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September 12, 2021, 01:22:24 PM
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Silva found a new career in boxing at least in this sport his leg isn't going to abused as a target for his weakness. looks like an easy win for him.

How about the fight between Evander Holyfield and Vitor Belfort? I guess Vitor Belfort use his advantage which is being a younger fighter than Holyfield which is already 58 years old. I thought they'll play it soft, but Belfort was really going for a kill and I never saw that Holyfield was able to throw some solid punches.

Holyfield is 58? not suitable.
but maybe an exhibition fight. although old already still is a very experienced boxer, he could last 12 rounds against Silva who is not very much trained to last 10-12 rounds. Belfort will be happy to fight him, that guy needs to get even from his loss against Silva.

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September 12, 2021, 01:27:51 PM
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Silva found a new career in boxing at least in this sport his leg isn't going to abused as a target for his weakness. looks like an easy win for him.
He was not quick, he just find a good counter and that hurt Ortiz.
I don't know what came into the mind of Ortiz on why he was so aggressive, he could have use his speed as he has a better leg.

How about the fight between Evander Holyfield and Vitor Belfort? I guess Vitor Belfort use his advantage which is being a younger fighter than Holyfield which is already 58 years old. I thought they'll play it soft, but Belfort was really going for a kill and I never saw that Holyfield was able to throw some solid punches.

Holyfield although old already still is a very experienced boxer, he could last 12 rounds against Silva who is not very much trained to last 10-12 rounds. Belfort will be happy to fight him, that guy needs to get even from his loss against Silva.

Did Holyfield fight already an exhibition match like this before?
I think he is not in shape in his fight today, he was easily KO and I can understand because he is already old while his opponent is only 44 years. that's 12 years age gap.

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September 12, 2021, 01:47:58 PM
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As expected Anderson Silva won the fight with ease, i thought Anderson Silva will toy around for some rounds against Tito Ortiz but he wanted to go home earlier and Tito Ortiz kissed the canvas and slept for a while and hopefully this will be his only fight and he should not come out and box ever again Cheesy.

I am sad to see Evander Holyfield coming out to fight at 58 years of age and getting knocked out by Vitor Belfort, age is a huge factor as the reflexes are not like they used to be and it was a fight that could be avoided.
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September 12, 2021, 02:44:13 PM
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Did Holyfield fight already an exhibition match like this before?
I think he is not in shape in his fight today, he was easily KO and I can understand because he is already old while his opponent is only 44 years. that's 12 years age gap.


Holyfield is complaining of the premature stoppage but I agree with the referee that the fight should be stopped he is taking a beating and we don't know how will his body react to that kind of beating at that age after the fight, he is slow and his reaction to the punches is not good, DeLa Hoya should think twice of fighting again after the Holyfield outcome, Tyson and Roy Jones are two exceptions of old fighters coming back, they are well trained.

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Well, I was wrong about this being a glorified sparing match, but was right about it being a dipropotional advantage to Silva. It was sad to be honest, those two had no reason to be matched up together. I can't say much about Tito, it now seems he's delusional to think he could win and if he was in it only for money he had to give a chunk of his earnings to Silva because he missed weight. Way to go Tito, not the smartes one out there.
I don't think there was a "disproportional" advantage for Anderson Silva, otherwise odds from bookmakers wouldn't have been those ones and they would certainly haven't even listed the fight. You should respect a little bit more Tito Ortiz I think, he's not a newbie, every champion can lose at the first round of a fight, because there is always the uncertainty to get KO in this kind of sports.

The fight is available on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wttXqjlvIU

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September 12, 2021, 04:24:59 PM
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Well, I was wrong about this being a glorified sparing match, but was right about it being a dipropotional advantage to Silva. It was sad to be honest, those two had no reason to be matched up together. I can't say much about Tito, it now seems he's delusional to think he could win and if he was in it only for money he had to give a chunk of his earnings to Silva because he missed weight. Way to go Tito, not the smartes one out there.
I don't think there was a "disproportional" advantage to Anderson Silva, otherwise odds from bookmakers wouldn't have been those ones and they would certainly not even list the fight. You should respect a little bit more Tito Ortiz I think, he's not a newbie, every champion can lose at the first round of a fight, because there is always uncertainty to get KO.

The fight is available on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wttXqjlvIU

Thanks for sharing the link, I didn't watch the fight but I was hoping that it will have some good action but watching he video

It's sad to say that there's nothing much from this fight and the other one between Evander and Vitor.

