actions are hurting you, instead if them stopping, they'll take it a step further.. If anyone is been racist towards you, you just have to ignore them or if you feel the post is off topic report to moderator for deletion.

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OP you need to match your nickname.
I'm still getting used to this name. You know, it often takes a while to get used to a personal setting.

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To be honest, out of the network. I'm just a thick-skinned person.
But when I got to the forum, I became more sensitive. On some points that I disagree with, I always want to fight back.Maybe I still need to practice. Wink

If you don't, you should thicken your skin ASAP.
yes, I will slowly adapt to the forum.Nothing is more important than "Thick-Skinned“

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lol is interesting. Can I join? Or I need to add a few centimeters to my skin.
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OP you need to match your nickname.
I'm still getting used to this name. You know, it often takes a while to get used to a personal setting.

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Don't get into the snowflake generation, wear thick leather and be bulletproof. (no matter how strange it may seem)
To be honest, out of the network. I'm just a thick-skinned person.
But when I got to the forum, I became more sensitive. On some points that I disagree with, I always want to fight back.Maybe I still need to practice. Wink

If you don't, you should thicken your skin ASAP.
yes, I will slowly adapt to the forum.Nothing is more important than "Thick-Skinned“

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lol is interesting. Can I join? Or I need to add a few centimeters to my skin.
Seeing this conversation, I almost laughed, I support you to enter the cheeky gang.

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Adapt to the whole internet itself, OP and not just here in the forum. Smiley

Do you play video games? In some gaming community, you'll encounter a lot of people saying "git gud", "nub u suk" "ur mom is _____ ", "*insert racist words here*" and I am not sure how you take that word if someone told you that when you are not performing well in your game.

You mentioned that you're thick-skinned person outside the internet and that would be a perk for you to adapt around the internet, especially that you don't even know nor see the person you're interacting with around the internet.

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What exactly are you disagreeing on, that people aren't racist or what? I never said they have a right to be racist but just giving a heads up. One way or the other we all have a little bit of racist behavior in us. Some are obvious than others but it's what it's. You can't stop people from been who they are or who they want to be, even in the so called civilized world that you'll think due to the fact that they are more educated they shouldn't be seen exhibiting racist behavior yet they're by far more racists found in those part of the world, talk less of a forum that give individual the power to hide behind their computer and becomes bullies.

Sure if you see someone not doing the right thing, it's required of you to take action in trying to convince that user to stop but when they don't, you don't have to kill yourself over what you don't have any control of. You just have to move on, you're just letting them win when you make them realize that their actions are hurting you, instead if them stopping, they'll take it a step further.. If anyone is been racist towards you, you just have to ignore them or if you feel the post is off topic report to moderator for deletion.
I am sorry I misunderstood what you mean by saying there is a lot of people from different backgrounds and I thought you mean it was acceptable because of that reason I am not trying to argue. I agree with you if you mean that there is a lot of people and its impossible to control their actions without taking freedom of speech away but we should hold them responsible  if they are being racist. We have the trust system and I think leaving a neutral feedback for being excessively racist is a justified response.

To be honest, out of the network. I'm just a thick-skinned person.
But when I got to the forum, I became more sensitive. On some points that I disagree with, I always want to fight back.Maybe I still need to practice. Wink
People hiding behind a computer screen are more aggressive then they would be in person I think everyone gets more triggered online because of that reason.
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August 09, 2021, 03:43:35 PM
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I think everyone gets more triggered online because of that reason.
It's quite literally all in your mind Wink

If you "get triggered" based on what someone far far away types on his computer, you should seriously reevaluate your priorities in life!

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August 09, 2021, 06:32:34 PM
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This is an internet forum dedicated to Bitcoin. Every other kind of discussion like Politics & Society, Off-Topic and Serious discussion do not belong to the same category and they're surely very subjectively discussed. These are the reason why most of the forums decide to write rules; some people may be easily offended and some may easily offend.

I don't think this topic belongs to the economic sector. I think it’s more appropriate to put it in the Politics & Society
Yes, you see this is one of the forum's problems. People avoid posting on the subforums whose campaign isn't paying, no matter if they suit the topic in the proper section.

That happened in dictatorships and in the old communist regimes. How well or poorly they worked was another matter. Hitler's plans worked out very well for him for years.
Just an addition; Hitler wasn't “just” a dictator, but a nazi. This was much more intensive socially and economically.

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August 09, 2021, 10:32:50 PM
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It is a forum, the debate of ideas is the priority even those that are not, but that in any case the important thing here is that the "rags" and "diapers" are washed on each board where the discussion begins. Unless required by cheater, liar, etc. but there is even a report button there.

Some time ago I saw a similar title for another Topic, I think that this type of subject is very far from the reality of the good vibes that exists even when you can have different opinions.

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August 11, 2021, 08:29:05 AM
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People here come from different countries and different civilizations, and people experience different things. Sometimes what we see in the media may be completely opposite to what they are suffering. You can speak your own opinions, and of course you have to respect the right of others to express their opinions. What you think is completely up to you.

I have reviewed all your posts, your views on China or India are based on all your education, so please also accept other people’s views that are different from yours
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