Silva managed to land a solid paunch while Ortiz is trying to corner him, not sure with that strategy
from Ortiz camp, knowing that Silva have that good reflexes he can managed to cover and avoid
those punches from Ortiz.




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Well, I was wrong about this being a glorified sparing match, but was right about it being a dipropotional advantage to Silva. It was sad to be honest, those two had no reason to be matched up together. I can't say much about Tito, it now seems he's delusional to think he could win and if he was in it only for money he had to give a chunk of his earnings to Silva because he missed weight. Way to go Tito, not the smartes one out there.
I don't think there was a "disproportional" advantage to Anderson Silva, otherwise odds from bookmakers wouldn't have been those ones and they would certainly not even list the fight. You should respect a little bit more Tito Ortiz I think, he's not a newbie, every champion can lose at the first round of a fight, because there is always uncertainty to get KO.

The fight is available on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wttXqjlvIU
Thanks for sharing the link, I didn't watch the fight but I was hoping that it will have some good action but watching he video

It's sad to say that there's nothing much from this fight and the other one between Evander and Vitor.

Silva managed to land a solid paunch while Ortiz is trying to corner him, not sure with that strategy
from Ortiz camp, knowing that Silva have that good reflexes he can managed to cover and avoid
those punches from Ortiz.
You're welcome carlisle1 I hope you've enjoyed the fight Wink
but I don't understand why so few people are posting those kind of links here.  Huh They seem to not care about making interesting and useful posts  Undecided  Actually I suspect some of them of trying to prevent people from commenting but I don't understand why they want to do that.
I haven't been impressed by Anderson Silva in this video, I don't know if it was his game plan but Tito Ortiz easily cornered him and put him in the ropes several times.

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September 12, 2021, 05:41:25 PM
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Holyfield is complaining of the premature stoppage but I agree with the referee that the fight should be stopped he is taking a beating and we don't know how will his body react to that kind of beating at that age after the fight, he is slow and his reaction to the punches is not good, DeLa Hoya should think twice of fighting again after the Holyfield outcome, Tyson and Roy Jones are two exceptions of old fighters coming back, they are well trained.

There's nothing special unless if that heavy punch that Holyfield thrown got connected, imagine how heavy that was causing him to almost went out of the ring.

The decision of the ref is valid, even Holyfield is trying to cover his face, those heavy punches coming from Belfort might create damages to his body and it's much better since there's also possibilities that Belfort may connect to his head and that might leave him to a comma.
He's already 58 and fighting against a 44 years old champ, oh common Grin



by the way, with Ortiz,.

Did you notice how he throw those punches?  Roll Eyes Tongue I don't want to think it but the way I saw this fight it's more on a script
but not being act graciously!

Sorry, but it's on my two cents!  Wink :


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September 12, 2021, 06:26:06 PM
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by the way, with Ortiz,.
Did you notice how he throw those punches?  Roll Eyes Tongue I don't want to think it but the way I saw this fight it's more on a script
but not being act graciously!
Sorry, but it's on my two cents!  Wink :

Ortiz was never a hard puncher. Anderson needed only one chance to put an end to the fight and make 2-0 in this year. I felt that Ortiz was overwhelmed by Anderson though Silva was not that aggressive in the first, but he did well eventually.

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September 12, 2021, 06:26:26 PM
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I thought that the match could have been fixed as well, good money though for Tito if he took a dive in round 1, LMAO. The announcer said that Tito mentions that training in boxing is very different, specially the head movement. And now we see how he paid the price by not moving his head, he got knock out in round 1. If he took a dive then he should not be badly hurt, but in any case, the fans didn't get their money's worth.

I will never think that it's a fix the punch is very real and Ortiz looks groggy on those head punches and these are MMA fighters, not wrestlers in WWE they give it all but Silva proves to be the better fighter he is well trained and has good ring generalship, I never though that it will end so early.

I also don't think that it's fixed fight. Ortiz is no way in the level of Anderson Silva as far as boxing techniques is concern. The difference in this training is very evident, and Ortiz choose to be the aggressor in the fight by coming inside. I thought that Silva's plan was to tire out Ortiz that's why he let him jab him in the beginning. But then when a knock out presents itself, next thing you know Ortiz is lying in the canvass.

I completely agree and am 100% sure this fight is not fixed. What gives people the idea that TITO had any chance in thr fight if Anderson turns up game-ready, and he surely did. It was not a matter of 'IF' Tito will lose but 'HOW' Tito will lose. This was clean, well-executed, and Anderson's bread and butter. Tito is not on his boxing level and that's the end of the story.

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September 12, 2021, 06:30:05 PM
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I thought that the match could have been fixed as well, good money though for Tito if he took a dive in round 1, LMAO. The announcer said that Tito mentions that training in boxing is very different, specially the head movement. And now we see how he paid the price by not moving his head, he got knock out in round 1. If he took a dive then he should not be badly hurt, but in any case, the fans didn't get their money's worth.
I will never think that it's a fix the punch is very real and Ortiz looks groggy on those head punches and these are MMA fighters, not wrestlers in WWE they give it all but Silva proves to be the better fighter he is well trained and has good ring generalship, I never though that it will end so early.
I also don't think that it's fixed fight. Ortiz is no way in the level of Anderson Silva as far as boxing techniques is concern. The difference in this training is very evident, and Ortiz choose to be the aggressor in the fight by coming inside. I thought that Silva's plan was to tire out Ortiz that's why he let him jab him in the beginning. But then when a knock out presents itself, next thing you know Ortiz is lying in the canvass.
I completely agree and am 100% sure this fight is not fixed. What gives people the idea that TITO had any chance in thr fight if Anderson turns up game-ready, and he surely did. It was not a matter of 'IF' Tito will lose but 'HOW' Tito will lose. This was clean, well-executed, and Anderson's bread and butter. Tito is not on his boxing level and that's the end of the story.

It was indeed an unfair match-up. Ortiz got outperformed by silva in every aspect. It was a hugely one-sided show. Don't know what Tito said before the match, but the result was an inevitable one. Congrats to Silva though for winning.

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September 12, 2021, 06:38:01 PM
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I thought that the match could have been fixed as well, good money though for Tito if he took a dive in round 1, LMAO. The announcer said that Tito mentions that training in boxing is very different, specially the head movement. And now we see how he paid the price by not moving his head, he got knock out in round 1. If he took a dive then he should not be badly hurt, but in any case, the fans didn't get their money's worth.
I will never think that it's a fix the punch is very real and Ortiz looks groggy on those head punches and these are MMA fighters, not wrestlers in WWE they give it all but Silva proves to be the better fighter he is well trained and has good ring generalship, I never though that it will end so early.
I also don't think that it's fixed fight. Ortiz is no way in the level of Anderson Silva as far as boxing techniques is concern. The difference in this training is very evident, and Ortiz choose to be the aggressor in the fight by coming inside. I thought that Silva's plan was to tire out Ortiz that's why he let him jab him in the beginning. But then when a knock out presents itself, next thing you know Ortiz is lying in the canvass.
I completely agree and am 100% sure this fight is not fixed. What gives people the idea that TITO had any chance in thr fight if Anderson turns up game-ready, and he surely did. It was not a matter of 'IF' Tito will lose but 'HOW' Tito will lose. This was clean, well-executed, and Anderson's bread and butter. Tito is not on his boxing level and that's the end of the story.

It was indeed an unfair match-up. Ortiz got outperformed by silva in every aspect. It was a hugely one-sided show. Don't know what Tito said before the match, but the result was an inevitable one. Congrats to Silva though for winning.

I do agree that Silva has really the advantage on this match. And the question prior to this fight is how or what round this will finished. And unfortunately, it was very early. This was a mismatch, the reason why some spectators are thinking that it was fixed. But I think, it is not. The boxing association should stop staging exhibition fights because just like Holyfield's case, he didn't have the reason to go inside the ring again. They may be arranging this kind of fight for money but it is ruining the boxing sports. Just my opinion though.
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September 12, 2021, 06:53:58 PM
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Holyfield is complaining of the premature stoppage but I agree with the referee that the fight should be stopped he is taking a beating and we don't know how will his body react to that kind of beating at that age after the fight, he is slow and his reaction to the punches is not good, DeLa Hoya should think twice of fighting again after the Holyfield outcome, Tyson and Roy Jones are two exceptions of old fighters coming back, they are well trained.
I did not like the fight, i knew Evander Holyfield would struggle as he is coming back to competitive fights after a very long time and he is 58 years old and we cannot expect him to do better. I do not complaint about the stoppage as Evander Holyfield cannot take too much punishment at this age and i would say it is a good stoppage considering his age.

The main event was not a surprise either, Tito is not a boxer and he got what he asked for  Cheesy.
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September 12, 2021, 07:37:42 PM
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Ortiz was face first to the floor after shot by Anderson Silva but it was predictable and only judges could screw this up, but now he is calling a fight with Logan Paul next, that means he needs more money  Roll Eyes
I didn't watch Holyfield fight because I knew it's going to be boring circus show that will be soon forgotten by everyone, Belfort is 14 years younger guy.

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September 12, 2021, 08:20:57 PM
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Ortiz was face first to the floor after shot by Anderson Silva but it was predictable and only judges could screw this up, but now he is calling a fight with Logan Paul next, that means he needs more money  Roll Eyes



Everyone needs money, the fact that they are into exhibition fight, they definitely need it. Why not challenge Jake Paul instead, I'm sure even Jake Paul would take the fight, and I think it will be another win by Jake Paul and we might see a worst KO than what he suffered against  Anderson Silva.

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I just trust Holyfield by his name, in this fight, age really matter and that has was the weakness we saw.
Nice win by Belfort, he should fight more.

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September 13, 2021, 02:39:26 AM
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Did anyone watch it? I reckon Anderson Silva was very fortunate he connected a lucky punch on the head of Tito Ortiz. Ortiz was beginning his attack with strong punches and very fast hand speed with similar head movement like Mike Tyson’s peekaboo strategy.

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September 13, 2021, 04:39:30 AM
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I thought that the match could have been fixed as well, good money though for Tito if he took a dive in round 1, LMAO. The announcer said that Tito mentions that training in boxing is very different, specially the head movement. And now we see how he paid the price by not moving his head, he got knock out in round 1. If he took a dive then he should not be badly hurt, but in any case, the fans didn't get their money's worth.

I will never think that it's a fix the punch is very real and Ortiz looks groggy on those head punches and these are MMA fighters, not wrestlers in WWE they give it all but Silva proves to be the better fighter he is well trained and has good ring generalship, I never though that it will end so early.

Actually Tito Ortiz had a brief pro wrestling career in TNA Wrestling. If anybody would throw a fight for money it is him and he would even know how to make it look convincing.

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September 13, 2021, 04:49:29 AM
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Did anyone watch it? I reckon Anderson Silva was very fortunate he connected a lucky punch on the head of Tito Ortiz. Ortiz was beginning his attack with strong punches and very fast hand speed with similar head movement like Mike Tyson’s peekaboo strategy.

He really waited for it he waited for Ortiz to relax his defense experienced boxers are not in a hurry to knock out his opponent he will wait for the right time to pull it off, and Silva has done just that, Silva is an intelligent fighter he moves around bait Ortiz and waits for the opening.
Ortiz has a bad paced this is boxing they are fighting 8 rounds he should pace himself but he prefers to attack, it's very amateurish for Ortiz.

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September 13, 2021, 06:58:33 AM
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Did anyone watch it? I reckon Anderson Silva was very fortunate he connected a lucky punch on the head of Tito Ortiz. Ortiz was beginning his attack with strong punches and very fast hand speed with similar head movement like Mike Tyson’s peekaboo strategy.

That's not a lucky punch and fortunate.

It was perfectly timed. It was already anticipated that an opening will happen soon although the question is when. Silva managed to take that opportunity and wasted no time to react, like a usual fighter's instinct. I'm expecting the fight to be a decision but ended up early.

The unfortunate one is we didn't see the action of Oscar Dela Hoya because of Covid-19.
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September 13, 2021, 07:14:09 AM
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As I was hoping for, the match ended with an early knockout, BUT not with a KO I expected. I placed my bets on Tito, hoping to win with 7.84 and 6.43 multipliers on two different sites, and I lost all of them. Well, I knew my chances were on the low side. At least I tried.

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Did you notice how he throw those punches?  Roll Eyes Tongue I don't want to think it but the way I saw this fight it's more on a script
but not being act graciously!

Sorry, but it's on my two cents!  Wink :

That was my impression too. To me it looked like a scripted show: at fist it looked like Ortiz was going to win, with all that cornering and stuff, and then BOOM - he's out.

But maybe it's just one of those cases: if I'd won my bet - the game was fair, if I lost - the game was rigged.  Smiley

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